They look stoned to me. Seen that look in my earlier years on Paseo and Memorial Park.

As somebody who used to work overnights for 12+ hours/shift for 14-18 days on end... that is the look of sleep deprivation. I worked those hours because I was being paid a ludicrous sum of money. These people are fighting the fundamental human urge to sleep so they can help the movement, likely at a steep personal and financial cost.

They've been out 24/7 in Tulsa trying to make a final push to get more and more signatures. If they were high and sleep deprived, full sentences wouldn't be happening. At least uh... that's what my friend says would happen.

Again, another twist to 2018's legalization movement that I just don't know if we'll ever understand. In review though, consider the following:

-One of the "most conservative" states passed "the most liberal" Medical MJ law in the country.
-They had no paid signature takers and still got 70,000+ signatures.
-If 796/797 was not a constitutional amendment, a celebration would have been in order weeks ago instead of this pseudo-conspiracy-mis-count drama.
-I'm willing to place some blame on Isaac, however they've been going 110%, full bore, and the results we see here are likely a combination of exaggeration and chaos of the final weeks.
-Our elected officials are listening. With the health department BS and the teacher walkout, I feel like the first page of a new chapter in OK politics has been turned.

Despite these shenanigans with GTV (I'm honestly not even willing to call it a setback) I feel that the legalization movement will pick up steam in the coming 12 months.

-The age-old argument of "why is alcohol legal and weed isn't?" will begin to shift. I feel the new argument will be: "it is stupid a doctor has to make the call about this being legal, we should be able to buy it without involving a doctor".

-After the anti-weed folks see that medical hasn't created an apocalyptic wasteland of stoners, they'll be more open to the idea of total legalization.

I'm very proud of the efforts put forth by Green the Vote - they're a grassroots movement trying to change our corrupt system. I wish they wouldn't have misrepresented the count, but.. they did. Time to move on and form a strategy for the next phase.

"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson

“The people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs

That went up in smoke. Sorry folks, I could not help myself.

That went up in smoke. Sorry folks, I could not help myself.

What do expect with Cheech & Chong running things

Intellectual property protection of logos & trademarks isn’t available to pot dispensaries, so don’t spend a lot of money on artwork, a catchy name or tagline - they can be stolen without recourse. So says attorney Rachel Blue of McAfee & Taft. The reason is that the USPTO requires lawful use, and the federal government says that selling marijuana isn’t. This is in Paula Burkes’ Q&A column in today’s Oklahoman: https://newsok.com/article/5604001/qa-with-rachel-blue-no-federal-trademark-protection-for-marijuana

I do wish the pro folks would drop the alcohol/tobacco comparisons. I think it does more harm than good, because it equates marijuana with alcohol/tobacco. Just focus on the benefits, the medical uses, etc. Lot's of things are legal. I can snort baby powder. Probably wouldn't be good for me. But it's not comparable.

Intellectual property protection of logos & trademarks isn’t available to pot dispensaries, so don’t spend a lot of money on artwork, a catchy name or tagline - they can be stolen without recourse. So says attorney Rachel Blue of McAfee & Taft. The reason is that the USPTO requires lawful use, and the federal government says that selling marijuana isn’t. This is in Paula Burkes’ Q&A column in today’s Oklahoman: https://newsok.com/article/5604001/qa-with-rachel-blue-no-federal-trademark-protection-for-marijuana

This, and the problem with banks, and credit cards, and the inability to own guns, are all an issue. My cousin owns multiple dispensaries, and these are all problems, and won't be solved until something is changed on the federal level.

Well in that case, I'm going to name my dispensary "Weed Store, LLC" and my growing operation "Weed Growing Building, LLC".

For being sleep deprived, Issac Caviness was sure able to give a coherent speech outside the temporary Secretary of State's office after petitions were submitted Tuesday afternoon. He said he had no idea how many signatures there were and to be honest after what happened last week would be a fool to try to guess. I bet many people were surprised he would show his face anywhere.

Many petitions came in at the tent setup at the parking lot of the state capitol. As many as 4 notaries busily stamped them.

For being sleep deprived, Issac Caviness was sure able to give a coherent speech outside the temporary Secretary of State's office after petitions were submitted Tuesday afternoon. He said he had no idea how many signatures there were and to be honest after what happened last week would be a fool to try to guess. I bet many people were surprised he would show his face anywhere.

Many petitions came in at the tent setup at the parking lot of the state capitol. As many as 4 notaries busily stamped them.

I applaud those folks and they have my upmost respect. From Caviness down to the last signature taker. I hope they hit their mark. When will we know the real total turned in?

We should know the numbers for SQ796 by the middle of next week. About a week after that we should know if we hit the number for SQ797.

A look at some of the dedicated volunteers who helped run the Ft. Canna signature location at NW Expressway and Meridian from 9 am to 9 pm for the past month. Picture snapped shortly after all signatures were submitted. They helped get thousands of signatures, possibly as many as 35,000+.

http://okie.world/photos/ftcannavolunteers.jpg

We should know the numbers for SQ796 by the middle of next week. About a week after that we should know if we hit the number for SQ797.

A look at some of the dedicated volunteers who helped run the Ft. Canna signature location at NW Expressway and Meridian from 9 am to 9 pm for the past month. Picture snapped shortly after all signatures were submitted. They helped get thousands of signatures, possibly as many as 35,000+.

http://okie.world/photos/ftcannavolunteers.jpg

I'm glad they finally setup out there. Honestly, I think if the OKC area had a few more dedicated signature locations like this it would help tremednously. Ft. Canna has got the NW side covered, but the Southside and Norman area needs something similar. Seems like Tulsa area is significantly more well represented in the legalization efforts.

http://www.normantranscript.com/news/ou-will-not-allow-medical-marijuana-use-by-students-faculty/article_163e5798-9bef-11e8-8287-a7b0993eeb0c.html

http://www.normantranscript.com/news/ou-will-not-allow-medical-marijuana-use-by-students-faculty/article_163e5798-9bef-11e8-8287-a7b0993eeb0c.html

i think this is news to absolutely no one... this was talked about when SQ788 was first getting the petition passed around... it's why it was so dumb when the anti ads were saying that a kid could grow up to 12 plants in his dorm room

So there was thousands turned in at the Capitol from all around the City and State and they figured they had close to 90k that was brought down from Tulsa. So maybe there is a chance they went over the required amount. I guess when we see the numbers for 796 we should prob have a good idea about 797.

https://www.koco.com/article/recreational-marijuana-petition-falls-short-of-signatures-needed-officials-say/22777758?src=app

Wow! I’m surprised it fell short by that much. It sounds like GTV was putting out inflated numbers? That seems idiotic to me, I wanted to sign the petition but never got around to it because GTV kept putting out these huge numbers. I’m sure there are plenty like me.

Wow! I’m surprised it fell short by that much. It sounds like GTV was putting out inflated numbers? That seems idiotic to me, I wanted to sign the petition but never got around to it because GTV kept putting out these huge numbers. I’m sure there are plenty like me.

He confessed that he inflated the numbers and has since resigned. Idiotic strategy. I wish everyone who wanted to sign it would have just taken 5 minutes out of their day to do so, though... in the scheme of things it got awfully close.

It's going to take someone or some group that is better funded that GTV was to make this happen in the future if that is the plan IMO.

It's going to take someone or some group that is better funded that GTV was to make this happen in the future if that is the plan IMO.

Only if they insist on going the constitutional amendment route. If this was a law like 788, victory would have been long ago. Heck, as far as I know I don't think GTV had any funding aside from donations and volunteers.

I think their initial pitch was somewhat confusing - 788 had just passed, or was near being voted on, and they come up with "a petition for medical and recreational cannabis". To the layperson, many are likely to be confused by the fact that we already legalized medical, so why do we need more petitions?

Next time around, the message will be more clear, less rushed, and there will be quite a few legal cannabis businesses that will use their profits to control government - the American way.

http://www.news9.com/story/39169616/okc-city-council-passes-city-ordinance-concerning-marijuana

Can somebody tell me what actually constitutes a "small amount" of marijuana. Is that at the discretion of the police officer or is there a specific weight?

http://www.news9.com/story/39169616/okc-city-council-passes-city-ordinance-concerning-marijuana

Can somebody tell me what actually constitutes a "small amount" of marijuana. Is that at the discretion of the police officer or is there a specific weight?

I'd like to know this as well. Also, if this is the case, why do they not just legalize recreational marijuana? Doesn't this almost practically decriminalize it? Yes, you still have to pay the fine if you aren't afraid of getting caught, but is there a catch? If you are caught so many times, do you get jail time?

I'd like to know this as well. Also, if this is the case, why do they not just legalize recreational marijuana? Doesn't this almost practically decriminalize it? Yes, you still have to pay the fine if you aren't afraid of getting caught, but is there a catch? If you are caught so many times, do you get jail time?

Could a city take it upon themselves to legalize without the state's consent?

Could a city take it upon themselves to legalize without the state's consent?

Probably, just don't go to the neighboring city with it.

Could a city take it upon themselves to legalize without the state's consent?

This is a Dillon's Rule state, so they could, and the state could invalidate the decriminalization/legalization if they so choose, I'd imagine. Has happened before here with other things (minimum wage, I believe).

SQ788 says that if you have 1.5 oz or less and can state a medical condition you're using it for, you get a $400 fine. I'd bet the city council minutes have the details, but don't have the time to check them out to see, be interesting to see how different from SQ788 the limit is. And it better be for a specific weight, not be at the cop's discretion, that way lies madness.

The first legal Oklahoma medical marijuana plant was recently sold. One of the most brilliant parts of SQ788 was not allowing the government to fool around to implementing legal med marijuana by requiring short time limits to roll it out.
http://www.news9.com/story/39180948/first-legal-oklahoma-medical-marijuana-plant-sold

Wow... good piece in the Tulsa World about all the shenanigans that went on between all the conspiring parties that wanted the will of the voters overturned.


https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/marijuana/board-members-circumvented-health-department-attorney-sought-outside-help-to/article_01f2c4f0-cf27-5630-b461-921900165705.html

Hard to believe that a group of non elected folks could have the power to implement regulations as they see fit to advance their own agendas. Leaves the door open and begging for corruption. One of them even had the gall to say that {507k} supporters of 788 didn't know what they were voting for.

I'd like to know this as well. Also, if this is the case, why do they not just legalize recreational marijuana? Doesn't this almost practically decriminalize it? Yes, you still have to pay the fine if you aren't afraid of getting caught, but is there a catch? If you are caught so many times, do you get jail time?
I think most places with rules like that they are still keeping it criminalized, but they are pretty much just focusing on the dealers.

It was overall a good night for cannabis legalization. Michigan went recreational. Utah and Missouri legalized medical. Virulently anti-legalization Pete Sessions lost in Texas which may open up opportunity to debate this issue at the national level. However, North Dakota shot down a recreational marijuana referendum much like Arizona did in 2016, affirming that red states are still not quite ready for recreational legalization or at least calling it recreational.

With Oklahoma bucking the national trend and moving even farther to the right, I'm concerned about the upcoming legislative session and attempts to sabotage SQ788. Hopefully they don't try to go there after the outrage earlier this year when the health department attempted to overrule the will of the people.

It was overall a good night for cannabis legalization. Michigan went recreational. Utah and Missouri legalized medical. Virulently anti-legalization Pete Sessions lost in Texas which may open up opportunity to debate this issue at the national level. However, North Dakota shot down a recreational marijuana referendum much like Arizona did in 2016, affirming that red states are still not quite ready for recreational legalization.

With Oklahoma bucking the national trend and moving even farther to the right, I'm concerned about the upcoming legislative session and attempts to sabotage SQ788. Hopefully they don't try to go there after the outrage earlier this year when the health department attempted to overrule the will of the people.

With you being the ultimate pessimist, I would expect nothing less than you worrying Jesus will be ruling the Capitol with an iron fist.

bchrist, it's not 1999 any more back when people in Oklahoma were trying to ban the "The Tin Drum" and Penthouse magazine. The state has become much less religiously oppressive and prohibitive since then. Count your blessings.

As for med marijuana the worst that may happen won't be too bad at all. The House and Senate may not be able to reach an agreement on a bill to regulate med marijuana, and so it may go on as it is regulated only from the state health department.

More good news for anybody interested in this topic. AG Jeff Sessions was another major stumbling block standing in the way of federal legalization.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/politics/sessions-resign/index.html

More good news for anybody interested in this topic. AG Jeff Sessions was another major stumbling block standing in the way of federal legalization.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/politics/sessions-resign/index.htmlThis I like. It being legalized federally would be required for me to take advantage of any local legislation.

This I like. It being legalized federally would be required for me to take advantage of any local legislation.

It's just a matter of time IMO and that time is getting closer.

I really hope so. With my hip replacements and back/knee pain I would love to try cannabis for relief but I can’t risk losing my job.

Other than the smell of the grow operations, l don't have any major objections to it. Legal pot definitely has an inverse relationship with booze so its not as dangerous.

We are sill having major problems with illegal grow houses in Denver, though. Not sure why.

Other than the smell of the grow operations, l don't have any major objections to it. Legal pot definitely has an inverse relationship with booze so its not as dangerous.

We are sill having major problems with illegal grow houses in Denver, though. Not sure why.

sales to other states for big profit$

I got my approval email from OMMA. should be getting my card any day.

I got my approval email from OMMA. should be getting my card any day.

Dumb question, but are there MMJ dispensaries in OKC yet?

I have not looked that part up yet. Waiting for my card and the Booklet of Info and Rules. I think, I remember reading somewhere, that some will be open later this month.

Dumb question, but are there MMJ dispensaries in OKC yet?

Yes, several! It is possible to purchase cannabis legally today in OKC.

Dumb question, but are there MMJ dispensaries in OKC yet?

It's still under construction, but I just noticed one last night at Tulsa & 39th Expressway next to the 7/11.

On another note, it's still somewhat shocking to me to see such public signs of marijuana here in Oklahoma. The big pot leaf on the Hempy'z sign in Moore makes me laugh. The times, they are a-changin'...

Yes, several! It is possible to purchase cannabis legally today in OKC.

That's good news. I had been waiting to meet with my doctor until there were shops actually open.

I see them popping up everywhere but don't know if they actually have any product to sell. I swore I heard it would be January before they had the goods.

It's still under construction, but I just noticed one last night at Tulsa & 39th Expressway next to the 7/11.

On another note, it's still somewhat shocking to me to see such public signs of marijuana here in Oklahoma. The big pot leaf on the Hempy'z sign in Moore makes me laugh. The times, they are a-changin'...

I know how you feel. I honestly thought I would be resting in my Urn for years, and then boom. Maybe when I am holding my card in my hand, I will finally accept it.

I see them popping up everywhere but don't know if they actually have any product to sell. I swore I heard it would be January before they had the goods.

Read this in the print Gazette last night:

https://www.okgazette.com/oklahoma/new-sooners/Content?oid=4942447

That's good news. I had been waiting to meet with my doctor until there were shops actually open.

Hopefully your doctor and the corp he works for (if any) are amenable to it. My doctor said he's for medical, not recreational (still trots out the old "gateway drug" crap for recreational), but the corp he works for (Mercy) is discussing if they'll let doctors prescribe it, and he was thinking they won't, and said most major hospital/doctor corps probably won't (Integris, whoever owns Deaconess now, etc.). Just hearsay and his opinion, though, so we'll see what happens...

I believe most Doctors and the Hospital System they are tied to, will avoid messing with this. Just like they do about working with you on getting disability. They do not want to cross swords with the Feds, or get the rep as "that" kind of Doctor. In case you are curious, this is what the card looks like. With redactions.15005

https://newsok.com/article/5614928/state-baptists-express-alarm-about-acceptance-of-recreational-marijuana-other-illegal-drugs

Irrelevant.
1. There are way more people of voting age that do not follow the whims of the SBC. Paper Tigers.
2. The legislature will not be a factor, just as they were not a factor in the medical approval. When it comes it will be driven by initiative petition.

https://newsok.com/article/5614928/state-baptists-express-alarm-about-acceptance-of-recreational-marijuana-other-illegal-drugs
well that's a lot of nothing but people trying to feel important. SBC doesn't really have much to do with all that. but glad they feel better about their little resolutions

Slightly on topic. I think this crop would be a nice boost to Oklahoma Agriculture. It makes very strong rope and is biodegradable. Unlike the Nylon and Plastic rope, that never seems to go away. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/hemp-legalization-in-new-farm-bill-could-open-the-floodgates-on-nascent-industry/ar-BBQE7E3?ocid=spartandhp

Slightly on topic. I think this crop would be a nice boost to Oklahoma Agriculture. It makes very strong rope and is biodegradable. Unlike the Nylon and Plastic rope, that never seems to go away. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/hemp-legalization-in-new-farm-bill-could-open-the-floodgates-on-nascent-industry/ar-BBQE7E3?ocid=spartandhpOnly slightly on topic. Hemp and cannibus are in the same family but are two different plants. Hemp doesn’t produce any psychoactive compounds.

Hence, the slightly on topic statement. I did not find a Hemp thread. We have the perfect soil and weather conditions for this crop. This would be a good crash crop for Ok. https://www.growandmake.com/make-hemp-rope/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hemp-industry-expected-to-blossom-under-new-farm-bill/ar-BBR2mmi?ocid=spartandhp

Quite the revenue stream

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/its-been-5-years-since-recreational-marijuana-was-legalized-in-colorado-heres-where-the-tax-money-stands

I'm hoping the legislature allows the medical cannabis program in Oklahoma to continue as is without too many additional restrictions. Once people see that it's not going to cause the sky to fall, we can start talking recreational legalization. Oklahoma needs to beat Texas to the punch on that.

And so it begins.

http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2019-20%20int/SB/SB325%20int.pdf

Tl;Dr - it gives counties the option to completely ban marijuana and even to arrest cardholders. In addition, it removes employment protections for cardholders.

And so it begins.

http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2019-20%20int/SB/SB325%20int.pdf

Tl;Dr - it gives counties the option to completely ban marijuana and even to arrest cardholders. In addition, it removes employment protections for cardholders.

No ..just if they use it while at work, which is how it is everywhere.

I can understand having a county option to ban dispensaries and grow ops similar to the way Arkansas handles dry counties. In fact I'm surprised that wasn't already a part of 788. However, allowing counties to completely ignore 788 and continue full-on prohibition is going to be a big problem.