We need JTF and sid to replace Eric Wenger and Jim Couch, LOL.

We need JTF and sid to replace Eric Wenger and Jim Couch, LOL.

It would be an improvement.

We need JTF and sid to replace Eric Wenger and Jim Couch, LOL.

+1

Any coincidence that this story came out last Friday after the Centerpoint/OGE announcement?
Hines moves ahead with downtown office tower, reports say - Houston Business Journal (http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/morning_call/2013/03/hines-plans-another-downtown-office.html)

Hines Interests is pushing ahead with plans to construct another major downtown Houston office tower on the southwest corner of Main and Texas Avenue ............ CultureMap reports that the 41-story tower would be known as “609 Main at Travis,” and would contain 815,000 square feet of space, according to a new Hines marketing brochure. Construction of the project would not begin unless an anchor tenant was secured, the company said. CultureMap reports that commercial real estate sector observers say Hines is close to securing a key tenant and that the tower could be finished by 2016.

http://houston.culturemap.com/newsdetail/03-14-13-hines-touts-new-41-story-skyscraper-in-downtown-houston/

HOUSTON | 600 Main | ? FT | 48 FLOORS - SkyscraperPage Forum (http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6055389)

http://media.culturemap.com/cache/fd/dd/fddd947b8df70f56e2ae58b3b0354546.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w208/houtosme/609B-1_zps4ca49332.jpg

So... did we just confirm this won't be happening in OKC?

So... did we just confirm this won't be happening in OKC?

No. Nothing will be confirmed until its confirmed. This thread should be renamed the jump-to-conclusions thread.

Haha good point.... upon closer inspection I concluded that if this Hines project happens to be linked to the CP/OGE deal, then it may happen to be this.

That rendering does have quite a few similarities to the Devon building's architecture

A bit more info on the MLP here:

OGE Energy, CenterPoint Energy shares rise on pipeline partnership deal | News OK (http://newsok.com/oge-energy-centerpoint-energy-shares-rise-on-pipeline-partnership-deal/article/3766376)



The partnership's name and the location of its headquarters are expected to be revealed before
the transaction closes. Its management team will be announced after regulatory approvals.


I should hope so, as the deal looks like it won't be closed for months -- all the regulatory hurdles, etc.



“The new company will continue to have a significant presence in Oklahoma City, Houston and Shreveport, La.,” Alford said


Hmm... "will continue to have"? That's awkward phrasing, given that the new company doesn't exist yet.
Presumably it means they'll try to minimize disruptive relocations, but I hope that it mainly refers to field workers.

What's a significant presence in Houston mean, I wonder? And who is in Shreveport?

I'm still a bit confused about the whole thing.

So... did we just confirm this won't be happening in OKC?

The Hines project has been in the works for a few years, but just now coming to fruition. The Houston economy is booming, this tower could be for anybody, lol.

Fitch Affirms OGE's Ratings Following JV Announcement | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/18/ny-fitch-ratings-idr-idUSnBwbDF883a+130+BSW20130318)

Key blurb:

OGE's leverage metrics will slightly benefit from the JV formation in the near
term due to the disproportionate allocation of economic interest. OGE's portion
of Enogex's earnings currently represents approximately 27% of the total
earnings at the JV while it will receive 28% of the economic interest. However,
such uplift will be offset by the expected large capital expenditure program at
its regulated subsidiary Oklahoma Gas and Electric (OG&E) which will also likely
incur an elevated level of environmental capital spending in the next several
years.

(in my terms, OGE is about to start spending some serious money, lol)

Fitch Affirms OGE's Ratings Following JV Announcement | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/18/ny-fitch-ratings-idr-idUSnBwbDF883a+130+BSW20130318)

Key blurb:

OGE's leverage metrics will slightly benefit from the JV formation in the near
term due to the disproportionate allocation of economic interest. OGE's portion
of Enogex's earnings currently represents approximately 27% of the total
earnings at the JV while it will receive 28% of the economic interest. However,
such uplift will be offset by the expected large capital expenditure program at
its regulated subsidiary Oklahoma Gas and Electric (OG&E) which will also likely
incur an elevated level of environmental capital spending in the next several
years.

(in my terms, OGE is about to start spending some serious money, lol)

Exactly!

Let's look at the phrase "expected large capital expenditure program at... OG&E".

From dictionary.reference.com


capital expenditure:
noun Accounting, Finance.
an addition to the value of fixed assets, as by the purchase of a new building.


Another quote from the Fitch Ratings report, further down:



Fitch expects OGE's liquidity to improve as a result of the transaction.


(where "transaction" refers to the MLP)

So... the auditors are expecting large capital expenditures from OG&E in the near future, and the new MLP is expected to be a good source of liquidity for the company (as Enogex probably already is)

Therefore... more fuel for the speculation that OG&E is planning to build a new tower downtown.

I still think that OGE will build a new tower but, the expected large capital expenditure that the article is refering would be a new power plant.

Look at the phrase again and focus on the word "enivormental" then remember that OG+E is currently in court with the EPA. The EPA has said that OG+E has to either put scrubbers in place or build a new plant.

Here is a link to the Hines project that is mentioned above. The articles also has some interesting comments about the new Conoco Phillips hq.

Latest Hines project in Houston gets splashy unveiling next week - Houston Business Journal (http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/print-edition/2012/03/30/latest-hines-project-in-houston-gets.html)

Seems as though details about the new Conoco Phillips hq are very hard to come by. hummmmmm

I still think that OGE will build a new tower but, the expected large capital expenditure that the article is refering would be a new power plant.

Look at the phrase again and focus on the word "enivormental" then remember that OG+E is currently in court with the EPA. The EPA has said that OG+E has to either put scrubbers in place or build a new plant.

Ah bummer. Well I was afraid that there was a more mundane explanation.
:(

Still, it would appear that the new MLP is going to help OG&E's bottom line.

I still think that OGE will build a new tower but, the expected large capital expenditure that the article is refering would be a new power plant.

Look at the phrase again and focus on the word "enivormental" then remember that OG+E is currently in court with the EPA. The EPA has said that OG+E has to either put scrubbers in place or build a new plant.

Why is OG&E still building coal-fired plants? Geez.

A bit more info on the MLP here:

OGE Energy, CenterPoint Energy shares rise on pipeline partnership deal | News OK (http://newsok.com/oge-energy-centerpoint-energy-shares-rise-on-pipeline-partnership-deal/article/3766376)



I should hope so, as the deal looks like it won't be closed for months -- all the regulatory hurdles, etc.



Hmm... "will continue to have"? That's awkward phrasing, given that the new company doesn't exist yet.
Presumably it means they'll try to minimize disruptive relocations, but I hope that it mainly refers to field workers.

What's a significant presence in Houston mean, I wonder? And who is in Shreveport?

I'm still a bit confused about the whole thing.

I'm trying to be optimistic here, but this does not sound good for OKC. Looks like we'll lose some jobs at the minimum.

Both Houston and Okc have "mystery towers" being discussed for a new corporate HQ, both set to be officially announced very soon?

A bit more info on the MLP here:

OGE Energy, CenterPoint Energy shares rise on pipeline partnership deal | News OK (http://newsok.com/oge-energy-centerpoint-energy-shares-rise-on-pipeline-partnership-deal/article/3766376)



I should hope so, as the deal looks like it won't be closed for months -- all the regulatory hurdles, etc.



Hmm... "will continue to have"? That's awkward phrasing, given that the new company doesn't exist yet.
Presumably it means they'll try to minimize disruptive relocations, but I hope that it mainly refers to field workers.

What's a significant presence in Houston mean, I wonder? And who is in Shreveport?

I'm still a bit confused about the whole thing.

The Haynesville shale play distribution network. Just like the 5 plays in Oklahoma that OG&E is in, CNP is in the Haynesville around Shreveport and Barnett just north of Ft. Worth. The resource base and pipeline grid is closer to OKC than Houston, and that is a good thing.

I think it's coming here, just too much confirmation from Beffort and Steve in a roundabout way.

Stay calm an re-read Steve.

"I'm not worried." -Steve 3:16

Oh no ---- this MLP must be the tenant in the 59 story tower proposed for Midland.

j/k... there really is a tower proposal there though.

Developer: New tower to help show Midland as the ?Oil Capital of America? - Mywesttexas.com: Top Stories (http://www.mywesttexas.com/top_stories/article_3d45e4f6-9000-11e2-ad2a-0019bb2963f4.html)

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State of The Art Building Coming To Downtown Midland - KWES NewsWest 9 / Midland, Odessa, Big Spring, TX: newswest9.com | (http://www.newswest9.com/story/21674682/a-state-of-the-art-builing-coming-to-downtown-midland)

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State of The Art Building Coming To Downtown Midland - KWES NewsWest 9 / Midland, Odessa, Big Spring, TX: newswest9.com | (http://www.newswest9.com/story/21674682/a-state-of-the-art-builing-coming-to-downtown-midland)

Sweet Jeebus that is a pretty skyscraper.

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Bankofamerica-atlanta-feb09.jpg

It's funny, I saw this post as I was standing at a crosswalk on Baker St NW & looked up to cross the street & saw the BoA Plaza. One of those "hey, that's pretty cool" moments.

Sweet Jeebus that is a pretty skyscraper.

Yep, that's a nice looking tower in the rendering:

http://i.imgur.com/gn1GTJs.jpg


Cmon, OKC... we can't let Midland beat us out on the tower front, for goodness sake!
:wink:

Wow, talk about out of place...this will really stick out, Midland, really? When places like Midland, Tx start building 900ft skyscrapers, something is wrong, lol.

The Haynesville shale play distribution network. Just like the 5 plays in Oklahoma that OG&E is in, CNP is in the Haynesville around Shreveport and Barnett just north of Ft. Worth. The resource base and pipeline grid is closer to OKC than Houston, and that is a good thing.

I think it's coming here, just too much confirmation from Beffort and Steve in a roundabout way.

For all the talk of a company or companies coming to OKC and building a significant tower in DT OKC, we seem to forget the number of times cities, Houston in particular has absorbed one of OKC's companies. With the problems being faced by Chesapeake and Sandridge, how can any of us really be confident in OKC's long term oil future outside of Continental and Devon? I really suggest we not forget how many times the city has been changed by takeover and move of a corporate presence. A company moving a major corporate entity TO OKC FROM Houston, I'll believe it when I see it.

dcsooner, we don't know if the corporate entity is coming from Houston. But a deal for a new tower for a new corporate entity is in the works. That's all we know. Given the struggles of Chesapeake and Sandridge, we are missing the positives. Chesapeake is performing better than it has in the recent past. Sandridge ended its proxy fight with TPG-Axon. That isn't to say we are in the clear. We are certainly not. However, failure is not a guarantee, either. We over-react every time an OKC company so much as eeks.

Lest we forget that Larry Nichols admits that if OKC didn't experience the resurgence, Houston would have been the location for their HQ. And Continental could have gone to Houston, but did not. And, Devon moved its Houston office to OKC. To me, that is 3 solid victories over Houston. I hope for more.

dcsooner, we don't know if the corporate entity is coming from Houston. But a deal for a new tower for a new corporate entity is in the works. That's all we know. Given the struggles of Chesapeake and Sandridge, we are missing the positives. Chesapeake is performing better than it has in the recent past. Sandridge ended its proxy fight with TPG-Axon. That isn't to say we are in the clear. We are certainly not. However, failure is not a guarantee, either. We over-react every time an OKC company so much as eeks.

Lest we forget that Larry Nichols admits that if OKC didn't experience the resurgence, Houston would have been the location for their HQ. And Continental could have gone to Houston, but did not. And, Devon moved its Houston office to OKC. To me, that is 3 solid victories over Houston. I hope for more.

OKCpulse, I truly hope you are correct in your outlook, because I so badly want OKC to break out as a Corporate location. I'm just hedging my bet to avoid disappointment. Thanks for reminding me of the postives

Nothing wrong with hedging. I totally understand where you are coming from. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

I was told last summer bt one of their executives that OG&E was forced by the feds to build a coal fired plant several years ago (I assume to support the coal industry) and now the feds want it closd down. It is not that easy when OGE was forced to invest millions ina coal plant only to have that reversed years later. They have at least one coal plant but I don't think they are building more.

For all the talk of a company or companies coming to OKC and building a significant tower in DT OKC, we seem to forget the number of times cities, Houston in particular has absorbed one of OKC's companies. With the problems being faced by Chesapeake and Sandridge, how can any of us really be confident in OKC's long term oil future outside of Continental and Devon? I really suggest we not forget how many times the city has been changed by takeover and move of a corporate presence. A company moving a major corporate entity TO OKC FROM Houston, I'll believe it when I see it.

+1

I disagree completely.

Any time you build, the public has an interest. That's why we have zoning laws and design standards. It's well within the city's rights to insist that the ground floor of a building, even one built by a private company, be accessible to the public. We aren't talking about a private residence, we're talking about a place of business downtown. If you're looking for a secure facility where you have to scan a key card for the front door to open, then downtown is the wrong place for you. Go build somewhere else.

I've never said that I think downtown towers SHOULD NOT have good public interaction... But, the fact is it isn't REQUIRED... and, Devon actually has really awesome public interaction, yet JTF thinks it's not done correctly. So, I have a hard time taking his complaints in this area very seriously.

And, I couldn't agree more with you that if you want a more secure facility, then downtown probably isn't your best bet... but, the irony in that is if any company builds in OKC somewhere other than downtown (maybe even for that reason) they are immediately chided on this forum for not building downtown. lol

So, again, I find it hard to take some of the opinions of the "urbanists" on the board seriously when they are quite obviously very single minded in their scope and vision. I'm all for making downtown better and to keep the current momentum going in the right direction. But, that still doesn't mean EVERYTHING must be done there and done one certain way.

Where? I work in downtown Houston and at this time there are not any major projects underway. They finished a class A tower two years back, and Hess recently completed their new tower, but outside of that, towers are not going up left and right.

Houston's downtown skyline to be reshaped - Houston Chronicle (http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/Houston-s-downtown-skyline-to-be-reshaped-4364923.php?t=fa84c9cb773b9e5e12&t=fa84c9cb77)

Houston's downtown skyline to be reshaped - Houston Chronicle (http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/Houston-s-downtown-skyline-to-be-reshaped-4364923.php?t=fa84c9cb773b9e5e12&t=fa84c9cb77)

okcpulse is right, nothing going up at this time, the article is proposals for the future.

Houston's downtown skyline to be reshaped - Houston Chronicle (http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/Houston-s-downtown-skyline-to-be-reshaped-4364923.php?t=fa84c9cb773b9e5e12&t=fa84c9cb77)

This article properly explains why Oklahoma and more specifically OKC should be trying to persuade some of these companies to relocate. With rent prices going up, and a major lack of space, OKC should be able to be presented as a much cheaper alternative

Houston has several office projects going up outside of downtown...needless to say Houston is booming, and they have various projects under construction and on drawing boards.

I don't think we need to worry about Houston. We don't need to directly compete with them for every company. Our economy will do very well if we can just protect our own businesses. We'll succeed tremendously if we just pick off one of their companies. Both cities can do well without having to harm the other. Sure it would be great if Exxon relocated to OKC, but that's a battle to be fought in 20 or 30 years.

OKC and Houston really can't be compared in this manner. They are booming and have been for years now. They get new 'Mystery Towers' all the time and due to their lack of zoning laws, they aren't always downtown. Houston has so much momentum as well. OKC is quite frankly a small town compared to Houston.

It is a very exciting time for people living in Houston with these new towers going up.

I don't think we need to worry about Houston. We don't need to directly compete with them for every company. Our economy will do very well if we can just protect our own businesses. We'll succeed tremendously if we just pick off one of their companies. Both cities can do well without having to harm the other. Sure it would be great if Exxon relocated to OKC, but that's a battle to be fought in 20 or 30 years.

at no point did i even think about Exxon or any of the other major companies in Houston. I was more thinking the smaller companies that could significantly benefit by the move. I also never said that we needed to go after every company. I just said that we need to be trying to do what we can to show these companies what OKC has to offer. I'd be happy with 5 or 6 100-300 employee energy companies moving to OKC, it doesn't have to be a single massive company. I say lets go for the companies that Houston wouldn't even know were gone, let them become successful Oklahoma companies and grow here.

If we get a large company to come, that's great.

I'd say go after some of these newly formed midstream Master Limited Partnerships ! lol

at no point did i even think about Exxon or any of the other major companies in Houston. I was more thinking the smaller companies that could significantly benefit by the move. I also never said that we needed to go after every company. I just said that we need to be trying to do what we can to show these companies what OKC has to offer. I'd be happy with 5 or 6 100-300 employee energy companies moving to OKC, it doesn't have to be a single massive company. I say lets go for the companies that Houston wouldn't even know were gone, let them become successful Oklahoma companies and grow here.

If we get a large company to come, that's great.

I'm fine with that. It just seems like everyone is getting depressed around here because they think Houston is going to run away with our girlfriends.

^
Yeah, I'm a bit surprised at the glumness here.

As far as OKC is concerned, the only company that "moved" to Houston was Kerr-Mcgee, and by the time they were purchased by Anadarko they were a shell of themselves.

Also, the Devon acquisition of both Mitchell and Ocean Energy brought several hundred Houstonians up here last decade. Continental, SandRidge, etc. are filled with people from Houston who worked for the majors. So don't assume the flow of people and capital is one-way.

In terms of the energy industry, we will always play second fiddle to Houston, in the same way Austin is towards San Jose/San Francisco is with the IT industry. But this isn't 1998. The industry is far more domestic and onshore focused, so the need to be down there is nowhere near what is was even a few years ago.

In terms of the energy industry, we will always play second fiddle to Houston

Some perspective.

http://rwrant.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/H-TownIlow-res.jpg

Some perspective.

http://rwrant.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/H-TownIlow-res.jpg

You know, I'm not really that jealous of Houston's skyline per se -- not in terms of the individual buildings. Yes, they have a jillion more towers than we do, but a lot of them are just dull rectangular boxes.

Admittedly, that changes at nightfall. Then the light display of all those buildings becomes quite spectacular.

For all the towers in downtown Houston - what they seriously lack is 'urban fabric' They have about 20X the vacant lots downtown OKC has. They would have been better off to cut all of their heights by 1/3 and fill in the area a little.

You know, I'm not really that jealous of Houston's skyline per se -- not in terms of the individual buildings. Yes, they have a jillion more towers than we do, but a lot of them are just dull rectangular boxes.

Admittedly, that changes at nightfall. Then the light display of all those buildings becomes quite spectacular.

Ironically that Centerpoint Tower is pretty flipping sweet. It and the BoA tower are the best in downtown Houston (I also like the William's Tower)

You know, I'm not really that jealous of Houston's skyline per se -- not in terms of the individual buildings. Yes, they have a jillion more towers than we do, but a lot of them are just dull rectangular boxes.

Admittedly, that changes at nightfall. Then the light display of all those buildings becomes quite spectacular.

Agreed. The skyline is stunning at night. As is the Galleria area skyline. I've spent a lot of time in Friendswood and Spring through my 20s. Went downtown a lot to party. The picture posted sums it up quite nicely. Empty-ish streets. Ton of towers. Not much if any retail. Their own Legacy-like apartment complex... as seen in the foreground. I love Houston, but OKC is closer to being Houston than Houston is to being NYC or Chicago. It's a more extreme version(for better and worse) of what OKC currently is.... but is it a place to pine after? No. If we don't plan well... we'll be exactly what Houston currently is... in 80-100 years. :eek:

For all the towers in downtown Houston - what they seriously lack is 'urban fabric' They have about 20X the vacant lots downtown OKC has. They would have been better off to cut all of their heights by 1/3 and fill in the area a little.


No kidding...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9322497/Photos/houstonsurfaceparking.jpg

For all the towers in downtown Houston - what they seriously lack is 'urban fabric' They have about 20X the vacant lots downtown OKC has. They would have been better off to cut all of their heights by 1/3 and fill in the area a little.

Houston's skyline is hard to beat. I really like it and find it superior to OKC's no matter how you slice and dice it. I definitely agree they need more infill though. I also think OKC's skyline will look far better after there is another tower or two to balance it out.

I do wonder though, what would be the logistical standpoint of a company relocating from Houston to OKC?

Houston's skyline is hard to beat. I really like it and find it superior to OKC's no matter how you slice and dice it. I definitely agree they need more infill though. I also think OKC's skyline will look far better after there is another tower or two to balance it out.

I do wonder though, what would be the logistical standpoint of a company relocating from Houston to OKC?

Houston's skyline IS hard to beat. It's awesome. So is Kim Kardashian's rear end. Wouldn't want to marry her though. I don't think ANYONE would say that OKC's skyline is superior to Houston's. That's just too obvious a fact to even talk about it. The downtown experience though... is effectively no different than OKC's. Boston or Philly it is not.

As far as logistical reasons to locate/consolidate in OKC opposed to Houston? The reasoning in the Centerpoint/Enogex case has been clearly stated multiple times in this thread. More broadly? No idea... the answer would be too objective. We'll see what happens. :)

Houston's skyline IS hard to beat. It's awesome. So is Kim Kardashian's rear end. Wouldn't want to marry her though. I don't think ANYONE would say that OKC's skyline is superior to Houston's. That's just too obvious a fact to even talk about it. The downtown experience though... is effectively no different than OKC's. Boston or Philly it is not.


:lol2:


As far as logistical reasons to locate/consolidate in OKC opposed to Houston? The reasoning in the Centerpoint/Enogex case has been clearly stated multiple times in this thread. More broadly? No idea... the answer would be too objective. We'll see what happens. :)

OKC has a brilliant personality?
:)

Houston's skyline IS hard to beat. It's awesome. So is Kim Kardashian's rear end. Wouldn't want to marry her though. I don't think ANYONE would say that OKC's skyline is superior to Houston's. That's just too obvious a fact to even talk about it. The downtown experience though... is effectively no different than OKC's. Boston or Philly it is not.

As far as logistical reasons to locate/consolidate in OKC opposed to Houston? The reasoning in the Centerpoint/Enogex case has been clearly stated multiple times in this thread. More broadly? No idea... the answer would be too objective. We'll see what happens. :)

Speaking of great public accessiblity...

:wink:

Wow, talk about out of place...this will really stick out, Midland, really? When places like Midland, Tx start building 900ft skyscrapers, something is wrong, lol.

This what pretty much everyone said about OKC with Devon. People still rag on OKC unecessarily. That's why I make a point of never putting down other cities, like Midland.

This what pretty much everyone said about OKC with Devon. People still rag on OKC unecessarily. That's why I make a point of never putting down other cities, like Midland.

SkyscraperPage Forum - View Single Post - MIDLAND | Energy Tower at City Center | 869 FT | 53 FLOORS (http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6058086&postcount=13)

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http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=6026667&postcount=227

Midland, Kansas City, St. Louis, Tulsa, Little Rock, Wichita, Omaha, Memphis.....those are the cities we need to try to take headquarters away from -especially the Oil and Gas businesses. First rule in warfare is to avoid going heads up against a superior foe, especially against their strength. It's hard to argue taking an energy business from Houston. But taking one from Kansas City should be easier for us. We need to not be obsessed with Houston or think we are ready to flex our muscle next to them. It might happen occasionally when there is some unique reason, but as a matter of common occurrence.....it just isn't going to happen.

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BAHAHA I love how cashville has trolled OKC for years, and 90% of what he spits out is false and just trying to bash OKC... the guy literally has nothing better to do than bash us. I find it quite humorious and love how he takes a few people making speculations about companies and twisting it to make it look like we all think Shell or enter your dream company will be headed to OKC. Always gives me a half chuckle.

Speaking of great public accessiblity...

:wink:

BAM!

That was good. :)

Personally, I'm not at all impressed with Houston's skyline. It's very generic. I can generally recognize the skylines of big US cities. You could have posted that picture above and told me it was Omaha and I'd have believed you. Nothing against big ugly boxes, because every city has those and they add depth to the skyline, but that's about all Houston has. There's very little variation in architectural style there.

And when you consider that Houston has nearly as many people as Chicago, it's got a really pathetic skyline for its size.

BAHAHA I love how cashville has trolled OKC for years, and 90% of what he spits out is false and just trying to bash OKC... the guy literally has nothing better to do than bash us. I find it quite humorious and love how he takes a few people making speculations about companies and twisting it to make it look like we all think Shell or enter your dream company will be headed to OKC. Always gives me a half chuckle.

He's just mad cause Nashville lost the Signature Tower.......talk about a bunch of dreamers

BAM!

That was good. :)

Personally, I'm not at all impressed with Houston's skyline. It's very generic. I can generally recognize the skylines of big US cities. You could have posted that picture above and told me it was Omaha and I'd have believed you. Nothing against big ugly boxes, because every city has those and they add depth to the skyline, but that's about all Houston has. There's very little variation in architectural style there.

And when you consider that Houston has nearly as many people as Chicago, it's got a really pathetic skyline for its size.

The only difinitive building in downtown Houston is the former PenzTower.....looks like 3 staggered towers merged together. It's on the left side of the picture.