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04-13-2012, 03:42 PM
Was anyone aware that it is Friday the 13th?
View Full Version : Oklahoma Severe Weather Discussion - April 2012 Thunder 04-13-2012, 03:42 PM Was anyone aware that it is Friday the 13th? MikeOKC 04-13-2012, 03:45 PM Was anyone aware that it is Friday the 13th? Yes, Thunder. On our man-made calendars it is indeed the 13th and it's Friday. Meanwhile... Thunder 04-13-2012, 03:50 PM Yes, Thunder. On our man-made calendars it is indeed the 13th and it's Friday. Meanwhile... Hi Mike! Haven't seen you in a while. Hope you're in a safe place! The front storm approaching the metro is going up and down. The hook get tightened up then fall apart. Got to watch it carefully. The tornado threat just increased for the next few hours. We still got storms out behind the front storm. Thunder 04-13-2012, 03:58 PM SPOTTER REPORT - Increasing rotating wall clouds NW of Norman. Be on alert. Thunder 04-13-2012, 04:00 PM tornado warning the national weather service in norman has issued a * tornado warning for... Cleveland county in south central oklahoma... * until 430 pm cdt * at 355 pm cdt...national weather service meteorologists detected a severe thunderstorm capable of producing a tornado. This dangerous storm was located near newcastle...moving east at 25 mph. * locations impacted include... Norman...stella and lake thunderbird. Read more: http://livewire.koco.com/event/live_wire_tracking_oklahoma_storms_april_12#ixzz1r xmokvwu KFOR is showing a very large tornado on the ground in Norman. MikeOKC 04-13-2012, 04:04 PM SPOTTER REPORT - Increasing rotating wall clouds NW of Norman. Be on alert. They all seem to really be worried about tomorrow - they're comparing it to the Alabama outbreaks. It gets old hearing "perfect storm" with every severe outbreak though. Thunder 04-13-2012, 04:10 PM They all seem to really be worried about tomorrow - they're comparing it to the Alabama outbreaks. It gets old hearing "perfect storm" with every severe outbreak though. You're right. Each outbreak are unique. Large tornado reported right now at Highway 9 and I-35. In the path are OU, NWS, Airport, and the town. adaniel 04-13-2012, 04:14 PM Just got home and traffic everywhere is dreadful. Broadway Extension is a parking lot leaving downtown. Got a text from a friend who has gone about a mile in the past 20 minutes on 44 northbound near 10th. SSEiYah 04-13-2012, 04:14 PM Severe weather statement national weather service norman ok 411 pm cdt fri apr 13 2012 …a tornado warning remains in effect until 430 pm cdt for cleveland county… at 409 pm cdt…national weather service meteorologists detected a severe thunderstorm capable of producing a tornado. this dangerous storm was located near norman…moving east at 25 mph. Thunder 04-13-2012, 04:22 PM Power Outages http://public.oge.com/systemwatch/ I am unable to view any of the maps properly. They are all showing too tiny on screen without a way to enlarge, so I am unable to post the info. Rusty McCranie -- NWS says they believe the circulation broadened and stopped right at about Norman Regional Hospital by Ryan Welton / Hearst Staff 4:18 PM Read more: http://livewire.koco.com/Event/Live_Wire_Tracking_Oklahoma_Storms_April_12#ixzz1r xRE5NKm Roadhawg 04-13-2012, 04:57 PM My, my. I will let you guys know when it gets here. Should be in about 25 minutes if Channel Nine is right. You OK? ZYX2 04-13-2012, 04:58 PM Norman has significant damage right now it appears. I'm thankful it wasn't bigger. Roadhawg 04-13-2012, 05:03 PM Norman has significant damage right now it appears. I'm thankful it wasn't bigger. Any news on any injuries? ZYX2 04-13-2012, 05:06 PM I haven't heard any. KJRH in Tulsa is reporting there is no damage. Video seems to disprove that. Thunder 04-13-2012, 05:09 PM There were reported injuries, but those are not clear yet. Tornado Warning in Potts county right now. People in Shawnee, be ready! THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NORMAN HAS ISSUED A * TORNADO WARNING FOR... POTTAWATOMIE COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL OKLAHOMA... * UNTIL 530 PM CDT * AT 500 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO. THIS DANGEROUS STORM WAS LOCATED NEAR PINK...MOVING EAST AT 25 MPH. * LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE... SHAWNEE...TECUMSEH...PINK...EARLSBORO...JOHNSON... DALE AND BETHEL ACRES. Read more: http://livewire.koco.com/Event/Live_Wire_Tracking_Oklahoma_Storms_April_12#ixzz1r xdqS3g4 Storm from the southwest approaching the metro is producing impressive wall clouds and currently rotating. Below is a picture of a damage. This is one of many in Norman. http://twitpic.com/show/full/99e18l Bunty 04-13-2012, 05:15 PM Norman has significant damage right now it appears. I'm thankful it wasn't bigger. Yes, also like I said before thankful that temps didn't get into the 80s. But there's still Saturday to get thru. Maybe it will move on and get started on the east side of the state tomorrow. Roadhawg 04-13-2012, 05:36 PM Lost my satellite... surprised it took this long.... PennyQuilts 04-13-2012, 05:53 PM You OK? Yes, thanks. The first wave brought some rain but not any hail and then it skirted on down to Norman and I got interested in watching that instead of checking back in, here. Plus, the dog was freaked out and I was peeling her off the ceiling. This second round has had hard rain and about four pea sized pieces of hail but that's about it. My weather station is not giving my rain readings for some reason, but the regular guage says almost an inch and a half. It came right over us but we can see the light green that follows the storm, right now. SatelliteHigh 04-13-2012, 06:06 PM I have Cox cable and the video went out, but I still have audio. Too bad there isn't any kind of video stream of the weather reporting. Thunder 04-13-2012, 06:12 PM I have Cox cable and the video went out, but I still have audio. Too bad there isn't any kind of video stream of the weather reporting. Incorrect. Video stream from KOCO is available here. http://mfile.akamai.com/12893/live/reflector:38841.asx Just fullscreen the view and enjoy! You can also observe the LiveWire at http://livewire.koco.com/Event/Live_Wire_Tracking_Oklahoma_Storms_April_12 and the video stream is also available on there. :-) SatelliteHigh 04-13-2012, 06:34 PM Incorrect. Video stream from KOCO is available here. http://mfile.akamai.com/12893/live/reflector:38841.asx Just fullscreen the view and enjoy! You can also observe the LiveWire at http://livewire.koco.com/Event/Live_Wire_Tracking_Oklahoma_Storms_April_12 and the video stream is also available on there. :-) Thank you for the link. It's kind of funny though, that's the one station that is doing nothing but looking at the radar. And it's all in SW Oklahoma right now. All the other TV stations I'm listening to are saying "Wow look at that picture! Wow look at this video of the tornado in Norman!" It's driving me crazy. Thunder 04-13-2012, 06:38 PM Thank you for the link. It's kind of funny though, that's the one station that is doing nothing but looking at the radar. And it's all in SW Oklahoma right now. All the other TV stations I'm listening to are saying "Wow look at that picture! Wow look at this video of the tornado in Norman!" It's driving me crazy. I've been flipping channels between all the Big 3 and from what I've seen, they are all equal. They look at damages, radars, and live videos. It just depend on the moment you flip to a channel and what you catch them showing. There are Tornado Warnings issued in SW Oklahoma right now and the track of that storm is gunning for the metro area. It will arrive in about two hours if it holds together. That storm seem to be the most impressive out of all today. .A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 645 PM CDT FOR KIOWA AND EXTREME NORTHEASTERN JACKSON COUNTIES... AT 625 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO. THIS DANGEROUS STORM WAS LOCATED NEAR WARREN...MOVING EAST AT 20 MPH. LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE... MOUNTAIN PARK...ROOSEVELT...WARREN AND TOM STEED RESERVOIR. Read more: http://livewire.koco.com/Event/Live_Wire_Tracking_Oklahoma_Storms_April_12#ixzz1r y0UElel SatelliteHigh 04-13-2012, 06:58 PM I've been flipping channels between all the Big 3 and from what I've seen, they are all equal. They look at damages, radars, and live videos. It just depend on the moment you flip to a channel and what you catch them showing. There are Tornado Warnings issued in SW Oklahoma right now and the track of that storm is gunning for the metro area. It will arrive in about two hours if it holds together. That storm seem to be the most impressive out of all today. I haven't seen a single photo in the 40 minutes I've been watching, or the video of the tornado in Norman that they are showing on whatever station Gary England is on. (I think that's what I'm listening to?) There was one time they briefly went to someone in the field and they showed footage of some random clouds for about a minute. Other than that it's constant radar stuff. And this KOCO station is spending every second on the storm around Hobart and Altus, which is somewhat strange as people down there don't even get KOCO, and are watching their own KSWO. Edit: They're showing Norman footage, finally! Thunder 04-13-2012, 07:05 PM KOCO does reach far southwest. If not in that specific area, then at least very close to it. That storm is gunning for the metro, so its very important. And many people do have friends and family across the state, even in the southwest. Thunder 04-13-2012, 07:13 PM There are currently 4,152 without power in Norman, 94 in Central OKC, 479 in North OKC, and 431 in Piedmont. Desktop Version - http://public.oge.com/systemwatch/SystemWatch.swf?startMapID=1 Mobile Version - http://public.oge.com/systemwatch/SystemWatch.Metro_1_content.html Update Power Outage Update - 2,566 in Norman (improvement), 94 in Central OKC, 462 in North OKC, and 431 in Piedmont. Thunder 04-13-2012, 07:30 PM We have another Tornado Warning. THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NORMAN HAS ISSUED A * TORNADO WARNING FOR... EXTREME NORTHWESTERN COMANCHE COUNTY IN SOUTHWESTERN OKLAHOMA... EXTREME EAST CENTRAL KIOWA COUNTY IN SOUTHWESTERN OKLAHOMA... * UNTIL 800 PM CDT * AT 726 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO. THIS DANGEROUS STORM WAS LOCATED NEAR COOPERTON...MOVING EAST AT 15 MPH. * LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE... COOPERTON. Read more: http://livewire.koco.com/Event/Live_Wire_Tracking_Oklahoma_Storms_April_12#ixzz1r yD7DnmJ MikeOKC 04-13-2012, 07:38 PM We have another Tornado Warning. Very interesting: http://newsok.com/forecasters-say-saturday-storms-life-threatening/article/feed/370542 Only the second time in history that the NWS has issued a "high risk warning" more than 24-hours in advance. Shortly after they issued that warning a tornado buzzed the Storm Prediction Center. The irony, considering how big this country is. Midtowner 04-13-2012, 08:12 PM CArWivYt208 Thunder 04-13-2012, 08:18 PM Very interesting: http://newsok.com/forecasters-say-saturday-storms-life-threatening/article/feed/370542 Only the second time in history that the NWS has issued a "high risk warning" more than 24-hours in advance. Shortly after they issued that warning a tornado buzzed the Storm Prediction Center. The irony, considering how big this country is. That is very frightening. It is almost like they are saying that tomorrow will be far worse than May 3rd. I'm actually thinking right now if I can convince my mother to drive away from the state or stay put in this house and potentially be killed. Closest shelter is Del City High School, but I've read months ago that shelters like that are misleading sense of security due to concrete and steel overhead the gym area capable of skyrocketing deaths. My home is a 5th Wheel. Mom's home wouldn't stand a chance, I believe. ..A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 830 PM CDT FOR EAST CENTRAL HARMON...EXTREME SOUTHWESTERN GREER AND EXTREME NORTHWESTERN JACKSON COUNTIES... AT 809 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO. THIS DANGEROUS STORM WAS LOCATED 6 MILES NORTH OF MCQUEEN...MOVING EAST AT 25 MPH. LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE... GOULD AND MCQUEEN. Read more: http://livewire.koco.com/Event/Live_Wire_Tracking_Oklahoma_Storms_April_12#ixzz1r yOcyyOy venture 04-13-2012, 08:26 PM I'll be in the chat room for the evening now. Two tornado warned cells out there moving east towards Central OK. venture 04-13-2012, 08:29 PM Very interesting: http://newsok.com/forecasters-say-saturday-storms-life-threatening/article/feed/370542 Only the second time in history that the NWS has issued a "high risk warning" more than 24-hours in advance. Shortly after they issued that warning a tornado buzzed the Storm Prediction Center. The irony, considering how big this country is. Don't confuse "warning" for SPC's Outlook. They didn't issue a warning, they issued their outlook...and the High Risk was posted early this morning when it first came out - not shortly before this afternoon's tornado. Thunder 04-13-2012, 08:36 PM Tornado Watches extended until 4am. TORNADO WATCH 163 IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 400 AM CDT FOR THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS OKC003-009-011-015-017-027-031-037-039-043-047-049-051-053-055- 057-063-065-071-073-075-081-083-087-093-103-107-109-113-117-119- 125-129-133-143-147-149-140900- /O.NEW.KWNS.TO.A.0163.120414T0135Z-120414T0900Z/ OK . OKLAHOMA COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE ALFALFA BECKHAM BLAINE CADDO CANADIAN CLEVELAND COMANCHE CREEK CUSTER DEWEY GARFIELD GARVIN GRADY GRANT GREER HARMON HUGHES JACKSON KAY KINGFISHER KIOWA LINCOLN LOGAN MAJOR MCCLAIN NOBLE OKFUSKEE OKLAHOMA OSAGE PAWNEE PAYNE POTTAWATOMIE ROGER MILLS SEMINOLE TULSA WASHINGTON WA****A MikeOKC 04-13-2012, 08:50 PM Don't confuse "warning" for SPC's Outlook. They didn't issue a warning, they issued their outlook...and the High Risk was posted early this morning when it first came out - not shortly before this afternoon's tornado. I didn't confuse it with anything, I just repeated the wording verbatim from the AP story. But you're right - it seems they confused it. It's even at the Washington Post site now. I suppose the gist of it is the same regardless. As states across the middle of the country prepared for the worst, storms were already kicking off in Norman, Okla., where a twister whizzed by the nation’s tornado forecasting headquarters but caused little damage. It was only the second time in U.S. history that the Storm Prediction Center issued a high-risk warning more than 24 hours in advance, said Russ Schneider, director of the center, which is part of the National Weather Service. The first time was in April 2006, when nearly 100 tornadoes tore across the southeastern U.S., killing a dozen people and damaging more than 1,000 homes in Tennessee. Venture, I've never asked...all I know is your name is Kevin, but where do you work? Are you a a meteorologist? What a fascinating business (especially this time of year!)... venture 04-13-2012, 08:57 PM I didn't confuse it with anything, I just repeated the wording verbatim from the AP story. But you're right - it seems they confused it. It's even at the Washington Post site now. I suppose the gist of it is the same regardless. As states across the middle of the country prepared for the worst, storms were already kicking off in Norman, Okla., where a twister whizzed by the nation’s tornado forecasting headquarters but caused little damage. It was only the second time in U.S. history that the Storm Prediction Center issued a high-risk warning more than 24 hours in advance, said Russ Schneider, director of the center, which is part of the National Weather Service. The first time was in April 2006, when nearly 100 tornadoes tore across the southeastern U.S., killing a dozen people and damaging more than 1,000 homes in Tennessee. Venture, I've never asked...all I know is your name is Kevin, but where do you work? Are you a a meteorologist? What a fascinating business (especially this time of year!)... No worries. Name isn't Kevin...that is some delusion Thunder was going on about. /shrug LOL No a meteorologist...went to school changed to computer programming though. Did chase for around 12 years though and stopped a few years back when it got too ridiculous out there. My work place is more associated with my avatar. :-) Thunder 04-13-2012, 09:09 PM I didn't say his name was Kevin. I know his real name, but he has to announce it. MikeOKC 04-13-2012, 09:10 PM No worries. Name isn't Kevin...that is some delusion Thunder was going on about. /shrug LOL No a meteorologist...went to school changed to computer programming though. Did chase for around 12 years though and stopped a few years back when it got too ridiculous out there. My work place is more associated with my avatar. :-) I'm sorry about the name thing. I was in the chat room once or twice last year and everyone was calling you "Kevin"...it just takes one to use a name and you're stuck with it! I've said it before, but it's worth saying again - thank you for the effort you put into keeping so many educated and informed here at OKCTalk and your chat site. Thunder 04-13-2012, 09:36 PM The multiple cells approaching the metro all merged into a huge glorified complex. There's no tornadoes on the ground at the moment. We may just be lucky tonight. Thunder 04-13-2012, 10:15 PM I think it is something called a Sig Tornado Parameters scale. 10 being the highest...extremely rare. Effective/Valid for 7pm tomorrow. https://p.twimg.com/AqaPMFTCMAEV4ZU.gif:large MikeOKC 04-13-2012, 10:30 PM CBS Evening News led off their newscast tonight with Scott Pelley tossing it to Dean Reynolds in Norman. Good video inside the Storm Prediction Center. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57413955/storm-forecasters-catastrophic-damage-possible-in-kansas-missouri/ Thunder 04-14-2012, 01:05 AM SPC update for today. http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day1otlk_1200.gif http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day1probotlk_1200_torn.gif Slightly less dramatic than previously. Tornado probability went from 60% to 30%. SatelliteHigh 04-14-2012, 05:04 AM I'll be in the chat room for the evening now. Two tornado warned cells out there moving east towards Central OK. Wait, what chat room? venture 04-14-2012, 07:47 AM Wait, what chat room? Located here: http://www.weatherspotlight.com/ venture 04-14-2012, 07:57 AM Update on today's situation... 06Z GFS Very Unstable atmosphere will develop through the day. CAPE will get to around 3000 j/kg from Wichita Falls to Ponca City. Wind profiles and shear values are favorable for tornado formation later today and will increase after dark. Initial storm formation is forecast to start in SW OK between 4 and 7PM and then expand throughout Central OK during the overnight hours until about 7AM when most activity should be pushing into SE OK. 06Z NAM Much the same story as with the GFS. Very to highly unstable atmosphere today with CAPE values 3000-4000 j/kg over much of Central OK from border to border. EHI values will be favorable from Pauls Valley to the North. LCL values forecast to be a tad high through early evening which could restrict some tornado development. Storm formation timeline is a bit different than GFS. Initial activity expected in North Central OK by 7PM and then developing down through SW OK by 4AM. Impacts on Central OK will be from 4AM through 10AM on Sunday. HRRR short term forecast has things dry through 5PM...so this is looking like a late show. New SPC outlook in next post. venture 04-14-2012, 08:00 AM Day 1 convective outlook nws storm prediction center norman ok 0745 am cdt sat apr 14 2012 valid 141300z - 151200z ...there is a high risk of svr tstms later this afternoon into tonight for central/ern neb...central/ern ks...and central/n central ok... ...there is a mdt risk of svr tstms surrounding the high risk...from sw ok to far ne neb and wrn ia... ...there is a slgt risk of svr tstms surrounding the mdt risk...from nw tx to wrn neb...ia...and mo... ...tornado outbreak expected late this afternoon into tonight from central/ern neb swd across ks to central ok...with the potential for long-track/damaging tornadoes... ...synopsis... A closed low over nw az this morning will progress ewd/enewd to the high plains by this evening while evolving into more of an open wave...and then continue into the central plains by the end of the period. An associated surface cyclone will deepen and move newd from ern co this afternoon to ne neb/se sd by 12z sunday. S of the cyclone...a well-defined dryline is expected to reside from central ks swd into wrn ok and nw tx by this evening...while a warm front moves nwd from ks this morning to central/ern neb by late afternoon. A moist and unstable warm sector will cover neb/ks/ok/n tx to the e of the dryline and s of the warm front. The primary locations for severe storm development today will be near the surface low moving into neb...and the dryline trailing swd into ks/ok. ...central plains through tonight... The forecast reasoning remains largely unchanged from the past few days. In the wake of morning waa storms across ne ok/se ks/sw mo...low-level moisture will surge nwd across ks to s central/se neb by mid-late afternoon. Daytime heating invof the dryline and boundary layer dewpoints ranging from the low 60s in neb to the mid-upper 60s in central ok will contribute to afternoon mlcape values of 2000-3500 j/kg. Meanwhile... Deep-layer vertical shear will be quite supportive of supercells in the unstable warm sector...with effective bulk shear of 50-70 kt across almost the entire warm sector. The degree of low-level moisture and an expected increase in low-level shear later this afternoon into early tonight will result in an environment clearly into the parameter space associated with previous strong-violent and long-track tornado episodes. the primary question this outlook will be storm coverage along the dryline this evening in ks/ok. The convective schemes in the operational models vary with storm initiation signals...while several of the convection-allowing models generate widely scattered dryline supercells in the 22-01z time frame. Forecast soundings...modified for expected afternoon temperatures along the dryline...show deep mixed layer and little or no convective inhibition. Plus...a well-defined band of low-level ascent is expected along the dryline...which suggests at least widely-scattered thunderstorm development across the ks/ok portion of the dryline is entirely plausible. Farther n...potentially more concentrated storm development is expected near the surface low and nw edge of the unstable warm sector in neb /within the left exit region of the jet aloft/. all factors favor discrete convective modes through early tonight...and though storms could be widely spaced...they will be capable of producing long paths of very large hail and damaging tornadoes through at least 06z. late tonight...the midlevel trough will fully emerge over the plains and the pacific cold front will overtake the dryline...potentially supporting more extensive squall line development near or after 06z. Damaging winds will be more of a threat with the more linear and widespread convection late tonight...given a continuation of surface-based instability and 60-70 kt flow in the lowest few thousand feet agl. ..thompson/mosier.. 04/14/2012 venture 04-14-2012, 08:06 AM Graphics attached below...click on them to enlarge. High Risk today is EAST of a line from Alva to Cordell; NORTH of a line from Cordell to Chickasha to Norman to Shawnee to Tulsa to Nowata. Moderate Risk surrounds the High Risk a few miles further west all the way to the TX border by Frederick then NORTH of a line that runs east to Waurika to Sulphur to Eufaula to Miami. Slight Risk covers the rest of the state except for extreme far Western OK (including the Panhandle) and far SE OK. 1210 1211 1212 1213 venture 04-14-2012, 08:35 AM Here is the morning Upper Air Sounding from Norman. Moderately unstable this morning already with no CAP. We'll see CAP increase a bit through the day. One of the more concerning part is the STM value for later today - that is Storm Motion. Right now it is good at NE @ ~30 to 34 mph. However late it is expected to increase to 40 to 50 mph making advanced warning times very limited. For a more detailed break down, go to http://www.weatherspotlight.com and click on Soundings. You'll see a chart with values and their relative meanings and can compare to the soundings. http://climate.cod.edu/data/raob/KOUN/skewt/KOUN.skewt.20120414.12.gif ou48A 04-14-2012, 09:22 AM Are there still major city of Norman streets that are blocked off due to yesterday’s tornado? OU’s spring football game has been moved up to 1:30 pm http://www.soonersports.com/ Luther Wu 04-14-2012, 09:29 AM Ok- the tornado sirens are blaring at 2:25 am. Per radar, etc, the main storm body has moved north of OKC, for the most part and the 'suspected' tornado is maybe 15 miles from here. Is it really necessary to wake up the whole town? Wishbone 04-14-2012, 09:40 AM https://p.twimg.com/AqaPMFTCMAEV4ZU.gif:large ou48A 04-14-2012, 10:39 AM Norman PD recommends routes for Red-White game traffic Read more: http://newsok.com/norman-pd-re...1#ixzz1s1qprAwB Norman city officials strongly suggest that persons planning to attend the OU Red and White football game this afternoon avoid using the core-area streets, such as Berry Road, Flood Avenue (Hwy 77), and Porter (Sunnylane). The police department recommends routes include I-35 to Hwy 9 and Sooner Road (12th Avenue). SoonerDave 04-14-2012, 10:54 AM STRONG LOW-LEVEL SHEAR YIELDING EFFECTIVE SRH IN EXCESS OF 300 M2/S2...MAINTAINED BY BACKED SFC WINDS...WILL SUPPORT A THREAT FOR TORNADOES Venture, through a bit of self-education I've become reasonably good at decoding these SPC bulletins, but while I understand the concept of low-level shear, I'm not able to figure out what "SRH" means, or what that unit of 300 m2/s2 is conveying. Could you educate me a bit, pls? SoonerDave 04-14-2012, 11:01 AM AHA after I posted that, I found the answer - SRH: "Storm-Relative Helicity," referring to a characteristic of a storm to rotate... For any other "self-educating" weather junkies out there, there's a really nice top-level glossary of storm/meteorological terminology available at http://www.pilotfriend.com/pilot_resources/met/a.htm Uncle Slayton 04-14-2012, 11:33 AM Norman PD recommends routes for Red-White game traffic Read more: http://newsok.com/norman-pd-re...1#ixzz1s1qprAwB Norman city officials strongly suggest that persons planning to attend the OU Red and White football game this afternoon avoid using the core-area streets, such as Berry Road, Flood Avenue (Hwy 77), and Porter (Sunnylane). The police department recommends routes include I-35 to Hwy 9 and Sooner Road (12th Avenue). It took me an hour and a half to go from my home near Lindsey & McGee to Sooner Mall to return a rental car and then get back home, a total round trip of about five miles. Besides the closed roads and gawker traffic, people have apparently assumed that traffic laws/signals, especially stop signs, have no meaning at all. If you come here, be careful and be prepared to wait. adaniel 04-14-2012, 11:43 AM It took me an hour and a half to go from my home near Lindsey & McGee to Sooner Mall to return a rental car and then get back home, a total round trip of about five miles. Besides the closed roads and gawker traffic, people have apparently assumed that traffic laws/signals, especially stop signs, have no meaning at all. If you come here, be careful and be prepared to wait. Wow thanks for the heads up. I was actually about to walk out the door to go to the Spring Game, although maybe I should have left earlier. Uncle Slayton 04-14-2012, 12:02 PM Wow thanks for the heads up. I was actually about to walk out the door to go to the Spring Game, although maybe I should have left earlier. Maybe it was just my bad timing, but sometime between 9:45 when I left for the mall and when I got back home, traffic just exploded. There's a lot of foot traffic too, people wandering around with cell phones taking videos, even saw one guy with an iPad "filming" a video with his girlfriend. Dads letting their kids stand in holes in the ground left by fallen trees, with the giant root ball looming above, etc. If you can get east of Berry, you might be OK. I don't attend football games, so I don't know the usual traffic routes. Last I checked, Lindsey east bound off I-35 was closed, 24th between Brooks and Lindsey is closed. These are just routes I ran across in my usual Saturday meandering, I don't know about any others. SoonerBoy18 04-14-2012, 02:19 PM Shame on the city of Mustang for NOT turning on the sirens last night Uncle Slayton 04-14-2012, 02:31 PM Well, the supermarket is completely apocalyptic. Any new data indicating that this thing is gonna happen in central OK or will it be north? SoonerDave 04-14-2012, 02:51 PM Slayton, best I can tell is the SPC draws the "high risk" line roughly from east of Woodward-to-Weatherford, and then north of I-40. I haven't seen anything that would suggest the threat has mitigated, unfortunately. That said, it was clear earlier today that the chasers headed north to Kansas en masse, so that tells me that a good many of those folks think there's a better chance for chasing/spotting up there. I wouldn't assume anything has changed, still looks like anywhere in west-west central OK is at risk for severe weather today. BG918 04-14-2012, 02:52 PM Storms beginning to fire up in far western OK where it has been clearing. More development possible through late afternoon with rapid storm movement. Uncle Slayton 04-14-2012, 03:02 PM Slayton, best I can tell is the SPC draws the "high risk" line roughly from east of Woodward-to-Weatherford, and then north of I-40. I haven't seen anything that would suggest the threat has mitigated, unfortunately. That said, it was clear earlier today that the chasers headed north to Kansas en masse, so that tells me that a good many of those folks think there's a better chance for chasing/spotting up there. I wouldn't assume anything has changed, still looks like anywhere in west-west central OK is at risk for severe weather today. Thanks, SD...was starting to think they were moving things off to the north. Where's Venture? I've tried to find his 'room' all over the net and I can't do it. |