Woodward is simply paid off by the prison industry and is deathly afraid of an Oklahoma where people aren't locked up for ten years for possessing a joint.

Woodward is simply paid off by the prison industry and is deathly afraid of an Oklahoma where people aren't locked up for ten years for possessing a joint.

Woodward probably would only tell you that very few Oklahomans ever go to prison over possession charges of marijuana alone. But I don't know the actual percentage of people in Oklahoma prisons over just a marijuana possession charge. But other charges added on, such as also being found in the possession of a fire arm, or selling it may do it.

Perhaps the next time Mr. Woodward is invited to be an expert guest commentator on KFOR they could make him stand in front of a blue screen and "photoshop" in clown makeup . . . along with some juggling, trapeze artistry, and lion-taming going on the background? (it might be one step in the desired direction of whatever or wherever)

Mark Woodward, spokesperson for the Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics, is dumber than a pothead? | The Lost Ogle (http://www.thelostogle.com/2014/01/21/mark-woodward-spokesperson-for-the-oklahoma-bureau-of-narcotics-is-dumber-than-a-pothead/#more-41423)

This will probably go nowhere, but for what it's worth:

Bill filed to legalize marijuana in Oklahoma | News OK (http://newsok.com/bill-filed-to-legalize-marijuana-in-oklahoma/article/3927283)

Medical marijuana brings Oklahoma families to Colorado to treat kids in need - Tulsa World: Health (http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/health/medical-marijuana-brings-oklahoma-families-to-colorado-to-treat-kids/article_e5eeb610-85de-52b9-a4f2-37a9e42b9737.html#.UuUV_bvsri8.facebook)

This will probably go nowhere, but for what it's worth:

Bill filed to legalize marijuana in Oklahoma | News OK (http://newsok.com/bill-filed-to-legalize-marijuana-in-oklahoma/article/3927283)

I wonder how many people will have to show up in support of this bill to make a difference? Prob. at least 99% of the population of OK.

The war on drugs is a joke: JEFF EDELSTEIN: Weedman in jail for marijuana, allowed to leave jail to smoke marijuana (http://www.trentonian.com/opinion/20140126/jeff-edelstein-weedman-in-jail-for-marijuana-allowed-to-leave-jail-to-smoke-marijuana)

Good letter to the editor from an inmate in yesterdays paper. I know many just look past these things but it is unconscionable to me how someone could get life for using or selling a drug.

I'm one of a number of Oklahomans who've been given a “death sentence” (life without parole) for a nonviolent drug offense. Concerned citizens should join us in getting this social injustice changed. We need to show the Legislature that the public doesn't support the incarceration of citizens until their death for a nonviolent offense. This sentence should be used only for the most violent, heinous crimes. Locking up people until they die for drug offenses is wrong and the law needs to be changed.

I estimate that 49 people are serving a sentence of life without parole for a nonviolent drug offense. If all of us stay in prison until we die, it will cost taxpayers tens of millions of dollars in housing and medical costs alone. There has to be a smarter way to deal with drug offenders. Let your voice be heard and tell your neighbors, friends, church members and anyone else you can think of to see this for what it is — wrong. Stop this injustice and support ending the life-without-parole sentence for nonviolent drug offenders.

William Dufries, Granite

Dufries is an inmate at the Oklahoma State Reformatory in Granite.

link: Drug sentencing rules need to be changed | News OK (http://newsok.com/drug-sentencing-rules-need-to-be-changed/article/3926973)

I'll never be able to quite understand how it was once thought that, Jimmy Montgomery, a paraplegic in a wheelchair with marijuana, posed such a serious menace to society that he had to be sentenced to life in prison. He wasn't in there for long, though, and got out, due to serious medical issues.

I guess it shows a lot of Oklahomans feel people who sell drugs are as low as child molesters, or worse, because nobody should be selling anyone anything one could get addicted to. But then no one would think of giving life in prison to a liquor store clerk who sells booze every day to an alcoholic. But it further shows that society's problem with drugs should be viewed much more as a serious public health problem, not an extreme criminal one.

New Bill Pushes To Legalize Marijuana in Oklahoma - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | (http://www.news9.com/story/24560650/new-bill-pushes-to-legalize-marijuana-in-oklahoma)

I really wish this would pass

Please see post 665, plupan.

Please see post 665, plupan.I know; wishful thinking man! :)

Now up with a Facebook page! Now's your chance to get involved.

https://www.facebook.com/SB2116?fref=tck

Pot legalization in Oklahoma pushed after poll shows support - Tulsa World: Government (http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/government/pot-legalization-in-oklahoma-pushed-after-poll-shows-support/article_e76e770a-9753-5fcd-b0f5-e5cd43d6299c.html)

Pot legalization in Oklahoma pushed after poll shows support - Tulsa World: Government (http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/government/pot-legalization-in-oklahoma-pushed-after-poll-shows-support/article_e76e770a-9753-5fcd-b0f5-e5cd43d6299c.html)

So does anyone know how many people are showing up for this historical event at the State Capitol?

According to this facebook page, over 1200 people have RSVP'd

https://www.facebook.com/events/1418029761773924/1420892411487659/?notif_t=plan_mall_activity

BlackmoreRulz...Thanks for posting the FB site. And if any of you are going to attend the rally...keep your eyes on the drug-sniffing dogs.

BlackmoreRulz...Thanks for posting the FB site. And if any of you are going to attend the rally...keep your eyes on the drug-sniffing dogs.

Drug dogs should be banned. They're too unreliable. They don't always catch drugs for real and can be coaxed into giving a false alert.

According to this facebook page, over 1200 people have RSVP'd

https://www.facebook.com/events/1418029761773924/1420892411487659/?notif_t=plan_mall_activity

Wow that's a really good crowd! Hopefully even more show up.

According to this facebook page, over 1200 people have RSVP'd

https://www.facebook.com/events/1418029761773924/1420892411487659/?notif_t=plan_mall_activity

Looks like this might be the original FB Page... https://www.facebook.com/SB2116

Wow that's a really good crowd! Hopefully even more show up.

Today was the day for the rally at the Capitol. Anyone heard anything? Didn't get a chance to watch the local news this evening and just remembered that today was the day for this rally.

It's been on TV news. After finding out the presentation at the state capitol for CBD medical marijuana would be broadcast online, I decided just to stay home and watch it that way. It was interesting, but apparently very few legislators were there.

Probably the only hope is to bypass the legislators and think about how practical it would be to do a petition to get legalization of marijuana, like now in Colorado, on the ballot for November 2014. If I'm right, at least 125,000 signatures would be required with 3 months to get them. Don't know if there is enough strong sentiment out there to do that or the funding, but too early for now to say never for this Nov. Interesting that the failed petition to get storm shelters in schools was able to get as many signatures as it did, since it didn't seem well publicized.

However, there seems to be a poll that is about to come out showing Oklahomans strongly against legalization and will be in sharp contrast to a Sooner poll last year that indicated the opposite. http://newsok.com/oklahomans-overwhelmingly-oppose-making-pot-legal/article/3932950

Misinformation is still out there. This ignorant letter writer thinks that you can get re-high when you go work out because marijuana is stored in the bodys fat... SMH...

Marijuana isn't without consequences | News OK (http://newsok.com/marijuana-isnt-without-consequences/article/3941053)

Drug dogs should be banned. They're too unreliable. They don't always catch drugs for real and can be coaxed into giving a false alert.

Just a bunch of little four-legged Tea Partiers, aren't they!

Cannaphobes!

Just a bunch of little four-legged Tea Partiers, aren't they!

Cannaphobes!

After training hundreds of drug dogs, ex-narc Barry Cooper knows first hand how unreliable they are. So does legal medical marijuana patient Irvin Rosenfeld who has been through airports with his marijuana with drug dogs ignoring him.

These videos deserve to be watched:

This is your body on weed - CNN.com Video (http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/health/2014/03/10/orig-brain-on-weed-sanjay-jr-jt.cnn.html)

Misinformation is still out there. This ignorant letter writer thinks that you can get re-high when you go work out because marijuana is stored in the bodys fat... SMH...

Marijuana isn't without consequences | News OK (http://newsok.com/marijuana-isnt-without-consequences/article/3941053)

Sometimes I wonder if Oklahoma has a super efficient manufacturing facility for REALLY. DUMB. PEOPLE.

New study counters pot legalization argument » Local News » The Edmond Sun (http://www.edmondsun.com/local/x1535568194/New-study-counters-pot-legalization-argument)

New study counters pot legalization argument » Local News » The Edmond Sun (http://www.edmondsun.com/local/x1535568194/New-study-counters-pot-legalization-argument)

And research has found that most people with schizophrenia smoke cigarettes. So where are the cries to fully ban tobacco?

Same thing with alcohol or prescription medication.

Back around 1966 as LSD was becoming popular, ~they~ issued a warning on chromosome damage and future children would be adversely affected; didn't happen. A half century later, they're drumming up hysteria about brain changes from pot.

This is bull$#!t.

New study counters pot legalization argument » Local News » The Edmond Sun (http://www.edmondsun.com/local/x1535568194/New-study-counters-pot-legalization-argument)

The Edmond Sun ~~ enuf said.

The Edmond Sun ~~ enuf said.Hey now.... they report some nice stuff....... sometimes ;)

Back around 1966 as LSD was becoming popular, ~they~ issued a warning on chromosome damage and future children would be adversely affected; didn't happen. A half century later, they're drumming up hysteria about brain changes from pot.

This is bull$#!t.

When all, or nearly all, studies keep coming up with at worst inconclusive results in trying to determine the nature of what serious harm marijuana causes to the human body, you gotta keep resorting to hysteria. The media is, such as Fox News, is doing a good job at promoting it.

My guess as to one major reason why almost all Oklahoma legislators are not showing any interest in legalizing marijuana in any way is they are not getting any real nice sized campaign donations coming with the impression they better show some positive interest in the issue, if they want another campaign donation.

I'm totally opposed to allowing cannabis to be recreational.

However, if it's legalized I won't have a problem with it. I only hope
there is a way to nail those who toke and drive.

I'm totally opposed to allowing cannabis to be recreational.



How come? Because there is no doubt in your mind, whatsoever, that society is much safer off when marijuana is banned so sales of it can be kept underground, out of sight, out of mind and under the control of criminals? Perish the thought of it being legalized with marijuana leaf logos and sale prices appearing every day on store windows reminding everybody it's there for sale. Come and get it!

I'm totally opposed to allowing cannabis to be recreational.

However, if it's legalized I won't have a problem with it. I only hope
there is a way to nail those who toke and drive.Come on man, I thought you all for freedom? I do NOT believe in doing pot and also believe it does cause long term damage, but if people want to be morons, let them. I believe in freedom and that is the freedom to put in your body what YOU please. If it were up to me, pretty much every drug would be legalized and regulated, but that might be best saved for another day.

I'm totally opposed to allowing cannabis to be recreational.

However, if it's legalized I won't have a problem with it. I only hope
there is a way to nail those who toke and drive.
Part of the package of legalization laws after the approval of Amendment 64 was a blood test for THC level for driving under the influence.

Part of the package of legalization laws after the approval of Amendment
64 was a blood test for THC level for driving under the influence.
THC stays in the system for a long time. It's possibly that one could be
considered under the influence even if s/he hadn't smoked in a week.
Right?

Come on man, I thought you all for freedom?
I am. I see this as a stepping stone to legalizing other drugs. That can't
be good.

THC stays in the system for a long time. It's possibly that one could be
considered under the influence even if s/he hadn't smoked in a week.
Right?
I know that was some of the discussion on the proper THC/BAC level to constitute DUI. I have no idea what the particulars are as I have never partaken myself and don't really plan to although we were around it at the Dream Theater concert a couple of weeks ago.


I am. I see this as a stepping stone to legalizing other drugs. That can't be good.
Every person and I mean EVERY person that I have known with substance abuse problems started with alcohol, that is the ultimate gateway drug. I don't see street cocaine being legalized but certain big pharma forms are legal, the ENT doc uses a variant to deaden my nose before working on it.

THC stays in the system for a long time. It's possibly that one could be
considered under the influence even if s/he hadn't smoked in a week.
Right?

It's enough to drive one to drinking.

I am. I see this as a stepping stone to legalizing other drugs. That can't
be good.
Narcs estimate they only seize 10% of the underground drug market. So how it that good, if the government is really concerned for the public good about people fooling around with illegal drugs?

THC stays in the system for a long time. It's possibly that one could be
considered under the influence even if s/he hadn't smoked in a week.
Right?

Well of course you can count on good ol Oklahoma to have this as law. As of now you could be in a wreck and if they happen to test your blood and find thc from the joint you smoked on your trip to Colorado the previous week, you would get a DUI. Oklahoma has some of the harshest pot laws in the land.

So true!

Oklahoma has DUI - Driving Under the Influence and DWI - Driving While Intoxicated.

Oklahoma Drunk Driving Charges: DWI vs. DUI Arrest (http://www.atkinsandmarkoff.com/Legal-Blog/2010/September/Oklahoma-Drunk-Driving-Charges-DWI-vs-DUI-Arrest.aspx)

Knowing Oklahoma, this state would rather smoke weed and hide--pretend to appear righteous--glorified hypocrisy. Who are we fooling? Open the door, Richard! Everyone knows what's going on in the out house. The Baby Boomers had it and hid it; the following generations, seen it and did it...


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Is it time to legalize & tax marijuana like Colorado and Washington? The revenues the state could collect are going into the coffers of the local 'pot' dealers.

http://www.thunderfans.com/vforum/images/smilies/okc.gif "Oklahoma City looks oh-so pretty... ...as I get my kicks on Route 66." --Nat King Cole.http://www.thunderfans.com/vforum/images/smilies/okc.gif

... Oklahoma has some of the harshest pot laws in the land.
Of which I support.

Every person and I mean EVERY person that I have known with substance
abuse problems started with alcohol, that is the ultimate gateway drug. I
don't see street cocaine being legalized but certain big pharma forms are
legal, the ENT doc uses a variant to deaden my nose before working on it.
For the circle I ran with, starting in the 60's, it was pot or Romilar. Alcohol
was at the bottom of the list.

Of which I support.

Why should someone be sentenced to 10 or 15 years in prison for growing one marijuana plant? Who has the subject hurt so terribly bad with one plant? Do you simply somehow get sheer joy in rewarding them free room and board with your tax dollars for that long? Seems like cruel and unusual punishment to me, while I don't seem to recall you complaining about how some child rapists, or molesters, in Oklahoma only get 1 or 2 years in prison. Meantime, a liquor store clerk is quite free to sell an alcoholic all the booze he can carry out of the store. He goes home. Tanks up on the booze, takes off in his car, finds himself driving the wrong way going 80 mph down the Interstate and collides into a car carrying a family of four, killing them all. Nothing has to happen to the liquor store clerk. You, Prunepicker, go overboard in helping Oklahoma society have very strangely out of kilter priorities, while without a doubt, being so pitifully blinded, dumbfounded WRONG in your viewpoint.

The law I mentioned earlier that is on the books in Oklahoma that can give a DUI to a driver that has any amount of THC in their blood even though it is non-impairing was shot down in Arizona. This is not surprising. You shouldnt get a DUI if you arent actually impaired.

Marijuana-DUI Case Tossed by Arizona Supreme Court in Metabolite Ruling | Phoenix New Times (http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2014/04/marijuana-dui_case_tossed_by_a.php)

The law I mentioned earlier that is on the books in Oklahoma that can give a DUI to a driver that has any amount of THC in their blood even though it is non-impairing was shot down in Arizona. This is not surprising. You shouldnt get a DUI if you arent actually impaired.

Marijuana-DUI Case Tossed by Arizona Supreme Court in Metabolite Ruling | Phoenix New Times (http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2014/04/marijuana-dui_case_tossed_by_a.php)

Good point, Oklahoma has always attempted to establish a reputation for being 'tough on crime.' Oklahoma has its flaws; take a look at how F-uped things are in FLORIDA.

Here's an example of how some people get injustice as the laws are flawed in some states throughout the country:

It's a shame that a killer can get 12-20 years for taking a life and a Florida mom gets 20 years for firing a warning shot into the air toward an abusive husband.

Fla. mom gets 20 years for firing warning shots - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots/)

... a Florida mom gets 20 years for firing a warning shot into the air toward an abusive husband.

Fla. mom gets 20 years for firing warning shots - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots/)

Well, there was a tad more to it than that as it turns out. Apparently, after reading the article, the jury didn't accept the in fear of imminent harm argument in light of her getting past the husband, leaving out to the garage, retrieving a handgun from the glove compartment of the car, then returning inside the home and again facing off with the husband. The jury also heard the husband say at trial she shot above them (them being he and the children ... t-h-e--c-h-i-l-d-r-e-n) but heard him on the 911 tape that she pointed the firearm at them and then fired.

For comparison purposes, she sounds like (from this linked article anyway) to have more in common with a certain former local pharmacist than a lass down newcastle way who had someone pounding on the door seeking entry, who she later shot once he busted into the home.

It's not really as outlandish as the headline might suggest.

I am. I see this as a stepping stone to legalizing other drugs. That can't
be good.

You do realize that two of the drugs that cause the most deaths (of all drugs) are already legal, don't you? Of course, you can argue that they cause more deaths because they are legal, hence more available and consumed by more of the population, so go that route if you want...

Also, Portugal has legalized drugs, with apparently somewhat positive results, and Spain and Italy have also done so, I think, but not sure about their results.

You can also just be on the lookout for people who are driving really slowly.

You do realize that two of the drugs that cause the most deaths (of all drugs) are already legal, don't you? Of course, you can argue that they cause more deaths because they are legal, hence more available and consumed by more of the population, so go that route if you want...

Also, Portugal has legalized drugs, with apparently somewhat positive results, and Spain and Italy have also done so, I think, but not sure about their results.

Yes, in Oklahoma in 2012, there were nearly 2 deaths a day from prescription drug abuse, which are legal. But by all means, we should lock up the non violent pot possessor costing taxpayers more money and harming families, as prune suggests...

You can also just be on the lookout for people who are driving really slowly.

And the distinctive glow from light striking the ever present Cheetos dust cloud

The pain relief thingy really works. The best thing about it being legal is you can get it in non smoking items. Plus it doesn't make you constipated like Percocet.

Tulsa attorney running for judge to send a message | www.krmg.com (http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/tulsa-attorney-running-judge-send-message/nfX7m/)

Oklahoma Republicans at the State Capitol need to quit acting like they're too cowardly to take risks that may be perceived to be too risky. My Democrat State Rep., Cory Williams, has frequently voted against Republican bills and agendas since he started. He isn't thrilled about cutting or abolishing the state income tax. He doesn't mind the idea of using the Rainy Day Fund to repair the State Capitol. He voted against the bill that made people guilty of DUI, if THC was found in the blood at any time. Yet, this time around he has drawn no opposition for reelection. He said it makes him feel like he must be doing something right. But scary to think how many Republicans must feel the same way, who also have no opposition to face in November.