oh lord people actually eat at panda express?! yikes...

... Spare me

No1cub17,
I never have but have wanted to. They always look so neat and clean. What's the problem with them? I suppose it's just a typical fast food place but they do put on a good front.
C. T.
oh lord people actually eat at panda express?! yikes...

Panda is legit.

oh lord people actually eat at panda express?! yikes...

You don't get to be this big without having a little something going for you.
"Panda Express has 1,500 restaurants covering 42 States and Puerto Rico"
Panda Express - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panda_Express)

oh lord people actually eat at panda express?! yikes...


I ate at a Panda Express once
<johnny vermin snark face>
Once.
</johnny vermin snark face>

And a few of those are replacements for the failed ones...by the way, I can't place an El Chico on Memorial...where is it at...is it in QS mall???

Yes, it is on the southwest part of the mall next to JP Penny.

*this* area of QS.

Denny's, Cheeseburger in Paradise, Carabba's, Applewood's, Steak & Ale (cheap shot, I know), and I'm sure some others I have missed, have closed up shop. It's not impossible, but it's shown some weaknesses whereas some of the establishments to the east have been more consistent.

"this" becomes an arbitrary imaginary boundary to prove a negative point. I dare say that within a mile has the most food served of anywhere in the metro, save possibly in Moore in the two mile stretch by the theater.

That area of QS is known as "Death Row" among many in the restaurant industry in OKC. Yes there have been many successful restaurants in this area as well, but there has also been a LOT of turnover with new restaurants that have opened and failed quickly.

It is far from death row. But, perhaps you should go up there tonight and tell that to all those waiting in line for tables that no one wants to eat way,way out there.

It is far from death row. But, perhaps you should go up there tonight and tell that to all those waiting in line for tables that no one wants to eat way,way out there.

I actually think that S&B will do pretty well there as it has a pretty good concept going for it. But there definitely has been a good number of restaurants that have opened up in that area and closed fairly quickly.

Their expansion is ongoing. Opening a location in Lawton next and looking at Tulsa.

S&B's flips bar burgers into growing restaurant concept | News OK (http://newsok.com/sbs-flips-bar-burgers-into-growing-restaurant-concept/article/3872115)

Their expansion is ongoing. Opening a location in Lawton next and looking at Tulsa.

S&B's flips bar burgers into growing restaurant concept | News OK (http://newsok.com/sbs-flips-bar-burgers-into-growing-restaurant-concept/article/3872115)

This will go over very well in Lawton. Tulsa? Not so sure.

If they had balls, they'd skip Tulsa and they'd take a crack at Austin :-P

Would love to see an Oklahoma Restauranteur take a shot at Texas.

hope they're not expanding too fast. -M

hope they're not expanding too fast. -M

Seems local chains do that and eventually kill their operation.

If they had balls, they'd skip Tulsa and they'd take a crack at Austin :-P

Would love to see an Oklahoma Restauranteur take a shot at Texas.

On the flip side, I'd love to see some real Austin restaurants in OKC. My favorite chain for fast food in Austin is Torchy's!

hope they're not expanding too fast. -M

They are backed by Emerging Brands. They are a pretty sound group who know the restaurant business. With that being said that also owned coaches and we all know how that turned out.

On the flip side, I'd love to see some real Austin restaurants in OKC. My favorite chain for fast food in Austin is Torchy's!

Love Torchy's!

They are backed by Emerging Brands. They are a pretty sound group who know the restaurant business. With that being said that also owned coaches and we all know how that turned out.

Deep pockets doesn't always equate to a viable business plan.

I think Falcone's may be a good example. He obviously had some money, but that didn't make his pizza at his expanded locations edible - even though I personally thought his original location was really good. He just couldn't seem to replicate it consistently - which is what I hope S&B's will be able to do.

That said, I think a place like S&B's can loose some of its allure when they have multiple locations. It just doesn't seem like as 'fun' of an outing to eat there when its not as unique IMO.

This will go over very well in Lawton. Tulsa? Not so sure.

They might make a go of it in Tulsa but that town is already loaded with good burger options so it's not going to be easy and they will have to bring their A game to that area.

I've never had a bad experience at the original S&B location but I've found the one on 9th Street and the one on Walker to be inconsistent with their burgers.

On the flip side, I'd love to see some real Austin restaurants in OKC. My favorite chain for fast food in Austin is Torchy's!

There is a Chuy's in Norman. They are based out of Austin.

Personally I'd like to find some real Austin BBQ in Oklahoma City but the only place I've been able to find it is my own backyard.

I ate at a Panda Express once
<johnny vermin snark face>
Once.
</johnny vermin snark face>

Was it finger ling-ling good?

They are backed by Emerging Brands. They are a pretty sound group who know the restaurant business. With that being said that also owned coaches and we all know how that turned out.

I didn't know they were Emerging Brands. Considering Bricktown Brewery and Pablanos, I'd consider this a good thing. So pretty much all the "locally owned" chains are now backed by Emerging Brands it looks like.

Jimmy's Egg
Henry Hudsons
Old Chicago
Pablano Grill
Bricktown Brewery
Coaches
Interurban (I think)
S and B burgers

Anything else?

I thought Old Chicago was national. Emerging Brands may have the local franchise.

Interurban is a weird animal - Emerging Brands may own a couple, but there's also an original ownership group that has a couple of its own.

Coaches is all gone now, if I recall correctly.

I didn't know they were Emerging Brands. Considering Bricktown Brewery and Pablanos, I'd consider this a good thing. So pretty much all the "locally owned" chains are now backed by Emerging Brands it looks like.

Jimmy's Egg
Henry Hudsons
Old Chicago
Pablano Grill
Bricktown Brewery
Coaches
Interurban (I think)
S and B burgers

Anything else?

Garfield's Restaurants and they are partners in the Charlie Brown's Steakhouse chain (it's on the East Coast). However, they aren't involved with Interurban. Also cafeboeuf is right about the fact that they are a franchiser of Old Chicago, but is regional and not just in OKC (I know for certain they are in Missouri, and I believe they are in Kansas).

Garfield's Restaurants and they are partners in the Charlie Brown's Steakhouse chain (it's on the East Coast). However, they aren't involved with Interurban. Also cafeboeuf is right about the fact that they are a franchiser of Old Chicago, but is regional and not just in OKC (I know for certain they are in Missouri, and I believe they are in Kansas).

I couldn't remember. I knew it was a lot locally though.

Where is S & B located? I haven't heard of it.

Panda is legit.
I've dined at Panda. It's good.

This is probably off topic but does anyone remember Ouy Lin's
on N. Penn and N.W. 11th? How about House of Chan just west
of N. Penn on the service road? I always looked forward the
steamed rye bread and butter.

Where is S & B located? I haven't heard of it.

There are several of them. The original is in the office building just north of Best Buy on May. The second one is on 9th street east of Broadway. There is one south of I-240 on the west side of Walker. The one in Norman is on Main street in the old Coach's location. The newest one is where the Denny's used to be on May, north of Memorial. I have only ever been to the original and 9th street locations and they were pretty consistent.

Where is S & B located? I haven't heard of it.

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Prunepicker,
The first time my mother took us to eat Chinese food was at the House of Chan. My late wife's favorite was Ouy Lin's until we were served shrimp fried rice with bad shrimp. They were very nice, replaced our meals and didn't charge us, but if you have ever had bad shrimp before you will understand that we couldn't go back. They closed about three-four years after that. Steamed rye was a staple in Chinese cooking. I have eaten Chinese in Maryland, Washington, and several other states and they always brought rye in a container with a cloth napkin or a saucer/plate in a cloth napkin. But, I haven't seen it in over twenty years.
C. T.
This is probably off topic but does anyone remember Ouy Lin's
on N. Penn and N.W. 11th? How about House of Chan just west
of N. Penn on the service road? I always looked forward the
steamed rye bread and butter.

Prunepicker,
The first time my mother took us to eat Chinese food was at the House of Chan. My late wife's favorite was Ouy Lin's until we were served shrimp fried rice with bad shrimp. They were very nice, replaced our meals and didn't charge us, but if you have ever had bad shrimp before you will understand that we couldn't go back. They closed about three-four years after that. Steamed rye was a staple in Chinese cooking. I have eaten Chinese in Maryland, Washington, and several other states and they always brought rye in a container with a cloth napkin or a saucer/plate in a cloth napkin. But, I haven't seen it in over twenty years.
C. T.

I ate at House of Chan and Ouy Lin once. I liked them ok. Canton on McArthur used to serve rye bread and butter. I do not know if they still do. Canton is my favorite Chinese restaurant in OKC. It has been owned by the Tse family for 41 years at the same location. It does not look like much on the inside, but their chicken chow mein and eggrolls are my favorite in the 405. Their egg drop soup freaks some people out because it is clear and you can actually see egg in it. It is not the syrupy stuff everyone else serves. The Tse family, who immigrated from Hong Kong in the 1960's, are Cantonese. Canton also has some of the best prices in Oklahoma City.

I eat at the S&B Burger Joint on 9th Street frequently. I eat my own combination of a Mushroom Swiss with regular mayo (Not Chipolte mayo) and a fried egg on top. I enjoy it every time. Some people may be put off by the Rolling Stone covers on the tables and the loud music. I plan on trying the Quail Springs location one of these days. I think it will do well there.

Bigray in Ok

From what I've heard, the Quail location opened up in mid-July and still managed to do better than the other S&B locations in sales for the month of July which is pretty incredible. Granted it's still early, but I think that is a pretty good location for it. They've had a lot of people say that they loved S&B's but the locations were all too far away from them. The Quail location is great for a lot of North OKC and Edmond people to go to.

So far it's been such a cash cow for Shannon and Bryan and their partners, Abacus (I don't think they're called Emerging Brands anymore). Sure it might lose a little bit of its allure of being the hole-in-the-wall funky hamburger joint that the original location was known for, but that is a small price to pay considering the benefits they're getting from it.

A recent article said that they're looking to open one in Lawton now sometime next year. If it's near the base, then they could make a killing there.

Haven't been yet. The quail location is so close. I must try soon. But, how many of you that have been like it more than The Garage? Anyone like it more than Irma's (Irma's original location still ranks as my favorite burger joint).

Irma's is my favorite place, too. If I feel like a burger, the No Name burger is my go-to. I'd put S&B between Irma's and The Garage. But you should definitely try S&B (I like the location on 9th best).

I just really dislike the Garage's set up. I don't Like standing in line at a counter like I'm at a McDonald's. Never heard of No Name burgers.

We ate at the North-side location the other day. Different vibe than the 9th Street location - seemed more "corporate" or reproducible than 9th St. On the recommendation of the waitress, we substituted turkey burgers for their regular patties, and I must say, they were awesome. May be my new go-to on any of their varieties. Lots of spice, onions, peppers, etc. almost like a very flavorful meatloaf. We did not like their fried cheese cubes however. Try the turkey!

I just really dislike the Garage's set up. I don't Like standing in line at a counter like I'm at a McDonald's. Never heard of No Name burgers.

"No Name" is an option at Irma's.

I just really dislike the Garage's set up. I don't Like standing in line at a counter like I'm at a McDonald's. Never heard of No Name burgers.

"no name" is a burger made with all-natural beef from the no name ranch in wynnewood.

Thought that sounded vaguely familiar, that's how I order mine. Just been too long since I've been.

I think it's supposed to be pronounced "Noh Nah-Meh" to give you a subliminal connection with Kobe (Koh-Beh) beef.
That, or provide some sort of vague Native American connection.

I think we are done with the 9th St S&B. Messed up our order today for what must be at least the 5th time (got beef instead of veggie sliders like we ordered). Our friend's beef burger was patently undercooked. She sent it back, we could see the waiter arguing with the kitchen about it - odd thing to do when you have an open kitchen in full view of the entire restaurant. When we did get our food, it was cold. Not even warm, cold. Cold onion rings, anyone? We'l stick with the one on N May from now on, even if it's a longer walk. Maybe it is just a function of restaurants being unable to find quality staff these days. Really too bad.

Ate at the original S&B yesterday and learned a few things:

Way cooler than the one on Quail Springs decor- and soundtrack-wise.
They no longer take KeepItLocalOK cards. :(
The original one is the only one owned by Shannon and whoever the B is, the rest are apparently franchised/licensed out.
The original one has better service and food than the Quail Springs one.

We're so glad we live in the middle of the city now (Venice) instead of BFE, so many more better dining options available to us.

Shannon Roper and other investors are the ones expanding S&B.

Ate at the original S&B yesterday and learned a few things:


We're so glad we live in the middle of the city now (Venice) instead of BFE, so many more better dining options available to us.

We did the same and love it! We moved in to the Wileman's Bell Isle from BFE north Edmond where we had a couple acres and LOVE IT. So much closer to all the food and everything else.

We did the same and love it! We moved in to the Wileman's Bell Isle from BFE north Edmond where we had a couple acres and LOVE IT. So much closer to all the food and everything else.

I live in that area as well and it's pretty great.

Can get anywhere -- including to friends in Edmond -- in 10-15 minutes.

Plus, close to all the best shopping in OKC. I live less than a mile from the Sam's at I-44 and May and I'm in there all the time because it's so easy. Really looking froward to TJ's and WinCo at 39th & Portland.

I live in that area as well and it's pretty great.

Can get anywhere -- including to friends in Edmond -- in 10-15 minutes.

Plus, close to all the best shopping in OKC. I live less than a mile from the Sam's at I-44 and May and I'm in there all the time because it's so easy. Really looking froward to TJ's and WinCo at 39th & Portland.

Yes! All the above! That Sam's is stellar and I've never really been there when it's busy at all. We think the area is great as well!

We looked in Belle Isle a couple of years ago and found out we were priced out of the area, and actually got a fantastic deal in Venice - $87/sf for an amazing house! And yeah, *so* central to everything, it's incredible (we're a block away from Patty Wagon, both a boon and a curse, lol)...

So if it's Shannon Roper et al expanding S&B, it's interesting that the server said the original is the only truly local one now, sounded like it was someone not really associated with S&B that was doing the expansion...

I also love the Target at 50th & May.

The one big hole is a regular grocery store but WinCo will solve that problem for me and is my preferred store anyway. TJ's will help a lot too.

Yep...the ~1 mile radius centered around I-44 and NW Expressway might be the best location in the city. If OKC gets serious about putting tracks in the ground all the way up to Western/63rd via Classen, then other than immediacy, there wouldn't be much advantage living downtown as opposed to here.

I also love the Target at 50th & May.

The one big hole is a regular grocery store but WinCo will solve that problem for me and is my preferred store anyway. TJ's will help a lot too.

Used to go to that Target when I was a kid back in the 70s/80s, got a lot of stuff from there during our recent move. We are still going to Uptown in the Village, might even be closer to our new place than it was to our old place. Winco will be a nice addition, and we'll absolutely be using TJ's after the initial craziness dies down (shopped there just about every week when we lived in IL).

I also love the Target at 50th & May.

The one big hole is a regular grocery store but WinCo will solve that problem for me and is my preferred store anyway. TJ's will help a lot too.

Whoa ... Did you move out of midtown? Too bad!!!

Whoa ... Did you move out of midtown? Too bad!!!

Yes, I bought a house by 50 Penn.

I miss living in SoSA but am also very happy where I am now.

Yes, I bought a house by 50 Penn.

I miss living in SoSA but am also very happy where I am now.

If I may ask, why did you move?

If I may ask, why did you move?

Because: 1. I was only renting in SoSA; 2. buying down there is ridiculously expensive and 3. I have three big dogs and wanted a large yard.

I'd like to move back downtown at some point but I have to say, I like my house and the area a lot more than I thought I would. You can get anywhere from here super quick; as in Deep Deuce or downtown in 8 minutes. Plus super easy to get north or northwest to see friends and family. And I'm on a 1/3rd of an acre in a completely remodeled house for a very modest amount.

And of course super close to that great Sam's at I-44 & May, Target, Trader Joes and most every bit of good shopping in OKC.

Welcome to the area. I am up the road just a bit in Glenbrook and find it very convenient and easy to get anywhere...just not always by walking or biking as I'd like.

S&B’s Burger Joint goes west

By: Molly M. Fleming The Journal Record January 17, 2018

OKLAHOMA CITY – A popular restaurant chain is adding another location in the metro, with more sites on the front burner.

S&B’s Burger Joint is opening a restaurant in the Westgate Marketplace, at the former Pizza Inn spot. The space, 6801 SW Third St., measures 3,545 square feet. The Pizza Inn closed about eight weeks ago.

Newmark Grubb Levy Strange Beffort broker Michael Almaraz represented the shopping center in the transaction. J&A Real Estate Development represented S&B’s in finding a site.

Almaraz said he was working with S&B’s several months before Pizza Inn closed. The pizza eatery had a five-year lease, but after Peter Piper Pizza moved into the center, the Pizza Inn operators offered the space.

Almaraz said since S&B’s had such good credit, the shopping center was comfortable with terminating the Pizza Inn lease and then giving a new lease to S&B’s.

S&B’s has eight metro area locations, including restaurants in Mustang and on the Northwest Expressway.

Partner Kevin Burke said the Westgate Marketplace is a different trade area compared to the existing sites on the metro’s west side. The new eatery is close to the OKC Outlets and it will face Interstate 40 West.

“We feel like there’s enough business density and rooftop density that (the area) warrants its own location,” he said. “It’s an uncovered market point for us.”

Burke said there will be at least three more S&B’s in the metro, and maybe up to five additional sites. He said there isn’t a particular area where they’re looking. There can’t be another S&B’s within a 10-minute drive, though.

He said it will take about five months to build out the new place. The restaurant will include S&B’s new menu, which features items like pizza, salads, boneless wings, and quesadillas.

“We expanded our menu so we can offer more food categories for people who love S&B’s, but may not be ready for a burger today,” he said.

I believe that was the last Pizza Inn in Oklahoma City.

I believe that was the last Pizza Inn in Oklahoma City.

There's just one left, just south of Britton Rd on Council - unless that one recently closed as well. Sad, I always enjoyed their pizza, but never got a chance to visit them very often.

There's just one left, just south of Britton Rd on Council - unless that one recently closed as well. Sad, I always enjoyed their pizza, but never got a chance to visit them very often.

Was not aware that one was even there. So yeah... May be one left...... Until S&B moves into it. ;)