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Oklapatriot
05-12-2022, 09:16 AM
Curcumin, the active ingredient in turmeric, is a proven anti-inflammation component, and is used by millions for pain. Ultrabotanica has pioneered a way to make it more available to cells...called "Ultracur." They also make a product for pets "Ultrapet" and it has made my old arthritic dog act like a puppy again. I don't use CBD oil but it looks like they make one that is superior. I buy mine on Amazon but I think you can find it at local stores. You might check out their website for locations. Every person I've recommended this to has experienced amazing results. I don't work for these folks but I'm sure a big proponent.

Bill Robertson
05-12-2022, 09:28 AM
Curcumin, the active ingredient in turmeric, is a proven anti-inflammation component, and is used by millions for pain. Ultrabotanica has pioneered a way to make it more available to cells...called "Ultracur." They also make a product for pets "Ultrapet" and it has made my old arthritic dog act like a puppy again. I don't use CBD oil but it looks like they make one that is superior. I buy mine on Amazon but I think you can find it at local stores. You might check out their website for locations. Every person I've recommended this to has experienced amazing results. I don't work for these folks but I'm sure a big proponent.
I just ordered some. I'm hopeful to have similar results.

Oklapatriot
05-13-2022, 08:03 AM
I just ordered some. I'm hopeful to have similar results.

Good deal....it takes a few days before you notice a change in the pain level. It's not like a NSAID with instant pain relief. I'd give it a month before giving up on it.

Bunty
05-17-2022, 11:47 PM
There was a guy getting signatures at the Pump yesterday afternoon so I imagine the full court press will come soon

I predict petition for SQ 820, which wants to legalize rec marijuana, won't get enough signatures, if the sponsoring group has no money to pay signature takers. Furthermore, without paid signature takers, if no tent to collect signatures doesn't go up daily at NW Expressway and Hefner Park entrance, then it will go to show there isn't even much interest in gathering signatures in the first place. After all, that location has played quite a legendary role in the past as a great signature gathering place for past marijuana petitions, especially most of all for SQ 788.

Getting 94,911 signatures for a petition as is required for SQ 820 is quite a heck of a chore if you have to do it without paid signature takers. SQ 788 petition barely got enough of its required signatures of around 66,000. Oklahoma marijuana petition organizers in the past have always found it impossible to get funding from outside the state, due to severe skepticism that any kind of legalization proposal could ever pass.

Without paid signature takers, the promoters of SQ820 will have to hope medical marijuana dispensaries will think it's in their best interest to have the 820 petition available to sign.

Bunty
05-18-2022, 12:25 AM
Missouri got their recreational proposal on the ballot: https://tulsaworld.com/ap/business/missouri-ballot-measure-on-recreational-marijuana-advances/article_3673e9d6-cfb4-11ec-80b9-7f352fdb986c.html

Hopefully Oklahoma will do the same.
With little organized effort from what I can tell, in part since you don't seem to already know, promoters of SQ 820 to legalize rec marijuana have been cleared for getting signatures since May 3.

shartel_ave
05-18-2022, 08:00 AM
With little organized effort from what I can tell, in part since you don't seem to already know, promoters of SQ 820 to legalize rec marijuana have been cleared for getting signatures since May 3.

all they need to do is gather signatures in dispensaries and they will get enough signatures quick with 383k patients , 1,777 care givers, and 12k businesses

sooner88
05-18-2022, 09:05 AM
HB 3439 was passed this week by Sitt in an emergency order, which will allow for industrial hemp production, etc. The major hemp growers will be moving into the State soon, with the intention of flipping to cannabis once rec becomes legal. Hemp is becoming more and more attractive with the ESG and carbon-neutrality push.

http://www.oklegislature.gov/BillInfo.aspx?Bill=HB%203439

TheTravellers
05-18-2022, 11:56 AM
all they need to do is gather signatures in dispensaries and they will get enough signatures quick with 383k patients , 1,777 care givers, and 12k businesses

Exactly - why aren't they doing this? Legally not able to? I doubt dispensary owners would mind having the petition in their shop.

And the idiots in charge of their website (yeson820.com) don't even have locations listed, just "coming soon", "see the petition", and "contact us". Setting themselves up for failure...

okccowan
05-18-2022, 12:40 PM
A signature collector got my signature downtown walking around yesterday

shartel_ave
05-18-2022, 12:42 PM
Exactly - why aren't they doing this? Legally not able to? I doubt dispensary owners would mind having the petition in their shop.

And the idiots in charge of their website (yeson820.com) don't even have locations listed, just "coming soon", "see the petition", and "contact us". Setting themselves up for failure...

dispensaries can have the signature papers it isn't illegal. Some people in the business don't want rec they believe out of state players will come in and ruin everything but that is already happening. Most of the top caliber growers have out of state influence

Bill Robertson
05-19-2022, 07:02 PM
Good deal....it takes a few days before you notice a change in the pain level. It's not like a NSAID with instant pain relief. I'd give it a month before giving up on it.
Well crap! Literally! It did seem to help after just a few days but had a runny side effect that won't work. The side effect stopped as soon as I quit taking it. Damn I had high hopes.

Bunty
05-20-2022, 12:22 AM
Exactly - why aren't they doing this? Legally not able to? I doubt dispensary owners would mind having the petition in their shop.

And the idiots in charge of their website (yeson820.com) don't even have locations listed, just "coming soon", "see the petition", and "contact us". Setting themselves up for failure...

YES on 820 Campaign Office
4901 Richmond Square, Suite 102
OKC, OK 73118
Monday-Friday 11am-3pm

TheTravellers
05-20-2022, 09:15 AM
YES on 820 Campaign Office
4901 Richmond Square, Suite 102
OKC, OK 73118
Monday-Friday 11am-3pm

Thanks, but almost a quarter of the way into the *21st* century, they should be able to put a website (or social media or something) together that has locations listed. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Oklapatriot
05-22-2022, 07:55 AM
Well crap! Literally! It did seem to help after just a few days but had a runny side effect that won't work. The side effect stopped as soon as I quit taking it. Damn I had high hopes.

Sorry to hear that. Maybe try with one a day and work up to two a day? Maybe try two teaspoons of Meta-mucilage a day? This conversation seems appropriate because there are natural alternatives to cannabis for pain relief. Good luck Bill.

citywokchinesefood
05-22-2022, 10:55 AM
Well crap! Literally! It did seem to help after just a few days but had a runny side effect that won't work. The side effect stopped as soon as I quit taking it. Damn I had high hopes.

Try Kratom

https://kratom.org/strains/best-for-pain/

Plutonic Panda
05-22-2022, 01:15 PM
Try Kratom

https://kratom.org/strains/best-for-pain/
I second Kratom but make sure you don’t be liberal with it. It is strong and you can take too much which will f@ck you up so I’d start slow. It is very relaxing to me is is the closest legal thing to opium. It just mellows you out.

Bill Robertson
05-22-2022, 02:08 PM
Sorry to hear that. Maybe try with one a day and work up to two a day? Maybe try two teaspoons of Meta-mucilage a day? This conversation seems appropriate because there are natural alternatives to cannabis for pain relief. Good luck Bill.
I started with one a day. And I've been taking Metamucil daily for years. But I took the last Curcumin Tuesday morning and the runs just got better yesterday so I'm wondering if something else was going on. I'm going to give the Curcumin another try in a week or so.

Oklapatriot
05-23-2022, 08:09 AM
I started with one a day. And I've been taking Metamucil daily for years. But I took the last Curcumin Tuesday morning and the runs just got better yesterday so I'm wondering if something else was going on. I'm going to give the Curcumin another try in a week or so.

Good idea. I'd sure keep at it because you're obviously one of the majority of folks that it works on. Good luck Bill.

jn1780
05-24-2022, 08:45 AM
I know someone who went back to the northwest because the cannabis business in Oklahoma has become too cut throat and saturated. I'm sure the smaller guys will love that short one time fix from legalizing it fully. Which probably won't be that big of boost, I think those who want it enough can probably find a doctor to prescribe it.

shartel_ave
05-24-2022, 09:04 AM
I know someone who went back to the northwest because the cannabis business in Oklahoma has become too cut throat and saturated. I'm sure the smaller guys will love that short one time fix from legalizing it fully. Which probably won't be that big of boost, I think those who want it enough can probably find a doctor to prescribe it.

recreational cannabis would be huge in OK especially from texas and kansas coming into the state just for buying cannabis and probably to see live shows in tulsa and OKC

Scott5114
05-28-2022, 10:25 PM
Stitt signed a bill yesterday to place a moratorium on issuing new cannabis business licenses of all types, starting August 1. It could last as long as August 2024.

This is a huge blow to me personally as I've been working on a commercial grow that there's no way we can get ready for licensing before the moratorium takes effect.

There are issues in the industry but completely blocking new businesses from entering it isn't the way to go about solving them.

Bunty
06-06-2022, 01:42 AM
Oops, sorry, but I was mistaken. 820 is actually well funded for signature takers. It is funded by New Approach PAC, specializing in getting cannabis legalized in the states. It gets money from wealthy philanthropists. So, it's good that it is not a corporate front out to profit from cannabis.

I believe most cannabis activists are advising to sign all cannabis petitions, 818, 819 and 820. All three making it on the ballot will show to Republicans at the State Capitol that Oklahoma is ready to move on to legalizing rec cannabis. I signed 820 at Pride on Sunday where they had a tent set up for it. Unfortunately, no sign of anybody taking signatures for 818 or 819. Probably the best place to find them to sign is at a dispensary. If I'm correct 818 and 819 have no funding to pay signature takers.

LocoAko
06-06-2022, 08:34 AM
Oops, sorry, but I was mistaken. 820 is actually well funded for signature takers. It is funded by New Approach PAC, specializing in getting cannabis legalized in the states. It gets money from wealthy philanthropists. So, it's good that it is not a corporate front out to profit from cannabis.

I believe most cannabis activists are advising to sign all cannabis petitions, 818, 819 and 820. All three making it on the ballot will show to Republicans at the State Capitol that Oklahoma is ready to move on to legalizing rec cannabis. I signed 820 at Pride on Sunday where they had a tent set up for it. Unfortunately, no sign of anybody taking signatures for 818 or 819. Probably the best place to find them to sign is at a dispensary. If I'm correct 818 and 819 have no funding to pay signature takers.

I signed the 820 petition outside of the Walgreens. I'm glad to hear a bit more info about the funding for the initiative. There has been some discussion and (unsurprisingly) misinformation about the sources behind this paying the signature collectors on Nextdoor.

I feel like having so many petitions by competing groups might confuse people who assume because they signed one they'd already signed on the issue, etc. I didn't realize the folks behind 818 and 819 were so against 820 so as to sue.

David
06-06-2022, 08:58 AM
I signed the 820 petition at Pride as well, I did not even realize there were multiple SQ petitions in the works.

shartel_ave
06-06-2022, 09:12 AM
I signed 820 at the Paseo Arts Festival

Midtowner
06-06-2022, 11:33 AM
I'm not in favor of changing the current regulatory scheme except to improve it to the point that we can track plants from seed to sale. The longer we can stave off the likes of Wal Mart, CVS, etc. with overburdensome, difficult to replicate on a mass scale regulations, the longer regular folks can earn a good living in this industry.

Open things up, and before you know it, the only folks getting wealthy are executives and shareholders.

shartel_ave
06-06-2022, 11:46 AM
I'm not in favor of changing the current regulatory scheme except to improve it to the point that we can track plants from seed to sale. The longer we can stave off the likes of Wal Mart, CVS, etc. with overburdensome, difficult to replicate on a mass scale regulations, the longer regular folks can earn a good living in this industry.

Open things up, and before you know it, the only folks getting wealthy are executives and shareholders.

As soon as the feds make it adult use you will see massive amounts of money go into cannabis.

As of now I would bet Stiiizy is the biggest brand in the US but they are out of Cali

Bill Robertson
07-05-2022, 12:25 PM
Sounds like they got 164,000 signatures when they needed 95,000. So a bunch could be discredited and still be enough.

shartel_ave
07-05-2022, 12:39 PM
Sounds like they got 164,000 signatures when they needed 95,000. So a bunch could be discredited and still be enough.

this will bring way more people out for the general election

Bill Robertson
07-05-2022, 01:07 PM
this will bring way more people out for the general election

I bet it will. I usually vote anyway but I'll definitely make this one.

David
07-05-2022, 01:21 PM
Do we have a statewide primary runoff this year? I could see Stitt being squirrelly and scheduling the vote for a weird day.

Bunty
07-05-2022, 02:00 PM
Do we have a statewide primary runoff this year? I could see Stitt being squirrelly and scheduling the vote for a weird day.

Yeah, on August 23. Don't see why Stitt would want to reschedule it and may be hard to do. He is not in it. But it will be interesting to see if somebody, like the state AG, will take steps to stop the Nov. vote for rec cannabis. If so, he doesn't have to worry about the political consequences. He lost the primary. After SQ788, I hope opponents have learned it doesn't make much difference when to schedule a pro vote on marijuana.

jerrywall
07-05-2022, 03:01 PM
Isn't their often some back and forth on the ballot language, and then there's a certain about of lead time required before the election for it to be included on the ballot? I guess my point is that the idea of it being in the August 23 primaries would just not be very feasible. If anything, I'd say there's no guarantee that the vote would be in November either. Didn't the SQ788 petition get turned in in summer of 2016 but the vote wasn't until the 2018 primaries?

Bill Robertson
07-05-2022, 03:14 PM
Isn't their often some back and forth on the ballot language, and then there's a certain about of lead time required before the election for it to be included on the ballot? I guess my point is that the idea of it being in the August 23 primaries would just not be very feasible. If anything, I'd say there's no guarantee that the vote would be in November either. Didn't the SQ788 petition get turned in in summer of 2016 but the vote wasn't until the 2018 primaries?

The article I read said they needed to get the required number of signatures turned in by Aug 1 to be on the November ballot. So the Aug runoff ballot can't possibly be an option.

jerrywall
07-05-2022, 03:31 PM
I just went and read the 820 text, and overall I like it, but I found one aspect that bothers me.


. It would restrict business licenses to established medical marijuana licensees for the first two years.

I maybe understand the reasoning behind a short freeze, to allow time for proper inspection/licensing/backlog work from the OMMA and to improve enforcement. However, a few things about this don't seem logical.

1) Why not use the current count as a cap, instead of only limiting to existing licensees? If an underserved area loses its only licensed operation, a new one can't open up to serve that community?
2) Why implement a freeze at the same time that you're VASTLY expanding the consumer market? This will reduce product availability and drive up prices for those that depend on medical marijuana for actual... medical reasons. It will be great for existing retailers I guess.
3) I assume "businesses" includes producers, and not just retailers. If so, see #2 but more so.

If a freeze is needed for the OMMA to catch up, then we should implement it before expanding the market and have everything in place from a standards place in advance.

shartel_ave
07-05-2022, 03:57 PM
I just went and read the 820 text, and overall I like it, but I found one aspect that bothers me.



I maybe understand the reasoning behind a short freeze, to allow time for proper inspection/licensing/backlog work from the OMMA and to improve enforcement. However, a few things about this don't seem logical.

1) Why not use the current count as a cap, instead of only limiting to existing licensees? If an underserved area loses its only licensed operation, a new one can't open up to serve that community?
2) Why implement a freeze at the same time that you're VASTLY expanding the consumer market? This will reduce product availability and drive up prices for those that depend on medical marijuana for actual... medical reasons. It will be great for existing retailers I guess.
3) I assume "businesses" includes producers, and not just retailers. If so, see #2 but more so.

If a freeze is needed for the OMMA to catch up, then we should implement it before expanding the market and have everything in place from a standards place in advance.

I'm pretty sure Oklahoma cannabis businesses can keep up with out of state demand. Oklahoma has more dispensaries than any other state and probably the same as far as growers and producers.

Never is a dispensary parking lot packed in fact usually the opposite. I imagine the towns near the texas and kansas border will see an increase in revenue.

Oklahoma needs to legalize cannabis delivery like damn near every other legal state. The reason california doesn't have as many dispensaries is because of delivery.

jerrywall
07-05-2022, 04:02 PM
You say that but there have already been routine supply issues and such over the past couple of years. It's especially difficult if you're someone needing medically high doses and specialty products like RSO for managing chronic conditions. It's less of a problem in the city but when you get outside of OKC/Tulsa it can be a challenge. I know multiple folks who I help out and it's been difficult keeping them supplied as it is. Additionally, I've talked to folks in places where recreation was legalized (where medical already existed), and consistently was given the same experiences/concerns with supply, and that's without freezing new businesses (especially without allowing new ones to replace any closing ones).

Laramie
07-05-2022, 04:26 PM
https://drseb.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Marijuana-Plant.jpg



Oklahoma Marijuana Activists Submit Signatures To Put Legalization On November Ballot: https://www.marijuanamoment.net/oklahoma-marijuana-activists-submit-signatures-to-put-legalization-on-november-ballot/

Oklahoma activists have submitted what they say are more than enough signatures to qualify a marijuana legalization initiative for the November ballot.

The Oklahomans for Sensible Marijuana Laws (OSML) campaign announced on Tuesday that it had turned in over 164,000 signatures to the secretary of state’s office. They need 94,911 of the submissions to be valid in order to qualify the proposed statutory amendment.

The initiative would allow adults 21 and older in the state to possess and purchase up to an ounces of cannabis and grow a limited number of plants for personal use. The campaign, which is being backed by the national New Approach PAC, is one of two citizen efforts to put legalization on the ballot, with another one still in the process of signature gathering for its own pair of complementary initiatives.

shartel_ave
07-05-2022, 04:29 PM
You say that but there have already been routine supply issues and such over the past couple of years. It's especially difficult if you're someone needing medically high doses and specialty products like RSO for managing chronic conditions. It's less of a problem in the city but when you get outside of OKC/Tulsa it can be a challenge. I know multiple folks who I help out and it's been difficult keeping them supplied as it is. Additionally, I've talked to folks in places where recreation was legalized (where medical already existed), and consistently was given the same experiences/concerns with supply, and that's without freezing new businesses (especially without allowing new ones to replace any closing ones).

My friend that is the GM of local large dispensary in the OKC area (they have four dispensaries) said Metric wasn't very kind to the industry and a lot of people were not prepared to transition to such an intense diligent account of their process but said everything is pretty much back to normal.

He said it affected the supply chain concerning product for a little bit because tons of product wasn't entered into the system on time thus not being able to be sold on market but everything is pretty much stabilized as of now.

He also said the state already froze licenses for 2 years.

I just spoke with him

jerrywall
07-05-2022, 04:50 PM
He also said the state already froze licenses for 2 years.

I just spoke with him

Interesting. I wonder why it's necessary to include it in this SQ then?

Look, at the end of the day I'll probably vote for this, as it moves the state in the right direction, IMO. I just don't understand the necessity of this protectionist provision except as a massive handout to the existing businesses at a direct expense of the consumer. If the OMMA needs to freeze new licenses because of backlogs, then they should be able to do so as needed, and not a blanket freeze woven into the law right at the time of the biggest expansion and growth the industry will likely see in the state.

jerrywall
07-05-2022, 04:53 PM
Oh, and I know about the whole Metric issue, but there have been supply chain issues since legalization, and there has YET to be a consistent and reliable availability of product. Working with multiple folks with ongoing issues it's a game of whackamole to find the new available product that's around every couple of months, before it inevitable disappears.

Jersey Boss
07-05-2022, 05:48 PM
Nm

Jersey Boss
07-05-2022, 05:52 PM
Oh, and I know about the whole Metric issue, but there have been supply chain issues since legalization, and there has YET to be a consistent and reliable availability of product. Working with multiple folks with ongoing issues it's a game of whackamole to find the new available product that's around every couple of months, before it inevitable disappears.
This. I'm a medical card holder who pays up for a doc and the state every two years. I will not vote yes for a proposal with little consideration for card holders.

TheTravellers
07-05-2022, 07:17 PM
Oh, and I know about the whole Metric issue, but there have been supply chain issues since legalization, and there has YET to be a consistent and reliable availability of product. Working with multiple folks with ongoing issues it's a game of whackamole to find the new available product that's around every couple of months, before it inevitable disappears.

Totally agree with this. If I find a strain that works great at one dispensary, who knows if it'll be around the next time I need it, or if it'll be only available 30 miles away (which isn't a deal-breaker, just not as convenient as the one that's 2 blocks away I can walk to or the one on my drive home, etc.).

shartel_ave
07-06-2022, 08:31 AM
I would like to know of any dispensary that is having supply issues with any product whether it is flower, concentrates, edibles, or topicals.

Not once in 4 years have me or anyone I know walked into a dispensary in this state and they were out of something. Maybe a specific strain which is not a big deal. You aren't going to find a pure indica or sativa and that is why everyone should go with terpenes and not thc content and if thc is what helps you go with edibles or concentrates.

jerrywall
07-06-2022, 11:08 AM
Not once in 4 years have me or anyone I know walked into a dispensary in this state and they were out of something

Sorry, I just snorted my coffee all over my monitor. I could give you a list of 10-20 specific products right now, and I guarantee you they are out of stock at most or all shops. Now, are you saying there is going to SOME product available? Sure? I've never walked into a dispensary and have them be completely out of eveything. But the shops in the OKC metro routinely are out of specific brands of gummies, or, like right now, there seems to be no high THC content chocolate available in North OKC at all. RSO is routinely out, specifically if you need RSO gummies. And I mean we hit all the shops around - the chains, the smaller stores, the larger operations. A new one opens we check it out, and I've pulled many Saturdays hitting store after store trying to find items. It's not like there's a shortage of them, but I'm often having to drive across the metro to get a specific item, because it will be out of stock.

If in 4 years you've never seen a product out of something at a dispensary - well, a lot of us would like to know where these magical fully stocked never out of product dispensaries are at, because they sure aren't in the OKC metro.

And, at the end of the day, even if somehow you're the unicorn and you've never had an issue, that's like someone claiming there is no racism because they don't experience it. It's a real issue and if you talk to anyone who depends on medical marijuana, you hear the stories and experience it constantly. We're not making up the difficulties, but those are going to be less of a concern for someone who is just picking it up now and then for fun, rather than trying to manage issues and wanting some sort of constituency and predictability. Being able to buy the same brand, same strain, and same strength is VERY IMPORTANT. And you can't do so right now. At all. Period, and I'll argue against anyone who says it is possible. I don't know of a single brand that is always available, although there are a few that are "typically" stocked.

shartel_ave
07-06-2022, 11:58 AM
Sorry, I just snorted my coffee all over my monitor. I could give you a list of 10-20 specific products right now, and I guarantee you they are out of stock at most or all shops. Now, are you saying there is going to SOME product available? Sure? I've never walked into a dispensary and have them be completely out of eveything. But the shops in the OKC metro routinely are out of specific brands of gummies, or, like right now, there seems to be no high THC content chocolate available in North OKC at all. RSO is routinely out, specifically if you need RSO gummies. And I mean we hit all the shops around - the chains, the smaller stores, the larger operations. A new one opens we check it out, and I've pulled many Saturdays hitting store after store trying to find items. It's not like there's a shortage of them, but I'm often having to drive across the metro to get a specific item, because it will be out of stock.

If in 4 years you've never seen a product out of something at a dispensary - well, a lot of us would like to know where these magical fully stocked never out of product dispensaries are at, because they sure aren't in the OKC metro.

And, at the end of the day, even if somehow you're the unicorn and you've never had an issue, that's like someone claiming there is no racism because they don't experience it. It's a real issue and if you talk to anyone who depends on medical marijuana, you hear the stories and experience it constantly. We're not making up the difficulties, but those are going to be less of a concern for someone who is just picking it up now and then for fun, rather than trying to manage issues and wanting some sort of constituency and predictability. Being able to buy the same brand, same strain, and same strength is VERY IMPORTANT. And you can't do so right now. At all. Period, and I'll argue against anyone who says it is possible. I don't know of a single brand that is always available, although there are a few that are "typically" stocked.

Green Hornet, Wanna and Smokies gummies are always available and probably Kosmik but I never get that brand.

Grade A has high thc gummies as in 1000mg Blackhole and Dabba 500mg chocolates
Sage Wellness has RSO syringes, Green Hornet 1000mg gummies. Korova 500mg chocolate bar,
Tegridy has Easy Street full spectrum gummies up to 200mg, Black Hole 1000mg gummies, Zen cannabis peanut butter chocolate bar 1000mg, Robot Pharmer RSO syringes

Likewise craft (my go to) has 1000mg house gummies, plenty of full spectrum gummies e.g. "RSO", 500mg Dabba chocolates, tribe live rosin gummies, RSO cannacaps.

There you go I just helped you out so you can get what you need

I usually hit up Paseo Collective, Sage Wellness, LikeWise Craft/Plaza, Grade A, and Tegridy and like I said never have I been to either of those and they have been completely out, maybe one brand but not completely out of what I'm looking for.

LikeWise Craft and Tegridy almost always have everything you mentioned and both are on N May past NW63rd

Try Joe's Herb Cabinet as well, he is great at having stock or getting what you need

my wife takes full spectrum gummies for seizures

https://likewisecannabis.com/likewise-craft-cannabis-dispensary-drive-thru-okc-dispensary-near-me-oklahoma.html?

jerrywall
07-06-2022, 01:00 PM
You're one of those that claims McDonalds' ice cream machines never break because you never have problems, huh?

Green Hornet goes out of stock all the time. It's great that it's "generally" in stock, but no, it's not a guarantee anywhere. Same with smokies.

And the fact that you have to jump around stores to list ones that have stock tells you the problem. RIGHT NOW some stores have certain items. Then next month they won't, but you might be able to find it elsewhere. This is the state of the industry and the reality in Oklahoma. Products are not available all the time, and like you admit, they be out of one brand, so you jump to another. Whackamole, like I said.

I CANNOT tell my grandmother or someone else to go to a specific store and buy a given brand/dose and use that in an ongoing capacity, because every few months we'll have to identify another brand because that first one will inevitably go out of stock and may or may not be restocked quickly.

Look, TheTravelers and I have agreed on a total of about 5 things in 10+ years but we've both had this experience, as had many other folks. The fact that you've been lucky or you're able to find alternative doesn't change the fact that this is no consistent and ready steady availability of any given brand or product yet. It hasn't happened in this industry for whatever reason in Oklahoma. I hope it will get there, but right now it takes a lot of effort.

Also, it seems to me that you're saying you can always find some sort of gummies, just not always the specific brand, which is exactly what I'm saying. Having an alternative product of similar dosage isn't the same as having the same item in stock.

"almost always" isn't the same as never being out.

shartel_ave
07-06-2022, 01:05 PM
You're one of those that claims McDonalds' ice cream machines never break because you never have problems, huh?

Green Hornet goes out of stock all the time. It's great that it's "generally" in stock, but no, it's not a guarantee anywhere. Same with smokies.

And the fact that you have to jump around stores to list ones that have stock tells you the problem. RIGHT NOW some stores have certain items. Then next month they won't, but you might be able to find it elsewhere. This is the state of the industry and the reality in Oklahoma. Products are not available all the time, and like you admit, they be out of one brand, so you jump to another. Whackamole, like I said.

I CANNOT tell my grandmother or someone else to go to a specific store and buy a given brand/dose and use that in an ongoing capacity, because every few months we'll have to identify another brand because that first one will inevitably go out of stock and may or may not be restocked quickly.

Look, TheTravelers and I have agreed on a total of about 5 things in 10+ years but we've both had this experience, as had many other folks. The fact that you've been lucky or you're able to find alternative doesn't change the fact that this is no consistent and ready steady availability of any given brand or product yet. It hasn't happened in this industry for whatever reason in Oklahoma. I hope it will get there, but right now it takes a lot of effort.

I wasn't "jumping around stores" for the reason you claim I was simply showing you that I quickly found four places that have what you are looking for. When I go for my wife it is one place and that is it.

Never have I seen Smokies, green hornet or wanna out of stock at LikeWise Craft or Tegridy. As far as your analogies I just think you like to complain and can't comprehend that what I'm saying is true.

Smokies and Green Hornet are like Budweiser and Coors the store is never out.

It is rare that i go to any other place except those two and if I do go to another dispensary it is because I don't want to drive up to N May from the Paseo,

But whatever, I have no issues ever finding what my wife needs and I gave you a list of places you could go and get what you need.

jerrywall
07-06-2022, 01:07 PM
Side note - these inventory levels would be a little less annoying if stores actually kept up their inventory listings on Weedmaps. The times I've used that to find a product only to get to the store - well it's trained me to call first and routinely they are out of what I'm looking for even though weedmaps says they have it. And the functionality of the product search in things like weedmaps/leafly is pretty terrible in terms of finding which shops carry what items.

shartel_ave
07-06-2022, 01:24 PM
Side note - these inventory levels would be a little less annoying if stores actually kept up their inventory listings on Weedmaps. The times I've used that to find a product only to get to the store - well it's trained me to call first and routinely they are out of what I'm looking for even though weedmaps says they have it. And the functionality of the product search in things like weedmaps/leafly is pretty terrible in terms of finding which shops carry what items.

LikeWise Craft, Sage Wellness and Tegridy have their own websites listing what they have in stock they don't use weedmaps.

I agree weedmaps is garbage

jerrywall
07-07-2022, 08:35 AM
I just noticed that 820 has some significantly different limits (1 ounce vs 3 ounces of flower, 8 grams vs 28grams of concentrate, and 8 grams in edible vs 72 ounces). Does anyone know if these limits only apply to recreational users, with medical still having their limits as explained on the back of the cards?

If yes, this would be a slight positive, as some of the high-volume discounts (28g of concentrate deals, etc) could be offered for medical patients only. If it replaces the limits, I will actively be opposing this SQ.

shartel_ave
07-07-2022, 09:11 AM
limits stay the same as they are now for medical card holders and medical card holders will not pay the excise tax just state tax.

8 grams of edibles has to be a mistake? Should be 8 ounces other wise that will be some weak ass edibles

edit: I'm thinking milligrams, not, grams so it won't be bad.

I mean, if you had a bag of eight gummies and total amount of THC was 8 grams that would mean each gummy would be 1000 milligrams

jerrywall
07-07-2022, 10:34 AM
Yeah, the edibles thing is confusing because it's sort of apple to oranges between the two bills... but it doesn't mention THC content... just marijuana in concentrated form.

788 has


Legally possess up to seventy-two (72) ounces of edible marijuana

vs 820

eight (8) grams or less of marijuana in concentrated form contained within marijuana products or marijuana-infused products.

My problem is I'm not sure what they mean by that limit in 820. For 788 that 72 ounce limit is applied against the total edible, since it's something that's clearly defined. But THC content does not equal volume of marijuana or marijuana concentrates. It's a weird way to have a limit, IMO. When there's ambiguity, I could see it being enforced the same way 788 does. Although if it only applies to the recreational users, that's another bonus IMO.

shartel_ave
07-07-2022, 10:37 AM
Yeah, the edibles thing is confusing because it's sort of apple to oranges between the two bills... but it doesn't mention THC content... just marijuana in concentrated form.

788 has



vs 820


My problem is I'm not sure what they mean by that limit in 820. For 788 that 72 ounce limit is applied against the total edible, since it's something that's clearly defined. But THC content does not equal volume of marijuana or marijuana concentrates. It's a weird way to have a limit, IMO. When there's ambiguity, I could see it being enforced the same way 788 does. Although if it only applies to the recreational users, that's another bonus IMO.

I agree, having "eight grams" of thc is weird as that is a ton of thc for any sized edible. I'm sure once it is passed the legislatures will tweek it.

Bits_Of_Real_Panther
07-07-2022, 12:37 PM
I hope the law enforcement establishment comes out in favor of the recreational legalization ballot measure, in large part because all the fear mongering about foreign cartels being in control of things has turned out to be hogwash.

OMMA has done a decent job so far and could handle a larger volume of commerce.

Plutonic Panda
08-23-2022, 04:28 PM
One articles says the rec proposal isn’t likely to make the ballot


Michelle Tilley, campaign director for SQ 820, said delays in the signature verification process by a private vendor mean the proposition may not make it to November’s ballot.

https://oklahomawatch.org/2022/08/22/recreational-marijuana-question-unlikely-to-make-november-ballot/

Bummer if thanks the case

David
08-23-2022, 04:59 PM
One articles says the rec proposal isn’t likely to make the ballot



https://oklahomawatch.org/2022/08/22/recreational-marijuana-question-unlikely-to-make-november-ballot/

Bummer if thanks the case

This November maybe, it'll skip to the next statewide election if that doesn't happen. Well, unless Stitt tries to pull a fast one but I think the law on state questions is clear and the SQ 820 campaign are clearly in compliance.

Laramie
08-23-2022, 06:36 PM
Can you imagine Oklahoma passing both Medical & Recreational Marijuana, a number of states have both.

Legalized medical marijuana:

As of July 2022, 38 states have legalized the medical use of cannabis to varying degrees, according to the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws: Alaska, Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington and West Virginia.

Recreational marijuana:

According to the National Conference of State Legislatures, 19 states and the District of Columbia have legalized the adult use of marijuana for recreational purposes: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Illinois, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Nevada, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia and Washington.

soonerguru
08-24-2022, 12:10 AM
One articles says the rec proposal isn’t likely to make the ballot



https://oklahomawatch.org/2022/08/22/recreational-marijuana-question-unlikely-to-make-november-ballot/

Bummer if thanks the case

Yeah, no way Stitt wants this on the ballot in November. He will do whatever he can procedurally to deny it.