Time to get your yard signs out!

Time to get your yard signs out!

Are there yard signs for purchase anywhere? I would buy one!

Are there yard signs for purchase anywhere? I would buy one!

I don't know, but Edmond is having a forum on SQ788 on Tuesday. Maybe someone there will have some or know where to get them.

The pro side will be well represented. Pro side Bud Scott and August Rivera have been in a brief debate on TV before. Scott did a good job countering Rivera.

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My neighbors had them; I enquired, they provided. Perhaps someone on the 788 Facebook page could help? Also, I'll do a little checking and see if I can find a "source" to "score" some signs... :wink:

Meanwhile, Green the Vote revealed on Sunday how many signatures it has for its two petitions.

For medical marijuana: 27,000-30,000
For rec marijuana: 28,000-31,000

Figures are based on exact totals in office, plus an estimate of signatures out there but not yet in.

So they're not very far from being on track. If they are able to step up the pace some and keep it up, they can get the required 124,000 signatures for both petitions by deadline August 8.

Meanwhile, Green the Vote revealed on Sunday how many signatures it has for its two petitions.

For medical marijuana: 27,000-30,000
For rec marijuana: 28,000-31,000

Figures are based on exact totals in office, plus an estimate of signatures out there but not yet in.

So they're not very far from being on track. If they are able to step up the pace some and keep it up, they can get the required 124,000 signatures for both petitions by deadline August 8.

I haven't seen anybody out collecting signatures for recreational marijuana. Any idea where to sign?

Meanwhile, Green the Vote revealed on Sunday how many signatures it has for its two petitions.

For medical marijuana: 27,000-30,000
For rec marijuana: 28,000-31,000

Figures are based on exact totals in office, plus an estimate of signatures out there but not yet in.

So they're not very far from being on track. If they are able to step up the pace some and keep it up, they can get the required 124,000 signatures for both petitions by deadline August 8.

Oh, awesome. I've been looking for more info on these. Glad to hear they're on pace!

Here's a map of STATEWIDE locations where one can sign the petitions for SQ 796 and 797.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1xwiHzP3Lt_Zs2KqyXp49X__fZmu7zKGE&ll=35.44969112110014%2C-97.24023813034665&z=8

SHARE THE S**T OUT OF THIS!!

I haven't listened yet (will on my flight tomorrow), but this could be an interesting listen for anyone interested. https://nondoc.com/2018/06/04/bud-scott-sq-788-podcast/

Are there yard signs for purchase anywhere? I would buy one!

Yard signs available at SQ788 office in OKC at 1120 NW 51st St., Oklahoma City, open 10 to 5 M-F. Also yard signs should be available from someone at Edmond forum this evening, June 5.

Yard signs available at SQ788 office in OKC at 1120 NW 51st St., Oklahoma City, open 10 to 5 M-F. Also yard signs should be available from someone at Edmond forum this evening, June 5.

Thank you! Just went and picked mine up!

They also had them at the CBD shop I signed the petition at tonight -- Steve's CBD on May & 65th. The woman there said they just had 10,000 signs delivered and will remain in stock as long as people want 'em.

That is interesting. The CBD plus guys have been all over the radio and they sound like they oppose this.

That is interesting. The CBD plus guys have been all over the radio and they sound like they oppose this.

That's interesting. I was wondering if the CBD shops would be able to pivot to medicinal marijuana, but I'm guessing they can't. A medicinal marijuana shop might be able to also carry CBD, but not the other way around (I would imagine the CBD shop lease, etc. would preclude them from selling MM, but I really have no idea), so I could see them opposing the law for self-preservation reasons. On the other hand, if they can pivot to MM, it would explain the recent cropping up of all the CBD shops lately.

That's interesting. I was wondering if the CBD shops would be able to pivot to medicinal marijuana, but I'm guessing they can't. A medicinal marijuana shop might be able to also carry CBD, but not the other way around (I would imagine the CBD shop lease, etc. would preclude them from selling MM, but I really have no idea), so I could see them opposing the law for self-preservation reasons. On the other hand, if they can pivot to MM, it would explain the recent cropping up of all the CBD shops lately.

I haven't heard any opposition from the cbd folks that I have spoken with.

I went to a CBD shop to sign the petition.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-marijuana-20180608-story.html

Good news for legalization efforts if this happens. I predict a wave of states legalizing once the federal ban ends. Right now, the one thing standing in the way of nationwide legalization is the GOP. It will be interesting to see how Trump coming around on the issue will impact GOP policy on it. Will they follow Trump's lead and finally back off on prohibition?

I haven't heard any opposition from the cbd folks that I have spoken with.

It was a specific chain that spoke and advertises in KTOK who gave me that impression.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-marijuana-20180608-story.html

Good news for legalization efforts if this happens. I predict a wave of states legalizing once the federal ban ends. Right now, the one thing standing in the way of nationwide legalization is the GOP. It will be interesting to see how Trump coming around on the issue will impact GOP policy on it. Will they follow Trump's lead and finally back off on prohibition?

It sounds like Trump is waiting on Congress to lead. The Republicans from Red States in the House will hold it up, unless enough get voted out in November. If SQ788 passes, it will be interesting to see if any Oklahoma Republican candidates for Congress will agree with bills for drastic federal marijuana law reform.

I haven't heard any opposition from the cbd folks that I have spoken with.

Same. I signed the petitions for both SQ 796 and 797 at a CBD shop and they sounded like they were in full support and actively helping the campaign.

Words from an Oklahoma cannabis refugee now living in Colorado:

My husband and I are both disabled, medical cannabis patients and moved to Pueblo, CO from Oklahoma City in 2015. We both believed cannabis could relieve our pain and allow us to get off of the massive amounts of narcotics we were on when we lived in OKC.

How many narcotics? Well, we both saw the doctor monthly, and were both on similar amounts. We each had 2 prescriptions for narcotics by patch, and a prescription for a narcotic pain pill, all for daily use. All of the narcotics were morphine based, meaning high potency opioids.

Today, we are both using cannabis as our pain medication and only use narcotics for the worst 3 months of winter. We haven't used any patches at all in over 2 years. Cold weather makes our pain level spiral higher and adding a low level narcotic in those 3 months of winter for break through pain helps with the excessive pain caused by the weather changes.

With all of the discussion about what is and isn't in your State Question, I want to stress this about my experience and what I have seen in practice in Colorado.

Make certain you understand that passing the state question is not going to be the end of your fight. Once the state question passes you then need to provide support and assistance to those who will be the patients in need of cannabis to give them back part of their lives.

The fight will be between you and the legislature to provide the details of who will be allowed be given a card for cannabis. You will also have to fight for who will make money from cannabis and, if any of that money goes in to state coffers, where will it go from there.

EVERYTHING that is not spelled out in the state question will be answered by your legislature. You will need to have 'contact campaigns' and rallies every single time they want to limit and change what has been approved by the people who voted for the state question.

You will have to get every lawmaker to see that every limit they place on the issue of medical cannabis will exclude a group of patients who need the option of using Medical Cannabis. They will not have the option of recreational marijuana to skirt the edge of the law like I have seen patients use here.

Another point to leave you with. There are those of us who are Cannabis Refugees who will not be returning to Oklahoma to live, under any circumstances. I'm sure some of them will return, and I have no problem with that. Don't get me wrong, I love Oklahoma and it's people. At this time in my life, I don't trust Oklahoma lawmakers and the only thing I've ever trusted about Oklahoma's weather is it's ability to turn on everyone at the drop of a hat.

serious ? what does medical passing help with that CBD doesn't ?

serious ? what does medical passing help with that CBD doesn't ?

Big difference from what a worker at the cbd store told me. The stuff they are selling now has most of the other ingredients that actually help with pain ect. taken out. The cbd stuff you can buy today in OK is pretty much snake oil IMO. It has been stripped of the ingredients that actually help. I'm by no means any kind of expert on this stuff and just passing on what I was told.

FWIW. CBD oil has helped my dogs anxiety and his joints. It also helps with the nausea from my epilepsy medication. Obviously, ymmv.

IIRC CBD alone may help with certain ailments but the combination of CBD + THC has enhanced medical efficacy for some applications.

Soo, I’m going to testify just from experience. Medical MJ is real. I was recently in Las Vegas, where you don’t need a prescription as it’s a “recreational” area. But the dispensaries are focused on “what do you need this for?” And never, “broh, how high can you fly?”

After three knee surgeries from a ligament reconstruction I’m left with chronic inflammation. Just a hike or short run is enough to require ice and elevation. But then I tried a cbd heavy sativa strain that was confidently pre-packaged in a disposable vape pen (since I’m not a fan of smoking). All I can say is medical benifits are REAL. While using the MJ I was able to go off my sometimes 2400mg ibuprofen/day regiment that does horrors to my GI tract.

I’ve tried the cbd stuff from local shops and there’s ZERO comparison to the real thing. While the products I prefer don’t remotelyregister in the “omg I can’t move” spectrum. I do find a feeling of euphoria in the relief of chronic pain and a lightened sense of general every day anxiety.

Man, I am mixed on this deal. I think it is going to overwhelmingly pass, and while I don't personally use or plan to use MJ in any way, I do believe that it does have its purpose, and does help people medically.

What concerns me is this isn't going to be too hard to get a script for, probably easier than opioid's were in the past. There will be a huge influx in people that need to be "medicated" overnight. From the way I read the law (and correct me if I am wrong), I could be sitting with my family at a restaurant, Thunder game, city park, boathouse, etc..., The person next to me could decide that they need their medication, and light up right then and there, and nothing could be done about it, as they could state that they required their medication.

While this may be extreme, I feel that there will be instances like this. I just think the law going to vote has some vagueness to it, and needs more detail.

IIRC CBD alone may help with certain ailments but the combination of CBD + THC has enhanced medical efficacy for some applications.

Certainly. In regards to the snake oil comment. Medications vary for applications and people.

There are still no smoking and vaping laws. Sure, someone could use cannabis products next to you but would they really be allowed to smoke up right next to you?

Man, I am mixed on this deal. I think it is going to overwhelmingly pass, and while I don't personally use or plan to use MJ in any way, I do believe that it does have its purpose, and does help people medically.

What concerns me is this isn't going to be too hard to get a script for, probably easier than opioid's were in the past. There will be a huge influx in people that need to be "medicated" overnight. From the way I read the law (and correct me if I am wrong), I could be sitting with my family at a restaurant, Thunder game, city park, boathouse, etc..., The person next to me could decide that they need their medication, and light up right then and there, and nothing could be done about it, as they could state that they required their medication.

While this may be extreme, I feel that there will be instances like this. I just think the law going to vote has some vagueness to it, and needs more detail.

well I'm pretty sure law would not allow people to just use their Medication right next to you no matter where you are. I don't know how over scripted it may be but considering no script is needed at all for Alcohol and someone RIGHT next to you at thunder games can use it legally all day long.

Man, I am mixed on this deal. I think it is going to overwhelmingly pass, and while I don't personally use or plan to use MJ in any way, I do believe that it does have its purpose, and does help people medically.

Hopefully it does pass and HOPEFULLY many people can get off the dangerous opioids and other dangerous stuff and get on the MMJ train that is soo much safer. A few powerful people back in the day decided that MJ/Hemp would cut into their profits so they went out on a campaign to blackball a product that was used by many people at the time with no serious issues. It's time for the common people to stand up and make their voice heard loud and clear. I think there's enough people today that are smart enough to see through the BS spewed by some that want to keep this on the black market instead of the free market. The Churchers and Cartels are hand in hand on this issue. I hope they understand that trying to vote this down is playing right into the cartels hands.

What concerns me is this isn't going to be too hard to get a script for, probably easier than opioid's were in the past. There will be a huge influx in people that need to be "medicated" overnight. From the way I read the law (and correct me if I am wrong), I could be sitting with my family at a restaurant, Thunder game, city park, boathouse, etc..., The person next to me could decide that they need their medication, and light up right then and there, and nothing could be done about it, as they could state that they required their medication.

It should be regulated just like Beer and Wine and not like Opiods IMO. If you are old enough legally to buy liquor you should be able to purchase MMJ. That is my opinion and that would be recreational but we are not voting on that. This will require a script to get just like any other medication I would assume. I am sure there will be a bunch of doctors that are held hostage by the Big Pharma that will not have anything to do with MMJ. Bottom line I seriously doubt things will be much different than they are now. I mean if people want to smoke MJ they are going to do weather this law passes or not. There's people in OK that have been using MJ for years and I seriously doubt that they are going to stop using if this gets defeated. IMO I wouldn't worry about infringing on your air space since I assume the smoking laws are not just for cigs. I am not really sure what the smoking laws are exactly since I don't smoke.

While this may be extreme, I feel that there will be instances like this. I just think the law going to vote has some vagueness to it, and needs more detail.

I am sure Oklahoma's Super Law Makers will gut the crap out of it so you shouldn't have too much to fret about.

I am sure Oklahoma's Super Law Makers will gut the crap out of it so you shouldn't have too much to fret about.

You're right. By the time the Oklahoma Legislature gets thru butchering the law once it passes; there won't be anything left that resembles Chitterlings or Menudo,

On average in the USA 106 people a day die from opioid overdose. That's 38,690 people a year. How many have died from MJ?
It is very very foolish to have MJ anywhere near the same class as these dangerous drugs. In fact, it's insane.

Hopefully Doctors that have patients on daily opioid pain killers will try and encourage them to try MMJ and see if it works for them. Maybe just maybe we can save some lives. Hopefully Doctors in OK will get on board.

Man, I am mixed on this deal. I think it is going to overwhelmingly pass, and while I don't personally use or plan to use MJ in any way, I do believe that it does have its purpose, and does help people medically.

What concerns me is this isn't going to be too hard to get a script for, probably easier than opioid's were in the past. There will be a huge influx in people that need to be "medicated" overnight. From the way I read the law (and correct me if I am wrong), I could be sitting with my family at a restaurant, Thunder game, city park, boathouse, etc..., The person next to me could decide that they need their medication, and light up right then and there, and nothing could be done about it, as they could state that they required their medication.

While this may be extreme, I feel that there will be instances like this. I just think the law going to vote has some vagueness to it, and needs more detail.

The law in states with full recreational cannabis prohibit public use, so I see no reason why that scenario would play out, UNLESS the person used edibles or tinctures. This actually has made "pot tourism" a problem in those states because people staying in a hotel (where smoking is forbidden) can't light up a joint anywhere without breaking the law.

Man, I am mixed on this deal. I think it is going to overwhelmingly pass, and while I don't personally use or plan to use MJ in any way, I do believe that it does have its purpose, and does help people medically.

What concerns me is this isn't going to be too hard to get a script for, probably easier than opioid's were in the past. There will be a huge influx in people that need to be "medicated" overnight. From the way I read the law (and correct me if I am wrong), I could be sitting with my family at a restaurant, Thunder game, city park, boathouse, etc..., The person next to me could decide that they need their medication, and light up right then and there, and nothing could be done about it, as they could state that they required their medication.

While this may be extreme, I feel that there will be instances like this. I just think the law going to vote has some vagueness to it, and needs more detail.

I don't think very many Oklahomans will rush to take advantage of medical marijuana. Research shows only 5% of Californians have had experience with medical marijuana. It's less than that in states where medical marijuana hasn't been legal for as long.
https://www.hellomd.com/health-wellness/55cce0213764610006150000/how-many-people-in-california-are-using-medical-marijuana

A number of arguments made against SQ788 are really more legitimate to make over a question to legalize rec marijuana in Oklahoma. For this reason, I won't be surprised if the first attempt to legalize rec marijuana fails in Oklahoma. Opponents bring up unattractive looking statistics made well after a state legalized rec marijuana. I have to remind them we're talking about legalizing medical marijuana, not rec.

I don't expect the rules for smoking marijuana will be any different than smoking. Unless legislators nix it, employers won't have the right to fire workers who smoke medical marijuana off the job. But they can't do that against cigarette smokers, either. Much doctor recommended medical marijuana is not even smoked.

My experience in Colorado and having gone through the garbage of this medical marijuana proposal is that people just realize what they are voting for. You're voting for recreational pot. I really have few problems with legalized pot - especially real medical pot. I do feel it can help with chronic pain, seizures, nausea, etc. I do have a problem when a major proposal is made through subversive and misleading means. If Oklahomans want legalized pot then so be it because that is what you will get.

I took the time to read the legislation and it essentially amounts to recreational pot because the loopholes are huge and using licensed dispensaries instead of pharmacies or state-owned dispensaries setsvup full recreational sales. Penalties are small and rules are lax.

Here's what you are getting:
- Recreational pot disguised as medical marijuana
-Cities and towns will have no ability to opt out if they so choose. In Colorado, they can opt out if they feel it is in the communities best interest.
-There is nothing I saw limiting the number of dispensaries within a finite space. You run the risk of blocks full of pot shops and the attraction that will be for crime. It happened in Colorado.
-Employers may only penalize employees who use during work. Nothing is said about employees who are unger the influence but not using at work. Two joint lunches anyone? Doctors? Nurses? Electric linesmen? Bankers? Stockbrokers? Teachers?
- There don't seem to be regulations on the product, especially when it comes to concentrates, oils, edibles, packaging, how to keep it from looking like candy for kids. apportionment, etc.
- the regs allow 4 1/2 POUNDS of edibles. POUNDS? For medical marijuana needs?
-the regs allow cities and towns to let you have more than prescribed in the law
- pot businesses can't use banks. How will they clean their money (real question since pot shop money often smells like skunk)? How will they get rid of the cash?

There is really nothing describing exactly who is pushing this. I could not easily find any individuals behind the effort. Oklahomans for Health could be a drug cartel or a grow warehouse enterprise or herb-friendly citizens. Nothing seems to say but this is a money business and one is usually wise to follow the money.

My experience in Colorado and having gone through the garbage of this medical marijuana proposal is that people just realize what they are voting for. You're voting for recreational pot. I really have few problems with legalized pot - especially real medical pot. I do feel it can help with chronic pain, seizures, nausea, etc. I do have a problem when a major proposal is made through subversive and misleading means. If Oklahomans want legalized pot then so be it because that is what you will get.

I took the time to read the legislation and it essentially amounts to recreational pot because the loopholes are huge and using licensed dispensaries instead of pharmacies or state-owned dispensaries setsvup full recreational sales. Penalties are small and rules are lax.

Here's what you are getting:
- Recreational pot disguised as medical marijuana
-Cities and towns will have no ability to opt out if they so choose. In Colorado, they can opt out if they feel it is in the communities best interest.
-There is nothing I saw limiting the number of dispensaries within a finite space. You run the risk of blocks full of pot shops and the attraction that will be for crime. It happened in Colorado.
-Employers may only penalize employees who use during work. Nothing is said about employees who are unger the influence but not using at work. Two joint lunches anyone? Doctors? Nurses? Electric linesmen? Bankers? Stockbrokers? Teachers?
- There don't seem to be regulations on the product, especially when it comes to concentrates, oils, edibles, packaging, how to keep it from looking like candy for kids. apportionment, etc.
- the regs allow 4 1/2 POUNDS of edibles. POUNDS? For medical marijuana needs?
-the regs allow cities and towns to let you have more than prescribed in the law
- pot businesses can't use banks. How will they clean their money (real question since pot shop money often smells like skunk)? How will they get rid of the cash?

There is really nothing describing exactly who is pushing this. I could not easily find any individuals behind the effort. Oklahomans for Health could be a drug cartel or a grow warehouse enterprise or herb-friendly citizens. Nothing seems to say but this is a money business and one is usually wise to follow the money.
You're so wrong. Really it is for medical marijuana, not recreational marijuana. As a matter of FACT, I don't know of any rec law that first requires a doctor's approval or anybody's. Just be 21. It is past time Oklahoma ignore the naysayers and start taking care of its own. No more medical marijuana refugees!

For where this is coming from, Oklahomans for Health is a fully Oklahoma grown straight from the heart grass roots movement organized to legalize medical marijuana. During the first quarter of 2016, public meetings were held in Oklahoma City, Tulsa, Stillwater and Norman to finalize the wording in the petition. You can think they didn't do a very good job, if you want. At the Oklahoma City meeting Green the Vote, originators of the failed 2015 med mj petition, decided it didn't like the direction Oklahomans For Health was taking and parted company. Their new petition would not include legal hemp growing and was for the statutes, rather than for the state constitution. At the Tulsa meeting, it was revealed that the request made to the Marijuana Policy Project for money was denied. The petition drive started in May 2016. Oklahomans gave around $35,000 to fund it. Seldom if ever was an Oklahoma petition successful with so little money. The key to success was going with the type of petition that was for a statute change rather than constitutional one. Such petitions require considerably fewer signatures.

For the 2018 campaign, a group from Oklahomans For Health split to form the Vote Yes on 788 PAC. Meet the board at the bottom of this page: https://yeson788.com/about-us The chairman, Frank Grove, is primarily doing it because his father has a brain tumor. Another organization in the campaign is New Health Solutions Oklahoma. It's a new trade organization formed in Oklahoma that wants to lobby to get the legal marijuana industry started in Oklahoma. The head, OKC attorney Bud Scott, has been doing a good job pushing at some of the forums. He will tell you that in other states, it's typical for legal medical marijuana to have started out with as little more than a few pages in a petition and after voter approval as much as hundreds of pages of regulations were made to address and clarify issues. Oklahoma HB3468 represents a good start to it. Passed by the House but ignored by the Senate. Since SQ788 is for state statutes, rather than for the state constitution, it shouldn't be too difficult, for legislators to change or add to it, but hopefully not gut it, to address concerns you raised. Legislators can so much as throw the whole thing out, if they so dare to go against the will of the majority who passed it.

One individual in it is Norma Sapp, who has been an activist for Oklahoma marijuana and hemp law reform for the past 29 years. With Scott, she was on the yes side at the forum in Edmond. So once again, this is a genuine straight from the heart Oklahoma originated grass roots movement. Oklahoma farmers have donated. Little, if any outside money or groups are helping it. Far from million$ to follow, so far. Don't let Sen. Lankford lie to you about that. It will be interesting to see the final financial disclosures.

I'll admit this medical marijuana movement seems a little silly. But like it or not, it has become an American custom that you first have to legalize medical marijuana before you can legalize rec marijuana state by state. It results from the Feds largely being totally death to concerned citizens. They doctors and scientists. So when you think something right has to me done and an oppressive government wants nothing to do with it, you sometimes have to devise a means to go around government.

My experience in Colorado and having gone through the garbage of this medical marijuana proposal is that people just realize what they are voting for. You're voting for recreational pot. I really have few problems with legalized pot - especially real medical pot. I do feel it can help with chronic pain, seizures, nausea, etc. I do have a problem when a major proposal is made through subversive and misleading means. If Oklahomans want legalized pot then so be it because that is what you will get.

I took the time to read the legislation and it essentially amounts to recreational pot because the loopholes are huge and using licensed dispensaries instead of pharmacies or state-owned dispensaries setsvup full recreational sales. Penalties are small and rules are lax.

Here's what you are getting:
- Recreational pot disguised as medical marijuana
-Cities and towns will have no ability to opt out if they so choose. In Colorado, they can opt out if they feel it is in the communities best interest.
-There is nothing I saw limiting the number of dispensaries within a finite space. You run the risk of blocks full of pot shops and the attraction that will be for crime. It happened in Colorado.
-Employers may only penalize employees who use during work. Nothing is said about employees who are unger the influence but not using at work. Two joint lunches anyone? Doctors? Nurses? Electric linesmen? Bankers? Stockbrokers? Teachers?
- There don't seem to be regulations on the product, especially when it comes to concentrates, oils, edibles, packaging, how to keep it from looking like candy for kids. apportionment, etc.
- the regs allow 4 1/2 POUNDS of edibles. POUNDS? For medical marijuana needs?
-the regs allow cities and towns to let you have more than prescribed in the law
- pot businesses can't use banks. How will they clean their money (real question since pot shop money often smells like skunk)? How will they get rid of the cash?

There is really nothing describing exactly who is pushing this. I could not easily find any individuals behind the effort. Oklahomans for Health could be a drug cartel or a grow warehouse enterprise or herb-friendly citizens. Nothing seems to say but this is a money business and one is usually wise to follow the money.


You're so wrong. Really it is for medical marijuana, not recreational marijuana. As a matter of FACT, I don't know of any rec law that first requires a doctor's approval or anybody's. Just be 21. It is past time Oklahoma ignore the naysayers and start taking care of its own. No more medical marijuana refugees!

For where this is coming from, Oklahomans for Health is a fully Oklahoma grown straight from the heart grass roots movement organized to legalize medical marijuana. During the first quarter of 2016, public meetings were held in Oklahoma City, Tulsa, Stillwater and Norman to finalize the wording in the petition. You can think they didn't do a very good job, if you want. At the Oklahoma City meeting Green the Vote, originators of the failed 2015 med mj petition, decided it didn't like the direction Oklahomans For Health was taking and parted company. Their new petition would not include legal hemp growing and was for the statutes, rather than for the state constitution. At the Tulsa meeting, it was revealed that the request made to the Marijuana Policy Project for money was denied. The petition drive started in May 2016. Oklahomans gave around $35,000 to fund it. Seldom if ever was an Oklahoma petition successful with so little money. The key to success was going with the type of petition that was for a statute change rather than constitutional one. Such petitions require considerably fewer signatures.

For the 2018 campaign, a group from Oklahomans For Health split to form the Vote Yes on 788 PAC. Meet the board at the bottom of this page: https://yeson788.com/about-us The chairman, Frank Grove, is primarily doing it because his father has a brain tumor. Another organization in the campaign is New Health Solutions Oklahoma. It's a new trade organization formed in Oklahoma that wants to lobby to get the legal marijuana industry started in Oklahoma. The head, OKC attorney Bud Scott, has been doing a good job pushing at some of the forums. He will tell you that in other states, it's typical for legal medical marijuana to have started out with as little more than a few pages in a petition and after voter approval as much as hundreds of pages of regulations were made to address and clarify issues. Oklahoma HB3468 represents a good start to it. Passed by the House but ignored by the Senate. Since SQ788 is for state statutes, rather than for the state constitution, it shouldn't be too difficult, for legislators to change or add to it, but hopefully not gut it, to address concerns you raised. Legislators can so much as throw the whole thing out, if they so dare to go against the will of the majority who passed it.

One individual in it is Norma Sapp, who has been an activist for Oklahoma marijuana and hemp law reform for the past 29 years. With Scott, she was on the yes side at the forum in Edmond. So once again, this is a genuine straight from the heart Oklahoma originated grass roots movement. Oklahoma farmers have donated. Little, if any outside money or groups are helping it. Far from million$ to follow, so far. Don't let Sen. Lankford lie to you about that. It will be interesting to see the final financial disclosures.

I'll admit this medical marijuana movement seems a little silly. But like it or not, it has become an American custom that you first have to legalize medical marijuana before you can legalize rec marijuana state by state. It results from the Feds largely being totally death to concerned citizens. They doctors and scientists. So when you think something right has to me done and an oppressive government wants nothing to do with it, you sometimes have to devise a means to go around government.

Okahoma would have the most liberal pot laws in america when this passes ....

however i was told by someone that would know recently that the legislature will go into special session if this passes and there will be significant changes including a year delay before actually medical is legal and all the regs that come with actual medical

Okahoma would have the most liberal pot laws in america when this passes ....

however i was told by someone that would know recently that the legislature will go into special session if this passes and there will be significant changes including a year delay before actually medical is legal and all the regs that come with actual medical

It would make sense to me they'd need some legislation built around a new industry like this. They needed time to build legislation for the cold beer laws, too.

As long as they don't gut it or restrict it beyond usability, I don't have a problem with some additional legislation.

Okahoma would have the most liberal pot laws in america when this passes ....

however i was told by someone that would know recently that the legislature will go into special session if this passes and there will be significant changes including a year delay before actually medical is legal and all the regs that come with actual medical

Yes. I encourage everyone to listen to this podcast with Bud Scott who has worked with many states on their medical cannabis legislation: https://nondoc.com/2018/06/04/bud-scott-sq-788-podcast/. He states clearly that the bill (as a statutory question) was intended to be modified by the legislature, and that there is a wide group of people -- legislators, 788 folks, Bud himself -- working together to draft more clearly written laws pertaining to medical cannabis, establish a commission, etc. etc. The current exact details of the language of the bill should not be a reason to not vote for it. It isn't a constitutional amendment.

There are states with laws, regulations already in place. If any of these laws pass; it's not like we don't have other states' models available as a base guide to draft our own regulations.

IMHO, if you ever see Oklahoma get too loose on marijuana laws, you will know that the state legislation is desperate for new sources of revenue. Farmers will grow it as long as it's legal.

There are states with laws, regulations already in place. If any of these laws pass; it's not like we don't have other states' models available as a base guide to draft our own regulations.

IMHO, if you ever see Oklahoma get too loose on marijuana laws, you will know that the state legislation is desperate for new sources of revenue. Farmers will grow it as long as it's legal.

I don't understand why most people here are acting like this is some kind of new thing and that Oklahoma is doing something that hasn't been done before. Medical marijuana isn't a new concept and more and more states are opting to go full recreational.

I do think Oklahoma might possibly be a decade or more away from recreational and the first attempt to pass it will probably fail. From people I've talked to who are against it, they want to see the long term effects of legalization play out in places like Colorado before giving it consideration here.

I don't understand why most people here are acting like this is some kind of new thing and that Oklahoma is doing something that hasn't been done before. Medical marijuana isn't a new concept and more and more states are opting to go full recreational.

I do think Oklahoma might possibly be a decade or more away from recreational and the first attempt to pass it will probably fail. From people I've talked to who are against it, they want to see the long term effects of legalization play out in places like Colorado before giving it consideration here.

The fact that laws exist in other states doesn't mean it's much easier for our legislature to implement them. It's not going to happen overnight, and if any of our elected officials want to drag it out, I'm certain they will find a way to do so.

I don't understand why most people here are acting like this is some kind of new thing and that Oklahoma is doing something that hasn't been done before. Medical marijuana isn't a new concept and more and more states are opting to go full recreational.

I do think Oklahoma might possibly be a decade or more away from recreational and the first attempt to pass it will probably fail. From people I've talked to who are against it, they want to see the long term effects of legalization play out in places like Colorado before giving it consideration here.

what we are voting on, as written is recreational in all but name

what we are voting on, as written is recreational in all but name

What we are voting on, as written, will not be anywhere close to the whole of the legal framework surrounding MMJ. Why do so many people think that this stub of a state question will be all that will be put in place if we vote on it? Special session will most likely be called, and reams of statutes, laws, rules, etc. will get implemented.

what we are voting on, as written is recreational in all but name

I disagree. You still have to have a prescription from a doctor in order to get it. Yes, there might be potential for abuse but that's already happening with opiates. I really don't understand why conservatives are so terrified of marijuana yet seemingly have no problem with oxycontin, an actual dangerous drug.

I disagree. You still have to have a prescription from a doctor in order to get it. Yes, there might be potential for abuse but that's already happening with opiates. I really don't understand why conservatives are so terrified of marijuana yet seemingly have no problem with oxycontin, an actual dangerous drug.

a 2 year "prescription" from pretty much anyone lets you have 4.5 pounds of edibles and have what 8 ounces at home 3 ounces on person and 12 plants at home

a 2 year "prescription" from pretty much anyone lets you have 4.5 pounds of edibles and have what 8 ounces at home 3 ounces on person and 12 plants at home

and all of that still isn't any worse than OxyContin and far less of a problem then the current opioid problem. but we don't want seem to fix that...

If anything, just legalize the damn thing at all levels so that we get past the mystique of it. It's a smelly plant that can do magical things to our bodies, but it's just one aspect of what should be a very diversified and healthy lifestyle.

what we are voting on, as written is recreational in all but name

What Oklahoma people already use is "recreational". This literally won't change anything except [hopefully] stop people from getting terminated from employment and legal troubles as easily. Seriously does anyone know someone who wants cannabis products and has a hard time getting them? The posts in this thread fearing people toking up in restaurants and stuff is hilarious. This is going to make it easier and legal for the people who are already using cannabis - and the bonus is the state gets to make money from it now!

What Oklahoma people already use is "recreational". This literally won't change anything except [hopefully] stop people from getting terminated from employment and legal troubles as easily. Seriously does anyone know someone who wants cannabis products and has a hard time getting them? The posts in this thread fearing people toking up in restaurants and stuff is hilarious. This is going to make it easier and legal for the people who are already using cannabis - and the bonus is the state gets to make money from it now!

This is what many pro-prohibition conservatives don't understand and it's ironic given the arguments they use against gun control i.e. that prohibitionist laws don't work and won't keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them. They think that keeping marijuana illegal, which to them means its out of sight out of mind since the average Southern Baptist probably doesn't run in the same social circles as your typical cannabis users, means that nobody is using it when in reality that isn't the case. People who want to use marijuana heavily likely already are. In all likelihood, if full recreational marijuana was legalized, there would be an initial spike in usage and then it would taper off to be about what it is now.

What’s the limit of intoxicating alcohol I can purchase at once, carry on me, have in my home, or brew on my own?

We don’t even have to go to options to make a point. There is no logical argument against marijuana while alcohol is legal.

what we are voting on, as written is recreational in all but name

Not what I have seen. It's loose but def. not recreational. Of course what is written will not be what we will see after they do selective surgery on it. I just hope it's there and not that hard to get for people who can benefit from it.

and all of that still isn't any worse than OxyContin and far less of a problem then the current opioid problem. but we don't want seem to fix that...


It's like some people don't get it. MMJ is NO WHERE near as dangerous as these narcotics that the Docs and Big Pharma got so many people hooked on. Not even in the same ballpark.

what we are voting on, as written is recreational in all but name
Who knows? It's possible after legislators are through gutting it, only people on their death beds will be allowed access to med marijuana. The opposition who complain SQ788 isn't restrictive enough doesn't seem to know that could happen.

Okahoma would have the most liberal pot laws in america when this passes ....

however i was told by someone that would know recently that the legislature will go into special session if this passes and there will be significant changes including a year delay before actually medical is legal and all the regs that come with actual medical

Lol, no we won't. Even if we did... who cares? This is putting in place a legal framework for a GIANT, criminal industry.

Let me break it down:

Now: criminal distributors decide who buys weed. You think drug dealers sell to minors? Yep. You think drug dealers would be willing to kill in order to protect their ability to protect their revnues? Yep. Thousands of pounds of weed are sold annually in OK with ZERO restrictions. Could the weed be contaminated? Yep. Could it be laced with PCP? Sure, again, ZERO control. Think these drug dealers might sell other substances to their customers such as cocaine and methamphetamine? YES. Criminal. Distribution.

788 Passes: Board certified physicians decide who can buy weed based on the patient's need. A user would purchase the substance from a legal, retail entity.

FYI - the NO on 788 campaign has spent $500,000 on media advertising to spread fear mongering bull**** about how 788 will ruin our state. Just got an alert from the Yes on 788 campaign.

You can donate to the YES campaign here:

https://yeson788.com/donate

FYI - the NO on 788 campaign has spent $500,000 on media advertising to spread fear mongering bull**** about how 788 will ruin our state. Just got an alert from the Yes on 788 campaign.

You can donate to the YES campaign here:

https://yeson788.com/donate

This kind of stuff is why I think full (recreational) marijuana legalization in Oklahoma is a pipe dream for the foreseeable future. Marijuana will be like tattoos, the lottery, casinos, and liquor. Oklahoma will still be fighting this battle decades after the rest of the nation has moved on.

Hopefully a majority of the state doesn't buy the fearmongering propaganda but I'm not super hopeful. 788 needs to pass with above 60% in favor to give it more political clout. If it barely passes, the legislature may be more likely to completely gut it.

This kind of stuff is why I think full (recreational) marijuana legalization in Oklahoma is a pipe dream for the foreseeable future. Marijuana will be like tattoos, the lottery, casinos, and liquor. Oklahoma will still be fighting this battle decades after the rest of the nation has moved on.

Hopefully a majority of the state doesn't buy the fearmongering propaganda but I'm not super hopeful. 788 needs to pass with above 60% in favor to give it more political clout. If it barely passes, the legislature may be more likely to completely gut it.

I wonder how the fear mongering ads and propaganda looked like during the campaign back in 1959 to vote to legalize alcohol? Yet, in Oklahoma City and Tulsa it passed by a wide margin.

I wonder how the fear mongering ads and propaganda looked like during the campaign back in 1959 to vote to legalize alcohol? Yet, in Oklahoma City and Tulsa it passed by a wide margin.

In 1959, it was mostly restricted to newspapers and local TV received over rabbit ears. There was no Internet or cable. I do wonder how the ads looked though, that is a good question. Even though prohibition was repealed, the system put in place was one of the strictest in the nation. This coming October, Oklahoma will finally have what most states have had for many decades when it comes to alcohol.

I don't understand why most people here are acting like this is some kind of new thing and that Oklahoma is doing something that hasn't been done before. Medical marijuana isn't a new concept and more and more states are opting to go full recreational.

I do think Oklahoma might possibly be a decade or more away from recreational and the first attempt to pass it will probably fail. From people I've talked to who are against it, they want to see the long term effects of legalization play out in places like Colorado before giving it consideration here.

Right. Long term effects of legal medical marijuana can be found in California where it was legalized in 1996. As was pointed out elsewhere, only 5% of the California population have taken advantage of it. Opponents of SQ788 shouldn't get legal medical marijuana confused with legal rec.

It took California 20 years to approve legal rec after legal med. People who think it will take Oklahoma a long time to approve of rec, if it passes SQ788 have that as a reason to go by. The Feds taking marijuana off Schedule 1, or acts of Congress could speed things up some.