Midland, Kansas City, St. Louis, Tulsa, Little Rock, Wichita, Omaha, Memphis.....those are the cities we need to try to take headquarters away from -especially the Oil and Gas businesses. First rule in warfare is to avoid going heads up against a superior foe, especially against their strength. It's hard to argue taking an energy business from Houston. But taking one from Kansas City should be easier for us. We need to not be obsessed with Houston or think we are ready to flex our muscle next to them. It might happen occasionally when there is some unique reason, but as a matter of common occurrence.....it just isn't going to happen.

Like! Exactly this. We need to capitalize on being Oklahoma City, we're better for your O&G company but without all the mess of Houston.

The only difinitive building in downtown Houston is the former PenzTower.....looks like 3 staggered towers merged together. It's on the left side of the picture.

The red one with the triangular tops? That was the only one I liked.

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Guys, I don't mean to sound short, but this is my only escape from Houston. I spend every weekday in downtown Houston. I come on here to read about Oklahoma City, not Houston. Let's please get back on topic, or at least something OKC related.

How about this: Steve releases an amazing article about a new downtown tower within the next 2 months. Sincerely do not think it will be within the next 17 days. Sorry if I burst someone's time capsule bubble...

I'm done talking about a mystery tower, this is getting ridiculous already. When it happens, it happens.

I'm done talking about a mystery tower, this is getting ridiculous already. When it happens, it happens.

You've posted this same thing about 15 times in this thread... Something tells me Youll be back.

Midland, Kansas City, St. Louis, Tulsa, Little Rock, Wichita, Omaha, Memphis.....those are the cities we need to try to take headquarters away from -especially the Oil and Gas businesses. First rule in warfare is to avoid going heads up against a superior foe, especially against their strength. It's hard to argue taking an energy business from Houston. But taking one from Kansas City should be easier for us. We need to not be obsessed with Houston or think we are ready to flex our muscle next to them. It might happen occasionally when there is some unique reason, but as a matter of common occurrence.....it just isn't going to happen.

Do you think we are seriously "at war" with Houston? I doubt our Chamber folk are savvy enough to proactively fly to Houston and such to try and lure companies away, as much as they are fielding INBOUND requests from companies CONSIDERING RELOCATION. I agree with the premise you mention, but I would be surprised if we have much proactivity on outbound recruiting.

This came out a couple of days ago from Fitch on ratings for the new CNP/OGE midstream MLP. Some interesting info, some we've seen, some we've not seen -

Fitch Expects to Assign an Initial Rating of 'BBB' to CenterPoint and OGE's Midstream Joint Venture (http://www.cnbc.com/id/100564999)

Do you think we are seriously "at war" with Houston? I doubt our Chamber folk are savvy enough to proactively fly to Houston and such to try and lure companies away, as much as they are fielding INBOUND requests from companies CONSIDERING RELOCATION. I agree with the premise you mention, but I would be surprised if we have much proactivity on outbound recruiting.

Yes, our Econ development staff does recruit if they feel we have a chance. And no, don't parse each word for literal translation... We are not at WAR. LOL. But competitive principals apply.

Do you think we are seriously "at war" with Houston? I doubt our Chamber folk are savvy enough to proactively fly to Houston and such to try and lure companies away, as much as they are fielding INBOUND requests from companies CONSIDERING RELOCATION. I agree with the premise you mention, but I would be surprised if we have much proactivity on outbound recruiting.

Well I geuess that everyone allowed to be wrong every once in a while. So....the fact is that the Chamber's ED group DOES make regular call trips to other major cities including Houston. They actually wre in Houston as recently as 2 months ago as well as the west coast, Boston, Ohio....well I think you can get the drift.

Well I geuess that everyone allowed to be wrong every once in a while. So....the fact is that the Chamber's ED group DOES make regular call trips to other major cities including Houston. They actually wre in Houston as recently as 2 months ago as well as the west coast, Boston, Ohio....well I think you can get the drift.
I think we're a great city for most any business. I'd like to see more diversification of our local economy and see some companies look our way that aren't directly related to oil and gas..

I think we're a great city for most any business. I'd like to see more diversification of our local economy and see some companies look our way that aren't directly related to oil and gas..

You are correct. There are several no companies that are not oil and gas related who are looking at us right now. One that I know is looking to locate in 100,000sf of calss A office space. OKC is on the short list.

You are correct. There are several no companies that are not oil and gas related who are looking at us right now. One that I know is looking to locate in 100,000sf of calss A office space. OKC is on the short list.

What industries?

No kidding...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9322497/Photos/houstonsurfaceparking.jpg

Wow, that is awful. I'm sure it's not all like that, but that's exactly what we should avoid. Unfortunately, every time something gets torn down, we just delay more infill.

What industries?

The one that I mentioned previously is a Finanacial services company. Looking to open a central office.

You are correct. There are several no companies that are not oil and gas related who are looking at us right now. One that I know is looking to locate in 100,000sf of calss A office space. OKC is on the short list.

Several no companies or several number of companies? The latter would be great since everyone here knows that that is what OKC needs in order to sustain as a big league city when energy use transitions away from fossil fuels.

Several no companies or several number of companies? The latter would be great since everyone here knows that that is what OKC needs in order to sustain as a big league city when energy use transitions away from fossil fuels.

The really are several different types. Yes a lot of energy realred as well. OKC had 2 site visits last week. Neither of wich are potential tower candidates

The really are several different types. Yes a lot of energy realred as well. OKC had 2 site visits last week. Neither of wich are potential tower candidates

Gary, slow down, take a breath and spell check. Haha

Wow, that is awful. I'm sure it's not all like that, but that's exactly what we should avoid. Unfortunately, every time something gets torn down, we just delay more infill.

I know a lot of people are fixated on the skyline, but I am more interested in the hemline. What’s going on around the bottom is much more interesting.

Gary, slow down, take a breath and spell check. Haha

Yea, I hear you. My Ipad is a little touchy.

Yea, I hear you. My Ipad is a little touchy.

I'm just giving you a hard time. No worries!

How likely is it OKC lands some of these companies you're hearing about?

I know a lot of people are fixated on the skyline, but I am more interested in the hemline. What’s going on around the bottom is much more interesting.

We still talking about buildings, JtF? :D

I know a lot of people are fixated on the skyline, but I am more interested in the hemline. What’s going on around the bottom is much more interesting.

Get your mind out of the gutter JTF.

Get your mind out of the gutter JTF.

That all depends on the gutter. :)

I wanted to stop by this thread, since I havent done so in over over 2 months, to say that I'll believe this mystery Tower once I see it all over channels 4, 5, and 9

I wanted to stop by this thread, since I havent done so in over over 2 months, to say that I'll believe this mystery Tower once I see it all over channels 4, 5, and 9

Hey Soonerboy18,
This is about 'speculation & ideas', we have figured out 1). Someone is looking at the Stage center site 2). It's going to be a very large tower and 3). It's pointing to an MLP with Enogex and CenterPoint.

You have not heard any of that on Channels 4, 5 or 9 yet have you ?

This is like figuring out a puzzle.....fun

Hey Soonerboy18,
This is about 'speculation & ideas', we have figured out 1). Someone is looking at the Stage center site 2). It's going to be a very large tower and 3). It's pointing to an MLP with Enogex and CenterPoint.

You have not heard any of that on Channels 4, 5 or 9 yet have you ?

This is like figuring out a puzzle.....fun

Well I hope it doesn't lead to failure

So what's the situation here? Is "thee" tower still expected to be announced very (VERY) soon?

So what's the situation here? Is "thee" tower still expected to be announced very (VERY) soon?

Was wondering the same thing. Have we heard anything from Steve lately, or has he gone into seclusion on this?

Was wondering the same thing. Have we heard anything from Steve lately, or has he gone into seclusion on this?

He is putting the finishing touches on his latest story about the new stage center tower.

Not really.

He is putting the finishing touches on his latest story about the new stage center tower.

Not really.

Wouldn't that be nice! But on a serious note (as serious as you can get in a speculative thread) as soon as the MLP announcement was made, Steve pretty much went silent. This indicates, in my very humble and naive opinion, that we are getting close to more concrete information.

Wouldn't that be nice! But on a serious note (as serious as you can get in a speculative thread) as soon as the MLP announcement was made, Steve pretty much went silent. This indicates, in my very humble and naive opinion, that we are getting close to more concrete information.

We know for a fact that we are getting a new... something. Otherwise Beffort is getting burned at the stake (figuratively). We just don't know when, which is driving everyone on this board bat-s#it insane.

Nice avatars, gentlemen.

What was that tower being built in Midland for? Is it really being built or was it just speculation? Anyone who has been to Midland will know, it's not exactly a 5 star city. I couldn't believe that someone building a building of that size would choose Midland over Houston(if it had to built in Texas). Was it the MLP everyone was talking about?

We know for a fact that we are getting a new... something.

No. We don't. Deals fall through all time. While indications are good, there's no such thing as a done deal until its done. This assumption is rampant on this thread, and I've been warning against this logic for a year now. We'll see...

^^^^ Tru dat

no. We don't. Deals fall through all time. While indications are good, there's no such thing as a done deal until its done. This assumption is rampant on this thread, and i've been warning against this logic for a year now. We'll see...

Lalalala! I can't hear you!

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Also:

No new information on the "mystery tower".

New live chat rules:

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Also:

No new information on the "mystery tower".

So don't ask.

So don't ask.
I'm beginning to fear we've been set up for the biggest dissapointment in the the history of this board. Hope like heck I'm wrong.

No. We don't. Deals fall through all time. While indications are good, there's no such thing as a done deal until its done. This assumption is rampant on this thread, and I've been warning against this logic for a year now. We'll see...

+1.

I don't post often, but thought I would chime in, doesn't look like a tower is coming anytime soon, maybe next year.

I don't post often, but thought I would chime in, doesn't look like a tower is coming anytime soon, maybe next year.

Well that sucks, it sounds like someone was just playing fun little games. simple yes or no on this issue would have been nice, it would have saved us at least 50 pages on this thread. Oh well. We will all know is a couple weeks if it was all true or not, if nothing is announced, then we all know we got played :)

I don't post often, but thought I would chime in, doesn't look like a tower is coming anytime soon, maybe next year.

Um, sure. OK.....

I don't post often, but thought I would chime in, doesn't look like a tower is coming anytime soon, maybe next year.

You've posted twice in 3 years, come join in more often.

Um, sure. OK.....

Steve... why must you keep teasing us!!!!!

Steve... why must you keep teasing us!!!!!

I think to get a kick out of it :).. We all have a couple more weeks of finding out. Lets all calm down and chill out, if nothing comes to this by mid april them I say we can string him up.....Who would have thought a possible mystery tower would make such a big deal.

I still think there will be an announcement regarding the Stage Center site within the next 1-3 months.

I still think there will be an announcement regarding the Stage Center site within the next 1-3 months.

I was hoping for 1-3 weeks!!!! now maybe 1-3 months!!! hope the next post will not be 1-3 years

Haha. Someone asked Steve what they could expect in 3 years when they return from the big apple, and Steve said he expects a skyscraper to be coming out of the ground. So, there's your 3 years prediction.

Construction will be going on, not a complete tower too.

Construction will be going on, not a complete tower too.

Keep in mind, what we know is that it'll be a very big tower. Not every company would have such a rigorous building schedule that Devon did. It could be topped out but not finished in 3 years.

Not to mention it could be announced in 1-3 months and still be going up in 3 years. People need to chill.

Not to mention it could be announced in 1-3 months and still be going up in 3 years. People need to chill.

Metro, I think you need to relax a little. It was just ironic that Jesseda said she hoped the next post wouldn't be 1-3 years and then someone in the chat got Steve's prediction of a tower going up in 3 years this morning. It was humorous. Chill pill, bro!

LOL, I am relaxed, I was advising the others freaking out about a tower may or may not happen in 3 years to chill.....

Alright everybody

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Well that sucks, it sounds like someone was just playing fun little games. simple yes or no on this issue would have been nice, it would have saved us at least 50 pages on this thread. Oh well. We will all know is a couple weeks if it was all true or not, if nothing is announced, then we all know we got played :)No one got played here. I actually still think something is happening, I can't say for sure though. I really appreciate all that Steve has contributed and the effort he has put into this and if the "deal" were truly dead, I'm sure he would've said something about it. So, I wouldn't just say "it's over" or "were certainly going to get a tower". As a previous poster pointed out, nothing is certain until an official deal is done. Even if a deal were to happen, it could put on hold or even canceled, so I wouldn't be completely satisfied until we have a tower built and standing.

Steve Lackmeyer: In three years, Deep Deuce will be Oklahoma's first mixed-use downtown neighborhood | News OK (http://newsok.com/steve-lackmeyer-in-three-years-deep-deuce-will-be-oklahomas-first-mixed-use-downtown-neighborhood/article/3768442)


What will downtown and the surrounding Oklahoma City area be like in three years?
The Bricktown skyline will be dramatically different in three years. A new skyscraper will likely be coming out of the ground. The boathouse district will be a 21st Century Delmar Gardens. Work will be underway on the new boulevard and park. MidTown will be as densely built up as Deep Deuce is now. And Deep Deuce will be fully developed as the first fully mature mixed use downtown neighborhood in the entire state. Yes, I see all this being quite possible in three years. Copy and paste this prediction. I'm sticking with it.

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That's all great! I predict that the 1st tower will be or near completed within 3 years and another one will be sprouting out of the earth. Maybe more.