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bchris02 03-16-2015, 07:16 AM Is there a timeline for completion of this?
It's hard to believe a small building like this has taken as long to complete as the Devon Tower.
jn1780 03-16-2015, 07:33 AM Is there a timeline for completion of this?
It's hard to believe a small building like this has taken as long to complete as the Devon Tower.
It has taken longer because it has been delayed and redesigned since Sand Ridge no longer needs it.
Urbanized 03-16-2015, 07:42 AM Can we just get Robert S. Kerr open? Sheesh. As far as I'm concerned my interests regarding this project are in this order:
Open Robert S. Kerr fercryinoutloud
Open Robert S. Kerr
Open Robert S. Kerr
Finish Kerr Park
Open Couch Drive
Finish Parkside Building whenever you have a chance to (or whatever...)
It has taken longer because it has been delayed and redesigned since Sand Ridge no longer needs it.
99% of the time when a building is moving slowly it's due to money problems and I'd be surprised if that wasn't the case here.
They are also haven't signed any leases for some strange reason.
jccouger 03-16-2015, 10:04 AM Doesn't Sandridge own the park property right next to this building? Seems like they could sell this for a nice little profit instead of using it as a corporate plaza.
No, all the land around this building (Kerr and Couch Parks) is owned by the City.
Anonymous. 03-23-2015, 04:42 PM Looks like Robert S Kerr could open any day now. Looks great.
Village 03-23-2015, 07:30 PM I managed to grab a photo of it, its really coming along well.
My apologizes if its a little blurry.
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Thanks for the photos!
Much appreciated.
Stopped by last night... They have made a lot of progress inside.
Lots of trees on site now as well.
RS Kerr is now open.
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/parkside041415.jpg
Just the facts 04-15-2015, 09:02 AM Looking at that picture I am reminded of Howard Kunstler's comment that urban development is not supposed to look like the north woods. If this park is no more used than Sandridge Commons this will be a monumental misallocation of time and resources.
Spartan 04-15-2015, 09:23 AM When did SandRidge promise Kerr Park would be done?
Architect2010 04-15-2015, 05:21 PM Looking at that picture I am reminded of Howard Kunstler's comment that urban development is not supposed to look like the north woods. If this park is no more used than Sandridge Commons this will be a monumental misallocation of time and resources.
I actually agree. Instead of a park across the street from another corporate park, this is a prime real estate smack dab in the heart of the CBD. Potentially this site could be an awesome mixed-use development that could contain and spur retail/street-front commercial along the Couch Drive ROW, which could help spill over and jump-start Park Avenue retail. Especially because there already exists a pedestrian pathway linking Park and Couch, between the Susan G. Komen structure and the BC Clark Jewelers.
Would also help activate the corner of Broadway and Kerr, as currently we've got a drive-thru bank, a parking garage, and another parking garage with a gym anchoring this intersection. Probably the least vibrant of all CBD intersections, with a NOTABLE lack of mixed-uses, appealing architecture, or any sort of street or pedestrian vibrancy. The new park will only help further the feeling of disconnect.
Canoe 04-16-2015, 05:19 AM Who owns this park? The City or the company? If it is the company owns the park then this is just landscaping, is it a place holder until they decide to expand again in.
GaryOKC6 04-16-2015, 06:48 AM Who owns this park? The City or the company? If it is the company owns the park then this is just landscaping, is it a place holder until they decide to expand again in.
I believe it is a city owned park. At least this is what I have always understood. Kerr McGee always kept it up. When they left the park fell into disrepair. It was in bad shape and was also in the way for the new construction so Sandridge agreed to take it over and re do it as part of their project. I can verify this today to be 100 percent sure.
UnFrSaKn 04-16-2015, 10:18 AM 10635
HangryHippo 04-16-2015, 10:59 AM 10635
I think this turned out beautifully. I wish it was taller so it would show up from other vantage points.
Stickman 04-16-2015, 11:05 AM :pat_head:
I like too.
Just the facts 04-17-2015, 03:10 PM I have to believe they are going to have a hard time finding a tennant for this building. It isn't configured well for multi-tennant and just has crazy amounts of wasted volume - that has to be heated and cooled. Plus, no parking with no alternative way to get downtown. But hey, it looks interesting. If people are looking for a Stage Center replacement here it is.
BoulderSooner 04-17-2015, 03:47 PM I have to believe they are going to have a hard time finding a tennant for this building. It isn't configured well for multi-tennant and just has crazy amounts of wasted volume - that has to be heated and cooled. Plus, no parking with no alternative way to get downtown. But hey, it looks interesting. If people are looking for a Stage Center replacement here it is.
I would wager a large some that this is not close to true.
Just the facts 04-17-2015, 04:25 PM Well, if they had someone interested it seems to me they would be trying to finish up ASAP.
bchris02 04-17-2015, 04:40 PM I have to believe they are going to have a hard time finding a tennant for this building. It isn't configured well for multi-tennant and just has crazy amounts of wasted volume - that has to be heated and cooled. Plus, no parking with no alternative way to get downtown. But hey, it looks interesting. If people are looking for a Stage Center replacement here it is.
I think Sandridge themselves should move into the building and then sell their tower.
Just the facts 04-17-2015, 06:27 PM I think Sandridge themselves should move into the building and then sell their tower.
I was wondering if they might move out if the Braniff building and sell it.
Dustin 04-17-2015, 10:30 PM LOVE the design.
If it was taller it would be a jawdropper.
ljbab728 05-05-2015, 11:45 PM I was wondering if they might move out if the Braniff building and sell it.
That's not far from wrong, as per Steve.
SandRidge selling headquarters, other downtown properties | NewsOK.com (http://m.newsok.com/sandridge-selling-headquarters-other-downtown-properties/article/5416583)
The portfolio, which will be listed early next week, includes the 30-story, 500,000-square-foot SandRidge Tower; the 10-story, 85,000-square foot Braniff Building; the new seven-story, 84,000-square foot Parkside Building; and the 862-space Broadway Kerr Parking Facility. Both the tower and the Braniff Building were extensively renovated in 2013.
betts 05-06-2015, 11:20 AM This is a great looking building. I can live without the adjacent "park" though. With the Sandridge Commons as empty as it almost always is, I don't really see any reason for another tree farm.
Great shot showing the emerging Kerr Park -- thanks to CloudDeck Media for the image:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/sandridge051215.jpg
Just the facts 05-12-2015, 02:19 PM If I had a birthday wish it would be to stop building the park and put out a RFP to develop it.
Martin 05-12-2015, 02:35 PM i'm more ok with that park than with the suburban chase structure going in just to the northeast. -M
At this point, I'm just ready for them to wrap things up.
This has got to be longest private construction project in the history of OKC.
HOT ROD 05-12-2015, 08:42 PM Totally agree JTF. Imagine if the street could be reopened and a new 40+ floor hotel+condo tower with a REAL retail podium built next to Parkside. Not only would this spur life into this part of the city but would likely forever be the highest rent/hotel in all of Oklahoma. You'd really be living/hotelling in the center of it all.
Oh well, we're stuck with trying to reinvent Kerr PARK!..
traxx 05-14-2015, 12:28 PM If I had a birthday wish it would be to stop building the park and put out a RFP to develop it.
It should be developed into a surface parking lot.
http://i.imgur.com/d8tLrE4.png?2
Just the facts 05-14-2015, 12:51 PM There is enough land there to do some really cool stuff. At some point we have to start making better use of our opportunities.
CS_Mike 05-14-2015, 06:15 PM Well heck, between all of the unused or underutilized Sandridge properties right there, the Chase bank north of the garage that is about to become even more suburban looking, and the currently unused Land Run properties bordering that, a very creative architect could probably figure out a way to put a unique looking convention center right on the edge of the CBD. it's amazing how much land is being misused in that one concentrated area.
Took this one yesterday.
Once they finally finish up with the building the park parts should go very fast.
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/parkside052315.jpg
Another:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/parkside052415b.jpg
jccouger 05-25-2015, 09:58 AM Amazing building. I love the sandridge campus.
shawnw 05-26-2015, 02:14 PM Imagine if Dowell would have started his refurb at the same time as the Parkside? Even at his pace they both would be wrapping up at the same time...
Just the facts 05-26-2015, 06:31 PM Imagine if Dowell would have started his refurb at the same time as the Parkside? Even at his pace they both would be wrapping up at the same time...
What do you mean? Dowell did start at the same time. He is Treebeard of OKC development.
Dowell actually has done quite of bit of work with the asbestos abatement and some other things.
He can also renovate this floor by floor. Once at least one floor and the lobby are complete, they can open up. At least some space opening could happen relatively quickly.
The HVAC systems are highly zoned allowing parts of the building to be activated without having to do everything at once.
shawnw 05-27-2015, 10:38 AM Good to know
GoldFire 06-17-2015, 05:10 PM Do we have any idea on a timeframe for when they'll start leasing space in this building?
John Knight 07-06-2015, 09:26 AM I took this last night on the way home from Skinny Slim's.
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HOT ROD 07-06-2015, 01:51 PM Parkside makes for a nice urban interactive television studio. Just imagine if one of the big 4 moved back downtown with at least studio space; with the evening news showing the street/park scene of downtown just behind the news anchors. ...
traxx 07-06-2015, 02:25 PM ^^Like
Just the facts 07-06-2015, 03:48 PM That is about the best possible use for that building. Unless that happens I think this building is going to sit empty for a long time because the floor layout actually does make it functional obsolete for most uses. Who knows, maybe Rick Dowell will end up buying it.
shawnw 07-06-2015, 05:01 PM This might sound dumb (and I'm only about 17% serious), but convert it to a parking garage. It would be our most attractive one, fills a need that already exists, and shows that we can still adapt functionally obsolete buildings for use instead of tearing them down. :-)
Urbanized 07-06-2015, 08:28 PM It replaced a perfectly good parking garage. Actually, a kind of cool one, space saving, with offices on top floors.
shawnw 07-07-2015, 09:32 AM Oops, oh yeah
Just the facts 07-07-2015, 09:35 AM It replaced a perfectly good parking garage. Actually, a kind of cool one, space saving, with offices on top floors.
Didn't it have elevators instead of ramps?
Urbanized 07-07-2015, 11:11 AM It did. You didn't drive your own car up. You dropped it inside the entry and an attendant took it up and parked it. When you were leaving at the end of the day you could call ahead and they would have your car waiting for you when you got to the garage.
johnnyhooper 07-10-2015, 11:43 AM 11065
"Wood" you like to check out this side entrance?
Looking good.
I can't figure out why there have been no office tenants signed for this building.
There is strong demand and little downtown vacancy, yet the only for-lease new construction in decades remains unleased?
I'm sure it has to do with SandRidge wanting to sell the building somehow, but something doesn't quite add up.
ChaseDweller 07-10-2015, 12:51 PM I think the leasing rate in this building is being hurt by uncertainty as to completion date and lack of associated parking.
Rover 07-10-2015, 12:56 PM I think the leasing rate in this building is being hurt by uncertainty as to completion date and lack of associated parking.
Coupled with a very soft crude oil and ng market
Just took this. I'll post more in the Kerr/Couch Parks thread but they are getting very close with those areas. Just finishing up the stonework and the plantings. Hopefully they'll be finished in the next month or so.
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/parkside092415.jpg
Couple more... This building is very impressive at street level.
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/parkside092415b.jpg
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/parkside092415c.jpg
Jared 09-29-2015, 08:51 AM Hey Pete, I just wanted to say thanks for taking all of the pics. I hope you had a great visit. Thanks again for everything you do.
Hey Pete, I just wanted to say thanks for taking all of the pics. I hope you had a great visit. Thanks again for everything you do.
+1 You don't get enough praise for the work you put into this site. Without you I would certainly be a lot less informed than I am now. I really appreciate everything you do!
5alive 09-29-2015, 11:01 AM ++1
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