230 NW 10th (http://g.co/maps/m9mx5)
owner=Midtown Renaissance
cost=$2,800,000 renovations
height=3 floors
sq. feet=9,864
acerage=.16
12 residential units

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Information & Latest News
7/29/11: Midtown renaissance moves forward (http://newsok.com/midtown-renaissance-moves-forward-with-more-housing-retail-possible-hotel/article/3589777)
4/15/11: $2 million building permit issued in addition to a previous $800K permit.

Links
County Assessor Record (http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/Searches/AN-R.asp?ACCOUNTNO=R011283080)
Gallery

Is "Cline Hall" the same as "The Cline", located at 230 NW 10th?

http://midtownr.com/propImages/000022.jpg

http://midtownr.com/ViewProperty.aspx?id=6

Yes! Actually meant to type "Cline Hotel" which is the old name/use.

What do you think that means a "3 story addition"? Shouldn't it be renovation?

What do you think that means a "3 story addition"? Shouldn't it be renovation?

The architect for The Cline is the same one that did my building (Hadden Hall). I talked with him a few weeks ago and he told me that they are adding an addition to the back of the building. He said that the building will be mostly Studio Apartments but also have a few two bedrooms in the part they are adding.

Excellent News! Yes, more density and housing for Midtown!

However, doon't they know that they will be removing an invaluable parking lot with the new addition? That's not the Okc way of doing things. jk

I was wondering how they would make the size of the Cline work economically...

Here are some renderings for the Cline Hotel. The floorplan is for the 3rd level but all three floors have the same basic layout; so 12 units in total.

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Looking really nice. But are they framing in some sort of non-historic entrance, or is that just holding up the canopy while they work on it? I'm guessing the latter since I don't see any framed openings.

Nevermind. Looked at the plans, duh. This looks like a really nice effort.

Is anyone aware when they may start leasing and at what price? I have a buddy who is pretty interested in these.

I hear they are all leased.

Wow that was fast!

You snooze you lose lol.

I hear they are all leased.

They aren't, I put a deposit down today on one of the two bedrooms, moving in early May. It seemed as though they were just now begining to lease them, Janna (company rep) promised me she would make sure I had cute neighbors.

I've got a few pictures on my cell, not great quality but I'll try to upload them this evening.

The Cline is almost finished and I'll new pics of the interior soon. Being told the remodel is just as nicer than Hadden Hall.

The Cline is almost finished and I'll new pics of the interior soon. Being told the remodel is just as nicer than Hadden Hall.

Thanks! Love your photographic work and look forward to seeing Cline images.

Hey, thanks for the complement! The first tenants are set to move in at after the first of the month, I believe. Pics will follow shortly after.

Just a couple of views from inside the newly renovated Cline! I'm not sure but I still believe every one of the units are already rented out!
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Super sharp! Great photography, as always.

Love the fireplace treatment.

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What was the pricing like on these?

MidtownR knows what they're doing.

MidtownR knows what they're doing.

And not coincidentally, all their apartment properties seem to lease out before they're even complete.

Given their success, I'm sure they're tempted to turn everything into residential rentals but I give them credit for staying at least somewhat diversified. Not only is it good for Midtown, it will be good for them in the longer term.

And certainly, as they bring more and more people into these neighborhoods, there will be more need for other types of nice properties, be it office, retail, restaurant or service.

It's actually quite refreshing to see a developer who likes to keep its portfolio residential-dominant.

They are really showing that it pays to do it right, because there is a market for quality.

That building has looked like crap for decades but it looks good now...

That building has looked like crap for decades but it looks good now...

Yes. Historic preservation takes buildings that look "like crap" and makes them look good. This is why we want historic buildings to be preserved, not torn down.

Yes. Historic preservation takes buildings that look "like crap" and makes them look good. This is why we want historic buildings to be preserved, not torn down.


I am ok with tearing down some and preserving some...

I am ok with tearing down some and preserving some...

And replacing the ones torn down with what, though?

Obviously depends on the facts and circumstances of each situation...no way to generalize...

Well we're not going to vilify someone who doesn't categorically endorse preservation as the only way. However, having compared the quality of most historic preservation to most new construction, I think we can categorically identify which often yields the best result.

The thing is that there aren't even any photos of the finished Cline Hotel bldg in this thread, although several near-completion (as the awning is going on) exist in this thread. The Cline does look amazing, but no more amazing than 1212 N. Walker (yes, even that is HP, albeit heavy on the adaptive reuse side), The Packard, Hadden Hall, Plaza Court, and countless others. The Guardian Lofts, Mayfair Apartments, The Osler, and several more to begin will be no different in terms of top-notch quality considering that it is the same developer.

And of course, for the "it depends on circumstances and situations" crowd, there is always NW 9th Street, which no developer in his right mind would have tried to preserve. That's where someone like Steve Mason goes from being a developer to being a true community visionary.

Never, ever, ever underestimate HP. And while I don't want to vilify anyone who does underestimate HP, all I want to do is say look at these projects, which arguably constitute the absolute best small-to-medium size developments OKC has seen. The proof is in the pudding, categorically speaking.

I wasn't vilifying at all, just simply asking what sort of end result justifies demolition in Soonerus' opinion, e.g. Is an empty lot better than an abandoned building that might look rundown?

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Those two pictures are of different units. The first is the kitchen from the 2 bedroom. The second is the living area of the studio.

I wasn't vilifying at all, just simply asking what sort of end result justifies demolition in Soonerus' opinion, e.g. Is an empty lot better than an abandoned building that might look rundown?

Sorry mcca, wasn't accusing you of vilifying anyone, I just threw that in to lighten the tone because I think the tone of my posts comes off too heavily sometimes.. mea culpa

Wow that looks fantastic. Great view from the kitchen too.

That is KILLER.

Love the tile backsplash and the light woodwork. Mickey Clagg and his partner have obviously hired a sensational interior designer. They have really set the standard for quality residential in the downtown area.

That is KILLER.

Love the tile backsplash and the light woodwork. Mickey Clagg and his partner have obviously hired a sensational interior designer. They have really set the standard for quality residential in the downtown area.

They used two different color pallets, alternating between the units, the other used darker woods/countertops and looks equally great. The two-bedrooms have a pretty impressive built-in entertainment unit on one wall. I didn't realize that the one-bedroom units had fireplaces, I'm a bit jealous now. Two and a half weeks until I move into my two bedroom at The Cline.

All moved in and I couldn't be happier. I've been walking all over midtown this weekend. Seems like most of the units are occupied, I've met people from three of the other five units on the south side of the building, one of the guys was talking about organizing a cookout, so it seems,like a real sense of community could develop.

That building has looked like crap for decades but it looks good now...

Yeah, when we lived downtown, I did a search to see how many registered sex offenders were in our area. More than one lived at the Cline. This looks to be something of an improvement!

I didn't realize that the Cline was even an occupied flop house.

Night pic of the Cline:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7223/7175223013_ccaa1640d6_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54186309@N04/7175223013/) The Cline 6.10.2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54186309@N04/7175223013/) by dani1262 (http://www.flickr.com/people/54186309@N04/), on Flickr

That is a beautiful little building. It screams "home" to me.

From yesterday... This building is absolutely gorgeous, even better than Hadden Hall IMO:


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Is there some kind of handicap access to the front entrance or would that only be from the rear? I can't really tell from the photos.

The ramp comes in from the NE corner of the front facade. Look to the front left corner of the building.

The ramp comes in from the NE corner of the front facade. Look to the front left corner of the building.

I thought that might be possible but couldn't tell for sure from the pictures.

What is the rental price for units in The Cline?

Starting at $665/Month

Residential - For Lease (http://www.downtownokc.com/RealEstate/DowntownforLease/tabid/244/categoryid/0/currentpage/2/Default.aspx)

Starting at $665/Month

Residential - For Lease (http://www.downtownokc.com/RealEstate/DowntownforLease/tabid/244/categoryid/0/currentpage/2/Default.aspx)

That is a bargain for a rental of that or any quality downtown!

Wow. $665 is surprisingly low.

I'm not sure if that rate is still correct.

They have been completely leased since they opened and I suspect any vacancy would bring higher rent.

They posted on their Facebook a while back, it was a 2br for 1400-1500/mo, if I recall correctly.

They posted on their Facebook a while back, it was a 2br for 1400-1500/mo, if I recall correctly.

That would have been my old apartment, I miss that place.