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Pete
04-12-2012, 08:54 PM
1315 Broadway Pl. (http://goo.gl/maps/GkYds) (near 13th/Broadway Ave.)
owner=Midtown Renaissance
cost=Purchase total $500,000; renovations total $1,500,000
contractor=Lingo Construction
18 residential units

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/mayfairwiki1.jpg
Information & Latest News
10/20/12: Mayfair Building to become apartments (http://newsok.com/mayfair-building-in-oklahoma-city-is-added-to-national-register-of-historic-places/article/3720622)
4/12/12: $1.5 million building permit to convert existing office structure to 18 residential units.

Links
County Assessor Record (http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/Searches/AN-R.asp?ACCOUNTNO=R040047200)
Gallery

Fantastic
04-12-2012, 09:01 PM
Thank you so much for staying on top of things like this, Pete!!! This sounds like an awsome development

betts
04-12-2012, 09:18 PM
Great location and right on the streetcar line.

CCOKC
04-12-2012, 10:59 PM
Does anyone know the history of this building?

Just the facts
04-13-2012, 08:03 AM
Cha-ching - another Thunder money ball. At this rate we will be out of old buildings soon (of course that is because we didn't have much inventory to start with). Get the existing structures converted, build on open lots, and then things can start going vertical.

Pete
04-13-2012, 08:26 AM
Does anyone know the history of this building?

This is from the Oklahoma Historical Society archives.

It was built as apartments in 1929 but more recently had been office space; up until last year it was opened and used by the United Way of Central Oklahoma.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/1315broadwayold.jpg

Spartan
04-13-2012, 03:29 PM
Oh yeah. Another good-sized win. We're just really cranking through new development announcements lately...

It is my assumption that this project won't require a ton of finish-out.

Pete
04-13-2012, 08:24 PM
I believe they may be adding to it -- the building permit wasn't clear.

metro
04-13-2012, 08:58 PM
Wasn't this the old United Way HQ?

Pete
04-13-2012, 09:56 PM
Yes. They sold it about a year ago.

CuatrodeMayo
04-14-2012, 08:31 AM
I believe they may be adding to it -- the building permit wasn't clear.

The building is structurally capable of one to two additional stories above the existing, so it is likely they are adding additional square footage in the vertical direction.

Spartan
04-15-2012, 03:38 PM
It's very interesting that Clagg and Howard have been very bullish on pursuing building expansion whenever they can within a historic preservation context. It makes sense considering that larger footprints yield more income and potential profit, but it's also a very interesting testimony in how deep they believe the market is for their high-quality rental units.

Pete
04-15-2012, 03:56 PM
They have been leasing out their projects as soon as -- or even before -- they are finished and getting good rents.

They also know much more about the cost of renovating / converting these structures and what they can expect to get back for income.

I hope they continue to acquire properties -- everything they have done has been first class.

wschnitt
04-16-2012, 11:05 AM
They have been leasing out their projects as soon as -- or even before -- they are finished and getting good rents.

They also know much more about the cost of renovating / converting these structures and what they can expect to get back for income.

I hope they continue to acquire properties -- everything they have done has been first class.

I must disagree. The buildings at 1100 and 1101 Broadway seem pretty empty. I look forward to the day when all of the currently under used buildings in midtown are redeveloped and its time to build brand new ones.

Pete
04-16-2012, 11:17 AM
I meant their apartments were leased, not the office space.

Spartan
04-16-2012, 11:51 AM
I must disagree. The buildings at 1100 and 1101 Broadway seem pretty empty. I look forward to the day when all of the currently under used buildings in midtown are redeveloped and its time to build brand new ones.

Those are both properties they've been all too happy to keep on the back-burner, though. I'm not even sure what the deal is with 1100 but the deal they have there with OKC Cityscape is too cool, each time the legos go up on the facade. Maybe they're trying to find a way to make that a permanent installation.

Pete
04-16-2012, 12:06 PM
I think they are just taking a few projects at a time, knocking them out, then moving on.

When they put their focus on something, it gets done, gets done right and seems to fill very quickly.

I hope they acquire more because they are going to run out of properties to remodel very soon.

Patrick
04-16-2012, 01:07 PM
Great project, just horrible name. When I think of Mayfair, I think of the area around NW 50th and May Avenue.

BoulderSooner
04-16-2012, 01:13 PM
Great project, just horrible name. When I think of Mayfair, I think of the area around NW 50th and May Avenue.

"horrible name" ...

really ??

Pete
04-16-2012, 01:18 PM
Mayfair Apartments is the original name given back in 1929.

Patrick
04-16-2012, 01:43 PM
"horrible name" ...

really ??


It's not that the name is horrible, just putting the name with the location.

But, if what Pete says is true, I can see why they're going with that name.

Larry OKC
04-16-2012, 01:50 PM
Historically correct but can be confusing now that Mayfair shopping center at 50th & May has been there for decades. At least we only had to deal with the confusion of the Newcastle Ballpark for a day. LOL

Just the facts
04-16-2012, 01:52 PM
Both were probably named after Mayfair in Westminster (greater London) - with a little May Ave play on words. The Mayfair shopping center developer probably thought he was being clever. I'll try to resist commenting further on identifying a location in OKC by referencing the name of the local strip shopping center.

Patrick
04-16-2012, 02:00 PM
Both were probably named after Mayfair in Westminster (greater London) - with a little May Ave play on words. The Mayfair shopping center developer probably thought he was being clever. I'll try to resist commenting further on identifying a location in OKC by referencing the name of the local strip shopping center.

Well, again, not sure whether the Mayfair Village strip shopping center should be the primary focal point, or the Mayfair Heights Housing addition that is to the east of it and the Mayfair West Neighborhood addition to the west. I'm guessing it was all developed around the same time. Sorta like the Belle Isle neighborhood, or any other addition for that matter.

Architect2010
04-16-2012, 09:16 PM
I meant their apartments were leased, not the office space.

This is a little off-topic, but I wish they had reconsidered those locations for residential. I could have sworn I've seen plans on the AHMM website for the smaller of the two buildings, 1100 and 1101, that were for residential conversion and retail/office.

mcca7596
04-16-2012, 10:01 PM
I could have sworn I've seen plans on the AHMM website for the smaller of the two buildings, 1100 and 1101, that were for residential conversion and retail/office.

There were; I posted them on here and then they got taken down. I assume that it will be one of their last conversions of the current group of buildings they own.

soonerguru
06-11-2012, 08:21 AM
This is a little off-topic, but I wish they had reconsidered those locations for residential. I could have sworn I've seen plans on the AHMM website for the smaller of the two buildings, 1100 and 1101, that were for residential conversion and retail/office.

Agree completely. I've been told parking is an issue for residential there, but the property on the northwest corner of 10th and Broadway is the prototypical loft building in OKC. It is fabulous. I actually believe it could work as owner-occupied residential because the building is probably the best loft property in Oklahoma County.

Spartan
06-11-2012, 12:32 PM
If they build a parking garage in that area, as they are talking about, perhaps that changes..

UnFrSaKn
10-20-2012, 04:08 AM
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/UnFrSaKn/Old%20Oklahoma%20City/Mayfair%20Apartments/21412M5040BarneyHillermanCollection-Photographs-Box9MAYFAIRAPARTMENTS1315BROADWAYPLACEOKLAHOMACITY LEONARDMEDERACCTPHOTOBYMEYERSPHOTOSHOPFeb1.jpg

February 1952

http://newsok.com/mayfair-building-in-oklahoma-city-is-added-to-national-register-of-historic-places/article/3720622/?page=1

Mayfair Building in Oklahoma City is added to National Register of Historic Places

The Mayfair, once home to some of Oklahoma City's wealthiest residents, is being added to the National Register of Historic Places as it awaits a renovation that will restore it as an apartment building.

StreetView (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=1315+N+Broadway+Place&hl=en&ll=35.481693,-97.514766&spn=0.005093,0.011533&sll=35.481904,-97.515090&layer=c&cbp=13,287.51,,0,-2.04&cbll=35.481786,-97.514766&hnear=1315+N+Broadway+Pl,+Oklahoma+City,+Oklahoma, +73103&t=h&z=17&panoid=GR6NEFCi1-gr8WvrOFziOw)

UnFrSaKn
10-20-2012, 09:00 AM
I searched for a thread for this before posting and didn't see this, sorry.

Pete
10-20-2012, 09:02 AM
No worries! Thanks for posting the article.

Really look forward to the MidtownR team working their magic here.

tpg4635
07-18-2013, 10:08 PM
Porta potty is outside and LINGO construction sign is posted on door. I've noticed workers coming in and out over the past week! Looks like contruction is about to get started. 4150

Pete
07-18-2013, 10:25 PM
Thanks for the update!

I had been wondering about this project...

There was a $1.5 million building permit issued way back in April 2012.


Looking forward to the Midtown Renaissance people working their rehab magic!

UnFrSaKn
07-18-2013, 10:44 PM
Mayfair Apartments (July 9 2013) - a set on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/williamhider/sets/72157634615426208/)

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5531/9269974685_05c247ffa5_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7368/9269975751_47cf9f7be6_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3683/9269860163_22a824d8c3_b.jpg

HangryHippo
07-19-2013, 09:54 AM
Man, I'm way behind. They already renovated these? Those windows are hideous.

BoulderSooner
07-19-2013, 10:02 AM
Man, I'm way behind. They already renovated these? Those windows are hideous.

nope just started

HangryHippo
07-19-2013, 10:23 AM
nope just started

Excellent! New windows are coming then?

BoulderSooner
07-19-2013, 10:39 AM
Excellent! New windows are coming then?

i believe they are applying for Historic tax credits for this project so the windows should be replaced ..

Pete
07-19-2013, 10:44 AM
I haven't seen anything come through design review on this project, which will still have to happen if they change anything on the outside, and you know they will.

So, I suspect what is happening there is just interior cleanup. They can't start in earnest until the get the proper approvals; in fact the original building permit filed over a year ago is still pending due to this issue.

Spartan
07-19-2013, 05:07 PM
Is this project part of the most recent TIF package?

Pete
08-16-2013, 10:32 AM
Application filed today for design review to be formally heard on 9/19.

MidtownR is really rolling now:


This project
Fassler Hall / Dust Bowl just sent to design review
1101 Broadway under construction -- awesome new sign coming
New garage west of 1101 getting ready to start
1100 & Hotel Marion waiting in the wings
Large residential project at NE corner of 10th & Hudson in the planning stages




**************

replace existing windows all elevations; install new exit door at west elevation; install new sidewalk at exit door at west elevation; remove existing pavers at southwest corner; remove existing paving behind structure to west; remove existing planting beds and install landscaping west of existing sidewalk at street frontage; install landscaping and irrigation (?) within site and within Streetscape Zone;

Pete
09-13-2013, 11:51 AM
New renderings:



http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/mayfair10.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/mayfair10a.jpg



http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/mayfair11.jpg



http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/mayfair12.jpg



http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/mayfair13.jpg

BoulderSooner
09-13-2013, 01:15 PM
very cool ...

Pete
09-13-2013, 01:16 PM
Should end up looking very similar to the Cline and Hadden Hall, both of which is complete gems, inside and out.

TechArch
09-13-2013, 04:42 PM
Pete - the windows don't indicate if they are operable or not. Do you know?

Pete
09-13-2013, 04:48 PM
Pete - the windows don't indicate if they are operable or not. Do you know?

The specs show a good number of them will be swing-out casement types.

Urbanized
09-13-2013, 05:59 PM
Amazing that they are restoring casements to the building. Makes me all tingly. It will be a rare instance where there will be modern color photo comparisons between ugly, single-pane tinted windows and casements in perfect shape. Hopefully it will become an example that can be used to discourage the removal of historic casements (and encourage refurbishment), thought there are regrettably very few of those battles here left to be waged.

Pete
09-13-2013, 06:02 PM
I believe the windows with the diamond shapes are all swing-out casements:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/mayfair10a.jpg

Garin
10-25-2013, 03:54 PM
Will be starting work on this project really soon.

Garin
10-25-2013, 03:55 PM
Amazing that they are restoring casements to the building. Makes me all tingly. It will be a rare instance where there will be modern color photo comparisons between ugly, single-pane tinted windows and casements in perfect shape. Hopefully it will become an example that can be used to discourage the removal of historic casements (and encourage refurbishment), thought there are regrettably very few of those battles here left to be waged.


They are not keeping the original windows, they will be replaced with new units.

soonerhcf
10-25-2013, 04:04 PM
They are not keeping the original windows, they will be replaced with new units.

Judging from UnFrSaKn's pics, the building's current windows appear to be a storefront-type, which are definitely not the original windows. It seems that are replacing those ugly storefront windows with new casement windows that match the profiles of the historic windows. I betcha that's expensive.

Garin
10-25-2013, 04:12 PM
They will be a new aluminum casement with false muntin to give the appearance of old steel casements without the cost associated with the real deal.

Jeepnokc
10-25-2013, 05:15 PM
Still not cheap though. When we changed our windows to add in the false muntin at 600 west Sheridan...it added 30k to our window cost. (2 story 6500 sq ft building) They do look better and you still get the high efficiency window. Also, easier to clean if they are false muntin built in the middle.

Urbanized
10-26-2013, 11:28 AM
They are not keeping the original windows, they will be replaced with new units.
Uhh..that's exactly what I said. The current windows are 1980s-era abominations; single-pane, tinted glass. The ORIGINAL windows on the building were casements. Therefore, "they are RESTORING CASEMENTS TO THE BUILDING".

Urbanized
10-26-2013, 11:31 AM
They will be a new aluminum casement with false muntin to give the appearance of old steel casements without the cost associated with the real deal.
Well, that changes things a little bit then. Still a substantial improvement, but authentic casements would have been better. All you have to do is check out The Guardian to see what authentic, operational casements do for a historic structure.

Pete
10-26-2013, 11:43 AM
Well, that changes things a little bit then. Still a substantial improvement, but authentic casements would have been better. All you have to do is check out The Guardian to see what authentic, operational casements do for a historic structure.

But those were already in place at the Guardian, weren't they?

This project had been retro-fitted with new style windows that now have to be replaced.

Garin
10-26-2013, 12:09 PM
But those were already in place at the Guardian, weren't they?

This project had been retro-fitted with new style windows that now have to be replaced.

Yes they were original to the building.

Garin
10-26-2013, 12:12 PM
Steel casements would have been over 1 million for Mayfair versus 200k for aluminum..... I would hate to live anywhere that had single pane steel casement windows unless all the utilities were being paid by someone else.

Urbanized
10-26-2013, 02:35 PM
Pete, you are correct that they were original at the Guardian. Garin, nobody said single pane windows. That is a red herring. There are modern casements (and restoration techniques for old casements) that retrofit insulated glass and bring energy efficiency to levels comparable with modern windows.

However, I understand that the purchase of new casements might have been cost-prohibitive and made the numbers unworkable. This only makes a stronger case for NEVER removing the original casement windows from a histrionic structure in the first place.

Garin
10-27-2013, 12:29 PM
That is a red herring. There are modern casements (and restoration techniques for old casements) that retrofit insulated glass and bring energy efficiency to levels comparable with modern windows.

This only makes a stronger case for NEVER removing the original casement windows from a histrionic structure in the first place.[/QUOTE]

I've never understood why replacement windows are frowned upon if they bring the home up to modern standards , while keeping with the historic look. Ig glass only does so much , steel casements from the teens were not made to keep air out or be efficient these we're just the best that was available at the time. The same case can be made in areas where wood windows with single pane glass are only allowed, You can get windows that are still made with all wood with insulated glass that are efficient and seal tight and keep air out. Heck they can even make retro glass that still has the texture of old. Todays steel casements can have thermal broken frames and weatherstrip to boot. This is one of those odd little situations where those that scream for the green movement aren't willing to budge when it makes since. I'm only advocating for accurate replications not cheap alternatives the building or home should be put back together using the correct products.