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06-28-2018, 08:32 AM
Speaking as an independent. If you want to vote in the Republican party primary, just join the party. You have no valid complaint.
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dcsooner 06-28-2018, 08:32 AM Speaking as an independent. If you want to vote in the Republican party primary, just join the party. You have no valid complaint. +1 OKCRT 06-28-2018, 08:45 AM So you would have filled in every single box on a R ballot? You could have just handed the D ballot back to them, or left it blank. I would have voted for who I wanted to vote for like Mick but didn't have the choice. I would have also voted for Howell but didn't have that option. OKCRT 06-28-2018, 08:47 AM "They" only gave you a Democratic ballot because the Republican party has decided not to open its primary to Independents. It doesn't have to be this way. Correct it doesn't have to be this way and it shouldn't IMO. Urbanized 06-28-2018, 09:27 AM Only reason I knew that off the top of my head was because I was just home in KS for a high school reunion of sorts and was talking to some folks about OK voting on MMJ and they were surprised and wondering if KS might pass something if OK did. Still had to wikipedia it though before posting cause I thought 'no way Urbanized has something wrong, I don't want to look like a dummy contradicting him!' lol Haha too kind but I’m sure I get stuff wrong all of the time. The thing is I try to make sure if/when it happens that it’s opinion and not something that can be disproved with easily-obtained empirical evidence. :) d-usa 06-28-2018, 10:37 AM https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/27/politics/marijuana-legalization-tipping-point/index.html tl;dr If Oklahoma legalizes anything, it must mean something. Bunty 06-28-2018, 10:52 AM Free publicity on the petitions to vote on putting legalized medical and rec marijuana in the Oklahoma Constitution, so legislators, hopefully, can't mess with them: http://ktul.com/news/local/push-for-legalized-marijuana-grows-with-more-petitions Interestingly, petition for medical marijuana is more restrictive than SQ788 in at least one way. Unlike SQ788, it names a bunch of medical conditions only allowed to be covered. However, it allows for any other condition when two doctors agree. On the other hand, the petition allows for slightly more plants - 8 seedlings and 8 mature while SQ788 it's 6 for both. bchris02 06-28-2018, 11:36 AM https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/27/politics/marijuana-legalization-tipping-point/index.html tl;dr If Oklahoma legalizes anything, it must mean something. I agree with this. The fact that SQ788 passed in Oklahoma is a turning point nationwide for marijuana legalization. Oklahoma, at the state level, tends to resist social change more than about any other state except maybe Utah (and they are also voting on MMJ this year). It took until 1984 for liquor by the drink, 2003 for the lottery, 2006 for tattoos, and 2016 to finally do away with 3.2 beer. Medical marijuana in Oklahoma, especially given how the opposition framed it as recreational, is a big deal. It means the ship has sailed nationally on marijuana prohibition and it's just a matter of time before it's legal. Laramie 06-28-2018, 11:47 AM https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/27/politics/marijuana-legalization-tipping-point/index.html tl;dr If Oklahoma legalizes anything, it must mean something. https://cdn.herb.co/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Where-is-Marijuana-Legal-in-the-U.S.A.-3-of-3.jpg Progress https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/12fd6433-e5f4-41bc-8720-c2da7cf90953.png . Laramie 06-28-2018, 12:32 PM Texas has the cannibals oil, will Oklahoma or Texas be concerned about the borders with the passage of SQ 788? BLJR 06-28-2018, 12:51 PM Not being a smart ass, I seriously have a question.... So Gov Fallin approved this to go on the ballot. I assume that she read through it and by her approving it for the ballot, it had her blessing. Now that it has passed, she is going to call special session to add additional laws, make changes, etc..... If I am understanding this correctly (and I may not be), why didn't she recommend those changes be made before ballot approval, but now will call special session to waste more political time and effort, even though it is already a waste.... BoulderSooner 06-28-2018, 01:19 PM Not being a smart ass, I seriously have a question.... So Gov Fallin approved this to go on the ballot. I assume that she read through it and by her approving it for the ballot, it had her blessing. Now that it has passed, she is going to call special session to add additional laws, make changes, etc..... If I am understanding this correctly (and I may not be), why didn't she recommend those changes be made before ballot approval, but now will call special session to waste more political time and effort, even though it is already a waste.... She nor the legislature had anything to do with the ballot language and nad no ablility to change it gopokes88 06-28-2018, 01:20 PM Not being a smart ass, I seriously have a question.... So Gov Fallin approved this to go on the ballot. I assume that she read through it and by her approving it for the ballot, it had her blessing. Now that it has passed, she is going to call special session to add additional laws, make changes, etc..... If I am understanding this correctly (and I may not be), why didn't she recommend those changes be made before ballot approval, but now will call special session to waste more political time and effort, even though it is already a waste.... Plus, if she called a special session before the vote it would basically be like the No's admitting defeat before it actually passed, which would depress and hurt the no votes chances. Bunty 06-28-2018, 02:34 PM I agree with this. The fact that SQ788 passed in Oklahoma is a turning point nationwide for marijuana legalization. Oklahoma, at the state level, tends to resist social change more than about any other state except maybe Utah (and they are also voting on MMJ this year). It took until 1984 for liquor by the drink, 2003 for the lottery, 2006 for tattoos, and 2016 to finally do away with 3.2 beer. Medical marijuana in Oklahoma, especially given how the opposition framed it as recreational, is a big deal. It means the ship has sailed nationally on marijuana prohibition and it's just a matter of time before it's legal. I agree. It will be interesting to see if the 7 Oklahoma legislators in DC will continue voting or talking against marijuana through November. Will they keep to their canned letters? I wonder if they all thought after being out of touch with Oklahomans from being there in DC that SQ788 didn't have a chance of passing. ultimatesooner 06-28-2018, 02:38 PM Not being a smart ass, I seriously have a question.... So Gov Fallin approved this to go on the ballot. I assume that she read through it and by her approving it for the ballot, it had her blessing. Now that it has passed, she is going to call special session to add additional laws, make changes, etc..... If I am understanding this correctly (and I may not be), why didn't she recommend those changes be made before ballot approval, but now will call special session to waste more political time and effort, even though it is already a waste.... because she is a complete freaking moron - i can't wait for her to GTFO, she's part of the swamp that needs draining OKCRT 06-28-2018, 04:49 PM I'm pretty sure it needed a rewrite before she would let it on the ballot. Then they said there wasn't enough time to get it on the Nov. ballot thus why it was pushed to the Primary. I assumed they wanted it on the Primary all along since that usually has a much lower turnout at the polls. I also assume they prob figured the NOs could throw out all the scare tactics with the negative advertising dollars and control the vote much easier. What they didn't (I assume) figure was the passion that the people of Oklahoma had for this issue. Now if they mess with this too much there's a good possibility the trouble makers will be voted out since a huge number of passionate voters turned out in favor of this. Laramie 06-28-2018, 05:01 PM Not being a smart ass, I seriously have a question.... So Gov Fallin approved this to go on the ballot. I assume that she read through it and by her approving it for the ballot, it had her blessing. Now that it has passed, she is going to call special session to add additional laws, make changes, etc..... If I am understanding this correctly (and I may not be), why didn't she recommend those changes be made before ballot approval, but now will call special session to waste more political time and effort, even though it is already a waste.... It's obvious that they were setting State Question 788 up for failure. http://blogmedia.dealerfire.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2016/10/Trick-or-Treat-Times-B-b.jpg https://store-images.s-microsoft.com/image/apps.55941.13948726642345185.302d7001-9032-4afe-845c-b25bcccc7bd5.9645a81f-237c-4c21-ac52-34fe6475854d?w=180&h=180&q=60 Oklahoma just passed a unique State Question that combined medical, medicinal & recreational marijuana. baralheia 06-28-2018, 05:11 PM It's obvious that they were setting State Question 788 up for failure. [...] Oklahoma just passed a unique State Question that combined medical, medicinal & recreational marijuana. No part of SQ 788 legalizes or supports recreational marijuana; the language as passed by voters requires a board certified physician that patients have an existing relationship with to recommend it's use before they can apply for the $100 permit to use it. Laramie 06-28-2018, 05:50 PM No part of SQ 788 legalizes or supports recreational marijuana; the language as passed by voters requires a board certified physician that patients have an existing relationship with to recommend it's use before they can apply for the $100 permit to use it. Truly hope that's the case. A few pill mill physicians were exposed with prescription drugs; let's hope there's no abuses with medical marijuana. There's always room for abuses. Just heard on KFOR-TV about how Guns & Marijuana don't mix--stay tuned... ...shouldn't the same apply to Colorado, New Mexico & Arkansas. Strange that the Federal Government has come into play; yet we talk about local-state being given more control. Yes, I'm a non-smoker (cigarettes, pot) so I won't benefit from SQ 788; yet I voted YES, State needs to benefit from every crumb of income. Rational, boot the bootleggers out. Bunty 06-28-2018, 09:30 PM Leading legislators are talking about there probably being no need for a special session and to depend on the state health dept. to launch the medical marijuana program. It's been preparing for it since April. Laramie 06-28-2018, 10:10 PM What's this with Guns & Medical Marijuana; yet you can own a gun and drink alcohol? jerrywall 06-28-2018, 10:20 PM Because it's a Federally illegal controlled substance and that's one of the questions that the ATF form asks when you attempt to purchase a gun from a dealer. Alcohol isn't illegal. Until they reclassify (which I believe is coming) this wont change. BG918 06-29-2018, 12:53 AM Updated map https://amp-businessinsider-com.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/amp.businessinsider.com/images/5b354617ea02cb2c008b46d1-750-598.png LocoAko 06-29-2018, 08:28 AM Leading legislators are talking about there probably being no need for a special session and to depend on the state health dept. to launch the medical marijuana program. It's been preparing for it since April. Sounds that way. Here's the Tulsa World article: http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepagelatest/special-session-may-not-be-needed-for-medical-marijuana-regulations/article_ab020454-2e93-531c-a3c2-23fc02d74cee.html CloudDeckMedia 06-29-2018, 09:36 AM The language of SQ788 was never intended to be the final law. That was made clear by everyone. The special session is necessary to write that law, and the guidelines for who can diagnose, what diagnoses are applicable, how prescribed, where prescribed, sales taxation, tracking those with licenses and their Rx refills, etc. Also which state agencies would be involved, and how. I believe Sen. Ervin Yen authored a bill earlier this year that addressed most of those issues so voters would know all of these details IF SQ788 passed, but it never made it out of committee. So that’s where we are. OKCRT 06-29-2018, 10:13 AM The language of SQ788 was never intended to be the final law. That was made clear by everyone. The special session is necessary to write that law, and the guidelines for who can diagnose, what diagnoses are applicable, how prescribed, where prescribed, sales taxation, tracking those with licenses and their Rx refills, etc. Also which state agencies would be involved, and how. I believe Sen. Ervin Yen authored a bill earlier this year that addressed most of those issues so voters would know all of these details IF SQ788 passed, but it never made it out of committee. So that’s where we are. A Dr. should be the deciding factor in who qualifies or doesn't. The Health Dept. should make the rules that the medical folks should follow IMO. Don't need the Legislature fooling around with this IMO and from the sounds of it they don't want to deal with it either. They are not qualified. BTW,in the end I don't think it will matter because it looks like it will be recreational sooner or later. If the Legislature gets involved and put harsh restrictions it will prob be sooner rather than later. Esp. something like that nonsense Yen tried to get in. Ross MacLochness 06-29-2018, 10:23 AM The language of SQ788 was never intended to be the final law. That was made clear by everyone. The special session is necessary to write that law, and the guidelines for who can diagnose, what diagnoses are applicable, how prescribed, where prescribed, sales taxation, tracking those with licenses and their Rx refills, etc. Also which state agencies would be involved, and how. I believe Sen. Ervin Yen authored a bill earlier this year that addressed most of those issues so voters would know all of these details IF SQ788 passed, but it never made it out of committee. So that’s where we are. Sen. Yen wrote a bill that essentially gutted 788. It would have restricted MMJ use to only two or three rare conditions and would have restricted the number of dispensaries in the state to 5 i think.. I'm not sure if it was his bill or the other one that was proposed in the house but I believe it would have also forced MMJ patients to be listed on a federal register of some kind and would have increased punishments (i.e. severe jail time) for distributing MMJ if you are a patient giving it to a non patient. It's a wonderful thing that he was sacked by the voters! One of my GF's relatives, who is an extremely conservative baptist, voted against Yen's bill and said that he and other's who were trying to restrict MMJ sale and use were doing so for their and their friends chance to be the ones making money off this instead of opening up the market. CloudDeckMedia 06-29-2018, 10:30 AM Sen. Yen, his bill and allegations about his motives are irrelevant. My point was to explain why passing SQ788 doesn’t instantly enable someone to obtain the drug. BLJR and others want to know why. Ross MacLochness 06-29-2018, 10:40 AM Sen. Yen, his bill and allegations about his motives are irrelevant. My point was to explain why passing SQ788 doesn’t instantly enable someone to obtain the drug. BLJR and others want to know why. Right. And I agree! But Sen. Yen's bill was terrible which is why it never made it. It was relevant to this convo because you brought it up as an example. There is still much to do, like putting programs in place to be able to inspect farmers' crops for quality, safety, chemical content, potency, etc.. How to manage dispensaries, licences, transport, packaging, yada yada. Why would the legislators need to be involved in any of this? The proposed rules already will quiet the fears of the anti-788 campaign like smoking in public, not being able to fire someone for mj use, etc.. Seems like health professionals and the actual government agency that was set up to handle this should handle this going forward. Laramie 06-29-2018, 11:21 AM SQ 788 was passed into law by the voters. The Oklahoma Republican controlled lawmakers put some pieces into this legislation in an attempt to set it up for failure. Now they know better than to tinker with the law they proposed and put before the voters as they resort to fear-mongering to suppress applications for future licenses. The farmers supported this law because of the growth piece. The recreational piece I talked about has to do with cultivation of a limited number of plants. How many laws permit you to grow or manufacture your own controlled dangerous substance; think about it? People are on more powerful drugs than medical marijuana, they aren't being forced to make a choice; what does this have to do with guns. You think the government (federal or local) is going to enforce this law and prosecute people who have a medical marijuana license and force them to give up their guns--our most basic and fundamental right. Laramie 06-29-2018, 11:52 AM Colorado: Home grow laws Coloradans can grow marijuana in their homes for personal use. https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/marijuana/home-grow-laws Up to six plants are allowed per Colorado resident over age 21, with as many as three plants flowering at one time. Beginning January 1, 2018, all residences will be limited to a maximum of 12 plants unless certain requirements are met. Be sure to check your local laws for specific details. Don’t forget that counties and municipalities can pass stricter laws. For example, Denver limits a home grow to 12 plants, even if there are three or more adults over age 21 in the residence. The laws are different for medical marijuana users. jerrywall 06-29-2018, 11:54 AM They will deny the purchase unless you commit a felony and lie on your ATF application. This has nothing to do with the state. pw405 06-29-2018, 12:58 PM The language of SQ788 was never intended to be the final law. That was made clear by everyone. The special session is necessary to write that law, and the guidelines for who can diagnose, what diagnoses are applicable, how prescribed, where prescribed, sales taxation, tracking those with licenses and their Rx refills, etc. Also which state agencies would be involved, and how. I believe Sen. Ervin Yen authored a bill earlier this year that addressed most of those issues so voters would know all of these details IF SQ788 passed, but it never made it out of committee. So that’s where we are. Here's how the majority of these questions are answered. This is now the law. Who can diagnose and what diagnosis are available: Section 1 M. All applications for a medical license must be signed by an Oklahoma Board certified physician. There are no qualifying conditions. A medical marijuana license must be recommended according to the accepted standards a reasonable and prudent physician would follow when recommending or approving any medication. No physician may be unduly stigmatized or harassed for signing a medical marijuana license application. How Prescribed: F. Medical marijuana license applicants will submit their application to the Oklahoma State Department of Health for approval and that the applicant must be an Oklahoma state resident and shall prove residency by a valid driver’s license, utility bills, or other accepted methods. G. The Oklahoma State Department of Health shall review the medical marijuana application, approve/reject the application, and mail the applicant’s approval or rejection letter (stating reasons for rejection) to the applicant within fourteen (14) days of receipt of the application. Approved applicants will be issued a medical marijuana license which will act as proof of their approved status. Applications may only be rejected based on applicant not meeting stated criteria or improper completion of the application. Sales Taxation: A new section of law to be codified in the Oklahoma Statutes as Section 426 of Title 63, unless there is created a duplication in numbering, reads as follows: A. The tax on retail medical marijuana sales will be established at seven percent (7%) of the gross amount received by the seller. Tracking Those With Licenses: H. The Oklahoma State Department of Health will only keep the following records for each approved medical license: 1. a digital photograph of the license holder; 2. the expiration date of the license; 3. the county where the card was issued; and 4. a unique 24 character identification number assigned to the license. What departments: The Oklahoma Department of Health pw405 06-29-2018, 01:02 PM Oklahoma's Medical Cannabis industry estimated to be worth $100,000,000 - $150,000,000: https://mjbizdaily.com/hold-oklahoma-becomes-latest-state-to-legalize-medical-cannabis/ Seems that the house & senate leadership's desire to have a special session is quite low. Mary Fallin seems to be the only one chomping at the bit for more regulations. She's a political toxic dump, and her influence is quite low at this moment. Perhaps we won't have a special session after all? https://www.tulsaworld.com/homepagelatest/special-session-may-not-be-needed-for-medical-marijuana-regulations/article_ab020454-2e93-531c-a3c2-23fc02d74cee.html pw405 06-29-2018, 02:20 PM No special session for SQ788 http://www.newson6.com/story/38543195/fallin-no-special-session-for-sq-788-implementation After conferring with House and Senate leaders, we believe a special legislative session is not necessary to implement provisions of State Question 788. The Oklahoma State Department of Health has developed emergency rules that will ensure the health and safety of Oklahomans as well as being fair and balanced for the marijuana industry. The Health Department has been working with other agencies the past several months to develop a medical and proper regulatory framework to make sure marijuana use is truly for valid medical reasons. The voters have spoken, and it’s important that our state has a responsible system up and running to meet the deadlines outlined in State Question 788. If circumstances develop that adjustments to the Health Department rules are necessary, those can be addressed when lawmakers return in regular session early next year. LocoAko 06-29-2018, 02:32 PM Well I'll be damned. I'm pretty shocked but pleasantly surprised. Perhaps the turnout and rejection of so many incumbents this primary sent the legislature/governor a message. (Or they just really, really don't want a third special session lol). d-usa 06-29-2018, 03:19 PM http://okcfox.com/news/local/30-million-health-department-didnt-need-will-go-to-pot BLJR 06-29-2018, 03:42 PM I found something that we all should be able to agree upon.... 14722 jerrywall 06-29-2018, 05:00 PM I guess the "toxic dump" really wasn't chomping on the bit. Smh. jccouger 06-29-2018, 05:12 PM Lol @ bouldersooner and everybody else who thought the vote would be close, and even if Yes passed then it would be at least a year before it was put in to play. Props to the oklahoma department of health for being all over this for months preparing a framework for implementation. Thats what I call putting our tax dollars to good use! OKCRT 06-29-2018, 05:45 PM Lol @ bouldersooner and everybody else who thought the vote would be close, and even if Yes passed then it would be at least a year before it was put in to play. Props to the oklahoma department of health for being all over this for months preparing a framework for implementation. Thats what I call putting our tax dollars to good use! It seems like they are following the will of the people for once. pw405 06-29-2018, 06:01 PM I guess the "toxic dump" really wasn't chomping on the bit. Smh. I spoke with my OK House rep on Wednesday, his take was that special session was pretty much a done deal. On Thursday, reports surfaced that it was "far from a sure thing", some reasons being that Mary has to call formally call the special session, and she has little political capital at the moment. She even stated a special session would be needed before the vote. This midterm obviously shook things up a bit and I'd venture to guess many of our legislators are reevaluating their seat's security after seeing the election outcomes on Tuesday. I referred to her as toxic dump politically because she's obviously been the target of MUCH disgust with Oklahomans (warranted or not) and how our state is shaping up. Unlike many, I actually don't blame Mary for everything that has transpired over the last 5 years. With the rules in the OK House for raising taxes, she wasn't really able to do much with the quagmire of the past few years, and I honestly think she got a little more criticism than she deserved. I've got an autographed picture of Mary and myself if that makes me seem less insane. Regardless, she was recently ranked as having one of the worst approval ratings among governers: https://www.tulsaworld.com/photovideo/slideshows/where-does-mary-fallin-rank-among-least-popular-governors/collection_77b834ba-3e68-11e8-b8b3-7fa7e32c7441.html#9 As such, I feel that politically, legislators are trying to distance themselves from her and what little influence she has left. In all honestly I'm shocked about how quickly everything has transpired this week. Hell, I figured they'd be fighting this thing tooth and nail until regular session came around again. Here's to the people's will! ultimatesooner 06-29-2018, 06:50 PM I spoke with my OK House rep on Wednesday, his take was that special session was pretty much a done deal. On Thursday, reports surfaced that it was "far from a sure thing", some reasons being that Mary has to call formally call the special session, and she has little political capital at the moment. She even stated a special session would be needed before the vote. This midterm obviously shook things up a bit and I'd venture to guess many of our legislators are reevaluating their seat's security after seeing the election outcomes on Tuesday. I referred to her as toxic dump politically because she's obviously been the target of MUCH disgust with Oklahomans (warranted or not) and how our state is shaping up. Unlike many, I actually don't blame Mary for everything that has transpired over the last 5 years. With the rules in the OK House for raising taxes, she wasn't really able to do much with the quagmire of the past few years, and I honestly think she got a little more criticism than she deserved. I've got an autographed picture of Mary and myself if that makes me seem less insane. Regardless, she was recently ranked as having one of the worst approval ratings among governers: https://www.tulsaworld.com/photovideo/slideshows/where-does-mary-fallin-rank-among-least-popular-governors/collection_77b834ba-3e68-11e8-b8b3-7fa7e32c7441.html#9 As such, I feel that politically, legislators are trying to distance themselves from her and what little influence she has left. In all honestly I'm shocked about how quickly everything has transpired this week. Hell, I figured they'd be fighting this thing tooth and nail until regular session came around again. Here's to the people's will! no offense but that actually makes you seem more insane lol pw405 06-29-2018, 06:57 PM no offense but that actually makes you seem more insane lol Hahha... well, in my defense it was a loooooong time ago. Is there an insanity buffer for 10+ years? chuck5815 06-30-2018, 07:54 AM Hahha... well, in my defense it was a loooooong time ago. Is there an insanity buffer for 10+ years? i don’t think so. People generally become more insane as they age. :) gopokes88 06-30-2018, 10:27 AM Fallin is weak. That’s truly her biggest issue. Really surprised no special session. OKCRT 06-30-2018, 12:58 PM Fallin is weak. That’s truly her biggest issue. Really surprised no special session. Why would there need to be a special session when the health department has been researching this for months and has 29 other States Regs to study? Are the people in OK that much different than other people from around the country? Just wondering what good a special session would do? I mean it's pretty clear what the Voters voted for and the health Department is much more qualified to regulate this IMO. turnpup 06-30-2018, 02:29 PM In case anyone is interested, here are the preliminary rules/regs from the OSDH. 61 pages of "light" reading. http://omma.ok.gov/Websites/ddeer/images/REVISED.MMR.WorkingDraft.JE06262018.pdf Bunty 07-01-2018, 06:09 PM To update the latest signature count in the office of Green the Vote on their two cannabis petitions as of July 1 : Recreational: 64,637 Medical: 58,942 Minimum needed on both petitions: just under 124,000. After considering what signatures are still out there waiting to be mailed in, they hope they are on track to meet deadline date, especially for the rec one, which is Aug. 8. In order to hire signature takers, Green the vote is asking for donations from people who are interested in getting in the marijuana business. d-usa 07-01-2018, 10:10 PM This might be buried in the regulations somewhere, but how does this affect paraphernalia? I drove past Ziggys today, and together with the recent case from Norman it got me thinking about the laws against “drug paraphanelia”. Medical weed may be legal, but are the laws against paraphernalia still on the books? If so, I would assume that a reasonable approach would be something like “if you got a license, there will be no charge, if you don’t you will be charged even if there is no weed on you”. But I could see some rural and/or anti-weed law enforcement agencies use paraphernalia charges to get around the spirit of SQ 788. Uptowner 07-03-2018, 01:51 AM This might be buried in the regulations somewhere, but how does this affect paraphernalia? I drove past Ziggys today, and together with the recent case from Norman it got me thinking about the laws against “drug paraphanelia”. Medical weed may be legal, but are the laws against paraphernalia still on the books? If so, I would assume that a reasonable approach would be something like “if you got a license, there will be no charge, if you don’t you will be charged even if there is no weed on you”. But I could see some rural and/or anti-weed law enforcement agencies use paraphernalia charges to get around the spirit of SQ 788. If we’re talking medical use than a rolling paper or even a 6’ water bong would be medical apparatus no different then a diabetic using hypodermics that could also be misused as “paraphernalia” to administer heroin or opioids. Edit: or at least that’s what I’d argue to the courts ;) tyeomans 07-03-2018, 08:35 AM To update the latest signature count in the office of Green the Vote on their two cannabis petitions as of July 1 : Recreational: 64,637 Medical: 58,942 Minimum needed on both petitions: just under 124,000. After considering what signatures are still out there waiting to be mailed in, they hope they are on track to meet deadline date, especially for the rec one, which is Aug. 8. In order to hire signature takers, Green the vote is asking for donations from people who are interested in getting in the marijuana business. Where or how do we sign the petition? pw405 07-03-2018, 06:08 PM Where or how do we sign the petition? They have TONS of locations all over the state! https://gtvok.com/locations Be sure to tell your friends! bchris02 07-03-2018, 06:12 PM I wonder how far we are from full legalization nationwide (or close to it, there probably will be a few states that lag behind)? Bunty 07-03-2018, 09:53 PM I wonder how far we are from full legalization nationwide (or close to it, there probably will be a few states that lag behind)? If legislators in DC who have been holding up legalization get voted out, it should come next year. Rep. Pete Sessions of Texas, is one of them that need voted out. bluedogok 07-04-2018, 04:05 PM I vote at a tiiiiny church in crown heights. My wife for some reason votes at another much larger polling place. I have no complaints, for the past 6 years I just stroll in and there’s no lines, I usually see a city commissioner or board member I recognize. Needless to say the demo is old, rich, white, so maybe the SQ saw higher than expected turnout today. When I lived in the OKC area i remained registered at my parents house instead of changing it every time that I moved. When I would go to the polling place (Knights of Pythias and later Meridian Ave. Baptist Church) it would be like going back and visiting the neighbors. I never had to show I'D, most of them had known since I was a child. Yes, this is an issue which crosses party lines more than most. Of course Republicans who base much of their political belief on their Evangelical faith and also strict law and order types would likely be opposed, but a lot of Republicans are still cut more from libertarian (small "L") cloth and those people would be generally favorable I would think. I am a Libertarian leaning Republican, medical was already in effect when we moved to Colorado but we both voted in favor of recreational when the petition vote happened here. That actually exactly confirms my theory, at least in that house. Why bother to vote yes for medical - or go through the rigmarole to get a card - when you can just drive across county lines and freely buy recreational weed? I'll bet a TON of yes votes stayed home there. Here in Colorado the taxes for recreational are much higher than for medical. That actually exactly confirms my theory, at least in that house. Why bother to vote yes for medical - or go through the rigmarole to get a card - when you can just drive across county lines and freely buy recreational weed? I'll bet a TON of yes votes stayed home there. This has been a discussion on some gun pages, no one to my knowledge has been charged or prosecuted here for that. gopokes88 07-09-2018, 12:58 PM Rules are out http://omma.ok.gov/ bchris02 07-10-2018, 12:06 PM https://kfor.com/2018/07/10/doctors-pharmacists-propose-ban-on-smoking-medical-marijuana/ The key line is "Hausheer says she’s convinced Oklahoma voters didn’t fully realize the implications of State Question 788, which passed June 26 with nearly 57 percent of the vote." It just went from one of the most lax MMJ laws in the nation to the most stringent. Typical Oklahoma. Bunty 07-10-2018, 12:14 PM https://kfor.com/2018/07/10/doctors-pharmacists-propose-ban-on-smoking-medical-marijuana/ The key line is "Hausheer says she’s convinced Oklahoma voters didn’t fully realize the implications of State Question 788, which passed June 26 with nearly 57 percent of the vote." It just went from one of the most lax MMJ laws in the nation to the most stringent. Typical Oklahoma. I'll have to read SQ796 to see if it allows for medical joints. Or maybe SQ788 allows for it. But wouldn't matter much since SQ788 isn't for the state constitution. tyeomans 07-10-2018, 12:15 PM https://kfor.com/2018/07/10/doctors-pharmacists-propose-ban-on-smoking-medical-marijuana/ The key line is "Hausheer says she’s convinced Oklahoma voters didn’t fully realize the implications of State Question 788, which passed June 26 with nearly 57 percent of the vote." It just went from one of the most lax MMJ laws in the nation to the most stringent. Typical Oklahoma. I swear if the Board is to follow up with these remarks and agree with them, I'm moving out of this state! I'm way too liberal to be living in such a conservative state! I belong out West!!!! bchris02 07-10-2018, 12:24 PM They did it. Not that anything else was expected. This is the Bible Belt. https://newsok.com/article/5600886/dispensaries-must-hire-pharmacists |