When you factor in traffic it can take over four hours to get to Atlanta from Charlotte. Having DFW close will be nice, especially for those times when I need something that OKC doesn't have. From my research and this board, I think OKC will be a good fit and I am excited to visit and confirm that. I am leaving Charlotte in August and am going to stay with my family in Muldrow while job searching in OKC. I will then relocate to the city upon employment. A lot of what part of the metro I live in depends on where I end up working, but does anybody have any apartment recommendations? I eventually plan on buying a home in the far future but to start off I want an affordable apartment but in a safe area.

I moved to OKC nearly 10 years ago and moved back to Florida 5 years ago. When I lived in OKC I was in my mid-20's, and I lived in Bricktown at the Deep Deuce Apartments. Bricktown gets bashed a lot on here, but I had a blast living there at that age, it was like college part II (and I went to FSU). I made tons of friends there and you can't beat being able to walk down to the bars and games at the arena and the red hawks stadium. Also the pool parties Deep Deuce has are great. There's also the Deep Deuce grill right in the middle of the complex which is a great place to pre-drink. Not to mention rent is very cheap compared to living downtown in other citys. If you are interested in meeting chicks, having a great time, and living in a social atmosphere, I wouldn't recommend any other place.

When you factor in traffic it can take over four hours to get to Atlanta from Charlotte. Having DFW close will be nice, especially for those times when I need something that OKC doesn't have. From my research and this board, I think OKC will be a good fit and I am excited to visit and confirm that. I am leaving Charlotte in August and am going to stay with my family in Muldrow while job searching in OKC. I will then relocate to the city upon employment. A lot of what part of the metro I live in depends on where I end up working, but does anybody have any apartment recommendations? I eventually plan on buying a home in the far future but to start off I want an affordable apartment but in a safe area.
I would recommend Level Urban Apartments. They just opened May 1st. I moved in last week and love it so far. They're located in the Deep Deuce area which is a 5-10 minute walk to both Bricktown and the Central Business District downtown. 1 bedrooms start at 850/month. Level will also have a Native Roots Market on the bottom floor along with a Bar and Grill. An Aloft Hotel is currently being built directly across the street, which will have 2 restaurants and a bar. And in addition to the restaurants in Bricktown that are a short walk away, you also Deep Deuce Grill and The Wedge Pizzeria that are 1-2 blocks away.

I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, but why are so many people so jazzed up over Costco? I used to live around the corner from one, but seldom shopped there. I don't see it being much better than Sam's, at least not enough to get worked over it or changing existing laws to attract. Please do correct me if I'm wrong or if there's something I'm not seeing.

The liquor laws here are pretty dumb, but it's not as tragic as some make it out to be. It's one more errand to run, you can't get it on Sunday, after 9pm, and you have to chill it yourself but that's really not that big of a deal.

Now the distributors here aren't that great and the selection is not so good but that's a different issue. Even the best stocked bars and stores are limited by what the distributors will carry. They carry a lot, but if you want difficult to find craft beers (Japanese for example) you are out of luck. At best, Costco and WF would be able to bring in some of those beers.

You are right that Costco and Sam's are similar.

One big difference is that Costco is a fantastic employer. They pay and treat their people very well; much different than Walmart.

And their customer service is absolutely fantastic.


Similar, but there are some very key difference, not the least of which being many people don't like giving their money to Walmart.

There's good reason to think that a change in the law would bring Costco:



http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=12&articleid=20110822_12_0_OKLAHO326246



Funny. Yes, they could open 6-10 stores by 2014. The Costco reps really haven't said much at all when you really look at it. They could also open stores by 2014 without a change in the law. They could also open no stores in Oklahoma with a change in the law.

I'll go out on a limb here and predict that even if the liquor laws are changed, there willnot be 6, let alone 10 Costco stores in Oklahoma by 2014.

Sigh.... this is pointless to keep rehashing arguments over. The facts have already been posted. Time to move on to something else.

Funny. Yes, they could open 6-10 stores by 2014. The Costco reps really haven't said much at all when you really look at it. They could also open stores by 2014 without a change in the law. They could also open no stores in Oklahoma with a change in the law.

I'll go out on a limb here and predict that even if the liquor laws are changed, there willnot be 6, let alone 10 Costco stores in Oklahoma by 2014.

Wow. Quit while you're ahead. Someone produced a very credible, reputable link with confirming quotes from two sources who would know. And yet you continue to subject us to "what you think" without providing a scintilla of evidence or sourcing.

At some point, "what you think" is kinda not relevant in the face of additional facts that throw your entire unfounded pontification into doubt.

After reading the utter sophistry on this thread by some of our colorful local residents, one wonders if the original poster just decided to stay in Charlotte.

Well if anything guru, the original poster did express concern over the local entertainment amenities..


Wow. Quit while you're ahead. Someone produced a very credible, reputable link with confirming quotes from two sources who would know. And yet you continue to subject us to "what you think" without providing a scintilla of evidence or sourcing.

At some point, "what you think" is kinda not relevant in the face of additional facts that throw your entire unfounded pontification into doubt.

The link swake posted was the exact same link that I was trying to locate on the other page, in the face of my mentioning it, he was still oblivious to all but his own bloviation. Then a page later swake posts it, still digging his own trench..I presume digging to China, just shoveling the dirt wherever it may land.

Now here's the question: Is Costco really worth digging trenches over? Good grief.. but in our defense, I believe oil capital lives in Tulsa, not OKC.
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Okay, guys. Since the linked information was so authoritative, please let me know when the 6th Costco opens. No doubt it will be within a "heartbeat" of the passage of favorable liquor laws. ;-)

I will miss Costco, but I can live with Sam's until Costco opens in OKC which is bound to happen eventually especially if the national economy ever recovers. The biggest downside of Sam's to me is not the store its giving money to Wal-Mart. Same thing with Neighborhood Markets. The ones I have been in are actually pretty nice grocery stores, I just hate giving my money to the Waltons. Oklahoma's liquor laws are a pain, but they are not the worst in the country. As far as I know, liberal Pennsylvania won't allow any alcohol in grocery stores, not even 3.2, so liquor laws or not, as OKC gets more on the national radar, more chains like Costco should be coming in.

I will miss Costco, but I can live with Sam's until Costco opens in OKC which is bound to happen eventually especially if the national economy ever recovers. The biggest downside of Sam's to me is not the store its giving money to Wal-Mart. Same thing with Neighborhood Markets. The ones I have been in are actually pretty nice grocery stores, I just hate giving my money to the Waltons. Oklahoma's liquor laws are a pain, but they are not the worst in the country. As far as I know, liberal Pennsylvania won't allow any alcohol in grocery stores, not even 3.2, so liquor laws or not, as OKC gets more on the national radar, more chains like Costco should be coming in.

I feel your pain regarding Sam's. I do not spend money with Wal-Mart-affiliated entities for a variety of ethical reasons.

Costco "has hired local brokers and are actively seeking locations,” Price Edwards said in the report, compiled and written by Jim Parrack, senior vice president and retail property specialist.

“Costco has done this previously and not pulled the trigger but seem more serious this time. We’ll see.”

"Others retailer looking at Oklahoma City include The Container Store, Trader Joe’s, Lululemon, Fresh Market and Von Maur."

Read more: http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-retail-catching-its-breath-but-poised-to-take-off-again/article/3698035#ixzz22t3Sp7DC