In the Journal Record it did state that one of the restaurants would have an enclosed patio. Not sure what that means exactly. Maybe big sliding glass doors, garage doors open...?
Am guessing but think it is probably along the lines of Toby Keith's patio, originally it was open air but someone said it is now enclosed???

Hogan may be a total scumbag, and his lower Bricktown development is total crap, but he's honestly the only person who has succeeded in selling downtown condos in OKC.

He's also one of the few who was given free land to build them on.

This isn't bad. I am actually pleasantly surprised here.

You're pleasantly surprised with a 1 level strip mall that could be found anywhere along May Ave? This really doesn't look much different from the strip building on the west side of the Belle Isle Station Shopping Center! LOL!

This isn't bad. I am actually pleasantly surprised here.

I'd love to hear why you consider this a pleasant surprise, and why it may exceed whatever expectations you may have had.

Am guessing but think it is probably along the lines of Toby Keith's patio, originally it was open air but someone said it is now enclosed???

The new KD's branded eatery and TK's eatery are to be operated by the same group. TK's formerly open patio has been enclosed. It's not real surprising the same operating group would begin with an enclosed patio at their place next door.

The real surprise would be if, having gone to the trouble/expense to enclose the patio at TK, they would have decided an open patio next door made sense to them.

I'd love to hear why you consider this a pleasant surprise, and why it may exceed whatever expectations you may have had.

It has brick.

Now I have some concerns that they're talking about Aspen being their architectural inspiration (I didn't realize pad sites required distant architectural inspiration??) which is very concerning for BRICKTOWN.

But just as a heads up, I'm pretty much taking back my "not bad" earlier assessment. This is actually pretty bad, but again, what else do you expect for LB? The entire development, sans Sonic and Centennial, is a carbon copy of anything along Memorial.

Careful, OKC is in love with fake brick. It might not actually be laid brick. =)

:whiteflag
Can you point me to a "fake brick" project in the downtown area?

Can you point me to a "fake brick" project in the downtown area?

I believe part of Harkins exterior concrete walls had a brick pattern stamped on it and is painted red. That is what I would assume he's talking about.

Interestingly, this depiction here from AHMM has them depicting this as one of their 12 projects in OKC...

http://archpaper.com/uploads/file/OKC-Map-600.jpg

Can you point me to a "fake brick" project in the downtown area?

The Chesapeake Arena has 90 % fake brick doesn't it ...?

To clarify:

The vast majority of the buildings and homes in our city are constructed with brick veneer. Brick veneer is full-depth brick laid piece by piece and tied with masonry anchors to the building. It is one of the most durable and long-lasting exterior finish material available. Since it can also be relatively economical, it is a popular exterior material. "Fake" brick is what would be called thin brick. It is only 1/2" thick and is installed like tile on a mastic. Many older buildings in Bricktown are actually constructed of structual brick masonry. Structural brick masonry consists of 2 or more layers or "wythes" of brick. For various reasons, structural brick masonry is rarely ever used.

Can you point me to a "fake brick" project in the downtown area?

I think the first floor of the parking garage is fake brick as well.

To clarify:
Many older buildings in Bricktown are actually constructed of structual brick masonry. Structural brick masonry consists of 2 or more layers or "wythes" of brick. For various reasons, structural brick masonry is rarely ever used.

Is this why my 1920s brick house has a crazy high replacement cost estimate?

It's doubtful that your 1920s house was build using structural brick masonry. Brick veneer was the preferred choice even at that point. At one time I owned a 1927 G.A. Nichols home in Gatewood that used...brick veneer.

If the cost to replace brick on your home was exceptional, it was probably due to the type of brick and/or mortar used. The bricks and mortar we use today is considerably different in size, material and often color/texture, making it difficult (expensive) to match old brick.

Anybody see the cover of 2k13? *hint* *hint* *hintity* *hint* *hint*. Any news on te resturaunt

Interestingly, this depiction here from AHMM has them depicting this as one of their 12 projects in OKC...

http://archpaper.com/uploads/file/OKC-Map-600.jpg

Will you give a link for this image? I want to look at it.

According to our server at Toby Keiths, they were told that the servers will be working in all of the restaurants and not tied to a particular one.

According to our server at Toby Keiths, they were told that the servers will be working in all of the restaurants and not tied to a particular one.

by "all" ... do you mean both?

Is everyone 100% sure that Kevin Durant's restaurant is still going as planned? I have reason to believe this project might be put on hold.

by "all" ... do you mean both?

I don't know for sure, someone had posted (and confirmed by the server) that the building is going to house 2 restaurants, so the when he said "all" it meant the 3 of them.

Will you give a link for this image? I want to look at it.

http://archpaper.com/news/articles.asp?id=4978

Do they even have permit yet?! This is taking a while

This isn't inside information, but I would imagine that this project is going to take longer due to Red Rock on the Lake burning down.

This isn't inside information, but I would imagine that this project is going to take longer due to Red Rock on the Lake burning down.

doubt that has anything to do with it .. HSRG is building a bunch a places at once ..

Kevin Durant Restaurant Soon to Become a Reality | OKC Central (http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2012/09/12/kevin-durant-restaurant-soon-to-become-a-reality/)

Although doesn't mention a start/open date, Steve does provide an update for this project.

A lot of Kevin Durant fans were excited when I broke news earlier this year that the Thunder star was preparing to open a restaurant in Lower Bricktown.

With all due respect to Steve, he didn't "break" this story; we did here on OKCTalk.

Glad to see this project is still moving forward.

With all due respect to Steve, he didn't "break" this story; we did here on OKCTalk.

Glad to see this project is still moving forward.

You don't think Steve can take credit for one story in exchange for his participation on the forums?

Just setting the record straight.

And this forum is a two-way street for Steve, the Journal Record, the Gazette, etc. They get lots of information, story ideas and traffic from here, I can assure you.

Steve had a huge break this week alone, and he has been the go-to guy for breaking news downtown for over a decade now. Nobody in their right mind would discredit the guy.

Sigh.
Language changed.
"A lot of Kevin Durant fans were excited when I was the first to get official confirmation earlier this year that the Thunder star was preparing to open a restaurant in Lower Bricktown."
I will acknowledge, and do acknowledge, when stories are inspired by posts at OKC Talk. This story was not one of them. I was chasing the Kevin Durant restaurant story early on.... I'm not looking to get into a flame war or debate on this.

No reason to get testy over me simply stating something that is 100% true.

And I never said this story was inspired by OKCTalk, just that we were first to break the news.


We should be able to have these exchanges without using terms like "flame war". I purposely only posted this here and not on OKCCentral, Twitter or FB.

Hopefully they spent the extra time coming up with a better design. Otherwise it will just get added to the other junk that will need to bulldozed in the future.

Steve actually genuinely enjoys crediting OKC Talk when he feels it appropriate from what I've seen. Everybody loves the credible engagement, few places have resources like OKC Talk or Steve.

No reason to get testy over me simply stating something that is 100% true.

And I never said this story was inspired by OKCTalk, just that we were first to break the news.


We should be able to have these exchanges without using terms like "flame war". I purposely only posted this here and not on OKCCentral, Twitter or FB.

What Pete said.

No reason to get testy over me simply stating something that is 100% true.

And I never said this story was inspired by OKCTalk, just that we were first to break the news.


We should be able to have these exchanges without using terms like "flame war". I purposely only posted this here and not on OKCCentral, Twitter or FB.

Not testy. Just tired. This is one of those days where tones and intent are lost on the keyboard. I never meant a slam on you or the site. But I worked very hard to get the story verified, and then I got ripped off repeatedly by tv news who did none of their own work on this. So then, well, hell .... I'm not mad or upset with you. I hope you're not mad or upset with me.

Steve, you know no one respects you more than me.

I'm one of the few people that understands how hard you work and what goes into what you do.


I'm also proud of OKCTalk and want to make sure the site is given due credit, similar to how you fight for your own work and that of your colleagues.

I want to see OKC Talk thrive as well and you know I value it's role in our community. So why are we at odds here? Let's move on and talk about whether anyone thinks this building design would go through if it didn't have Durant's name attached....

I sure as hell don't think it would cut the mustard. However, I feel that way about every building in Lower Bricktown except for the Centennial, so...

The only thing I REALLY care about here is that James Harden is named honorary General Manager of the restaurant and paid around $5 million per year for his role.

Perhaps so he can "SETTLE" for $10 mil a year and keep us away from luxury tax territory?? ; )

I would never admit to such chicanery.

Perhaps so he can "SETTLE" for $10 mil a year and keep us away from luxury tax territory?? ; )

I dont think there is any way we can resign Harden without getting into the luxory tax territory. Lets hope our owners decide its worth it.

I dont think there is any way we can resign Harden without getting into the luxory tax territory. Lets hope our owners decide its worth it.

This is true, but that is assuming we don't make other changes via amnesty or trades. I think that management is planning on paying some of the luxury tax, but they're trying to minimize it. I still think Harden gets signed, Perkins gets amnestied, Maynor gets let go, and the rest of the roster remains dirt cheap for the foreseeable future... Sorry. Way off topic.

I hope they don't just make it a wall on the south side of the building considering it will be ground level with the new boulevard.

I hope they don't just make it a wall on the south side of the building considering it will be ground level with the new boulevard.

the south side will NOT be ground level with the new BLVD the BLVD will be above ground bridge getting ready to link up with I235 in this area ..

the south side will NOT be ground level with the new BLVD the BLVD will be above ground bridge getting ready to link up with I235 in this area ..

It's not like it matters. There is quite a buffer of parking separating the two.

I fully expect this building to follow the Toby Keith model and have the main entrance facing the parking lot and treat the canal frontage as an afterthought.

the south side will NOT be ground level with the new BLVD the BLVD will be above ground bridge getting ready to link up with I235 in this area ..

According to some of the ODOT progress maps the boulevard is intended to be at ground level near Joe Carter Ave.

I am excited to see a restaurant from Kevin Durant and something to fill this hole, but I am disappointed in the design. However, it matches the rest of the area of Lower Bricktown - suburban in nature that happens to be along a canal.

the south side will NOT be ground level with the new BLVD the BLVD will be above ground bridge getting ready to link up with I235 in this area ..

The new boulevard is an above ground bridge over the canal and then will come down to ground level just to the west of the canal crossing. It may be cutting it close and there may even be some kind of landscaping berm between the building and the road. Who knows, just saying, it'd be worth it not to have to look at the back side of a building when you're looking over at the Brick from the Boulevard since we're looking at a different perspective in this new future.

Here are the final plans for the Kevin Durant restaurant plus one other restaurant space:




http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/durant1.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/durant2.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/durant3.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/durant4.jpg

Thank goodness they finally steered that fictional elderly couple away from the canal!

have to wonder if the other spot will be an upper crust ..

A slender and small patio on half of the building....what a pathetic use of prime canal frontage. An absolute joke

Just terrible. How can people who do this for a living be so bad at it? Why would you not have your business interact with the canal more?!? A huge patio would likely be a hit!

Hogan continues to disappoint. I seriously don't understand his ineptitude here.

The other tenent will have no patio at all.

Pathetic waste of land...

Keep this thread in mind when thinking about how you want the new boulevard developed. Do you want a parkway or an urban street?

As for this abomination, there won't be many protest when they have to scrape this area clear in 20 years.

A slender and small patio on half of the building....what a pathetic use of prime canal frontage. An absolute joke

Randy Hogan has to be the most boring, unimaginative person in OKC. Your statement is an understatement. I guess it's infill though.

I agree Metro - as bad as it is, atleast it takes up some vacant space.