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Lol. I would bet every possession I have on this earth most Oklahomans have no idea what a brown field grant is much less want then eminated. Making broad statements like this contributes to hyper partisanship and gridlock.

I agree they most likely have no idea what it is, but I agree with Spartan that they want it eliminated. Not knowing what something is or how it helps does not preclude people from wanting it eliminated just because they have been sold on the idea that it is a government give away and all government programs are evil. They would view it as a corporate welfare program. Whether they want this SPECIFIC program eliminated or not, they want the broad category eliminated.

I agree they most likely have no idea what it is, but I agree with Spartan that they want it eliminated. Not knowing what something is or how it helps does not preclude people from wanting it eliminated just because they have been sold on the idea that it is a government give away and all government programs are evil. They would view it as a corporate welfare program. Whether they want this SPECIFIC program eliminated or not, they want the broad category eliminated.

No it was a partisan cheap shot aimed at "Oklahomans", and I would say most Oklahomans don't want the EPA eliminated. They want the EPA to play by the rules instead of writing them without any authority to do so. They are a regulatory agency, not a rule making agency. For example, they've been writing a lot rules and doing so under the clean water act while stretching the limits of that law. The CWA applies to federal waters, if the water they are going after isn't federal, they simply declare it federal water and then fine and regulate the bejesus out of someone. There's huge difference between wanting an agency to act within its bounds, and wanting it eliminated. But, no it's way easier to just take cheap shots.

No it was a partisan cheap shot aimed at "Oklahomans", and I would say most Oklahomans don't want the EPA eliminated. They want the EPA to play by the rules instead of writing them without any authority to do so. They are a regulatory agency, not a rule making agency. For example, they've been writing a lot rules and doing so under the clean water act while stretching the limits of that law. The CWA applies to federal waters, if the water they are going after isn't federal, they simply declare it federal water and then fine and regulate the bejesus out of someone. There's huge difference between wanting an agency to act within its bounds, and wanting it eliminated. But, no it's way easier to just take cheap shots.The EPA is the Environmental Protection Agency. The are there to protect the environment. I support them making and/or writing rules to do so.

The EPA is the Environmental Protection Agency. The are there to protect the environment. I support them making and/or writing rules to do so.

What's the difference between a rule, a regulation, and a law?

The EPA is the Environmental Protection Agency. The are there to protect the environment. I support them making and/or writing rules to do so.

Which is what most Americans agree on. The problems arise when people feel the EPA exceeds that authority, regulates where it is unnecessary or wildly overspends the way many federal gevernment agencies do..

What's the difference between a rule, a regulation, and a law?


Which is what most Americans agree on. The problems arise when people feel the EPA exceeds that authority, regulates where it is unnecessary or wildly overspends the way many federal gevernment agencies do..

Yeah I don't want to get this thread sidetracked as I did with the one about the Syrian Refugees but my point was I believe the EPA should have authority to write laws protecting the environment. It should to go through a lawmaker and pass through the house and senate like any other law, but that was my point.

EPA "was created for the purpose of protecting human health and the environment by writing and enforcing regulations based on laws passed by Congress"

No it was a partisan cheap shot aimed at "Oklahomans", and I would say most Oklahomans don't want the EPA eliminated. They want the EPA to play by the rules instead of writing them without any authority to do so. They are a regulatory agency, not a rule making agency. For example, they've been writing a lot rules and doing so under the clean water act while stretching the limits of that law. The CWA applies to federal waters, if the water they are going after isn't federal, they simply declare it federal water and then fine and regulate the bejesus out of someone. There's huge difference between wanting an agency to act within its bounds, and wanting it eliminated. But, no it's way easier to just take cheap shots.

So, wasting toxic chemicals into my pond, which then flows into the creek, into the river, and on to Arkansas is not an issue? The fact it is in MY POND is all I need to be able to do whatever I want? Interesting take.

People want to reduce complex problems into simple sounding soundbites that are a mile wide and a millimeter deep. If the rules they make are not legal, or authorized under authorities given by congress, then they should be taken to court .... which is I believe what is happening. Trouble is, everytime the court upholds rules certain people don't like, then the court becomes the boogie man.

And yes, it was a shot at Oklahomans. A large population of this state isn't particularly fond of anyone controlling the environment, until it actually harms them...and then they want protection. Otherwise, they want to do whatever they want.

The fact that there are funds available to help make tainted ground safer to inhabit is a good thing.

Let's steer this back to the Steelyard. What's the most recent completion date estimate?

Let's steer this back to the Steelyard. What's the most recent completion date estimate?

Id say Winter 2016/early 2017.. Just a guess

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From Saturday.

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That's going to be a nice intersection.

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Yea! It's officially above ground now.

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Going to be awesome seeing this go up this summer!

I truly believe that this will have the greatest impact on appearance for the Bricktown district as I know many people enter downtown off the clover leaf loop on Sheridan off 235 and this will provide an entirely new experience. It would also be smart for them to put a flashing pedestrian sign between the steelyard and the criterion for safety.

I think it would be wise for them to take it down to two lanes with a center turn lane. Add nice bike lanes and extra-wide sidewalks from Lincoln to the railroad tracks on Sheridan, IMO.

I think it would be wise for them to take it down to two lanes with a center turn lane. Add nice bike lanes and extra-wide sidewalks from Lincoln to the railroad tracks on Sheridan, IMO.

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I think it would be wise for them to take it down to two lanes with a center turn lane. Add nice bike lanes and extra-wide sidewalks from Lincoln to the railroad tracks on Sheridan, IMO.
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I truly believe that this will have the greatest impact on appearance for the Bricktown district as I know many people enter downtown off the clover leaf loop on Sheridan off 235 and this will provide an entirely new experience. It would also be smart for them to put a flashing pedestrian sign between the steelyard and the criterion for safety.
The area around Bricktown and Deep Deuce has really filled in the last several years. There used to be a lot of grassy field areas and empty lots. It's beginning to feel a bit more urban.

Yes, we went from having big gaps everywhere to it dwindling down to just a handful.

And I suspect those will ultimately fill in as well.

Momentum seems to be picking up pace almost daily.

I'd really like to see that big parking lot south of Chevy Events Center and east of the ballpark turned into condos/apartments with structured parking in the middle (75% tenant/25% everyone else) or something like that. I just think that would be grand.

I remember before the last economic crunch in what, 2008? that there were plans for condos and shops there. Would love to see that come to fruition!

Now that the foundations are down, they are moving very fast:

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The pre-fabricated parking garage is coming together with incredible speed and it's really quite amazing to watch come together. It also gives you a good idea of just how tall this development is going to be, which is rather impressive!

They're moving quick on all this now...

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Wow. They really are moving fast.

Fast until you realize this thread is over 4 years old. I kid of course (kind of). It just goes to show how much remediation had to be done with this site. It is exciting to see all of the progress and realize that this is a real thing after just looking at pictures for so long.

Driving piles at Hyatt Place; Steelyard continues to move fast:

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Driving piles at Hyatt Place; Steelyard continues to move fast:

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Pete You know what amazes me how fast this stuff is moving in the lower part of bricktown. I was going through my old photos I took mid August last year there was just dirt clearing in that whole area. Criterion foundation was just poured earlier that week. Steelyard and Staybridge utility work was being done on those properties. I'm waiting till mid august taking pictures exactly a year apart and posting them on the site later this summer.

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Moving along...

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I noticed today that brick has started going up at the northeast corner.

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This project seems to be moving with lightning speed compared to some of the other major apartment construction efforts (ahem, Lift).

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Building Permit for 411 E Sheridan (AC Hotel) for $9.4MM, via The Oklahoman.

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Thanks Dan!

They aren't kidding around now... Can't wait to see this relatively finished and occupied.

I thought one of these hotels was going to built by stacking modular sections. When does this happen ?

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Once the first floor of the AC is vertical, they will start putting the modulars on top. The timeline has moved back some probably from the original goal of late October to sometime in November. They have started completing the units though, and they look amazing. If I get a photo I will try to post for sure.

Each unit (100+) will be delivered by semi so when this starts to move it will be a BIG scene in East Bricktown, I'm sure many spectators!

Bellaboo-

Once the first floor of the AC is vertical, they will start putting the modulars on top. The timeline has moved back some probably from the original goal of late October to sometime in November. They have started completing the units though, and they look amazing. If I get a photo I will try to post for sure.

Each unit (100+) will be delivered by semi so when this starts to move it will be a BIG scene in East Bricktown, I'm sure many spectators!

Thanks and please keep us informed !

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Anybody happen to have a recent photo of this?

Anyone know what the latest is on when the apartments are set to open. Also how come there are no floorplans or leasing info online anywhere?

It's still too early for them to start leasing and provide details.

They should be open towards the end of 2017.

Thanks for the update. Actually looking forward to moving in here as soon as they open.

They typically need at least a model unit before they can open a leasing center. I know some of the OKC developers have done off-site model units. That said, you're not going to be signing any leases 6 months out.

How has this one been coming along, any significant progress that's noticeable?

How has this one been coming along, any significant progress that's noticeable?

The last picture we got was in October. Does anyone have any new, recent pictures of the project?

You can see it in the background of these photos. In the second photo the apartments over retail can be seen to the right.

Not a whole lot has changed but will take some newer photos soon.

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Thanks Pete. I'm really excited about this project. I think it's going to look good.

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Looking good. Gonna be a hoppin part of town!

Wow. This street is going to be fairly dense. Just a few years ago it was pretty bare.

Thanks for the new pics, Pete.