If I was to guess what he is saying, it's that a big company is going to be relocating here from Houston. Don't know if he has solid proof and is in the know per say or if he is just going out on a limb. I know Conoco was a name brought up quite a few times, but I don't know what the deal is with them anymore.

Yeah. I'm not even sure where I got "stunned" from now... Lol. A major HQs leaving Houston would be big time.

Everyone waits for the latest post on this thread to be from you...

Of course this won't be the place that Steve unveils any happenings.

A major HQs leaving Houston would be big time.

Definitely. It would make this whole wait worth it if that ends up happening.

Of course this won't be the place that Steve unveils any happenings.

No, but I would expect something like, "You guys will like my story I'm working on for (fill in the blank)"

No, but I would expect something like, "You guys will like my story I'm working on for (fill in the blank)"

Yes, he's big on teasers for posts here and that brings readers to his blog and stories at the Oklahoman.

I'll admit it I check Steve's blog and this thread about ten times a day!lol

Too bad. Their tower could have been in the shape of a giant jalapeno.

... on a stick

<rimshot & apologies to Jeff and Jose>

Steve, if you had your way everyone would quit bugging you about this until around when?

Regardless, I seriously doubt we'll find out about the theoretical new tower in this thread. Which makes me wonder why I read it.

I think the suspense and excitement of a new tower has just grown on everybody. There was not this much excitement leading up to Devon Tower...but it seems like the coverage and construction of Devon Tower has more people interested in downtown development, so now we have more people researching, asking questions, and investigating. I think the greatest part of all this is the anticipation leading up to the announcement, it causes for great conversation and speculation, but once announced I think some interest will die down a bit, at least for me.

I added a few buildings to the skyline. I know this is slightly unrealistic, but it's still fun to dream.

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That's beautiful. I really don't think it unrealistic for the future, though.

Steve, if you had your way everyone would quit bugging you about this until around when?

Take a 45-day moratorium....

Take a 45-day moratorium....

Steve, you tease.

Steve usually only starts teasing like this when we are getting close...lol...but it adds to the anticipation which is great. Moreover, I really do appreciate Steve pushing the limit, and giving us as much information as possible without breaking his silence, its just goes to show how passionate and proud he is about his stories and reputation.

UnFrSakn...you are hilarious!

Not sure "stunned" is the right word. Devon had limited operations there. "Stunned" would be if a major HQs relocated to OKC from Houston.

When discussing the greatest doubters, I was referring to anyone in general, not particularly Houston. The reason I mentioned Houston is some of my die-hard Texas colleagues had a few choice words when news traveled that Devon was closing its Houston office.

I was trying to gauge from Steve just how major this deal might be.

Speaking of Houston, Devon's sign at Two Allen Center is officially dismounted.

My prediction is that one of us posters will break the news first, then Steve will report with official details that we don't have access to.

Take a 45-day moratorium....

I will take an "Oath Of Post", and not post on this thread until April 5, 2013...or until we have official announcement, whichever comes first. This will be my last post...Anybody with me?

*crickets*

I will take an "Oath Of Post", and not post on this thread until April 5, 2013...or until we have official announcement, whichever comes first. This will be my last post...Anybody with me?

Why on earth would I do something like that? I don't think you understand what this thread is for.

I check this thread because just about anyone with any sort of source will post their stuff here. We get Pete saying that CR and OG&E are both trying to purchase land, and then Steve comes in and mentions a third party that he thinks will announce soon. That doesn't mean Pete is incorrect though. I am a generally positive person, and I take this to mean we could have up to 3 towers announced within a year or two. And that's without another Devon building on the Preftakes block.

With the accelerated development of Deep Deuce and East Bricktown, I would suspect that within the next 5 years, those areas will fill up, and we may start seeing development spill over past EK Gaylord/Broadway and start filling up some of the empty land in the CBD. We have had so much available land downtown that it's hard to get the benefits of real density. But we're getting there. Every project that goes up puts us a little closer. A few new towers will eat up a decent amount of land that is either currently empty or might as well be empty. Moreso than a lack of tall towers, downtown OKC suffers from too much one-story construction and too much surface parking or just empty space. Success breeds success, and the more construction that takes place in this area will result in higher and better uses for the remaining land.

The real excitement comes from not just several new towers, but from knowing that each one brings us a big step closer to having a real 24 hour downtown again.

My prediction is that one of us posters will break the news first, then Steve will report with official details that we don't have access to.

Bingo.

When discussing the greatest doubters, I was referring to anyone in general, not particularly Houston. The reason I mentioned Houston is some of my die-hard Texas colleagues had a few choice words when news traveled that Devon was closing its Houston office.

I was trying to gauge from Steve just how major this deal might be.

Speaking of Houston, Devon's sign at Two Allen Center is officially dismounted.

So you don't have any knowledge of the company behind the tower being from Houston?

steve said a 45 moratorium.. In some definition of moratorium it describes "An authorization to a debtor, such as a bank or nation, permitting temporary suspension of payments".. hmmm could this be a hint to a large bank company building a 45 story building downtown???

Take a 45-day moratorium....

Great.... so, there will be an announcement on April 1st, and we will all wonder if it's an April Fools prank...

:p

I'm thrilled to learn there may be another legitimate player beyond OG&E and Continental, which both seem to be very real.

steve said a 45 moratorium.. In some definition of moratorium it describes "An authorization to a debtor, such as a bank or nation, permitting temporary suspension of payments".. hmmm could this be a hint to a large bank company building a 45 story building downtown???

Riddle me this, Batman...

I'm thrilled to learn there may be another legitimate player beyond OG&E and Continental, which both seem to be very real.

By the beard of Zeus!

Generic Calendar/Clock - Countdown to Apr 5, 2013 9:04 AM in Oklahoma City (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20130405T0904&p0=184&msg=Steve+Promised)

generic calendar/clock - countdown to apr 5, 2013 9:04 am in oklahoma city (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20130405t0904&p0=184&msg=steve+promised)

oh. My. God.

Ha, I had already made one...

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20130405T10&p0=184&msg=Mystery+Tower+Announcement

By the way this would be the Live NewsOK Business chat...

This is such an AMAZING time for OKC! We have some many things going on right now. 5 years ago we would have been going crazy over just 2 of the many things either under construction, proposed or on the drawing board. The Maywood Apartments alone would have caused an uproar 5 years ago. Now we have that, Level, Edge, 8 or so UC/Proposed hotels, convention center, the River projects, streetcar, the garages, Sandridge updates (Fingers crossed they will continue momentum,) retail being added what seems like daily and not to mention 1, 2 or maybe even 3 new towers!!!!! I am taking this for granted, as much as I am trying not to. So excited and proud to live in OKC!

oh. My. God.

I was cracking up as I made it, I can't wait for Steve's reaction! :D

I will take an "Oath Of Post", and not post on this thread until April 5, 2013...or until we have official announcement, whichever comes first. This will be my last post...Anybody with me?

I'm with you. I'll view, but I'm not going to post until it's in the new thread for the next new tower.


Great.... so, there will be an announcement on April 1st, and we will all wonder if it's an April Fools prank...

:p

Starting tomorrow, 45 days is April 3rd ;)

A countdown clock? You're taking me quite literally, aren't you?
Can I add "give or take" a few weeks depending on due diligence? Also keep in mind, if a fall off the fiscal cliff does take place, and if it's a worst case scenario, nothing is certain. Ditto for if Chesapeake and SandRidge are sold and moved out of state in the next 90 days.

A countdown clock? You're taking me quite literally, aren't you?
Can I add "give or take" a few weeks depending on due diligence? Also keep in mind, if a fall off the fiscal cliff does take place, and if it's a worst case scenario, nothing is certain. Ditto for if Chesapeake and SandRidge are sold and moved out of state in the next 90 days.

Oh, for the love of gawd...

Not gonna happen.

Not saying it's going to happen. But I'm just wanting to remind everyone - the situation is still very fluid.

A countdown clock? You're taking me quite literally, aren't you?
Can I add "give or take" a few weeks depending on due diligence? Also keep in mind, if a fall off the fiscal cliff does take place, and if it's a worst case scenario, nothing is certain. Ditto for if Chesapeake and SandRidge are sold and moved out of state in the next 90 days.

Ha ha - just having a little fun Steve. I promise I won't ask you about "The Tower" for another 44 days, 13 hours, 48 minutes! :D

All I know about an out of towner coming in is that I have heard Shell 5 times this week.

I don't believe it but for some reason people keep mentioning Shell. Why would Shell build a tower in downtown OKC? Is there any connection here in OKC that would bring Shell into the picture? Like I said,I don't believe it but just throwing it out there because I keep hearing this.

^
Shell could be in the facilitator in all of this, possibly relocating staff to, say, Continental's buildings, and CRT possibly building a tower.

I have actually heard rumors of Shell, and I did notice at a convention I attended in Houston a few weeks ago that some Shell landmen were hunting for mid-continent acreage. Of course this means nothing and any new ventures into this area could probably be administered from their Houston office. Just throwing some wood on the fire.....

Shell is a rumor out there....

Shell is a rumor out there....

Steve, you horrible tease!

Shell sold their Houston headquarters buildings last year; all 1.8 million sq feet. They agreed to a 15 year lease as part of the deal but OKC is well aware of how leases can be broken.

Shell Oil Headquarters Selling for Record $550M in Houston | Real Capital Analytics (http://www.rcanalytics.com/article/1470/shell-oil-headquarters-selling-for-record--550m-in-houston.aspx)

Not saying it's going to happen. But I'm just wanting to remind everyone - the situation is still very fluid.

So, it's definitely an oil company, per Steve. Clever.

Forgive me if this is irrelevant, but when I was at the Thunder/Warriors game on the 6th, I noticed during a break that then they do the little welcome thing to corporate attendees, they had mentioned Exxon-Mobil. Do they have any type of presence in OKC? I was kind of curious...

Forgive me if this is irrelevant, but when I was at the Thunder/Warriors game on the 6th, I noticed during a break that then they do the little welcome thing to corporate attendees, they had mentioned Exxon-Mobil. Do they have any type of presence in OKC? I was kind of curious...

Not even a slight possibility. They are building a giant campus south of The Woodlands for 12,000 employees. Anadarko Petroleum is building a second 31 story tower next to their current tower in The Woodlands.

Since Texas has a history of reacting to growth rather than proacting, this is going to cause a major strain. I hope I am not here much longer. We are long overdue on relocation.

So you don't have any knowledge of the company behind the tower being from Houston?

See my PM, PhiAlpha.

Shell has closer to 1 million acres in Kansas, they've been leasing there in addition to the purchase that gave them the 600,000 acres listed in the article. They are trying to expand their North American shale/unconventional oil and gas presence and their primary focus right now is the northern Oklahoma and southern Kansas Mississippian play.

Shell definitely fits better with the "multinational company seeking a North American HQ" deal that the chamber of commerce through out there last year. There have also been rumors out there about Shell purchasing sandridge or CHK to increase their presence in onshore North America. There could be something to the shell rumor.

Does this mean McClendon and Ward could be putting the band back together?

http://screenandstream.com/wp-content/uploads/blues-brothers-blu_ray-image.jpg

^ awesome

Shell has closer to 1 million acres in Kansas, they've been leasing there in addition to the purchase that gave them the 600,000 acres listed in the article. They are trying to expand their North American shale/unconventional oil and gas presence and their primary focus right now is the northern Oklahoma and southern Kansas Mississippian play.

Shell definitely fits better with the "multinational company seeking a North American HQ" deal that the chamber of commerce through out there last year. There have also been rumors out there about Shell purchasing sandridge or CHK to increase their presence in onshore North America. There could be something to the shell rumor.

If they bought Sandridge, they'd also have bought a prime piece of land at 4th and EKG. :)

Not even a slight possibility. They are building a giant campus south of The Woodlands for 12,000 employees. Anadarko Petroleum is building a second 31 story tower next to their current tower in The Woodlands.

Since Texas has a history of reacting to growth rather than proacting, this is going to cause a major strain. I hope I am not here much longer. We are long overdue on relocation.

Exxon owns XTO and they kept them in Ft Worth as their unconventional group and exxon itself is firmly planted in Houston. Don't see any reason they would want another campus in another city.

Shell is a rumor out there....

I said I wouldn't comment in this thread again, but Steve, you're worse than a $2 hooker on S. Shields. Wave at Bates for us! lolololol


Shell said that the next two big markets for them are Asia and North America. They have already announced several months ago they are building a large headquarters in Asia.
Then just read this article: UPDATE 1-Fund claims SandRidge CEO's family has big land stake | Reuters (http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/02/19/sandridge-tpgaxon-idUKL1N0BJ87620130219)

Notice anything in particular?

Other than the article having today's date, I give up...

Other than the article having today's date, I give up...

5 Largest Lease Holders

1) Sandridge (OKC)
2) Chesapeake (OKC)
3) Shell (???)
4) Devon (OKC)
5) WTC Resources (OKC)

I wonder if WTC means "Ward, Tom - Children".

I wonder if WTC means "Ward, Tom - Children".

It's WCT. Not WTC. I'm guessing "Ward Children's Trust"?

5 Largest Lease Holders

1) Sandridge (OKC)
2) Chesapeake (OKC)
3) Shell (???)
4) Devon (OKC)
5) WTC Resources (OKC)

Not all of us are smarties on here. What does this mean?


It's WCT. Not WTC. I'm guessing "Ward Children's Trust"?

Maybe, Ward's Children Torn.

Not all of us are smarties on here. What does this mean?


It doesn't "mean" anything. It's just juxtaposing information for the purpose of extrapolation.

It doesn't "mean" anything. It's just juxtaposing information for the purpose of extrapolation.

Well, that's just stupid then.

Moving on....