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knightrider
05-02-2012, 08:09 AM
110 NW 10th (http://g.co/maps/mtb9k)
owner=Midtown Renaissance
10 apartments

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/marionwiki1.jpg
Information & Latest News
11/21/13: Hotel Marion getting new lease on life (http://m.newsok.com/downtown-oklahoma-city-survivor-getting-new-lease-on-life/article/3907156)
10/16/13: Filed application with Downtown Design Review (only admin. approval required)
10/3/13: Filed Building Pemit for $925,000

Design Review summary:

replace existing windows and exerior doors; install new facade at parapet; remove existing exitway/airshaft and enclose existing opening at south elevation; install quarts-zinc metal panel system cladding and cmu at south elevation; remove existing spiral fire escape at east elevation; install new concrete stairs, stoop, and railings at west elevation; install roof top clerestory glazing; install iron railing at front (north) entry
Links
County Assessor Record (http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/Searches/AN-R.asp?ACCOUNTNO=R010805510)
Discussion at OKC Central (http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2011/08/23/downtown-brainstorming-hotel-marion/)
Abandoned Oklahoma (http://www.abandonedok.com/the-marion/)
Gallery

Pete
05-02-2012, 08:23 AM
There is no parking associated with the Marion, so it's a bit of a toughie:


The partners say they're still struggling to figure out a solution to one property – the Marion Hotel at 110 NW 10. Empty for almost 30 years, the century-old building has a rotted wooden interior, separating brick exterior walls, a collapsed roof and is virtually landlocked between other buildings and public easements.

Howard worries that an effort by legislators to end historic tax credits will further complicate renovation efforts.

“It's a wonderful, wonderful old building,” Howard said. “We don't want to tear it down, and I'm not sure we would be allowed to tear it down.””


Read more: http://newsok.com/midtown-renaissance-moves-forward-with-more-housing-retail-possible-hotel/article/3589777#ixzz1tiazXk2h

betts
05-02-2012, 08:28 AM
I still say they should make it a boutique hotel with valet parking only. I've stayed at hotels in Boston, NYC and Chicago that have valet parking only. It will be just off the streetcar line, and there will likely be a stop at 10th, so I think it's an excellent solution to the parking problem.

BoulderSooner
05-02-2012, 08:32 AM
I still say they should make it a boutique hotel with valet parking only. I've stayed at hotels in Boston, NYC and Chicago that have valet parking only. It will be just off the streetcar line, and there will likely be a stop at 10th, so I think it's an excellent solution to the parking problem.

it would be a very very small ..hotel .... they thought the osler was too small so i doubt they will think that is viable

wschnitt
05-02-2012, 09:37 AM
How much parking would you need with such a small building?

Urbanized
05-02-2012, 05:46 PM
The flag on this thread is incorrect. Technically within the Automobile Alley boundary lines.

One of the other challenges with that building is the staircase, which is exceptionally beautiful, or at least it was when I toured the building 12-15 years ago. The problem is that the stairwell can't be enclosed easily/at all and wouldn't meet current fire code. I think that specifically causes issues with residential/hotel use, but I'm not a code expert.

wschnitt
05-02-2012, 09:42 PM
The staircase can be enclosed if they decide to not use historic tax credits, which they may use at the Cline Hotel as it has the incorrect windows.

UnFrSaKn
02-11-2013, 11:16 AM
The Marion | Abandoned Oklahoma (http://www.abandonedok.com/the-marion/)

Praedura
02-11-2013, 11:31 AM
The Marion | Abandoned Oklahoma (http://www.abandonedok.com/the-marion/)

Ugh. That's bad.

Ok, this would have to be a labor of love by someone with deep pockets.
:(

BoulderSooner
02-11-2013, 11:43 AM
Ugh. That's bad.

Ok, this would have to be a labor of love by someone with deep pockets.
:(

it was rolled into the TIF agreement with the buildings on the north east and north west corners of 10th and broadway .. and the parking garage going in across the street ...

it will be done in the next few years

JarrodH
02-11-2013, 02:57 PM
This could be a great addition to OKC. I could see someone like Charley Givens doing a ZaZa style hotel with this building.

Praedura
02-11-2013, 03:09 PM
it was rolled into the TIF agreement with the buildings on the north east and north west corners of 10th and broadway .. and the parking garage going in across the street ...

it will be done in the next few years

Great! That's good to hear.

I had no idea about the state of the interior until today. And the exterior is already a bit of a challenge. After I posted, I started thinking "well, maybe some neighborhood group in conjunction with some preservation funds might be up to the task". Certainly no single developer would want to touch that (without heavy incentives anyway) as they could make a better return somewhere else.

So that's good news. Despite it present condition, you can tell just how handsome that building will be when fully restored.

Praedura
02-11-2013, 03:12 PM
Thanks for the recent (October) pics Will. At least the windows have been boarded up, so that's progress of some kind.

Dang that building will be so awesome looking when finished.

BB37
02-28-2013, 10:45 PM
I don't know, it looks pretty far gone. Didn't realize it had an open courtyard.

Grant
03-01-2013, 01:48 AM
Who owns this building? My impression from the article is that the developer simply doesn't know what to do with this gem, but the story's nearly two years old. Is there any new information floating around? IMO, the best bet would be offices or apartments. It does seem a bit small for a hotel....even if that was its original function...

betts
03-01-2013, 07:45 AM
Who owns this building? My impression from the article is that the developer simply doesn't know what to do with this gem, but the story's nearly two years old. Is there any new information floating around? IMO, the best bet would be offices or apartments. It does seem a bit small for a hotel....even if that was its original function...

Midtown Renaissance owns it. And, I believe as a result of the permission they received from the city to construct a parking garage across the street, they will be required to renovate the Marion. Correct me if I'm wrong. I think it could function as a boutique hotel, especially since it has parking and is basically on the planned streetcar route. But, it could also be housing, which Midtown Renaissance has been so successful creating in the area.

Just the facts
03-01-2013, 08:29 AM
It does seem a bit small for a hotel....even if that was its original function...

Hotels when this opened are not the same as hotels today. A hotel like this back then was what we would call a studio apartment today. They were mostly rented by single men as their permanent residence.

sgt. pepper
03-01-2013, 01:36 PM
The plan right now....and yes there are plans on paper....is for it to be apartments.

Pete
09-25-2013, 09:29 AM
In this article, Steve mentions this building will be renovated into 10 apartments:

OKC Central: Oklahoma City downtown apartment boom continues | News OK (http://newsok.com/okc-central-oklahoma-city-downtown-apartment-boom-continues/article/3883618)

Praedura
09-25-2013, 09:39 AM
What a load of work.

This building will probably become a bit of a nightmare for MidtownR. Getting this thing structurally sound and then repurposed for modern tenants. But once done, assuming a quality job (which MR always seems to do), this will be a gem for the block. Such a handsome structure, and with such a history.

AP
09-25-2013, 05:00 PM
It seems like I read somewhere that MidtownR agreed to renovate Hotel Marion to get permission to build their parking garage across the street. Am I crazy, or is that true?

Pete
09-25-2013, 05:14 PM
It seems like I read somewhere that MidtownR agreed to renovate Hotel Marion to get permission to build their parking garage across the street. Am I crazy, or is that true?

The garage, 1100 & 1101 N Broadway and Hotel Marion were all part of a package deal to get TIF funds.

They are required to complete all within a couple of years to get the money.

AP
09-25-2013, 05:53 PM
The garage, 1100 & 1101 N Broadway and Hotel Marion were all part of a package deal to get TIF funds.

They are required to complete all within a couple of years to get the money.

OK, that makes sense.

dcsooner
10-04-2013, 11:25 AM
Tear that down !!

AP
10-04-2013, 11:27 AM
Tear that down !!

You're kidding, right?

BrettM2
10-04-2013, 11:42 AM
That is going to be such a beautiful building once they restore it. Probably my favorite building in OKC.

CuatrodeMayo
10-04-2013, 11:48 AM
This building will be a labor of love...not revenue.

Plutonic Panda
10-04-2013, 11:54 AM
She sure will look like a beauty, if restored.

Praedura
10-04-2013, 12:26 PM
I hope they hire a maid. Then I can call her Maid Marion.

(ok, that was dumb, even for me)

PhiAlpha
10-04-2013, 12:40 PM
She sure will look like a beauty, if restored.

Not if , when. It's a done deal. Unless of course midtown R doesn't want to build a parking garage or the building literally falls down before they begin work on it.

Plutonic Panda
10-04-2013, 05:07 PM
Not if , when. It's a done deal. Unless of course midtown R doesn't want to build a parking garage or the building literally falls down before they begin work on it.Awesome!!! Are there any timelines?

Teo9969
10-05-2013, 11:52 AM
Tear that down !!

:calvin2: :calvin2:

:banghead::banghead::banghead:

:Smiley297:fighting2:elmer3:

:dad::lame::dad:

Spartan
10-05-2013, 12:10 PM
Tear that down !!

Interesting considering you're always lamenting that OKC can never do anything right and that we're all too backward to help ourselves. Here you have a committed urban redeveloper that is doing something for the community despite the financial impracticality of this project in OKC.

I suspect this project will be more successful than anyone would forecast. That is what usually happens when you do things the right way, and this project will mark a tangible step toward creating The New OKC.

Praedura
10-05-2013, 12:26 PM
:calvin2: :calvin2:

:banghead::banghead::banghead:

:Smiley297:fighting2:elmer3:

:dad::lame::dad:

Heh.

Let me add,,,
:beaten_fi

kevinpate
10-05-2013, 05:05 PM
Smells like potential. Well, that and pigeon poop.

CaptDave
10-05-2013, 05:39 PM
That is going to be a tough one but if anyone has the track record to pull it off it would be MidtownR. I wonder if it might be more cost effective to disassemble - not demolish - the building and rebuild it rathrer than trying to shore up the structure? As Cuatro said, this one is definitely a labor of love and not a profit generating venture.

I didn't know about the spiral stairway on the back of the building. That is a neat feature - and now that I think of it - a reason the building would have to be renovated in place as is; and not disassembled and rebuilt. That is very likely not ADA compliant and would not be permitted to be installed again.

Urban Pioneer
10-06-2013, 08:21 AM
I think that is a fire escape and not the primary stairwell.

I do agree this is a disassemble / reassemble. Seen Fitzsimmons and nosing around in the alley so they must be getting ready!

Midtowner
10-06-2013, 08:57 AM
No permits so far. I'm skeptical that this will ever happen. I'd love to see that building used for something. Steve's blog from 2011 pointed out a lot of challenges they'll have to deal with in this project vs. what they dealt with at the Seiber. Does anyone know whether these renovations are really happening, or is this just something folks like to talk about?

PhiAlpha
10-06-2013, 09:35 AM
No permits so far. I'm skeptical that this will ever happen. I'd love to see that building used for something. Steve's blog from 2011 pointed out a lot of challenges they'll have to deal with in this project vs. what they dealt with at the Seiber. Does anyone know whether these renovations are really happening, or is this just something folks like to talk about?

It was an agreement midtown R made with the city to be allowed to build a garage across the street. They are renovating 1100 and 1101 N broadway as part of the deal as well. I imagine they are just doing those two first as they have started work on one and have just permitted the other.

Urban Pioneer
10-06-2013, 12:26 PM
Like I said, the architects have been out there quite a bit studying the place. They may have to tear the place apart brick by brick, but perhaps thats ok to get the garage financing.

Plus, I do believe that they want to be good neighborhood benefactors. Restoring that buildung would mean a great deal to many people. Perhaps a loss on that building is justified in the garage project.

Cocaine
10-06-2013, 01:49 PM
If this is restored I hope they keep the same bricks. Nothin worse than restoring a building and putting in new bricks.

Spartan
10-06-2013, 06:07 PM
No permits so far. I'm skeptical that this will ever happen. I'd love to see that building used for something. Steve's blog from 2011 pointed out a lot of challenges they'll have to deal with in this project vs. what they dealt with at the Seiber. Does anyone know whether these renovations are really happening, or is this just something folks like to talk about?

Mid - The TIF financing package with two other projects is contingent on the Marion rehab, which will also receive TIF financing. They positioned the new 10th Street parking garage directly across the street from the Marion.

MidtownR deserves all the credit of course, but don't forget that the city and Alliance have been doing a great job of assisting projects from start to finish. The TIFs have turned the tide and generated the critical mass needed to create a downtown real estate market that can support massive developments independent of TIFs (The Metropolitan, etc) and riskier endeavors like the Hotel Marion.

BoulderSooner
10-06-2013, 10:10 PM
If they don't renovate the Marion. They don't get the tif dollars

Pete
10-07-2013, 08:22 AM
No permits so far. I'm skeptical that this will ever happen. I'd love to see that building used for something. Steve's blog from 2011 pointed out a lot of challenges they'll have to deal with in this project vs. what they dealt with at the Seiber. Does anyone know whether these renovations are really happening, or is this just something folks like to talk about?

They applied for a $925,000 building permit on 10/3/13 (last Thursday).

warreng88
10-07-2013, 08:45 AM
I can only assume they are going to have to do the same thing that is being done on the Rock Island Plow Building where they will build a supporting structure inside the existing structure. There is no way the walls on that building can support what is going to happen with the renovation. The whole southside spiral staircase area will probably have to be torn out and whatever can be saved would be used later. Are they allowed to change the exterior in any way? Can they add windows to the south side of the building where they used to be?

AP
10-07-2013, 08:52 AM
Regardless of what they have to do to renovate, I think we can all agree that when it is finished it will be an absolute gem. A huge win for Midtown.

Pete
10-07-2013, 08:55 AM
Suddenly, that entire area is going to be crazy with construction activity:

1101 Broadway under renovation
1100 & Marion starting any day
Auto Alley Parking Garage soon to begin construction

warreng88
10-07-2013, 09:23 AM
Suddenly, that entire area is going to be crazy with construction activity:

1101 Broadway under renovation
1100 & Marion starting any day
Auto Alley Parking Garage soon to begin construction

I hadn't heard this one. You are not talking about the parking garage across the street from the Marion, are you?

Pete
10-07-2013, 09:24 AM
Yes, that's the one.

Technically, it's in Auto Alley. Don't think they've named as of yet.

warreng88
10-07-2013, 09:52 AM
Yes, that's the one.

Technically, it's in Auto Alley. Don't think they've named as of yet.

Ok, thanks for the clarification. I was thinking there would be another parking garage going in on Broadway in some of those other empty lots south of here.

Spartan
10-07-2013, 11:15 AM
Ok, thanks for the clarification. I was thinking there would be another parking garage going in on Broadway in some of those other empty lots south of here.

Some day that would seem inevitable now that the streetcar will be going through N Broadway. Those empty lots will become more desirable for infill and parking garages along the streetcar will allow it to function better as a people mover.

Garin
10-24-2013, 10:45 PM
Lingo const. Is putting the budget together now I've had a prelimanery set of plans for a week now

betts
10-25-2013, 09:39 AM
Lingo const. Is putting the budget together now I've had a prelimanery set of plans for a week now

The garage or the hotel?

Pete
10-25-2013, 09:47 AM
I added the design review summary to the article at the top of the page.

Should have renderings soon.

Garin
10-25-2013, 10:10 AM
Hotel only so far.

betts
10-25-2013, 10:17 AM
I'm more excited about the hotel right now. But when the streetcar is running, the garage will be great for people who want to park and spend a day or evening downtown.

Praedura
10-25-2013, 10:38 AM
Lingo const. Is putting the budget together now I've had a prelimanery set of plans for a week now

Cool. I'm wondering what the mood is there regarding this renovation: excitement for such a challenging project, or dread at having to deal with such a dilapidated old structure.

OKCisOK4me
10-25-2013, 10:46 AM
Cool. I'm wondering what the mood is there regarding this renovation: excitement for such a challenging project, or dread at having to deal with such a dilapidated old structure.

Man, I sure hope it's the former!

Pete
10-25-2013, 11:08 AM
I'm sure Lingo is thrilled to get the business, especially with the SandRidge projects winding down and the likelihood that won't be doing much more after the Parkside Building.

Lingo has done all the renovation work on the SR Tower, the Braniff Building, the plaza, etc.

Pete
11-15-2013, 10:42 AM
Here are the latest plans submitted to the Downtown Design Review Committee for their meeting next week:



http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/urban-development-buildings/4498d1380119513-marion-marion11.jpg


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