Depends on which court and if they have jurisdiction. Don't forget as sovereign nation status, tribes have their own governments, including governors, judiciary, legislators etc.

How much did he put in of his own money? Is that amount in gross winnings or net? Sure someone can be in the right place at the right time and win big. Most gamblers I know (myself included) will talk about the jackpot they hit but rarely tell you about the 100s or 1,000s of dollars they put into the machine of their own money to get that jackpot. There are even professional gamblers out there that really do make a living at such things. They may exist, but I have never heard of a professional slot machine player. Poker, video poker etc, but not slots. But over the lifetime, things are going to eventually turn to where the house wins. In virtually every casino game, the odds are in the houses's favor. Some games have higher percentages than others but the fact remains, you may win 1 year, 2 years or even more, but eventually you are going to lose. To quote you: "can you see the trend?"

The trend is that the payout percentages have changed in the last year. They have been set so low that nobody is winning anything. The good part of it is that attendance is very low these days. At Newcastle and at Riverwind their are more employees than players.

Where is your proof that payout percentages have been changed? You may have answered this in the other thread and I missed it, but please give a link or other proof by any respectable source that says that casinos have the ability to change payouts by a click of the mouse or other back room slight of hand. EVERY report, article, story etc that I have seen ALL say the same thing. Percentages are set at the factory and they can only be set at the factory by either replacing a chip or the entire mother board.

The trend is that the payout percentages have changed in the last year. They have been set so low that nobody is winning anything. The good part of it is that attendance is very low these days. At Newcastle and at Riverwind their are more employees than players.

Do you have any statistical proof of this?

You're understanding is not only incorrect but asinine.


My understanding is that you are nothing but a troll with nothing to add to the forum. Not sure why you post here. Back in the old days they thought of them as savages because they acted like savages. They have sure came a long ways from those days but I don't think that they had any so called laws before we rounded them up and put them on reservations. These days they seem to be civilized.

And what exactly are you adding to the forum? It is nothing but the same regurgitated accusations with no proof to back it up?

My understanding is that you are nothing but a troll with nothing to add to the forum. Not sure why you post here. Back in the old days they thought of them as savages because they acted like savages. They have sure came a long ways from those days but I don't think that they had any so called laws before we rounded them up and put them on reservations. These days they seem to be civilized.

Did it ever occur to you the American Indian acted that way because the white man was killing all their food, taking their land and then killing them?

Time to lock this thread too.... it's getting ignorant, well more ignorant that what it was.

Do you have any statistical proof of this?

The only way you can prove it is from other players because the payouts are a secret because of ignorant Oklahoma Law Makers and their lack of knowledge in the casino business. They trusted the Indian Tribes to regulate themselves. I would bet that Oklahoma Law Makers would also allow the fox to guard the hen house and wonder why they didn't have any chickens.

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Time to lock this thread too.... it's getting ignorant, well more ignorant that what it was.

May as well keep it up. But a thread like this might work better in the political discussions. Are you in control of the threads son?

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I am not sure why they allow trolls like you to post on forums. You add nothing. Is their a place to complain about your trolling?


Forget it. I found it. Thanks anyway.

I am not sure why they allow trolls like you to post on forums. You add nothing. Is their a place to complain about your trolling?

Just send Pete or mmm a message is all you have to do. But be aware they are both Native Americans so include your savages comments.

And what exactly are you adding to the forum? It is nothing but the same regurgitated accusations with no proof to back it up?

Sorry my opinion bothers you so much. I am sure there are other forums you would like better.

Just send Pete or mmm a message is all you have to do. But be aware they are both Native Americans so include your savages comments.

Native Americans should also be concerned about how people feel about these casinos. From what I understand none of the money from these casinos is reaching the poor Native Americans in the state. That is another concern about fairness. If people think that Native Americans are cheaters it hurts the reputation of all Native Americans.

Quick question, are decedents of indigenous peoples US Citizens now?
The answer is yes they are but act as if they are not. I am sure that they enjoy the benefits of being Americans but don't seem to want to live as Americans or follow our laws in America.


How long does a person's ancestors have to live here before the founding of the USA to be conidered indigenous? My family came to America in the 1650s. Is that soon enough?

Just send Pete or mmm a message is all you have to do. But be aware they are both Native Americans so include your savages comments.

I found the little triangle on the left. We will see what happens about trolling now.

How long does a person's ancestors have to live here before the founding of the USA to be conidered indigenous? My family came to America in the 1650s. Is that soon enough?

The American Indian culture developed probably 15,000 to 35,000 years ago so I would say that's a good number. I'm not sure I would say decedents from Columbus are considered indigenous.

if your opinion was based on any sort of factual basis, I wouldn't mind at all.

if your opinion was based on any sort of factual basis, I wouldn't mind at all.

and since he's already admitted that it's not..... it's just whining because he lost at the casino. Must really make him mad them savages took his money.

Just send Pete or mmm a message is all you have to do. But be aware they are both Native Americans so include your savages comments.

Your reading ability seems to be weak. I never said that they were savages. I said they they thought of them as savages because they acted like savages. I have a great friend in New Mexico that is Cherokee and he was one of my best friends. We lived on the edge of The Navajo Nation and some of those people were not civilized and couldn't speak English. That was in the seventies.

and since he's already admitted that it's not..... it's just whining because he lost at the casino. Must really make him mad them savages took his money.

They didn't take my money because I would leave when the machines wouldn't play. A good investigation into their casino business would bring out the facts you need. Maybe it is time for an investigation.

The American Indian culture developed probably 15,000 to 35,000 years ago so I would say that's a good number. I'm not sure I would say decedents from Columbus are considered indigenous.

And we came along and civilized them and educated them and look at them now.

They didn't take my money because I would leave when the machine wouldn't play. A good investigation into their casino business would bring out the facts you need. Maybe it is time for an investigation.

If the machines wouldn't play doesn't that mean you weren’t winning? or were they mechanically not working and you put your money in a broke machine? Either way doesn't that mean they took your money?

Okay, that's enough of this.

WATCHER, either find something else to talk about or your posting privileges will be permanently revoked.