Ah, I just called a friend. I guess there are two ballots and some places may not give out the second one (either intentionally or not). Definitely call in and report if this happens to you.

You are supposed to be handed 2 ballots. 788 is on the ballot with the District Judge vote.

Hah. I was replying at the same time as you. See above.

The parties have the means to run private elections. There is no reason to make taxpayers fund their intro-party search for candidates. Make them open or pay your share.

Again, the counties and state pay for the primaries to ensure all the party members get access. I guess we can screw the poor folks who couldnt attend a convention?

Ah, I just called a friend. I guess there are two ballots and some places may not give out the second one (either intentionally or not). Definitely call in and report if this happens to you.
Well, that's horse**** and shouldn't happen.

That's absurd. Why should you be allowed to pick a party's candidate if you're not a member of the party? Do you not know how parties work? You do get to vote for or against their candidate in the general election but the primary is for the members of the party to pick their representative they want to back and fund. This is like being upset that you can't vote for the mayor of Norman while living in Edmond, or not being able to vote for the president of the local Lions club while not being a member.

23 states currently offer some form of Open Primary... some in totality and just do a run off of two candidates who receive most votes. in Oklahoma, an independent is supposed to be able to vote in democrat primary... or at least you could in 2015 and 2016

23 states currently offer some form of Open Primary... some in totality and just do a run off of two candidates who receive most votes. in Oklahoma, an independent is supposed to be able to vote in democrat primary... or at least you could in 2015 and 2016

In Oklahoma, it's left up to the discretion of the party. The Oklahoma Democratic Party elected to allow independent voters to vote in their primaries, but the OKGOP has not allowed this.

Again, the counties and state pay for the primaries to ensure all the party members get access. I guess we can screw the poor folks who couldnt attend a convention?

Why is the state responsible for the private election of any private organization?

The parties can pay their share of the election if they want them to administer them.

Ah, I just called a friend. I guess there are two ballots and some places may not give out the second one (either intentionally or not). Definitely call in and report if this happens to you.

Lots of reports of this happening on Twitter, as well as people electioneering against 788 at the polls (which is illegal). Ugh. And I know for a fact this can happen, because in 2016 they failed to hand me the SQ ballot and I had to go back up to them and ask for it.

Lots of reports of this happening on Twitter, as well as people electioneering against 788 at the polls (which is illegal). Ugh. And I know for a fact this can happen, because in 2016 they failed to hand me the SQ ballot and I had to go back up to them and ask for it.

I voted early in Cleveland County at the Moore Tech Center and had to ask for the SQ788 ballot because they didn't give it to me. They looked at me like oh, yeah hold on we forgot. Right after that someone got up and went to talk to that guy. I asked my friend who went with me and he told me he overheard them saying not to forget or it could look like they were tampering with the results. Pretty shady but I blew it off cause it was an old man. Hopefully it was just forgetfulness.

I voted early in Cleveland County at the Moore Tech Center and had to ask for the SQ788 ballot because they didn't give it to me. They looked at me like oh, yeah hold on we forgot. Right after that someone got up and went to talk to that guy. I asked my friend who went with me and he told me he overheard them saying not to forget or it could look like they were tampering with the results. Pretty shady but I blew it off cause it was an old man. Hopefully it was just forgetfulness.

guess I was lucky in going to the Cleveland county election board office on Saturday. downstairs when we were filling out the in-person absentee paperwork, they were telling everyone to make sure they got two ballots when they went upstairs. And I had no issues.

Why is the state responsible for the private election of any private organization?

The parties can pay their share of the election if they want them to administer them.

I could see making that argument. However, the state does it to ensure as much access as possible for the voters. Same reason people without kids still pay taxes for schools. Or those of us who don't need state services pay in as well. It's part of the social contract our society provides.

But yeah, I'd sure love to pick the opposition's candidate.

Well, that's horse**** and shouldn't happen.

I agree it shouldn't. Ideally it should be a single ballot. I'm gonna give the volunteers working the benefit of the doubt and assume it's a mistake, and not intentional. It's not like they get tons of training and most of them skew on the older side.

I agree it shouldn't. Ideally it should be a single ballot. I'm gonna give the volunteers working the benefit of the doubt and assume it's a mistake, and not intentional. It's not like they get tons of training and most of them skew on the older side.

Agree. Plus, if it were done on purpose, it would also be keeping the "no" voters from having their say.

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I could see making that argument. However, the state does it to ensure as much access as possible for the voters. Same reason people without kids still pay taxes for schools. Or those of us who don't need state services pay in as well. It's part of the social contract our society provides.

But yeah, I'd sure love to pick the opposition's candidate.

Yeah, I know it’s one of those arguments that isn’t gonna go anywhere in real life. It’s just a pet peeve of mine. I would rather just get rid of primaries and do instant runoff voting.

Well, that's horse**** and shouldn't happen.

Corrupt Ok at it's best.

Hopefully it's a mistake at one polling place. If not it is prob organized. There are certain polling places that are expected to have a very high Yes vote turnout.

That's absurd. Why should you be allowed to pick a party's candidate if you're not a member of the party? Do you not know how parties work? You do get to vote for or against their candidate in the general election but the primary is for the members of the party to pick their representative they want to back and fund. This is like being upset that you can't vote for the mayor of Norman while living in Edmond, or not being able to vote for the president of the local Lions club while not being a member.


Sure it is. Then why can an Indy vote Dem but not Republican? As an Independent I should be able to vote for anyone I choose to.

Just voted. How my place was organized I got the party ballot after signing in. I then had to go get the ballot from the person at the end of the table. Not sure if it is the process everywhere but I could see people getting confused, especially first time voters.

Sure it is. Then why can an Indy vote Dem but not Republican? As an Independent I should be able to vote for anyone I choose to.

You can. In the general election.

Sure it is. Then why can an Indy vote Dem but not Republican? As an Independent I should be able to vote for anyone I choose to.

You couldn’t until very recently. But you can because those in that party decided it would be good for their party to let you

Most of these assumptions that second ballot is not being distributed seem to be based on social media reports, which - unless you personally know and trust the person saying it, and unless they are relaying their own experience - should be treated as rumor not fact. The FACT of the matter is that there will be election results tallied by precinct. If there are significantly more party primary ballots than SQ ballots received at any given precinct it will be immediately apparent, and these records are public.

Corrupt Ok at it's best.

Hopefully it's a mistake at one polling place. If not it is prob organized. There are certain polling places that are expected to have a very high Yes vote turnout.
Unfortunately, this appears to be the case as there are numerous reports of it happening. Jerry's situation doesn't necessarily sound nefarious, but that's confusing as hell. When I voted this morning, I was handed both ballots after signing in.

I voted around 10:30am and after being handed my primary ballot, I was asked if I also wanted the SQ ballot. I also overheard the volunteers saying they would need to call for more ballots since they had already gone through the 200 out of 300 they had received. A higher turnout than expected.

I voted around 10:30am and after being handed my primary ballot, I was asked if I also wanted the SQ ballot. I also overheard the volunteers saying they would need to call for more ballots since they had already gone through the 200 out of 300 they had received. A higher turnout than expected.

How do you run low on ballots at 10:30 in the morning??

And if they were indeed asking people if they 'wanted' the SQ ballot, that's a big problem right there. Has this ever happened in the past with any other type of election?

How do you run low on ballots at 10:30 in the morning??

And if they were indeed asking people if they 'wanted' the SQ ballot, that's a big problem right there. Has this ever happened in the past with any other type of election?

I've never noticed this happening in the past, but in all honesty, I can't remember the last time a SQ was on a primary election, so they're normally one ballot.

How do you run low on ballots at 10:30 in the morning??

And if they were indeed asking people if they 'wanted' the SQ ballot, that's a big problem right there. Has this ever happened in the past with any other type of election?

I vote at a tiiiiny church in crown heights. My wife for some reason votes at another much larger polling place. I have no complaints, for the past 6 years I just stroll in and there’s no lines, I usually see a city commissioner or board member I recognize. Needless to say the demo is old, rich, white, so maybe the SQ saw higher than expected turnout today.

My guess is this passes.

You gotta worry though, every vote not casted in a metro area is a win for rural counties.

This thread was created in 2012 almost to the day. Amazing that tonight it will finally be "time".

You can. In the general election.

Pretty sure I was able to vote in the Primary in the past. I don't remember this being an issue before today.

Pretty sure I was able to vote in the Primary in the past. I don't remember this being an issue before today.

Nope, not in Oklahoma, except in the Dem side the last couple of years. And you can still vote today. Just not in the GOP primaries.

Unfortunately, this appears to be the case as there are numerous reports of it happening. Jerry's situation doesn't necessarily sound nefarious, but that's confusing as hell. When I voted this morning, I was handed both ballots after signing in.

I was also handed both ballots after signing in. No confusion at my place.

Our polling place, St. Luke's Methodist Church, handed out both governor and SQ/judge ballots. Right in front of me was a lady who got really upset that she couldn't circle the "yes" and then write "YES!" onto the SQ ballot. It was only when the poll worker told her that not filling in the box per the instructions would result in her vote being invalidated did she relent and go back to do it properly.

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Procedure for broken machines? Open them up and chuck a ballot in?

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Procedure for broken machines? Open them up and chuck a ballot in?

Nope, that's not at all what the procedure is. Not sure what it actually is, but that most likely ain't it (I would assume it would be to collect the ballots and count them later when it's fixed or somewhere else if it can't be fixed, and that may actually be what they're doing, but I doubt they'd let a voter do it themselves). Was that pic taken at an OK polling place today? If so, you should forward that to the OK Election Board and give them the details if you know them.

A friend encountered it in a ballot place in Norman (I think). He did forward a complaint to the Election Board.

Tiny sample of precincts reporting and YES is up 10% so far. Fingers crossed...

Yes, Vox.com showing 7% of precincts in and 55/45 yes.

Also, Mick is getting about 30% of the vote with Lamb and Stitt neck-and-neck at 24%

Now 13% in and still holding at 55/45.

Looks like this will easily pass.

and then there's this.

http://www.news9.com/story/38512104/sq-788-advocacy-group-claims-ballots-being-withheld

Not gonna count the chickens just yet. Nothing would surprise me

Seems to be staying fairly steady in the 55/45 range....per ok.gov:

910 of 1951 Precincts Reporting (46.6%)
Yes Votes: 187,778 (55.26%)
No Votes: 152,046 (44.74%)

Feeling pretty good with 47% of the precincts in and a 9 point margin.

I thought it would pass by a wider margin, but still looks like smooth sailing.

Went to my polling station and magically my name, the name of the guy in front of me and the name of another guy further up the line were not in the eligible voter books.

Then the lady volunteering at the check-in says this has been happening all day - names unexplainably not in the books.

I was told I could fill out a provisional ballot, but that "it might not count" anyway. I was literally the last person in line at my polling location.

I called the Oklahoma County Election Board and they looked me up and said they couldn't explain why I wasn't in the book.

* In hindsight I should have filled out the provisional ballot. But, after hearing some polling stations were withholding ballots with SQ788 on them, I lost all confidence in our system and left.

I thought it would pass by a wider margin, but still looks like smooth sailing.

I'm sure the numbers are much higher in OK and Tulsa Counties.

Curious if many of those precincts have been counted yet.

I'm sure the numbers are much higher in OK and Tulsa Counties.

Curious if many of those precincts have been counted yet.

That would make sense but it will be interesting to see the breakdown of the results. It looks like Oklahoma will be the 30th state to legalize MM.

Looks like we may be able to call it now? 64% of Precincts reporting.

1258 of 1951 Precincts Reporting
Yes Votes: 266,732 (55.58%)
No Votes: 213,158 (44.42%)

Crazy turnout (number of votes) for a primary for sure.

I'm sure the numbers are much higher in OK and Tulsa Counties.

Curious if many of those precincts have been counted yet.

Yeah it would be nice if there was any kind of in depth analysis going on. I figured at least one news station would be airing results other than a bottom line ticker.

I thought it would pass by a wider margin, but still looks like smooth sailing.

Margin getting bigger every time I see it. I'm proud of my fellow Oklahoman's tonight!

Is there a resource to show county-by-county results? I'm curious how each county voted on this.

Wow, even with Pettis in very serious legal trouble, he's still getting 20% of the vote for County Commissioner and may force a run-off between the two candidates above him.

Also, looks like Mick is going to hang on but the real battle is right below between Lamb and Stitt.

Is there a resource to show county-by-county results? I'm curious how each county voted on this.

https://www.ok.gov/elections/support/ok_results_cnty_nav.html

Associated press is calling it a victory for 788! History has been made in Oklahoma!

Landslide victories for SQ788 in Oklahoma and Tulsa counties:
OKLAHOMA

STATE QUESTION NO. 788 INITIATIVE PETITION NO. 412
226 of 257 Precincts Completely Reporting
FOR THE PROPOSAL - YES 64.08%
AGAINST THE PROPOSAL - NO 35.92%

TULSA
STATE QUESTION NO. 788 INITIATIVE PETITION NO. 412
194 of 262 Precincts Completely Reporting
FOR THE PROPOSAL - YES 63.62%
AGAINST THE PROPOSAL - NO 36.38%

Hopefully the Legislature's feet will be held to the fire and get this done in 30 days like the question is written. Or maybe they will just say that people didn't really know what they were doing again.

My guess is this passes.


called my shot.
I am for total legalization... if people from texas want to come up and buy pot and OK gets the tax money, i am fine with that

Hopefully the Legislature's feet will be held to the fire and get this done in 30 days like the question is written. Or maybe they will just say that people didn't really know what they were doing again.

About 0% chance this will start in 30 days. If the over under is 300 days the smart money should take the over

And... Sen. Yen has lost his primary against Joe Howell in an upset. Looks like speaking out against 788 cost him his seat.

And... Sen. Yen has lost his primary against Joe Howell in an upset. Looks like speaking out against 788 cost him his seat.

2nd best news of the night. Big Pharma going to lose one.