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bchris02 06-14-2018, 09:57 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGxhk3jFWo0 pw405 06-14-2018, 10:01 PM In 1959, it was mostly restricted to newspapers and local TV received over rabbit ears. There was no Internet or cable. I do wonder how the ads looked though, that is a good question. Even though prohibition was repealed, the system put in place was one of the strictest in the nation. This coming October, Oklahoma will finally have what most states have had for many decades when it comes to alcohol. Times are changing. Knowledge and information is spreading faster than ever before. It seems that a critical mass of Okies is finally using the internet to transform the political landscape of the state & city. Friendly reminder to get out and sign the full recreational petition for SQ 796 and 797. A map of the locations one can sign the petition is listed here: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1xwiHzP3Lt_Zs2KqyXp49X__fZmu7zKGE&ll=35.52628676010898%2C-97.34052666289062&z=9 Also, make sure the young people you know are all registered!!! They've missed the deadline to vote on 788, however there's still plenty of time to register and sign the petition for full recreational! Lol... it would be hilarious if 788 fails and then somehow the recreational vote passes and we become the first state to legalize recreational without legalizing medical. I know, a long shot... but still. One can hope, right? One can get involved and make a difference. If one is involved enough, and makes enough of a difference, one will no longer need to rely on hope. mugofbeer 06-14-2018, 11:00 PM You're so wrong. Really it is for medical marijuana, not recreational marijuana. As a matter of FACT, I don't know of any rec law that first requires a doctor's approval or anybody's. Just be 21. It is past time Oklahoma ignore the naysayers and start taking care of its own. No more medical marijuana refugees! For where this is coming from, Oklahomans for Health is a fully Oklahoma grown straight from the heart grass roots movement organized to legalize medical marijuana. During the first quarter of 2016, public meetings were held in Oklahoma City, Tulsa, Stillwater and Norman to finalize the wording in the petition. You can think they didn't do a very good job, if you want. At the Oklahoma City meeting Green the Vote, originators of the failed 2015 med mj petition, decided it didn't like the direction Oklahomans For Health was taking and parted company. Their new petition would not include legal hemp growing and was for the statutes, rather than for the state constitution. At the Tulsa meeting, it was revealed that the request made to the Marijuana Policy Project for money was denied. The petition drive started in May 2016. Oklahomans gave around $35,000 to fund it. Seldom if ever was an Oklahoma petition successful with so little money. The key to success was going with the type of petition that was for a statute change rather than constitutional one. Such petitions require considerably fewer signatures. For the 2018 campaign, a group from Oklahomans For Health split to form the Vote Yes on 788 PAC. Meet the board at the bottom of this page: https://yeson788.com/about-us The chairman, Frank Grove, is primarily doing it because his father has a brain tumor. Another organization in the campaign is New Health Solutions Oklahoma. It's a new trade organization formed in Oklahoma that wants to lobby to get the legal marijuana industry started in Oklahoma. The head, OKC attorney Bud Scott, has been doing a good job pushing at some of the forums. He will tell you that in other states, it's typical for legal medical marijuana to have started out with as little more than a few pages in a petition and after voter approval as much as hundreds of pages of regulations were made to address and clarify issues. Oklahoma HB3468 represents a good start to it. Passed by the House but ignored by the Senate. Since SQ788 is for state statutes, rather than for the state constitution, it shouldn't be too difficult, for legislators to change or add to it, but hopefully not gut it, to address concerns you raised. Legislators can so much as throw the whole thing out, if they so dare to go against the will of the majority who passed it. One individual in it is Norma Sapp, who has been an activist for Oklahoma marijuana and hemp law reform for the past 29 years. With Scott, she was on the yes side at the forum in Edmond. So once again, this is a genuine straight from the heart Oklahoma originated grass roots movement. Oklahoma farmers have donated. Little, if any outside money or groups are helping it. Far from million$ to follow, so far. Don't let Sen. Lankford lie to you about that. It will be interesting to see the final financial disclosures. I'll admit this medical marijuana movement seems a little silly. But like it or not, it has become an American custom that you first have to legalize medical marijuana before you can legalize rec marijuana state by state. It results from the Feds largely being totally death to concerned citizens. They doctors and scientists. So when you think something right has to me done and an oppressive government wants nothing to do with it, you sometimes have to devise a means to go around government. What we are voting on, as written, will not be anywhere close to the whole of the legal framework surrounding MMJ. Why do so many people think that this stub of a state question will be all that will be put in place if we vote on it? Special session will most likely be called, and reams of statutes, laws, rules, etc. will get implemented. You're correct because, if passed, the legislature will spend years tying up the loopholes as poorly as this is written The proposal legalizes MM. It doesn't allow for a 1 year delay to write a better law. If people want to legalize pot, then copy the CO law that is already there and has closed the loopholes. BoulderSooner 06-15-2018, 08:26 AM You're correct because, if passed, the legislature will spend years tying up the loopholes as poorly as this is written The proposal legalizes MM. It doesn't allow for a 1 year delay to write a better law. If people want to legalize pot, then copy the CO law that is already there and has closed the loopholes. There will be over a year delay if we pass this on the 26th Bunty 06-15-2018, 09:24 AM The hypocrisy from the Feds toward medical marijuana can reach stunning proportions. From a federal court ruling made decades ago, this gentleman gets FREE every month a can full of joints to smoke to treat his serious illness. It comes from the Fed's pot farm in Mississippi. Is this fair to sick Oklahomans who could benefit from medical marijuana? NO! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xqk_DkO6RI LocoAko 06-15-2018, 09:30 AM This kind of stuff is why I think full (recreational) marijuana legalization in Oklahoma is a pipe dream for the foreseeable future. Marijuana will be like tattoos, the lottery, casinos, and liquor. Oklahoma will still be fighting this battle decades after the rest of the nation has moved on. Hopefully a majority of the state doesn't buy the fearmongering propaganda but I'm not super hopeful. 788 needs to pass with above 60% in favor to give it more political clout. If it barely passes, the legislature may be more likely to completely gut it. Only 29 states +DC even have medicinal cannabis. I know you want to insist we're going to be the last state to inevitably do everything, but this bill is fairly progressive (even if everyone knows it will be gutted) and yet it is still expected to pass. That said, it is absolutely comical how biased and anti-788 the Oklahoman has shown themselves to be (not remotely surprised). The tone here is... not subtle. https://newsok.com/article/5597023/state-question-788-a-roundup-of-all-the-stories-about-the-vote-on-medical-marijuana? And yet, despite this propaganda.... 14687 Bunty 06-15-2018, 10:43 AM What does Consumers Union, publisher of Consumer Reports say about marijuana? This: (1) Consumers Union recommends the immediate repeal of all federal laws governing the growing, processing, transportation, sale, possession, and use of marijuana. (2) Consumers Union recommends that each of the fifty states similarly repeal its existing marijuana laws and pass new laws legalizing the cultivation, processing, and orderly marketing of marijuana–– subject to appropriate regulations. Excerpted from: http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Library/studies/cu/cu69.html Made in 1972, Consumers Union still stands by these recommendations. jccouger 06-15-2018, 02:14 PM The public support is overwhelming for 788. Any and every public poll on Facebook or web pages is in runaway support of 788. I honestly believe the last gasp push against 788 will in fact bring even more supporters out to vote FOR 788 come voting day. Without the opposition I think a lot of people would have stayed home, but just the threat that people will vote against it will turn even more people up to cast their vote yes. I fully expect 788 to pass with 70+ % of the vote. BoulderSooner 06-15-2018, 02:47 PM The public support is overwhelming for 788. Any and every public poll on Facebook or web pages is in runaway support of 788. I honestly believe the last gasp push against 788 will in fact bring even more supporters out to vote FOR 788 come voting day. Without the opposition I think a lot of people would have stayed home, but just the threat that people will vote against it will turn even more people up to cast their vote yes. I fully expect 788 to pass with 70+ % of the vote. we will see i bet the vote is very close bchris02 06-15-2018, 02:59 PM we will see i bet the vote is very close I don't know. I don't see a lot of energy on the "no" side. Then again, pretty much all of my social circle is in favor of it. My guess is it will be about 60-40 in favor. I could be wrong, but that's my guess. If it's too close, that gives the legislature more justification to gut it or repeal it entirely. OKCRT 06-15-2018, 06:02 PM we will see i bet the vote is very close I think the scare tactics they are spewing will actually work against them. Most level headed people living today know that MJ is not the scary drug it was portrayed to be by the anti MJ folks years ago and even still today. People can read and hear about how this wonderful natural plant is helping so many people and see that it makes O sense to keep it banned. bchris02 06-15-2018, 07:59 PM I think the scare tactics they are spewing will actually work against them. Most level headed people living today know that MJ is not the scary drug it was portrayed to be by the anti MJ folks years ago and even still today. People can read and hear about how this wonderful natural plant is helping so many people and see that it makes O sense to keep it banned. Yeah most people have heard reefer madness propaganda their entire lives. My bet is 99% of people who would fall for it were already going to vote no. Meanwhile, it will help energize yes voters to get out and vote. BlackmoreRulz 06-15-2018, 09:02 PM This was posted on another forum I frequent about Ohio's new law Ohio’s medical marijuana law – Ohio House Bill 523 – does address employment issues that need to be studied and understood by employers and their decision-making team prior to the September roll-out of the law. Among the details, HB 523 states • Employers are not required to accommodate use, possession or distribution. • Employers can refuse to hire, discharge, discipline and take adverse employment action. • Employers can establish a drug-free workplace program (including zero tolerance). • Employers cannot be sued for adverse action taken based on medical marijuana use. • This law does not interfere with federal restrictions on employment (e.g., DOT). • Unemployment will not be paid to an employee violating an employer’s drug-free workplace or zero-tolerance policy. • This law will not interfere with Workers’ Compensation. • The Drug-Free Safety Program (DFSP) requirements remain valid. • Rebuttable presumption is still in place. • Health insurance will not cover medical marijuana. Wondered about the bolded part, if this is truly medicine why wouldn't insurance pay for it? StuckInTheCapitol825 06-15-2018, 09:52 PM Because it's an alternative to a pill. d-usa 06-15-2018, 11:12 PM Same reason they don’t pay for my Hot Toddy: it’s not an FDA approved and regulated medicine. jerrywall 06-17-2018, 11:22 AM There are THC medications that insurance will cover but since research is so restricted by law full FDA approval is limited. Laramie 06-17-2018, 01:31 PM The bootleggers of Oklahoma will rejoice if SQ 788 is defeated because they will continue with their risks because there is no regulations in place; yet they don't pay a dime of taxes on the weed they sell which could include anything from milk weed to dandelions; why mother insisted that we not eat grandma's wild greens, especially as her eye sight deteriorated. https://www.superfoodevolution.com/images/300xNxwild-edible-greens.jpg.pagespeed.ic.GO-vh93GNb.jpg http://www.luminearth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/dandelion1-210x300.jpg https://medlineplus.gov/images/Marijuana.jpg L/R - Wild Greens, Dandelions & Marijuana, don't think for one minute that crack is the only thing laced. Choose the lesser among the evils... Bunty 06-18-2018, 12:45 AM Texas Republicans just overwhelmingly voted to put support for decriminalized marijuana in their state platform, meaning $100 fine for possession of 1 ounce or less of marijuana. No jail time. So don't see why Oklahoma Republicans should be against legalized medical marijuana. If SQ788 is passed possession of up to one and one-half (1.5) ounces of marijuana by persons who can state a medical condition, but not in possession of a state issued medical marijuana license, shall constitute a misdemeanor offense with a fine not to exceed $400. https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomangell/2018/06/17/texas-republican-party-endorses-marijuana-decriminalization/#5c0bac5a5236 Or would most people voting no on SQ788 be opposed to the Texas Republican Party endorsing decriminalized marijuana? If so, would they consider that about the same as legalizing rec? bchris02 06-18-2018, 11:05 AM Texas Republicans just overwhelmingly voted to put support for decriminalized marijuana in their state platform, meaning $100 fine for possession of 1 ounce or less of marijuana. No jail time. So don't see why Oklahoma Republicans should be against legalized medical marijuana. If SQ788 is passed possession of up to one and one-half (1.5) ounces of marijuana by persons who can state a medical condition, but not in possession of a state issued medical marijuana license, shall constitute a misdemeanor offense with a fine not to exceed $400. https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomangell/2018/06/17/texas-republican-party-endorses-marijuana-decriminalization/#5c0bac5a5236 Or would most people voting no on SQ788 be opposed to the Texas Republican Party endorsing decriminalized marijuana? If so, would they consider that about the same as legalizing rec? You probably have the more hardline Baptists in both states opposing any kind of loosening of marijuana laws. The tide is turning in this issue though. I think Oklahoma is still a long ways from total legalization, but once the federal government deschedules it, especially if it happens under Trump, I think a lot of states will legalize and/or decriminalize. Bunty 06-18-2018, 11:59 AM Yes on 788's response to the falsehoods the opposition is putting out about SQ788: https://yeson788.com/concerns Bunty 06-18-2018, 12:55 PM You probably have the more hardline Baptists in both states opposing any kind of loosening of marijuana laws. The tide is turning in this issue though. I think Oklahoma is still a long ways from total legalization, but once the federal government deschedules it, especially if it happens under Trump, I think a lot of states will legalize and/or decriminalize. Some conservative Christians support legalizing marijuana--Pat Robertson: 14693 OKCRT 06-18-2018, 06:32 PM Texas Republicans just overwhelmingly voted to put support for decriminalized marijuana in their state platform, meaning $100 fine for possession of 1 ounce or less of marijuana. No jail time. So don't see why Oklahoma Republicans should be against legalized medical marijuana. If SQ788 is passed possession of up to one and one-half (1.5) ounces of marijuana by persons who can state a medical condition, but not in possession of a state issued medical marijuana license, shall constitute a misdemeanor offense with a fine not to exceed $400. https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomangell/2018/06/17/texas-republican-party-endorses-marijuana-decriminalization/#5c0bac5a5236 Or would most people voting no on SQ788 be opposed to the Texas Republican Party endorsing decriminalized marijuana? If so, would they consider that about the same as legalizing rec? Everyone in Jail or imprisoned for small amounts of MJ should be released asap. LocoAko 06-18-2018, 09:50 PM https://yeson788.com/concerns mugofbeer 06-19-2018, 12:22 AM Yes on 788's response to the falsehoods the opposition is putting out about SQ788: https://yeson788.com/concerns While most points made on the link are consistent with the way the law reads, I have to take exception with a couple of the yes folks assertions. I saw nothing in the wording of the law that allows an employer to punish or terminate an employee under the influence. Yes, Ok Is a work-at-will state but because the law does not say one way or the other, there will eventually be a test case lawsuit. One other issue is that the law allows a reasonably small quantity to be held in possession of pot, but it allows for having as much as 4 1/2 pounds of edibles. If I had 4 1\2 pounds of brownies, cookies or pasta, I'd likely be offering to share it with someone....... jccouger 06-19-2018, 08:05 AM While most points made on the link are consistent with the way the law reads, I have to take exception with a couple of the yes folks assertions. I saw nothing in the wording of the law that allows an employer to punish or terminate an employee under the influence. Yes, Ok Is a work-at-will state but because the law does not say one way or the other, there will eventually be a test case lawsuit. One other issue is that the law allows a reasonably small quantity to be held in possession of pot, but it allows for having as much as 4 1/2 pounds of edibles. If I had 4 1\2 pounds of brownies, cookies or pasta, I'd likely be offering to share it with someone....... Why should employers be able to fire employees who use medicine? Who are you to say what is a reasonable amount of medicine to have? Its not out of the ordinary for people to be prescribed multiple months worth of medication for any other health related issue. jedicurt 06-19-2018, 09:25 AM While most points made on the link are consistent with the way the law reads, I have to take exception with a couple of the yes folks assertions. I saw nothing in the wording of the law that allows an employer to punish or terminate an employee under the influence. Yes, Ok Is a work-at-will state but because the law does not say one way or the other, there will eventually be a test case lawsuit. One other issue is that the law allows a reasonably small quantity to be held in possession of pot, but it allows for having as much as 4 1/2 pounds of edibles. If I had 4 1\2 pounds of brownies, cookies or pasta, I'd likely be offering to share it with someone....... CBD is legal. but companies are still able to forbid it's use and terminate for using it if you fail a test. is there something in the currently law that specifically states this is able to be done? BoulderSooner 06-19-2018, 09:47 AM Why should employers be able to fire employees who use medicine? Who are you to say what is a reasonable amount of medicine to have? Its not out of the ordinary for people to be prescribed multiple months worth of medication for any other health related issue. When the “medicine” in question is illegal in the entire USA (regardless of state laws) they should Jersey Boss 06-19-2018, 10:33 AM When you are an employee at will, companies can terminate you for anything other than for religion, marital status, race, etc. You can be terminated for smoking cigars if the company deems it as a condition of employment. Just because it is legal does not protect you. As far as CBD, companies do not routinely test for CBD exclusive markers. THC is what they are looking for. jedicurt 06-19-2018, 10:38 AM When you are an employee at will, companies can terminate you for anything other than for religion, marital status, race, etc. You can be terminated for smoking cigars if the company deems it as a condition of employment. Just because it is legal does not protect you. As far as CBD, companies do not routinely test for CBD exclusive markers. THC is what they are looking for. yes. but haven't recently finished looking for new jobs in OKC... I can tell you that during my search... most of them mention CBD as a banned substance in their substance abuse policies. Laramie 06-19-2018, 02:52 PM https://coloradopeakpolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/cache/2014/10/i-voted-sticker/2511098141.jpg Oklahoma voter? What you need to know for Tuesday, June 26: Registration deadline: The deadline to register to vote in this election was June 1. Oklahoma County Residents Early voting times: June 21, 22: ___ 8 a.m. - 6 p.m.; June 23: 8 a.m. - 2 p.m. Oklahoma County Election Board, 4201 N Lincoln Blvd Absentee ballot request deadline: Absentee ballots must be requested by 5 p.m. on June 20 Absentee ballot return deadline: Absentee ballots must be received by 7 p.m on election day Poll times: On election day, polls are open from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. Source: Page 6: How do I vote on SQ 788? https://ballotpedia.org/Oklahoma_State_Question_788,_Medical_Marijuana_Leg alization_Initiative_(June_2018) Upcoming Elections by county: https://www.ok.gov/elections/Election_Info/Upcoming_Elections/index.html mugofbeer 06-19-2018, 04:17 PM CBD is legal. but companies are still able to forbid it's use and terminate for using it if you fail a test. is there something in the currently law that specifically states this is able to be done? First, I am no lawyer. I read the legislation and maybe I missed it but I didn't see anything one way or the other, other than employers can forbid pot use while at work. I didn't see anything about working while under the influence. Colorado law covers this so it seems if there is nothing specifically covering this matter, it will eventually have to be covered or a lawsuit will have to take place. Bunty 06-19-2018, 08:34 PM While most points made on the link are consistent with the way the law reads, I have to take exception with a couple of the yes folks assertions. I saw nothing in the wording of the law that allows an employer to punish or terminate an employee under the influence. Yes, Ok Is a work-at-will state but because the law does not say one way or the other, there will eventually be a test case lawsuit. One other issue is that the law allows a reasonably small quantity to be held in possession of pot, but it allows for having as much as 4 1/2 pounds of edibles. If I had 4 1\2 pounds of brownies, cookies or pasta, I'd likely be offering to share it with someone....... Was this part of SQ788 not specific enough for you? "Employers may take action against a holder of a medical marijuana license holder if the holder uses or possesses marijuana while in the holder's place of employment or during the hours of employment." Bunty 06-19-2018, 09:35 PM This former legislator guesses that SQ788 will barely squeak out with a win. Doctor's positive comments at bottom interesting: https://okpolicy.org/as-election-day-approaches-support-for-sq-788-may-be-narrowing-capitol-update/ Bunty 06-19-2018, 09:45 PM Meanwhile, one can wonder if this deplorable incident in Claremore will help or hurt votes for SQ788. Will some no voters feel a need to get back at cops by changing over to voting Yes? Or the other way around? https://nondoc.com/2018/06/19/sheriff-scott-walton-ejects-chip-paul-sq-788-forum/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN1WDdkEjis pw405 06-19-2018, 11:32 PM This former legislator guesses that SQ788 will barely squeak out with a win. Doctor's positive comments at bottom interesting: https://okpolicy.org/as-election-day-approaches-support-for-sq-788-may-be-narrowing-capitol-update/ Note to self. Make appointment with Jack Snedden, MD on June 27th. :cool18: Laramie 06-20-2018, 11:05 AM If you pass medical marijuana; it will put these bootleggers out-of-business who are holding their breath that this doesn't passed. State Question 788: Read the full text of Oklahoma's medical marijuana measure before Tuesday vote: http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/elections/state-question-read-the-full-text-of-oklahoma-s-medical/article_5ac3e010-701e-5ebd-bf8d-f10a46a4734d.html Encourage you to do research on your own; make a decision then vote your conscience. jedicurt 06-20-2018, 12:02 PM If you pass medical marijuana; it will put these bootleggers out-of-business who are holding their breath that this doesn't passed. State Question 788: Read the full text of Oklahoma's medical marijuana measure before Tuesday vote: http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/elections/state-question-read-the-full-text-of-oklahoma-s-medical/article_5ac3e010-701e-5ebd-bf8d-f10a46a4734d.html section 7 C, is the part that really caught my attention that I didn't know. C. If proceeds from the levy authorized by subsection A of this section exceed the budgeted amount for running the regulatory office, any surplus shall be apportioned with seventy-five percent (75%) going to the General Revenue Fund and may only be expended for common education. Twenty-five percent (25%) shall be apportioned to the Oklahoma State Department of Health and earmarked for drug and alcohol rehabilitation. Laramie 06-20-2018, 02:19 PM C. If proceeds from the levy authorized by subsection A of this section exceed the budgeted amount for running the regulatory office, any surplus shall be apportioned with seventy-five percent (75%) going to the General Revenue Fund and may only be expended for common education. Twenty-five percent (25%) shall be apportioned to the Oklahoma State Department of Health and earmarked for drug and alcohol rehabilitation. Looks as though they are prepared to capitalized on surplus proceeds. Jersey Boss 06-20-2018, 02:45 PM More about the ethically challenged County Mounty in Claremore concerning SQ 788 https://www.thelostogle.com/2018/06/20/rogers-county-sheriff-could-use-some-medical-marijuana/#more-80266 OKCRT 06-20-2018, 04:24 PM section 7 C, is the part that really caught my attention that I didn't know. Not surprised at all. I would hope that all monies collected would go to mental/drug abuse health and education. I hear that this State does a pretty poor job as far as mental health goes. Just not much help for those that need it so they just lock them up in prisons. Then build more prisons so they can grow some more. Laramie 06-20-2018, 08:36 PM Really didn't think about the cash & marijuana cow that the county sheriffs will lose if medical marijuana passes. Sheriff Walton may have to reduce staff. Looks as though he has 7 employees in a county with a population: 90,802 (2015), County seat: Claremore, Area: 711 mi. Valley Brook an incorporated city inside OKC has 9 officers, covers 173 acres with a population of 777 with 5 clubs/bars/taverns: Mad cow saloon Henry Hudson's Pub City Limits Bar Alley Pub Little Dick's Halfway Inn :D Speaking of a cash cow; Valley Brook will be challenged. tyeomans 06-20-2018, 09:07 PM My only question is this: Since there are currently no qualifying conditions, can the government hold a special session if this passes to amend that? Bunty 06-20-2018, 10:09 PM My only question is this: Since there are currently no qualifying conditions, can the government hold a special session if this passes to amend that? Yes, it can. It can also throw the whole thing out. Bunty 06-20-2018, 10:15 PM Tulsa World editorial: State Question 788 is flawed, but the medical marijuana bill still deserves voters' support. http://www.tulsaworld.com/opinion/editorials/tulsa-world-editorial-state-question-is-flawed-but-the-medical/article_c8314cad-fd27-5f84-93e1-0245cd69cae0.html SoonerDave 06-21-2018, 06:44 AM Am I correct in reading 788 to say that I, as a landlord, could not decline to lease an apartment to someone on the basis of their having a med marijuana license? Am I also reading it right that muncipalities cannot enact limiting regulations on the opening of dispensaries? LocoAko 06-21-2018, 07:38 AM My only question is this: Since there are currently no qualifying conditions, can the government hold a special session if this passes to amend that? That is exactly what they're planning to do. The Governor has said as much. OKCRT 06-21-2018, 08:37 AM Am I correct in reading 788 to say that I, as a landlord, could not decline to lease an apartment to someone on the basis of their having a med marijuana license? Am I also reading it right that muncipalities cannot enact limiting regulations on the opening of dispensaries? What is written in the question (if passed) will not be exactly what will be law. They will chop this thing up before it becomes law. There will be all kinds of regulations put on dispensaries and a lot more. It will end up being nothing close to what is in the question. LocoAko 06-21-2018, 09:17 AM Another good and informative rebuttal to many of the common misconceptions about 788 from a lawyer: https://nondoc.com/2018/06/21/lawyer-lists-top-7-common-misconceptions-about-sq-788/?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=facebook_page&utm_medium=NonDoc&utm_content=Lawyer%20lists%20top-7%20common%20misconceptions%20about%20SQ%20788 OkieNate 06-21-2018, 10:45 AM Say 788 does pass and the the governor tries to reverse or amend or repeal, (not sure what the proper verbiage is here) the peoples will. Can the people of the State of Oklahoma use any legal action against Fallin herself to prevent that? tyeomans 06-21-2018, 11:01 AM Say 788 does pass and the the governor tries to reverse or amend or repeal, (not sure what the proper verbiage is here) the peoples will. Can the people of the State of Oklahoma use any legal action against Fallin herself to prevent that? I'd really like to know how this works as well. I had always thought that if the people voted for a certain measure to pass, then that was it and nothing could be done after the fact (as in repealing it). BoulderSooner 06-21-2018, 11:28 AM We are not voting for a constitutional amendment. We are voting on a law change with pretty much no regulatory frame work and significant non medical mj rules. The legislature can vote to change modify or throw out this new law Change all together. The general consensus is that they will. Keep medical. And create a regulatory framework that makes sense for that. I have been told that with the new frame work that there will likey be a year delay before medical is legal. Likey fall 2019 CloudDeckMedia 06-21-2018, 02:17 PM What is written in the question (if passed) will not be exactly what will be law. They will chop this thing up before it becomes law. There will be all kinds of regulations put on dispensaries and a lot more. It will end up being nothing close to what is in the question. So there's no guarantee that what we're voting on is what we'll get. In fact, it's guaranteed that we WON'T get what we voted on. So why didn't the legislature write a law in the first place? tyeomans 06-21-2018, 02:48 PM So there's no guarantee that what we're voting on is what we'll get. In fact, it's guaranteed that we WON'T get what we voted on. So why didn't the legislature write a law in the first place? I'm pretty much on the same page as you. I don't get it. If they planned on repealing the whole thing, why write it up in the first place? Bunty 06-21-2018, 02:55 PM I'd really like to know how this works as well. I had always thought that if the people voted for a certain measure to pass, then that was it and nothing could be done after the fact (as in repealing it). That's only for when the people are asked to vote to put a law into the state constitution. Supposedly it's very hard to make any changes to it. If repeal of a law in the state constitution is desired, then it must go to the vote of the people. If the people vote to put a new law in the state statutes as in SQ788, then legislators have the right to change it in any way they agree to. BoulderSooner 06-21-2018, 03:02 PM So there's no guarantee that what we're voting on is what we'll get. In fact, it's guaranteed that we WON'T get what we voted on. So why didn't the legislature write a law in the first place? The legislature doesn’t want medical mj as a whole I'm pretty much on the same page as you. I don't get it. If they planned on repealing the whole thing, why write it up in the first place? The legislature didn’t write it up. A what we are voting on is not a ready for implementation law. Most don’t think it will be repealed there wil just be a good frame work for medical mj tyeomans 06-21-2018, 03:12 PM That's only for when the people are asked to vote to put a law into the state constitution. Supposedly it's very hard to make any changes to it. If repeal of a law in the state constitution is desired, then it must go to the vote of the people. If the people vote to put a new law in the state statutes as in SQ788, then legislators have the right to change it in any way they agree to. Awww... Thanks for the clarification! Guess I should have paid more attention in my politics class! Bunty 06-21-2018, 03:22 PM Lawyer lists top-7 common misconceptions about SQ 788 - https://nondoc.com/2018/06/21/lawyer-lists-top-7-common-misconceptions-about-sq-788/ BoulderSooner 06-21-2018, 03:31 PM Lawyer lists top-7 common misconceptions about SQ 788 - https://nondoc.com/2018/06/21/lawyer-lists-top-7-common-misconceptions-about-sq-788/ 1 and 2 are half truths and 5 is just our right incorrect jedicurt 06-21-2018, 03:50 PM 1 and 2 are half truths and 5 is just our right incorrect can you explain further? OKCRT 06-21-2018, 05:30 PM That's only for when the people are asked to vote to put a law into the state constitution. Supposedly it's very hard to make any changes to it. If repeal of a law in the state constitution is desired, then it must go to the vote of the people. If the people vote to put a new law in the state statutes as in SQ788, then legislators have the right to change it in any way they agree to. So we are pretty much assured that if 788 passes that they will call a special session and chop this up to meet their so called moral standards and try to save us from ourselves. There is no doubt in my mind that the Question as written will not be what becomes law when all is said and done. So what if we were voting on legalizing recreational MJ. I assume the legislature would chop it up as well but after they finished MJ would still be legal in some form. I mean if it is the will of the people to make it legal they couldn't just throw it out just because,correct? |