The Ballpark is a City built & owned facility. Did the City give up vendor control to the Redhawks?

The Ballpark is a City built & owned facility. Did the City give up vendor control to the Redhawks?

I would imagine that the City has always relegated vendor control to the facility operator, the Redhawks. I don't think the City operates the facility... other than paying for repairs.

Pretty sure that is accurate. Although over the winter the Redhawks invested quite a bit in some cosmetic upgrades, many of which I am sure were associated with the naming rights agreement.

Regarding the (former) Hideaway in the ballpark: Hideaway from the outset wanted to operate on the plaza on non-game days but the team's management (this was previous ownership) insisted that the same percentage structure stay in place as on game days. This meant that while all other Hideaways sell a medium pizza for say, $12, the one in Bricktown would have to sell the same pizza at $22 or something along those lines. The numbers just didn't work for Hideaway, and I know they were really disappointed (as were those of us who would have made regular use of that location).

If they would have been allowed to do that and were still in place I don't think it would compete at all with the Broadway location. Different markets, different uses. The ballpark location would have been more seasonal, outdoor, pedestrian-oriented and would have been more of a lunch place other than on event nights.

I did hear the same info about the new Redhawks owners wanting to go a different direction with a pizza vendor of their choice. I don't think it was Hideaway's desire to move out.

As one who remembers the refreshing taste of an ice cold Stroh's from the middle of the beer barrel pushed around the stands at "The Ol' Ballpark" by The Fairgrounds I am somewhat astonished at the apparent "gentrification" of the level of complaints regarding food offerings at the newer ballpark in Bricktown. (what's it called now?)

i have been disappointed in the ballpark the last few years. Its now almost just a circus, too many t-shirt throwers, promotions. Hopefully it will go to local ownership again soon.

i have been disappointed in the ballpark the last few years. Its now almost just a circus, too many t-shirt throwers, promotions. Hopefully it will go to local ownership again soon.

This is absurd. The experience at the ballpark now is great. The new ownership is fantastic and is considered to be one of the finer ownership groups in minor league baseball. My experiences lead me to agree with that assessment.

This is absurd. The experience at the ballpark now is great. The new ownership is fantastic and is considered to be one of the finer ownership groups in minor league baseball. My experiences lead me to agree with that assessment.

What is "This" in terms of absurd[ity]?
I agree that "the experience" at the ballpark is great!
(although i can't testify as to the veracity of "now".}

It's way better than that place by the fairgrounds.
(it's=the experience of minor league baseball.)
(pop quiz: what is a packard?)

Frankly I wish that I could walk over to the ballpark whenever there is a homestand and root for the local team.
However: that is not possible.

(educational lagnappe for the Springlake and Wedgewood deprived/baseball: "Eight Men Out")

(PIZZA VENDOR as a point of Major League City comparision? geez.)

Reopening almost one year to the day after the fire on September 25, 2012.

Feels as if its been closer to two years since they closed/had a fire.

My favorite Hideaway! So happy it's about to reopen!

I am happy to report that Hideaway reopened Monday night after a full year's absence. Employees were wearing t-shirts with graphics resembling firefighter's t-shirts, and a "HPFD" logo.

I bumped into friends while waiting for my pizza to go, and I was pleased to see the addition of a bar. Previously there was no comfortable place to wait for a to-go order, and this solution has a comfortable, neighborhood pizza parlor effect. Several wines, lots of beer on tap, and a full bar including several flavored vodkas (which I mention as an example of the depth of their spirit inventory).

I almost forgot: The pizza (thin crust ATW) hasn't changed a bit.

Glad they're back. It's been too long.

Like the fireman connection...did they expand into the other business that was also at that location? Sorry, haven't been over that way in ages...last time I was there was shortly after they opened the first time.

Like the fireman connection...did they expand into the other business that was also at that location? Sorry, haven't been over that way in ages...last time I was there was shortly after they opened the first time.

The building was only housing Hideaway when the fire happened.

Hide-A-Way has a great pepperoni pizza and wings. I order the pizza
without sauce.

A friend of mine was in Montreal last week and told me about an
extremely thin pizza crust with pepperoni and no sauce.

That's my kind of pizza! Extremely thin with no sauce. To me
the sauce gets in the way of the crust, cheese, pepperoni,
pepperoni, cheese and pepperoni. I should have asked if she could
see through the crust. Nothing should get in the way of the crust,
cheese, pepperoni, pepperoni, cheese and pepperoni.

Prunepicker,
I have to have Italian sausage (preferably sliced, not ground) and I also substitute the garlic and olive oil glaze for the tomato sauce.
C. T.
Hide-A-Way has a great pepperoni pizza and wings. I order the pizza
without sauce.

A friend of mine was in Montreal last week and told me about an
extremely thin pizza crust with pepperoni and no sauce.

That's my kind of pizza! Extremely thin with no sauce. To me
the sauce gets in the way of the crust, cheese, pepperoni,
pepperoni, cheese and pepperoni. I should have asked if she could
see through the crust. Nothing should get in the way of the crust,
cheese, pepperoni, pepperoni, cheese and pepperoni.

Prunepicker,
I have to have Italian sausage (preferably sliced, not ground) and I also
substitute the garlic and olive oil glaze for the tomato sauce.
C. T.
I'm with you, C.T. I like Italian Sausage with a lot of Pepperoni. I can't
say that I've had sliced I.S. I like the ground I.S. and the spiciness.

A great combo for pizza. Still, I like little or no sauce on my pizza.

I have a friend who wants everything dripping down her elbows. ICK! I
don't get it. I don't get it at all. Obviously we order separate pizzas.

Thin crust (no sauce) pepperoni, cheese, pepperoni, cheese, pepperoni,
cheese and possibly Italian sausage makes for a good pizza. I may
even ask for more cheese, pepperoni, cheese and pepperoni.

Prunepicker,
Sussy's always used sliced sausage and the Nomad II did until a couple of years ago. When I make Papa Murphy's I tailor it with my extras, grilled then sliced hot (Lovera's) Italian sausage, jalapenos, extra cheese (even though I order it with extra cheese), and chopped habaneros (sparingly).
C. T.
I'm with you, C.T. I like Italian Sausage with a lot of Pepperoni. I can't
say that I've had sliced I.S. I like the ground I.S. and the spiciness.

A great combo for pizza. Still, I like little or no sauce on my pizza.

I have a friend who wants everything dripping down her elbows. ICK! I
don't get it. I don't get it at all. Obviously we order separate pizzas.

Thin crust (no sauce) pepperoni, cheese, pepperoni, cheese, pepperoni,
cheese and possibly Italian sausage makes for a good pizza. I may
even ask for more cheese, pepperoni, cheese and pepperoni.

Prunepicker,
Sussy's always used sliced sausage and the Nomad II did until a couple
of years ago...
C. T.
Omigosh! I have had sliced Italian sausage! That's probably why the
Pepperoni and Sausage pizza was so good. I always wondered where
the sausage was since sausage in OK is ground and has Potter's name
on it. LOL!

Pizza without sauce...are you kidding...that is...well..unAmercian!

Might as well just eat those dry Pizza flavored Combos snack thingies

Larry,
I have problems (stomach) with tomato items (pizza sauce of course is one of them), and I have discovered the garlic and olive oil glaze (originally at Hideaway) and it suits me to a "T". Several places now offer it. No, I don't want a pizza with no sauce, just want to choose the sauce I use. So, please don't deport me, but if you do, send me to Italy.
C. T.
Pizza without sauce...are you kidding...that is...well..unAmercian!

Might as well just eat those dry Pizza flavored Combos snack thingies

Larry,
I have problems (stomach) with tomato items (pizza sauce of course is one of them), and I have discovered the garlic and olive oil glaze (originally at Hideaway) and it suits me to a "T". Several places now offer it. No, I don't want a pizza with no sauce, just want to choose the sauce I use. So, please don't deport me, but if you do, send me to Italy.
C. T.

I'm with you. I get bad heartburn from the acid in many of the tomato sauces (Pizza Shuttle is another place which gives me problems) so I'm happy when I can get the garlic and olive oil glaze pizzas. It's actually a very traditional saucing option for pizzas.

Jerrywall,
My problem isn't heartburn, it's just pure unadulterated pain from some pizza sauces and other things. I ate at an Italian restaurant in New Orleans, veal parmesan and woke up in the middle of the night, praying for death. But I had it at Papa Dio's last week and no problem. So, I just avoid it on pizzas when I can. By the way, Papa Angelo's in Bethany has the garlic and olive oil glaze.
C. T.
I'm with you. I get bad heartburn from the acid in many of the tomato sauces (Pizza Shuttle is another place which gives me problems) so I'm happy when I can get the garlic and olive oil glaze pizzas. It's actually a very traditional saucing option for pizzas.

veal parmesan? totally worth the pain. : ) -M

Jerrywall,
My problem isn't heartburn, it's just pure unadulterated pain from some pizza sauces and other things. I ate at an Italian restaurant in New Orleans, veal parmesan and woke up in the middle of the night, praying for death. But I had it at Papa Dio's last week and no problem. So, I just avoid it on pizzas when I can. By the way, Papa Angelo's in Bethany has the garlic and olive oil glaze.
C. T.

I also recommend the Wedge for some good tomato sauce alternatives.

MMM,
You should have noticed that I ordered it at Papa Dio's last week, so I agree but I don't think I will ever order it again in the really good restaurant in New Orleans. It was excellent, but some herb/spice combined with the tomato based Italian sauce really hurt me. I was almost in tears.
veal parmesan? totally worth the pain. : ) -M

Jerrywall,
Thanks, I will have to give them a try. I've been meaning to anyway.
C. T.
I also recommend the Wedge for some good tomato sauce alternatives.

You should have noticed that I ordered it at Papa Dio's last week

i missed that post... i'm a huge veal parm fan and there aren't many places around town that serve it. will have to check out papa dio's... i think they've been around forever, but have never thought to give it a try. -M

MMM,
They are very nice, a small place at May and Hefner (just South of Hefner on the East side of the road). They have a "JRW Special" which is a sampler with ravioli, cannelloni, spaghettini with meatballs, veal parmesan, and Italian sausage. It's a lot of food. And of course, they have veal parmesan as an entree. I think you will like them. The place (I forgot their name) at Sooner Road and Reno also serves veal parmesan.
C. T.
i missed that post... i'm a huge veal parm fan and there aren't many places around town that serve it. will have to check out papa dio's... i think they've been around forever, but have never thought to give it a try. -M

Jerrywall,
... By the way, Papa Angelo's in Bethany has the garlic and olive oil glaze.
C. T.
Papa Angelo's is fab. I like the thin crust pepperoni. I believe the amount
of sauce is acceptable. I don't like too much sauce.

What is the garlic and olive glaze?

How did the fire happen?

Papa Angelo's is fab. I like the thin crust pepperoni. I believe the amount
of sauce is acceptable. I don't like too much sauce.

What is the garlic and olive glaze?

Basically, instead of tomato sauce, the pizza crust is brushed with garlic and olive oil, before the toppings are added.

How did the fire happen?

The Oklahoman article says it was an electrical fire:

UPDATE: Hideaway Pizza on N Western Avenue damaged in Tuesday morning fire in Oklahoma City | News OK (http://newsok.com/update-hideaway-pizza-on-n-western-avenue-damaged-in-tuesday-morning-fire-in-oklahoma-city/article/3712961)

Prunepicker,
Sorry, you will have to ask Hideaway, Papa Angelo's, and Papa Murphy's (take and bake only), it's just a good replacement for the tomato based pizza sauces.
C. T.
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I never tried Hideaway Pizza, I doubt it is better than Godfather's and Mazzio's though

Obviously everyone has their own preferences, but my experiences have placed Hideaway so far above those two it isn't even close.

BrettM2,
I have to agree. I consider Godfather's and Mazzio's "fast food". I no longer go to Hideaway, I prefer the mom and pop places, Nomad II, Papa Angelo's, Papa Dio's, and Two Brothers. I know there are others I need to try, like The Wedge, Upper Crust, Italian Jim's, Jo's et al...
C. T.
Obviously everyone has their own preferences, but my experiences have placed Hideaway so far above those two it isn't even close.

It wasn't fair for me to imply that Hideaway's isn't a "mom and pop" store. They are even though it is a small chain, and I believe they are all owned by the founder? Anyway, my statement about the places I prefer still stands. I miss Sussy's but Nomad II serves the Sussy's style (I believe they have the recipe since it used to be a Sussy's store). It's not totally original, but the crust is superb and seems to be exactly the same.
C. T.

I tried Papa Murphy's 2 weeks ago, it was decent but maybe I will try Hideway Pizza this weekend, do they have any locations in Norman?

I tried Papa Murphy's 2 weeks ago, it was decent but maybe I will try Hideway Pizza this weekend, do they have any locations in Norman?

Yes, they have one on Campus Corner (http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/46/723536/restaurant/Oklahoma-City/Campus-Corner/Hideaway-Pizza-Norman).

J.J.'s Pizza Stop (http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/46/500755/restaurant/Oklahoma-City/J-J-s-Pizza-Stop-Norman)on Lindsey is pretty good too.

Yes, they have one on Campus Corner (http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/46/723536/restaurant/Oklahoma-City/Campus-Corner/Hideaway-Pizza-Norman).

J.J.'s Pizza Stop (http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/46/500755/restaurant/Oklahoma-City/J-J-s-Pizza-Stop-Norman)on Lindsey is pretty good too.

Cool, I will try both

Plans have been filed for a new Hideaway on the SE corner of NW 178th and Western.

The building plan looks to be very similar to the 2-story location at NW 50th and Western, although with a patio on the east side.



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I keep waiting for them to say they are building near covell and i35! They would kill it in that area. Grab the south Guthrie market.

Too bad my wife doesn't like their pizza. I can use the fried mushrooms as an incentive, though.

Looking forward to this. I have never liked the current Edmond location, hoping this will be as good as the one on Western.

I really like the 2-story layout at 50th & Western and glad to see they are replicating it.

I wonder how their expansion locations are doing, such as Enid or Plano.

Too bad my wife doesn't like their pizza. I can use the fried mushrooms as an incentive, though.
Not liking HAW pizza could be grounds for divorce. Just joking. Kinda.

I really like the 2-story layout at 50th & Western and glad to see they are replicating it.
Agree completely. We go to NW Exp because we live close. But we like the Western store a lot better.

Too bad my wife doesn't like their pizza. I can use the fried mushrooms as an incentive, though.

My wife & her family love Hideaway. I on the other hand think it's just ok and I'd rather venture to one of the many other great options we have now. They do a great job all around but it's nothing special IMO. Give me Halls, Empire, Gusto, Sauce Sicilian, Dado's to name a few before Hideaway. I wish Andolini's from Tulsa would open a spot here. This will be a great spot for them but wish it would have been something else. We are closer to the one on Memorial as it is.

I think Hideaway has the absolute best pepperoni pizza on the planet. They have the perfect red sauce and super good crust. And their ranch dressing just is the best and that they don't nickel and dime you for it is even better. Can't wait for the new one to be built on Western, hopefully it will help lessen the wait times at the original one by UCO.

that’s a large piece of land on 178 and western. Any other plans for it?

I think Hideaway has the absolute best pepperoni pizza on the planet. They have the perfect red sauce and super good crust. And their ranch dressing just is the best and that they don't nickel and dime you for it is even better. Can't wait for the new one to be built on Western, hopefully it will help lessen the wait times at the original one by UCO.

It may be the first Edmond location, but it is not the original location, or even in the first wave of expansion.

It may be the first Edmond location, but it is not the original location, or even in the first wave of expansion.

I meant the original in Edmond. Everyone knows Hideaway was born in Stillwater. But thanks.

I meant the original in Edmond. Everyone knows Hideaway was born in Stillwater. But thanks.

It's kinda both...

The original Hideaway Pizza did open in Stillwater in 1957, and traces its roots back to the Dermer Family and is still the original. Known as "The Hideaway Pizza" and is the single location in Stillwater. It operates separate from the other Hideaway Pizza's.

Former employees of "The Hideaway" in Stillwater opened "Hideaway Pizza" on Cherry Street in Tulsa in 1993 and then started the expansion to other locations, including the one is Edmond next to the UCO Jazz Lab in 2006 or so. I believe this is the same group of ownership of the current franchise model with the multiple locations in Oklahoma, Texas, Arkansas. Known as "Hideaway Pizza"

Not really. Norman had a HIDEAWAY location on Jenkins in thw early 80's. I sold beer for them on gamedays

Not really. Norman had a HIDEAWAY location on Jenkins in thw early 80's. I sold beer for them on gamedays
The history on Hideaway's website is pretty much what scottk posted. But I also thought Hideaway was around outside of Stillwater earlier than 1993. So I'm completely confused. As is often the case.

All I can go by is my own experience. I ate pizza there, drank there, and worked there. Just south of Lindsey on Jenkins. In 1983.

From the OU Daily, 4/20/83:

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^ Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Wow....never knew about the Norman location pre-Cherry Street and the other expansions. Awesome finding the coupon from the paper.

I wonder why it's absent from the Hideaway web history?

https://www.hideawaypizza.com/history