They'll probably be building a parking garage then. In the picture that was posted previously with the hypothetical Hong King tower pictured to resemble what the OGE tower could look like, there's a huge gap in the skyline between the Devon Tower and the hypothetical OGE tower. I really hope that the OGE tower is built on the east side of the SC property to close the gap. Something tells me though that they'll probably have a huge park in front of the building on the east side to flow into Myriad Gardens.

My guess is that the building will be built large enough to house OG&E, Enogex, and a growing Enogex/CenterPoint MLP.

My guess is that the building will be built large enough to house OG&E, Enogex, and a growing Enogex/CenterPoint MLP.

Patrick, It's my understanding Enogex ceases to exist after the new MLP is formed. Am I wrong?

The Enogex/CenterPoint merger closed in early May.

Just waiting on decisions about HQ, name, etc.

When the deal closed, they said they hoped to do an IPO in "6 to 12 months", so they have to be very close to making some big decisions.

Why? They need office space.

Not a brand new skyscraper! They are already being sued by the feds for not complying with proper upgrades. OG&E has bigger needs with infrastructure before they build a spanking new skyscraper. I still think it's the MLP anyway.

Not a brand new skyscraper! They are already being sued by the feds for not complying with proper upgrades. OG&E has bigger needs with infrastructure before they build a spanking new skyscraper. I still think it's the MLP anyway.

Who isn't being sued by the Feds?

Who isn't being sued by the Feds?

All the people who should be, but aren't. :)

I don't really give a flying fish's patooty who's going to build the tower, just that SOMEBODY builds one and gets it going. Need to keep momentum for this town rolling...

I don't really give a flying fish's patooty who's going to build the tower, just that SOMEBODY builds one and gets it going. Need to keep momentum for this town rolling...

Well, when you put it that way.

Actually, I've thought about this and realize that if OG&E were to build a new tower, and only take a few floors, and have reasonable expectations to lease the Class A space and actually make money...

...I really hope that the OGE tower is built on the east side of the SC property to close the gap. Something tells me though that they'll probably have a huge park in front of the building on the east side to flow into Myriad Gardens.

NO!!!! Please no. They don't need to do that at all. There is plenty of green space already in the Gardens proper. I wouldn't mind if they're set back just a little along Sheridan (but not too much), but along Hudson they should but against the street with nice retail frontage.

Not a brand new skyscraper! They are already being sued by the feds for not complying with proper upgrades. OG&E has bigger needs with infrastructure before they build a spanking new skyscraper. I still think it's the MLP anyway.

I don't see anything wrong with them consolidating, unloading small offices all around town, being more efficient, building state of the art, thus lowering operating costs. Heck CNP has a 42 story building in Houston.....

To quote myself above, I'll say I'm counting on the MLP. I'll be very disappointed if it's my electric company.

Considering that they would be selling or leasing out their old space, they are going to be saving money at some point. there are also inefficiencies that will be reduced by consolidating into one building. it's not like they are frivolously throwing money into a massive new tower just to build it. It has to make good financial sense as well. As long as it is taking them to announce this, im sure theyve left no stone unturned in their research. Look at center point, they are similar to OG&E in that they are a utility with a large midstream division. They moved into a massive tower in Houston, there are no massive towers with space available and office space downtown is at a premium... Unless they want to be spread out all over downtown, what choice do they have as a growing company?

About the gap thing...

That's a little hard to fix. Devon Tower is really set back from everything around it. To the south you've got the big expanse of the Myriad Gardens... and that's not going away. To the west is the Century Center, that may gain a tiny bit of height with the renovation, but will nevertheless stay low rise for the conceivable future. To the north, nothing is going to get any closer than the Oklahoma Tower, especially with Devon's huge garage on the NW corner that will preclude another tower at that spot. And to the west is the Preftakes area full of historical buildings. Maybe some will go down, but One North Hudson will remain in any event.

Thus Devon Tower is effectively buffered with "air space" around it for the near term (and perhaps long term too). And they very well may like it that way too as it makes their tower stand out and not get buried in a crowd of nearby highrises. Ok, DT is never gonna get buried because of its height, but the lower half of the tower could be blocked by other adjacent towers, if they could actually be built.

The future OKC skyline will likely get more extended and more impressive. But we just may not be able to duplicate the density of towers in the CBD for a long time to come.

Duke Energy, the electric company in Charlotte moved into a tower as well.

http://www.stalite.com/uploads/image/project%20photos/Duke%20Energy%20Center.jpg

They'll probably be building a parking garage then. In the picture that was posted previously with the hypothetical Hong King tower pictured to resemble what the OGE tower could look like, there's a huge gap in the skyline between the Devon Tower and the hypothetical OGE tower. I really hope that the OGE tower is built on the east side of the SC property to close the gap. Something tells me though that they'll probably have a huge park in front of the building on the east side to flow into Myriad Gardens.

I hope its not on the east side, so it doesn't cast shadows in the winter on the Crystal Bridge. Those tropical plants need as much sun in the winter as possible.

I hope its not on the east side, so it doesn't cast shadows in the winter on the Crystal Bridge. Those tropical plants need as much sun in the winter as possible.
The issue about shadows on the Crystal Bridge has been discussed a number of times at OKCTALK. It's really just not going to be a problem. The sun moves all day long and the periods of shadows there are minimal compared to what would be necessary to cause a problem.

I hope its not on the east side, so it doesn't cast shadows in the winter on the Crystal Bridge. Those tropical plants need as much sun in the winter as possible.

It's a 600+ foot tower...it could be put on the elementary site and it would cast shadows...

I'm 90% sure it's OG+E but I have to say, the lid has been kept very tight on all this.

Amazing in this day and age!

its oge.

its oge.

Care to elaborate? :)

Care to elaborate? :)

I think buylow is 100% sure it's OG&E, not 90% sure as Pete is.

I think buylow is 100% sure it's OG&E, not 90% sure as Pete is.

Uh-huh... and the source of that confidence is...... what, pray tell? Enquiring minds want to know!

Care to elaborate? :)

i wish i could.

i wish i could.

Rats!

Ok, I believe you anyway (because I pretty much assumed it was OG&E already, based on others).
But hey, if you feel like getting any other info about the tower off your chest, feel free! :)

So is it Friday... or Monday?

i wish i could.

Maybe buylow plays golf with Patrick.

Maybe buylow plays golf with Patrick.

No. They're in the same bible study.

The announcement better not come out tomorrow, because I have an afternoon tee time and an evening Bible study on Friday! Lol!

Maybe he'll announce it to you at Bible study. You can share the divine proverb from the mountain before he announces on Monday.

I'd like to request that after the 'tower' is announced, maybe we can start a 'Mystery Tower II' thread....for the next one.

Whoever bulds it they better put a Del Rancho in there somewhere. Massive failure without one no matter the size.

I started this thread. I think I can manage a Mystery Tower part II thread.

Just keep the same thread going... It can be a permanent place for tower speculation. Actually, hasn't it already done that? It's not like OG&E tower was the only possible tower discussed. The board doesn't need more threads IMHO.

Just keep the same thread going... It can be a permanent place for tower speculation. Actually, hasn't it already done that? It's not like OG&E tower was the only possible tower discussed. The board doesn't need more threads IMHO.

I just thought we could run into a page limit ?

the announcement is not coming Friday. it is coming before Wednesday of next week...

the announcement is not coming Friday. it is coming before Wednesday of next week...

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lame:

Man, an announcement tomm would have made my weekend, now we have to wait until as long as Wednesday? This sucks....then Wednesday will come and next they will say by the end of August, this thing keeps dragging out...

Still trying to get more info on the announcement but it seems likely this is going to be pushed into early next week.

Man, an announcement tomm would have made my weekend, now we have to wait until as long as Wednesday? This sucks....then Wednesday will come and next they will say by the end of August, this thing keeps dragging out...

I want to tell you to shut up & quit running off whining & saying stuff like that when the announcement doesn't happen when you want it to, but honestly, that's pretty much how this whole thing has gone. Biggest difference is we've never had any particular dates set like we do now, just a bunch of "before the end of the month.... I think" stuff.

It would have been nice for them to make an announcement tomm while the 900 chamber members from other cities visiting OKC were here for that conference, that would have been a big show off for OKC, but doesn't look like that's going to happen...oh well...

Ok, somebody out there's gotta know something: barber, mechanic, waitress, maid, hooker... Surely someone's overheard stuff.

I don't see why what they wanted to announce Friday has to wait until Monday morning, like they will really be working on this over the weekend? Unless they are waiting from people to fly in from out of town who are attending announcement like the archtecture firm, CenterPoint, and ArchLight executives, if need be?

I understand there was some sort of scheduling problem; don't know any more than that.

I'm sure high ranking public officials and officers of the company would be present. Probably discovered that some of them had meetings or other time that could not be rescheduled at the last moment.

the announcement is not coming Friday. it is coming before Wednesday of next week...

On the bright side, we're going to get an announcement of something big !

I understand there was some sort of scheduling problem; don't know any more than that.

In other words, someone is out of town until early next week.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lame:

Another delay? Keep hope alive

Another delay? Keep hope alive

I hope the unthinkable doesn't happen and nothing ends up being announced. That's going to make all this hype and speculation very embarrassing.

I don't think that will be the case though. I think OKC is about to get a huge announcement, though not as big as some of what has been speculated here.

Another delay? Keep hope alive

You seriously kill me with your attitude.

Nobody is asking for constant sunshine pumping, but why do you bother even coming here if all you have nothing positive to add?

Stage Center sold | The Journal Record (http://journalrecord.com/2013/07/25/stage-center-sold-real-estate/)

OMG, It's a building boom...!!!

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk92/gandjdunlap/NewTowerFun-6.jpg (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/gandjdunlap/media/NewTowerFun-6.jpg.html)

Stage Center sold | The Journal Record (http://journalrecord.com/2013/07/25/stage-center-sold-real-estate/)

According to the article we still might get some sort of announcement tomm!

OMG, It's a building boom...!!!

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk92/gandjdunlap/NewTowerFun-6.jpg (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/gandjdunlap/media/NewTowerFun-6.jpg.html)

I kind of like that, with the Devon tower remaining the most prominent and also being the dividing line in the skyline between modern and classic.

How about something like this?

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_2sBmtiVwifo/SySTlYu-GqI/AAAAAAAAA7Q/IWohFjSAXQQ/Urban-Forest.jpg

^ A stack of dirty plates ?

How about something like this?

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_2sBmtiVwifo/SySTlYu-GqI/AAAAAAAAA7Q/IWohFjSAXQQ/Urban-Forest.jpg

What the......

Oh, so that's what happened to all of Boss Hogg's old hats.





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http://lh4.ggpht.com/_2sBmtiVwifo/SySTlYu-GqI/AAAAAAAAA7Q/IWohFjSAXQQ/Urban-Forest.jpg

Downtown Oklahoma City to get new tower | News OK (http://newsok.com/article/3866102)


Downtown Oklahoma City to get new tower
New high-rise will top 20 stories, and will be built on the current site of the Stage Center theater.

How about something like this?

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_2sBmtiVwifo/SySTlYu-GqI/AAAAAAAAA7Q/IWohFjSAXQQ/Urban-Forest.jpg

LOL, um, no. That building looks like a mummy.

Downtown Oklahoma City to get new tower | News OK (http://newsok.com/downtown-oklahoma-city-to-get-new-tower/article/3866102)

20 story highrise! Still could be 30-40 floors,Devon first announced 37 for the Devon tower!