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Bunty
12-18-2019, 10:40 PM
I read the petition and will not sign it, and if it goes on the ballot, will vote against it. It seems like a logistical nightmare for dispensaries and would seemingly ban public smoking.

The law we have now is great, and more than good enough until a well-written recreational petition is crafted. There are many red flags with the current petition.

I easily agree. It should be seen as DOA and be pulled right away. If it doesn't get pulled, I think we'll know why. The funding source for 806 likes it just fine and won't help the filers, if they pull it. It's funding source is supposedly New Approach PAC. It has helped fund other states with their petitioning and legalization campaigns. At least one or two donors are believed to be involved in the cannabis industry.

BlackmoreRulz
12-23-2019, 06:16 AM
Just an FYI

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Plutonic Panda
12-23-2019, 06:41 AM
I do believe counties and towns should have the right to ban dispensaries for recreational use and medicinal until it becomes FDA approved.

But recreational sales should be left to towns to decide for themselves.

I’m torn on the employer rights issue. On one hand marijuana stays in your system longer and if if it is detected in your system that doesn’t mean you “high” or impaired. But employees should have a right to make sure their employees aren’t impaired.

Overall I can’t bring myself to support this because it alters the state constitution. If there is something in the state constitution that bans marijuana, why can’t we simply remove it?

OKCRT
12-23-2019, 08:47 AM
I do believe counties and towns should have the right to ban dispensaries for recreational use and medicinal until it becomes FDA approved.

But recreational sales should be left to towns to decide for themselves.

I’m torn on the employer rights issue. On one hand marijuana stays in your system longer and if if it is detected in your system that doesn’t mean you “high” or impaired. But employees should have a right to make sure their employees aren’t impaired.

Overall I can’t bring myself to support this because it alters the state constitution. If there is something in the state constitution that bans marijuana, why can’t we simply remove it?

Seems to me this bill is there to help the big guys on the block. Needs to be re-written or nixed all together IMO. I haven't heard a lot of issues with what we have now other than there might be too many dispensaries. I think that will sort itself out over time. I just don't want to see people go to jail over MJ. That is a waste of tax payers dollars.

Plutonic Panda
12-23-2019, 11:50 AM
Seems to me this bill is there to help the big guys on the block. Needs to be re-written or nixed all together IMO. I haven't heard a lot of issues with what we have now other than there might be too many dispensaries. I think that will sort itself out over time. I just don't want to see people go to jail over MJ. That is a waste of tax payers dollars.Agreed. We need to expunge petty records resulting from arrests related to marijuana usage.

EBAH
12-23-2019, 11:53 AM
I do believe counties and towns should have the right to ban dispensaries for recreational use and medicinal until it becomes FDA approved.

But recreational sales should be left to towns to decide for themselves.

I’m torn on the employer rights issue. On one hand marijuana stays in your system longer and if if it is detected in your system that doesn’t mean you “high” or impaired. But employees should have a right to make sure their employees aren’t impaired.

Overall I can’t bring myself to support this because it alters the state constitution. If there is something in the state constitution that bans marijuana, why can’t we simply remove it?

In terms of the employer rights issue I think it'd end up being the same way we currently treat things like sedatives, xanax etc.

For jobs where driving or heavy equipment is involved employers can just prohibit it and do random testing like they do now, past that for like normal office workers etc, wouldn't be any different than the way alcohol and xanax are treated now, like, I can't really test it all the time, but if my worker is noticeably intoxicated, acting inappropriate or impaired then I can take action, suspend or fire, or require a drug screening. Seems easy enough.

Plutonic Panda
12-23-2019, 12:14 PM
^^^^ I don’t know that much about drugs. I am not sure how long drugs like Xanax stay in your system. But overall I agree with your post.

Bunty
12-23-2019, 09:20 PM
I do believe counties and towns should have the right to ban dispensaries for recreational use and medicinal until it becomes FDA approved.

But recreational sales should be left to towns to decide for themselves.

I’m torn on the employer rights issue. On one hand marijuana stays in your system longer and if if it is detected in your system that doesn’t mean you “high” or impaired. But employees should have a right to make sure their employees aren’t impaired.

Overall I can’t bring myself to support this because it alters the state constitution. If there is something in the state constitution that bans marijuana, why can’t we simply remove it?

It's looks dumb to ban sales of rec marijuana and then cities can't also ban sales of cigarettes, if so desired. Joints are safer to smoke than cigarettes, since there are no man made chemicals put in them.

Plutonic Panda
12-23-2019, 09:43 PM
It's looks dumb to ban sales of rec marijuana and then cities can't also ban sales of cigarettes, if so desired. Joints are safer to smoke than cigarettes, since there are no man made chemicals put in them.
I completely agree with you. However I do think that should be left up for the local community to decide.

BlackmoreRulz
12-26-2019, 11:20 AM
Reports that SQ806 has been withdrawn after backlash

jerrywall
12-26-2019, 11:42 AM
Reports that SQ806 has been withdrawn after backlash

Yeah. https://www.newson6.com/story/41495437/sq806-which-would-have-legalized-recreational-marijuana-in-okla-withdrawn-by-supporters

Bill Robertson
12-26-2019, 01:08 PM
Reports that SQ806 has been withdrawn after backlashDamn! Damn! Damn! Damn!

gopokes88
12-26-2019, 01:29 PM
Just FaceTime one of the weed doctors and get your card. It’s basically the same as rev given there’s no restrictions on why you need a medical card. Marijuana tourism won’t be a thing in 10 years. So why exactly do we need rec?

GoGators
12-26-2019, 02:30 PM
Just FaceTime one of the weed doctors and get your card. It’s basically the same as rev given there’s no restrictions on why you need a medical card. Marijuana tourism won’t be a thing in 10 years. So why exactly do we need rec?

You are right that in 10 years it’s going to be legal recreationally everywhere anyway. So why not do it now and be ahead of the curve for once. The state can collect 8-10 years of out of state tax revenue. You know, actually run the state like a business. Or we can wait 15 years, miss out on millions upon millions of out of state tax revenue and eventually end up with recreational anyway.

Right now, There’s approximately 10 million people who live within 120 miles of the Oklahoma border in states with no access to legal marijuana. That’s quite the opportunity for a state with a total population of less than 4 million.

Oklahoma already has some of the most relaxed medical regulations in the country. It basically amounts to recreational for Oklahoma residents only. I want that potential out of state money to come here.

EBAH
12-26-2019, 03:47 PM
Just FaceTime one of the weed doctors and get your card. It’s basically the same as rev given there’s no restrictions on why you need a medical card. Marijuana tourism won’t be a thing in 10 years. So why exactly do we need rec?

My main argument for rec is just that it should have never been illegal in the first place. To me allowing for all this complications in laws is to just validate an absolutely terrible legal policy to begin with. It just needs to be blanket legalized. It is a plant.

jerrywall
12-26-2019, 04:53 PM
My main argument for rec is just that it should have never been illegal in the first place. To me allowing for all this complications in laws is to just validate an absolutely terrible legal policy to begin with. It just needs to be blanket legalized. It is a plant.

People have been arguing that case for 60 years. It's not gonna suddenly flip to legal overnight. It would be great if the federal government suddenly legalized it, but not sure how soon that's going to happen (and what the potential consequences might be). Oklahoma's current situation is pretty close to rec, and the card is there merely as a revenue source for the state. Otherwise, why not just let patients use a doctor's recommendation? I'm hoping it will go away before too many people are having to pay for renewals but I know that's not likely.

Not surprised this SQ got pulled. It had very little industry support, and I couldn't see them getting the machine mobilized to drive signatures. All that being said, as fast as the industry is growing here, and the fact that the patient sign ups don't appear to be slowing down, tells me that widespread acceptance in this state is close, so we may only be a few years off.

Bill Robertson
12-27-2019, 09:44 AM
Just FaceTime one of the weed doctors and get your card. It’s basically the same as rev given there’s no restrictions on why you need a medical card. Marijuana tourism won’t be a thing in 10 years. So why exactly do we need rec?I can’t get on a database showing I have a card.

bchris02
12-27-2019, 09:46 AM
Just FaceTime one of the weed doctors and get your card. It’s basically the same as rev given there’s no restrictions on why you need a medical card. Marijuana tourism won’t be a thing in 10 years. So why exactly do we need rec?

Well Oklahoma does border a massive state that will also likely be one of the last in the country to legalize cannabis. The state could capitalize on that by legalizing rec and drawing tourists up from south of the Red River. However you are right that when it's legal everywhere, there will no longer be cannabis tourism. I also think the current situation with medical in Oklahoma is a pretty good thing and the state should be careful to not mess it up. I think we are farther than 10 years away from it being legal in all 50 states though.

Plutonic Panda
12-28-2019, 08:21 PM
Petition changed and re-filed:

https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/recreational-marijuana-proponents-file-new-petition/article_fc82aaa2-b844-56db-9e01-dbe4bec009f1.html

king183
12-28-2019, 08:59 PM
Petition changed and re-filed:

https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/recreational-marijuana-proponents-file-new-petition/article_fc82aaa2-b844-56db-9e01-dbe4bec009f1.html

If they had been more organized, they could have started this early enough to get on the March ballot during the OK Democratic Presidential Primary. Now, assuming they get the signatures, it would most likely be on the November ballot when Oklahomans turn out for Trump, so they will have to hope for a big crossover vote.

bchris02
12-29-2019, 12:11 PM
If they had been more organized, they could have started this early enough to get on the March ballot during the OK Democratic Presidential Primary. Now, assuming they get the signatures, it would most likely be on the November ballot when Oklahomans turn out for Trump, so they will have to hope for a big crossover vote.

That would have been a good idea. Most Democrats support legal marijuana so having it on the Democratic Primary ballot would ensure its passage, since Republicans who would oppose it would have to turn out to vote specifically on this issue. I get the feeling that this issue is a lot more important to people who are for legalizing than those who are against it.

Plutonic Panda
12-29-2019, 12:52 PM
Nancy Pelosi is against marijuana reform and President Obama had a Democrat senate and house at some point, IIRC, and virtually no movement on any national legislation for marijuana legalization. Why are we to believe to republicans are so much more hostile to MJ than dems. I have plenty of conservative friends and family who support legalization and coincidentally enough a few democratic friends whom are fine with current laws around weed.

I’m not buying the logic that Democratic leadership will bring upon national legalization. I also just read reform was just killed in the house or senate.

bchris02
12-29-2019, 08:48 PM
^^^ Obama did the best he could by allowing Colorado and Washington to legalize without sending in the feds to shut them down. If Romney would have won the 2012 election, he probably wouldn't have allowed states to legalize and it probably would still be illegal everywhere.

One thing about Obama is that on social issues, he went with popular opinion and the public had not yet come around on legal weed back then. There has been a huge surge in support in recent years and now 65% of the entire population supports it. Opposition is highest among Republicans, specifically the religious right. Younger Republicans are more pro-legalization, but right now the GOP is still a boomers' party. Currently, the Senate has blocked numerous marijuana reform bills that have been passed by the house. Right now, the Republican Party is the top thing standing in the way of legalization. When red states start legalizing recreational marijuana en masse, then I think the tide will have turned but we aren't there yet.

Plutonic Panda
12-29-2019, 09:19 PM
So then Bush did the best he could by allowing California to legalize. I’ll stop you or anyone else trying to make an argument about medicinal vs. recreational as it is highly irrelevant given federal laws bans both. There is no proof Obama ‘allowed’ marijuana to be legalized in recreational states simply because he didn’t send feds in the enforce the ban. That is a ridiculous notion.

GoGators
12-29-2019, 10:26 PM
Nancy Pelosi is against marijuana reform and President Obama had a Democrat senate and house at some point, IIRC, and virtually no movement on any national legislation for marijuana legalization. Why are we to believe to republicans are so much more hostile to MJ than dems. I have plenty of conservative friends and family who support legalization and coincidentally enough a few democratic friends whom are fine with current laws around weed.

I’m not buying the logic that Democratic leadership will bring upon national legalization. I also just read reform was just killed in the house or senate.

This currently isn’t a battle at the National level it’s being fought state by state. A quick look at the map of legalized states gives a pretty clear picture of how each party tends to fall on this issue. I don’t believe a single republican controlled state legislature has ever passed medical laws through actual legislation. All progress conservative leaning states have made have had to come through ballot initiative. I definitely think the right will be drug to the correct side of this issue eventually, but it will be out of necessity. I don’t see our Republican controlled legislature or governor doing anything proactive on this issue ever. Any further positive outcome on legalization will have to come from ballot initiative.

Plutonic Panda
12-30-2019, 11:32 AM
^^^ I guess my point is that many act like the democrats are some key to marijuana legalization and I don’t buy that. They have plenty of time to enact national legislation and have not done so.

Furthermore, by technicality, marijuana is still illegal on the federal level. So is it a good precedent to set for states to defy federal law?

jerrywall
12-30-2019, 11:45 AM
I think the divide is more generational than political. It's just going to take time. I think the majority of folks under 50 probably support various forms of legalization, regardless of political alignment. But yeah, conservatives, by their nature, tend to take change slower.

bchris02
12-30-2019, 12:28 PM
Furthermore, by technicality, marijuana is still illegal on the federal level. So is it a good precedent to set for states to defy federal law?

The only alternative right now is going back to 50-state prohibition and killing a billion dollar, fast-growing industry.

And I do think marijuana would be legalized federally pretty quickly if we had a Democratic house, senate, and Presidency.


I think the divide is more generational than political. It's just going to take time. I think the majority of folks under 50 probably support various forms of legalization, regardless of political alignment. But yeah, conservatives, by their nature, tend to take change slower.

I agree with this. For whatever reason, people over a certain age have a hard time with the arguments for legalizing marijuana, even if they take a more libertarian stance on other issues. I wasn't around for the 1970s and 80s, but looking at the culture of the time from Merle Haggard singing "we don't smoke marijuana in Muskogee" to Ronald Reagan saying that it's the most dangerous substance known to man, it's pretty clear that in the post-Vietnam era, marijuana was demonized and blamed heavily for society's ills.

Plutonic Panda
12-30-2019, 01:35 PM
The only alternative right now is going back to 50-state prohibition and killing a billion dollar, fast-growing industry.

Why does that have to be the only alternative? No one is suggesting that. As for your last sentence, I disagree as they have many chances to do so and haven't. Perhaps with a new wave of democrats things might change; I agree with Jerrywall. You attempted to make it into a partisan issue rather than a generational one and I lean towards the latter being the bigger reason we haven't seen national legalization.

To further clarify, I also don't think taking that position gives an ultimatum of having to go back to prohibition or not.

David
12-30-2019, 07:04 PM
Why does that have to be the only alternative? No one is suggesting that. As for your last sentence, I disagree as they have many chances to do so and haven't. Perhaps with a new wave of democrats things might change; I agree with Jerrywall. You attempted to make it into a partisan issue rather than a generational one and I lean towards the latter being the bigger reason we haven't seen national legalization.

To further clarify, I also don't think taking that position gives an ultimatum of having to go back to prohibition or not.

The last time we had a full Democratic congress and presidency was a decade ago, and at that time public opinion on cannabis was not even remotely where it is now.

soonerguru
12-31-2019, 12:27 AM
Does anyone have a copy of the new language? The first bill was atrocious -- and I support adult recreational use.

It's so rare to say this, but Oklahoma did everything right with 788. Like literally everything. But, the recreational bill that was first filed seemed to open the door to major corporations taking over our nascent cannabis industry. And worse, it seemed to take away freedoms we already have, like public smoking. It had the feel of a Trojan horse.

I know one of the original signatories, and she is a good person, but I think she may have been mislead. I'm all in favor of a well-written recreational bill, but 806 was a horror story.

It says a lot about the grassroots power of Oklahoma's cannabis movement that they pulled the petition. I just have yet to see anything substantive about the rewrite.

The person I know involved in the first draft has completely withdrawn from the effort.

As stated upthread, Oklahoma has a highly functioning cannabis delivery system that is practically recreational now. Oklahoma is the number one cannabis medical state per capita by patients and sales volume, and among the top 10 cannabis states in the union now. Let's not mess up a good thing until we have the right bill.

soonerguru
12-31-2019, 12:43 AM
Why does that have to be the only alternative? No one is suggesting that. As for your last sentence, I disagree as they have many chances to do so and haven't. Perhaps with a new wave of democrats things might change; I agree with Jerrywall. You attempted to make it into a partisan issue rather than a generational one and I lean towards the latter being the bigger reason we haven't seen national legalization.

To further clarify, I also don't think taking that position gives an ultimatum of having to go back to prohibition or not.

It may not be completely partisan, but the Democratic House of Representatives passed the cannabis banking bill by a huge margin (with Oklahoma City's Kendra Horn voting "Yes"), but it is wasting away in a pile on McConnell's desk, unable to reach the floor of the Republican US Senate. So basically people who own dispensaries in OKC are getting robbed at gunpoint (three or four in the last two weeks) because they have all this cash stashed in a safe. And people in the industry cannot do basic banking.

So, yeah, it's ****ing partisan at the moment. If Trump gave a hooey he could call up Mitch and get it done. Do you see Inhofe and Lankford fighting to get this bill on the floor of the Senate? I don't.

bchris02
12-31-2019, 06:52 AM
It may not be completely partisan, but the Democratic House of Representatives passed the cannabis banking bill by a huge margin (with Oklahoma City's Kendra Horn voting "Yes"), but it is wasting away in a pile on McConnell's desk, unable to reach the floor of the Republican US Senate. So basically people who own dispensaries in OKC are getting robbed at gunpoint (three or four in the last two weeks) because they have all this cash stashed in a safe. And people in the industry cannot do basic banking.

So, yeah, it's ****ing partisan at the moment. If Trump gave a hooey he could call up Mitch and get it done. Do you see Inhofe and Lankford fighting to get this bill on the floor of the Senate? I don't.

Great points. It very much is partisan at the time since our country is still run by conservative boomers still living in the Nancy Reagan "Just Say NO" era. Even if younger Republicans are more open to legalization, they don't run the party yet. Every time there's a vote dealing with marijuana among lawmakers, it's always pretty much right down partisan lines with Democrats voting in favor and Republicans voting against.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxHBx6H-xFo

David
12-31-2019, 02:16 PM
Does anyone have a copy of the new language? The first bill was atrocious -- and I support adult recreational use.

It's so rare to say this, but Oklahoma did everything right with 788. Like literally everything. But, the recreational bill that was first filed seemed to open the door to major corporations taking over our nascent cannabis industry. And worse, it seemed to take away freedoms we already have, like public smoking. It had the feel of a Trojan horse.

I know one of the original signatories, and she is a good person, but I think she may have been mislead. I'm all in favor of a well-written recreational bill, but 806 was a horror story.

It says a lot about the grassroots power of Oklahoma's cannabis movement that they pulled the petition. I just have yet to see anything substantive about the rewrite.

The person I know involved in the first draft has completely withdrawn from the effort.

As stated upthread, Oklahoma has a highly functioning cannabis delivery system that is practically recreational now. Oklahoma is the number one cannabis medical state per capita by patients and sales volume, and among the top 10 cannabis states in the union now. Let's not mess up a good thing until we have the right bill.

Great points. It really is kind of amazing how well SQ 788 has worked out for Oklahoma, from public support to how the legislature has responded.

TheTravellers
12-31-2019, 02:28 PM
Great points. It really is kind of amazing how well SQ 788 has worked out for Oklahoma, from public support to how the legislature has responded.

Well, it really hasn't worked out as intended for people needing to use marijuana for actual medical purposes, here's a great article explaining why:

http://readextract.com/2019/12/23/medical-program/

Bill Robertson
12-31-2019, 03:49 PM
Well, it really hasn't worked out as intended for people needing to use marijuana for actual medical purposes, here's a great article explaining why:

http://readextract.com/2019/12/23/medical-program/
I’m not sure it can be said that it hasn't worked out for people needing it for actual true medical needs. But there are a lot of people that have cards without any real medical need. Pretty much anyone can get a card in no time if they want one. Even over the internet without even seeing a prescriber as someone suggested to me on here. We hang out every Friday with a group of folks at a Chilis that most used before the law and now one works for a dispensary and got everyone cards and has them as customers. I have a relative that has a very similar setup as a dispensary employee. Medical? Please! It’s recreational but with the caveat that a card is required and records are kept.

mkjeeves
12-31-2019, 03:59 PM
I’m not sure it can be said that it hasn't worked out for people needing it for actual true medical needs. But there are a lot of people that have cards without any real medical need. Pretty much anyone can get a card in no time if they want one. Even over the internet without even seeing a prescriber as someone suggested to me on here. We hang out every Friday with a group of folks at a Chilis that most used before the law and now one works for a dispensary and got everyone cards and has them as customers. I have a relative that has a very similar setup as a dispensary employee. Medical? Please! It’s recreational but with the caveat that a card is required and records are kept.

For people who didn’t care about the law before and/or don’t care about the law now, that might be true.

TheTravellers
12-31-2019, 04:01 PM
I’m not sure it can be said that it hasn't worked out for people needing it for actual true medical needs. But there are a lot of people that have cards without any real medical need. Pretty much anyone can get a card in no time if they want one. Even over the internet without even seeing a prescriber as someone suggested to me on here. We hang out every Friday with a group of folks at a Chilis that most used before the law and now one works for a dispensary and got everyone cards and has them as customers. I have a relative that has a very similar setup as a dispensary employee. Medical? Please! It’s recreational but with the caveat that a card is required and records are kept.

For *some* who need it for actual medical needs that aren't signed up with MDs/official pain programs/official anything, yeah, it can work (Uncle Joe who isn't seeing a doctor, but has back and knee pain from his old football days when he broke both), but as the article said, docs are running scared, patients are running scared, drug testing for official pain mgmt programs are happening, and it's not working out as intended for *a lot* of other people, it's all in the article.

And yes, absolutely, it's recreational with a little more paperwork added to the mix, that's been known for months.

Mel
12-31-2019, 04:09 PM
Not sure if Oklahoma would do something like this. Illinois had it written into the Rec. Bill.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/illinois-governor-clears-thousands-of-marijuana-convictions/ar-BBYvlyf?ocid=spartanntp

BlackmoreRulz
01-01-2020, 08:48 AM
Not sure if Oklahoma would do something like this. Illinois had it written into the Rec. Bill.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/illinois-governor-clears-thousands-of-marijuana-convictions/ar-BBYvlyf?ocid=spartanntp

Pretty sure that language is in the other bill that was submitted 808, even allowing for some kind of reparations.

Reading comments on FB, neither of the bills 807 or 808 has the support of the proponents of 788

gopokes88
01-03-2020, 06:42 PM
On track to collect $84 million in marijuana taxes in 2020, just in case anyone ever thinks this will be repealed.

Also, pretty significant. Bigger than I thought it would be.

https://oklahoman.com/article/5651419/november-dip-gives-way-to-record-december-for-marijuana-industry

Mel
01-04-2020, 03:12 PM
On track to collect $84 million in marijuana taxes in 2020, just in case anyone ever thinks this will be repealed.

Also, pretty significant. Bigger than I thought it would be.

https://oklahoman.com/article/5651419/november-dip-gives-way-to-record-december-for-marijuana-industry

Drat. I do not have a subscription.

GoGators
01-04-2020, 04:01 PM
Drat. I do not have a subscription.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/state-and-regional/november-dip-gives-way-to-record-december-for-marijuana-industry/article_90f6e032-49bb-58a7-9296-836c83e0ae68.html

Mel
01-05-2020, 01:23 AM
https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/state-and-regional/november-dip-gives-way-to-record-december-for-marijuana-industry/article_90f6e032-49bb-58a7-9296-836c83e0ae68.html

Thanks.

Laramie
01-05-2020, 01:12 PM
Just wish we could do something for the marijuana dispensaries; these places are sitting ducks as long as they are not allowed to have access to banking type services. They work on a cash basis which puts the employees as well as customers at risk.

BBatesokc
01-05-2020, 03:30 PM
Just wish we could do something for the marijuana dispensaries; these places are sitting ducks as long as they are not allowed to have access to banking type services. They work on a cash basis which puts the employees as well as customers at risk.

Another issue is one the dispensary owners bring onto themselves. Many won't spend the money required to implement real security protocols or hire qualified and disciplined guards. You often can't hire some $12/hr 'security guard' and expect much - for a variety of reasons.

gopokes88
01-05-2020, 07:51 PM
Just wish we could do something for the marijuana dispensaries; these places are sitting ducks as long as they are not allowed to have access to banking type services. They work on a cash basis which puts the employees as well as customers at risk.

I think safe banking act will pass sometime this summer. Cory Gardner (R-Colorado) needs it to pass, and the repubs need him to get re-elected to boost their chances of holding the senate.

BoulderSooner
01-06-2020, 07:57 AM
I think safe banking act will pass sometime this summer. Cory Gardner (R-Colorado) needs it to pass, and the repubs need him to get re-elected to boost their chances of holding the senate.
republicans have basicly no chance to lose the senate

mkjeeves
01-06-2020, 11:12 AM
republicans have basicly no chance to lose the senate

In 2020.

BoulderSooner
01-06-2020, 12:02 PM
In 2020.

right clearly i didn't mean ever

CloudDeckMedia
01-06-2020, 12:40 PM
I suspect that most of the dispensaries being hit are the “softest targets,” i.e. those that have no visible security equipment or protocols in place, an unimpressive employee behind the counter, general shabby appearance. Bad guys know an easy target when they see it.

Bunty
01-06-2020, 08:02 PM
Rec probably won't pass. A SoonerPoll from last summer showed more than 59 percent of Oklahoma voters would oppose marijuana legalization being expanded to include recreational use. At least there is still plenty of time left for people opposed to change their minds.
https://www.news9.com/story/40980919/soonerpoll-oklahoma-remains-strongly-opposed-to-recreational-marijuana-legalization

David
01-07-2020, 10:03 AM
I doubt it will even get enough signatures to get on the ballot, I just don't see the enthusiasm for as many as would be needed for a constitutional SQ.

Anonymous.
01-07-2020, 10:39 AM
Rec probably won't pass. A SoonerPoll from last summer showed more than 59 percent of Oklahoma voters would oppose marijuana legalization being expanded to include recreational use. At least there is still plenty of time left for people opposed to change their minds.
https://www.news9.com/story/40980919/soonerpoll-oklahoma-remains-strongly-opposed-to-recreational-marijuana-legalization

59% opposition after just a year of medical? Yea that is pretty favorable for passing considering who takes the time to complete these surveys. Don't underestimate the power of young people. Getting them to the polls is the only challenge.

Plutonic Panda
01-07-2020, 09:29 PM
https://kfor.com/2020/01/07/pot-talk-dueling-recreational-marijuana-petitions-aim-for-different-regulations/

shawnw
01-12-2020, 10:37 AM
Something I hadn't seen before... but at Chicago Ohare airport there's a "Cannabis Amnesty Box" where I guess you can drop your stuff into if you forgot to leave it at home and are traveling to a state or country where it's not legal.

RustytheBailiff
01-12-2020, 07:24 PM
We have that at Will Rogers too. Last time I flew out of OKC I left my weed in the amnesty box in the men's room,

shawnw
01-12-2020, 09:52 PM
oh dang, hadn't noticed

catch22
01-13-2020, 08:56 PM
Probably a fairly good job for whoever is responsible for "emptying" that trash can. We have one at Co Springs airport but I don't think at Denver. TSA at DIA don't even check or care about marijuana in luggage. Co Springs is militant about it.

I had 1 single edible in my backpack once going through COS, I had forgotten about it completely. I was walked to the back by a police officer who had to witness me dispose of it and sign some BS note admitting I would never attempt a Class 1 narcotics transport ever again.

The last time I cleaned that backpack out was probably a year prior to that, so I went through TSA at Denver and Oklahoma City about a dozen times since that incident without even a question or concern, a real Barney Fife police force we have in Colorado Springs.

Bunty
01-16-2020, 08:50 PM
In a poll, by a small majority, Oklahomans are opposed to legalization of rec marijuana 47 to 44%.
https://www.soonerpolitics.org/editorial/marijuana-prohibition-may-not-end-with-november-election