This is just another one of life's lessons in patience....

Now, adding to the speculation of location, let's find some good vantage points for the camera(s), when that day finally does come......

Myth Busted:

Turns out 'Thunder Bunny' is a 225hp version of a VW Rabbit

http://images.europeancarweb.com/features/0704_ec_17_z+thunder_bunny+front_view.jpg

Neuspeed's Volkswagen Rabbit - Thunder Bunny II (http://www.euroteknik.com/forum/general-car-discussion/31493-neuspeeds-volkswagen-rabbit-thunder-bunny-ii.html)


In the early '80s, Automotive Performance Systems--a company we know today as Neuspeed--modified a VW Rabbit and made history. Volkswagen was still trying to convince an air-cooled-Bug-loving public that its water-cooled technology was the future. This Rabbit traced a big, smoky burnout across the pages of Road & Track magazine, which coined the term Thunder Bunny. That's when the water-cooled VW tuning scene took off in the United States.

Myth Busted:

Turns out 'Thunder Bunny' is a 225hp version of a VW Rabbit

http://images.europeancarweb.com/features/0704_ec_17_z+thunder_bunny+front_view.jpg

Neuspeed's Volkswagen Rabbit - Thunder Bunny II (http://www.euroteknik.com/forum/general-car-discussion/31493-neuspeeds-volkswagen-rabbit-thunder-bunny-ii.html)

That's it! Volkswagen is building a new tower in OKC!!! Who would have ever guessed? :wink:

That's it! Volkswagen is building a new tower in OKC!!! Who would have ever guessed? :wink:

You heard it here first.

That's it! Volkswagen is building a new tower in OKC!!! Who would have ever guessed? :wink:

and for some of you to think that I was making Thunder bunnies up.. Shame on you :)

Hearing more and more chatter about OG&E building downtown.

No idea about the exact location (they had hired a real estate firm to assist them) or height, but I wouldn't be surprised if we get an announcement within a few months.

Hearing more and more chatter about OG&E building downtown.

No idea about the exact location (they had hired a real estate firm to assist them) or height, but I wouldn't be surprised if we get an announcement within a few months.

I have zero inside info, but back in the day (early '80's), they were planning a 28 story building. This source coming from a man whose son was a developer at the time. I know this is in no way connected to what might happen now.

Yes, OG&E proposed building a new tower next to it's existing HQ -- there is an old rendering somewhere and it was very underwhelming.

Seems they are committed to doing it right this time. Just another sign the standards have been raised downtown.

Hearing more and more chatter about OG&E building downtown.

No idea about the exact location (they had hired a real estate firm to assist them) or height, but I wouldn't be surprised if we get an announcement within a few months.

Kewl! I hope this is more than just rumors.

Now that I think about it... if OG&E is expanding and needs a new building... why not build... (drumroll please)... 4 new highrises?
They could build an 'O' tower, a 'G' tower, a '&' tower, and a 'E' tower! All right next to each other so that it spells out the company name.

After all, you want to have plenty of room for future expansion, right?
:wink:

Kewl! I hope this is more than just rumors.

Now that I think about it... if OG&E is expanding and needs a new building... why not build... (drumroll please)... 4 new highrises?
They could build an 'O' tower, a 'G' tower, a '&' tower, and a 'E' tower! All right next to each other so that it spells out the company name.

After all, you want to have plenty of room for future expansion, right?
:wink:I just hope they build a massive tower. I know I keep complaining about this, but, I think Devon scaling back was OKC'S one true chance for a super-tall and we missed it. :( I don't know if that will ever happen again. I mean there's nothing in Dallas that I would consider a super-tall. But, who knows. Just out of curiosity how long (if ever) was the Devon Tower anticipated?

OKC doesn't need a super tall until there's more balance to the skyline. Imagine that sore thumb or middle finger had it been any taller. I'm glad Devon scaled back.

OKC doesn't need a super tall until there's more balance to the skyline. Imagine that sore thumb or middle finger had it been any taller. I'm glad Devon scaled back.I understand that would stick out. But, I still think Devon should've built higher while they had the chance. More building can always come in and fill/balance out the skyline, but a super-tall??? That's very common to get in almost any city. I know SanFran had a massive skyscraper in the works and was like twice the size of any building they currently had. Don't know if that is still going through. I love to see cities grow. :)

There's no shame in the size of Devon...

The general public doesn't really care if it's considered a super-tall on a list. People from larger cities still slam us even after this tower was built. A friend of mine from DFW that comes up to OKC frequently commented on a picture of Devon on Facebook, saying how Dallas has about 25 towers taller than Devon and they even use other colors than green. Also, that they should have just built it in a real city such as Dallas or Houston. (All untrue statements) A friend of mine from New York City mentions how we have absolutely nothing here, besides a few dive bars in Bricktown. (Also untrue statements) A buddy of mine who lives in a uch smaller city, gives me grief about living in North Dallas and not having anything here.

Haters gonna hate, a extra 75 feet on the top of Devon to put it in a group of super-tall towers will not change that. Having more smaller towers and a denser and more vibrant urban environment will change that over time.

No not all!!! Don't get me wrong, I love Devon and am so happy they built their tower. We could have nothing and that would be awful. I guess once something is built, is in me to find something wrong with it and try and think what could've been done to make it better. I don't know why I do that though. :/

One of the reasons I don't care for either cities.

There's no shame in the size of Devon...

The general public doesn't really care if it's considered a super-tall on a list. People from larger cities still slam us even after this tower was built. A friend of mine from DFW that comes up to OKC frequently commented on a picture of Devon on Facebook, saying how Dallas has about 25 towers taller than Devon and they even use other colors than green. Also, that they should have just built it in a real city such as Dallas or Houston. (All untrue statements) A friend of mine from New York City mentions how we have absolutely nothing here, besides a few dive bars in Bricktown. (Also untrue statements) A buddy of mine who lives in a uch smaller city, gives me grief about living in North Dallas and not having anything here.

Haters gonna hate, a extra 75 feet on the top of Devon to put it in a group of super-tall towers will not change that. Having more smaller towers and a denser and more vibrant urban environment will change that over time.

OKC has a deeply ingrained negative stereotype in the national consciousness. On City-Data forum, every time a "worst city" thread comes up or "most boring city", watch out because there is going to be a lot of OKC bashing. Anytime this city is mentioned with outsiders it seems like few people have anything good to say about it. When I told me friends in Charlotte I was moving to OKC, one asked me if they had electricity here and another asked me if people still used outhouses. While thanks to the Pei Plan, some of its reputation is deserving, much of it is greatly exaggerated in 2013.

OKC today, even after all the improvements, probably still isn't where it should be for its size but its much better than 20 years ago and barring a local economic disaster will only continue to improve. That said, people who believe stereotypes generally get defensive when you try to tell them they aren't accurate and there is little anybody can do to change their mind about them.

My hope is that downtown OKC continues to become more dense and vibrant, much like it was prior to the Pei Plan. I would like to see more shops, bars, entertainment, etc outside of Bricktown. Many cities have retail and eateries on the first floor of their skyscrapers at street level. In Charlotte, they have the Epicentre area which can be compared to OKC's bricktown, but the rest of downtown is pretty vibrant as well. It looks as if OKC is slowly starting to head in that direction even today. I hope new towers that get built are built with that in mind.

Personally, a clear sign that this city has turned a corner in the national consciousnesses is when major national retailers start to opt for OKC for their first location in the state rather than Tulsa. I don't think we are there yet.

I think having a super tall downtown is very unimportant. Density is more important. If rather have 2 well designed 450 feet towers then one 900 foot one to be honest.

I think having a super tall downtown is very unimportant. Density is more important. If rather have 2 well designed 450 feet towers then one 900 foot one to be honest.

Same here. Especially now that we have an 850 ft tower, but even before that density is better. It just adds to what's already there.

There's no shame in the size of Devon...

The general public doesn't really care if it's considered a super-tall on a list. People from larger cities still slam us even after this tower was built. A friend of mine from DFW that comes up to OKC frequently commented on a picture of Devon on Facebook, saying how Dallas has about 25 towers taller than Devon and they even use other colors than green. Also, that they should have just built it in a real city such as Dallas or Houston. (All untrue statements) A friend of mine from New York City mentions how we have absolutely nothing here, besides a few dive bars in Bricktown. (Also untrue statements) A buddy of mine who lives in a uch smaller city, gives me grief about living in North Dallas and not having anything here.

Haters gonna hate, a extra 75 feet on the top of Devon to put it in a group of super-tall towers will not change that. Having more smaller towers and a denser and more vibrant urban environment will change that over time.

Did you tell your boy that 1) Dallas only has two taller than the Devon tower, and 2)Ugh...Dallas. I can't imagine living there. It's so pretentious. I've never seen the appeal man. I'd probably never go there if it weren't for the OU/tx game.

Never know where to share these...

Oklahoma City pops back to No. 1 slot in economic rankings - The Business Journals (http://www.bizjournals.com/bizjournals/on-numbers/scott-thomas/2013/01/oklahoma-city-pops-back-up-to-no-1.html)

Did you tell your boy that 1) Dallas only has two taller than the Devon tower, and 2)Ugh...Dallas. I can't imagine living there. It's so pretentious. I've never seen the appeal man. I'd probably never go there if it weren't for the OU/tx game.

Actually only 1. The other building has an add on antenna, if you check the roof height on that building, it's more around 700 ft.

Can someone send these reporters / media organizations updated images of our skyline? The ones you see accompanying these stories are usually hideous. It's almost like they troll the net for the worst-possible images of our city they can find.

Can someone send these reporters / media organizations updated images of our skyline? The ones you see accompanying these stories are usually hideous. It's almost like they troll the net for the worst-possible images of our city they can find.

Agreed. Even Pre-Devon tower, there were much better skyline shots than what is typically shown. I sometimes wonder if the national media displays the worst shots on purpose. At least they are showing the skyline rather than a two-lane road with a blowing tumbleweed (I've seen that before).

Never know where to share these...

Oklahoma City pops back to No. 1 slot in economic rankings - The Business Journals (http://www.bizjournals.com/bizjournals/on-numbers/scott-thomas/2013/01/oklahoma-city-pops-back-up-to-no-1.html)

That really is pretty amazing. For all the grousing done on this forum... hey, we must be doing something right.

That really is pretty amazing. For all the grousing done on this forum... hey, we must be doing something right.

I compare it to Sooner fans... Bob Stoops won a National Championship in his second season, and now because he has the audicity to finish in the top 15 and only win 10 games, you have many OU fans wanting him fired.

It's the equivalent of OKC passing and executing something like MAPS and experiencing unprecedented growth, only now to see people on this message board clamor for Choctaw to look like Philadelphia.

Some times it pays to be the cleanest dirty shirt in the hamper.

That really is pretty amazing. For all the grousing done on this forum... hey, we must be doing something right.

Friend is a Realtor and says relocation from other parts of the county to here is still quite strong.

There was recently a Slate article that touted this area's low unemployment. Pretty good write up (http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/01/08/oklahoma_city_job_okc_and_new_orleans_have_the_low est_unemployment_rates.html), although I found it funny the author's Tulsa friends made sure to mention to him how culturally superior Tulsa is to OKC.

Still for an area that supposedly has a "deeply ingrained negative stereotype" we're not doing half bad.

Comments on that article are a joke.

Comments on that article are a joke.

Usually the people that have negative comments on some type of business article have extreme issues and complexes......or they're about 14 years old...or they are from Seattle and still mad.....those folks can stay away as far as i'm concerned.

Some times it pays to be the cleanest dirty shirt in the hamper.

What is that supposed to mean?

There's no shame in the size of Devon...

The general public doesn't really care if it's considered a super-tall on a list. People from larger cities still slam us even after this tower was built. A friend of mine from DFW that comes up to OKC frequently commented on a picture of Devon on Facebook, saying how Dallas has about 25 towers taller than Devon and they even use other colors than green. Also, that they should have just built it in a real city such as Dallas or Houston. (All untrue statements) A friend of mine from New York City mentions how we have absolutely nothing here, besides a few dive bars in Bricktown. (Also untrue statements) A buddy of mine who lives in a uch smaller city, gives me grief about living in North Dallas and not having anything here.

Haters gonna hate, a extra 75 feet on the top of Devon to put it in a group of super-tall towers will not change that. Having more smaller towers and a denser and more vibrant urban environment will change that over time.

People like your friend in Dallas have zero clues as to how cities really develop. Their mental complex disallows them from truly appreciating urban development on many levels.

For those who say we have nothing here... They can never identify what okc is missing. Only that it has 'nothing'. That's not a well backed up claim. These people truly believe that simply living in a major market grants them instant access to all the credibility in the world. I would never allow these people to sit in a conference room to provide input on a design meeting. I have had enough conversations with Texans that make me all too familiar with this scenario.

At least OPUBCO is moving back downtown...

Comments on that article are a joke.

Having lived in several places around the country, that is indeed how most people view OKC. If you try to defend it they will laugh at you because they have already made up their mind that the stereotype is true.

Tulsa and Little Rock also share this kind of perception.

Comments on that article are a joke.

Only the worst people comment on news articles. The newsok comments kill me.

Anonymous internet commentary is an extremely inaccurate gage of public opinion.

What is that supposed to mean?

It means this index has only been out for 6 months and the rest of the country is still on shaky financial ground left over from 2008. I like the fact that OKC is in first pace but anyone can lead a NASCAR lap while everyone else is in the pits during a caution. I would like to see OKC up front when the pack is running at full speed.

Now back to mystery towers.

It means this index has only been out for 6 months and the rest of the country is still on shaky financial ground left over from 2008. I like the fact that OKC is in first pace but anyone can lead a NASCAR lap while everyone else is in the pits during a caution. I would like to see OKC up front when the pack is running at full speed.

Now back to mystery towers.

Well to be fair OKC's unemployment rate was down around 3% I think prior to 2008, still one of the lowest even in that time. This city is unlikely to be a true boomtown though until it can shake its stereotypes.

I don't know bchris02. I think OKC is poised to be the next great urban city.

Having lived in several places around the country, that is indeed how most people view OKC. If you try to defend it they will laugh at you because they have already made up their mind that the stereotype is true.

Tulsa and Little Rock also share this kind of perception.

But here is the best part, a lot of people who have made up their mind about their OKC stereotype drop their jaw when they see OKC for themselves. Famke Jensen was impressed, filming crews of numerous shows were impressed, including the American Idol staff and cast, The Bachelor and several other traveling shows. Even some of my own inlaws and friends from California were so impressed with OKC they have either made return visits or they plan to come back.

Others won't be impressed, and that is fine. You can't please everyone. My greatest satisfaction is selling someone on OKC. When I accomplish that, I always feel like I have moved mountains.

I especially like Nigel Lythgoe's quote... "Oklahoma City was nothing how I imagined it."

It'll keep happening until the general public throws in the towel, tosses their hands in the air and gasp "alright, alright, so I was wrong."

Oklahoma City's growth to shine on "American Idol" | NewsOK.com (http://newsok.com/oklahoma-citys-growth-to-shine-on-american-idol/article/3745910?custom_click=masthead_topten)

But here is the best part, a lot of people who have made up their mind about their OKC stereotype drop their jaw when they see OKC for themselves. Famke Jensen was impressed, filming crews of numerous shows were impressed, including the American Idol staff and cast, The Bachelor and several other traveling shows. Even some of my own inlaws and friends from California were so impressed with OKC they have either made return visits or they plan to come back.

Others won't be impressed, and that is fine. You can't please everyone. My greatest satisfaction is selling someone on OKC. When I accomplish that, I always feel like I have moved mountains.

Agreed. People from out of state who actually make a visit are more often impressed with the city than not. They come in with such low expectations their mind is blown when they see what this city does in fact offer. The stereotype is greatly exaggerated and is largely holdover from the 1980s and 90s. The more positive publicity OKC gets the better.

The success of the Thunder will continue to be a prime vehicle for projecting a positive OKC impression.

It means this index has only been out for 6 months and the rest of the country is still on shaky financial ground left over from 2008. I like the fact that OKC is in first pace but anyone can lead a NASCAR lap while everyone else is in the pits during a caution. I would like to see OKC up front when the pack is running at full speed.

Now back to mystery towers.

Why try so hard to always put a negative spin on something positive about our city? Instead of realizing that OKC has done amazing things over the past few years, because of your obvious disdain for the business and civic leaders here, you are loathe to give the city it's due. Sometimes we can be proud. We aren't all stupid and just happen to succeed because others didn't.

I think perception will change a lot over the next 5 years. Though I feel we need to focus on other markets/demographics that can project our image to more people. I think the sports and business/energy markets are fine. We need to find ways to get the word out in relatively untapped markets like the entertainment industry or the arts (of course, that means finding a way to negotiate the fact that we're not strong in either of those markets).

Probably the biggest demographic that needs to "get out there" more is the center and left political demographics. This is definitely a conservative city, but a lot of people seem to think that there is nary a liberal in the entire 600+ square miles.

I think perception will change a lot over the next 5 years. Though I feel we need to focus on other markets/demographics that can project our image to more people. I think the sports and business/energy markets are fine. We need to find ways to get the word out in relatively untapped markets like the entertainment industry or the arts (of course, that means finding a way to negotiate the fact that we're not strong in either of those markets).

Probably the biggest demographic that needs to "get out there" more is the center and left political demographics. This is definitely a conservative city, but a lot of people seem to think that there is nary a liberal in the entire 600+ square miles.

The city, in my opinion, needs to also market itself to young professionals, and that also means focusing on things that would attract young professionals. Cities like Austin and Charlotte have realized this over the past decade and it has paid off. Charlotte has managed to retain its family-friendly image yet still attract young professionals with it's downtown and hipster enclaves. OKC is very family oriented and that's great, but if this city is going to keep its college graduates and attract in-migrant twentysomethings, there needs to be more catered to that demographic. A lot of people in their early 20s coming out of college will take a lesser job elsewhere over a better job in OKC simply because the other city is more desirable for them and offers more for them. OKC being so conservative is going to have a more difficult time with that demographic, but it can be done. Yes, its a transient demographic, but young professionals also have plenty of disposable income, more-so than a family with children.

41% of Oklahoma County voted for Obama so this county is actually reddish-purple. If every liberal or liberal leaning moderate in Oklahoma County would have voted in 2012, the county maybe could have been turned blue. Oklahoma voter turnout is pretty low since this state is pretty much guaranteed to the Republican candidate.

The city, in my opinion, needs to also market itself to young professionals, and that also means focusing on things that would attract young professionals.

How would you suggest that the city do that and what things can the city focus on in your opinion. Also, when you say the city, exactly what does that mean?

How would you suggest that the city do that and what things can the city focus on in your opinion. Also, when you say the city, exactly what does that mean?

Being one of the recent college graduates, this city desperately needs a late-night district that's nothing like Bricktown. It needs a place where there are 10 bars within close walking distance and where hundreds of the under 40 crowd congregate every weekend with decent turnout on the weeknights as well.

OKC needs a district where Edna's, Speakeasy, Drunken Fry, Kamps, Nova, McNellie's, Deep Deuce Grill, and Saints are all right next to each other (okay, too many different concepts for that to actually be a good idea, but you get the point). I don't think we need a 6th street...and honestly, I don't want one, as all of those bars on 6th street feel the same. We need something like Rainey Street in Austin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainey_Street_Historic_District_(Austin,_Texas)).

I expect that MidTown will become that district...but OKC could really use an entrepreneur (single or entity) to develop 3 to 5 bars in that area.

Aside from the bar scene...at some point this city needs to address the fact that all we care about is sports and that the rest of the entertainment industry suffers greatly here, music and art particularly. OKC needs more music of all types badly.

Being one of the recent college graduates, this city desperately needs a late-night district that's nothing like Bricktown. It needs a place where there are 10 bars within close walking distance and where hundreds of the under 40 crowd congregate every weekend with decent turnout on the weeknights as well.

OKC needs a district where Edna's, Speakeasy, Drunken Fry, Kamps, Nova, McNellie's, Deep Deuce Grill, and Saints are all right next to each other (okay, too many different concepts for that to actually be a good idea, but you get the point). I don't think we need a 6th street...and honestly, I don't want one, as all of those bars on 6th street feel the same. We need something like Rainey Street in Austin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainey_Street_Historic_District_(Austin,_Texas)).

I expect that MidTown will become that district...but OKC could really use an entrepreneur (single or entity) to develop 3 to 5 bars in that area.

Aside from the bar scene...at some point this city needs to address the fact that all we care about is sports and that the rest of the entertainment industry suffers greatly here, music and art particularly. OKC needs more music of all types badly.Give me a little bit and I might that "entrepreneur" if things happen in my favor. ;) .... Someone will likely come along before me though. Anyway I agree with you. :)

Give me a little bit and I might that "entrepreneur" if things happen in my favor. ;) .... Someone will likely come along before me though. Anyway I agree with you. :)

Be the one to get a group together...Use other people's money ;-P

Be the one to get a group together...Use other people's money ;-PYeah I know right. haha

Being one of the recent college graduates, this city desperately needs a late-night district that's nothing like Bricktown. It needs a place where there are 10 bars within close walking distance and where hundreds of the under 40 crowd congregate every weekend with decent turnout on the weeknights as well.

OKC needs a district where Edna's, Speakeasy, Drunken Fry, Kamps, Nova, McNellie's, Deep Deuce Grill, and Saints are all right next to each other (okay, too many different concepts for that to actually be a good idea, but you get the point).

I've been saying this for a while. It's amazing how OKC has no bar districts outside of Bricktown (which is great, but much more appealing to tourists than young local yuppies). OKC needs something like Tulsa's Brady District, which has 10-15 bars within walking disitance (and just half a mile from another bar district (Blue Dome). OKC has nothing comparable.

To get this back on topic (and throw a little fuel on the fire), had dinner with a friend last night who works for OG&E in their procurement and contracting department. She did not know of any pending announcements, but had something of a "now that I think about it" moment later on. It seems that OG&E has not renewed their leases for quite a bit of their office space. Their staff has been complaining for years about how scattered they are. Also, their midstream subsidiary Enogex is growing like a weed and are already running tight on office space in Leadership Square.

Just something to think about....

Being one of the recent college graduates, this city desperately needs a late-night district that's nothing like Bricktown. It needs a place where there are 10 bars within close walking distance and where hundreds of the under 40 crowd congregate every weekend with decent turnout on the weeknights as well.

OKC needs a district where Edna's, Speakeasy, Drunken Fry, Kamps, Nova, McNellie's, Deep Deuce Grill, and Saints are all right next to each other (okay, too many different concepts for that to actually be a good idea, but you get the point). I don't think we need a 6th street...and honestly, I don't want one, as all of those bars on 6th street feel the same. We need something like Rainey Street in Austin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainey_Street_Historic_District_(Austin,_Texas)).

I expect that MidTown will become that district...but OKC could really use an entrepreneur (single or entity) to develop 3 to 5 bars in that area.

Aside from the bar scene...at some point this city needs to address the fact that all we care about is sports and that the rest of the entertainment industry suffers greatly here, music and art particularly. OKC needs more music of all types badly.

You hit the nail on the head here. These weaknesses in OKC are enough to cause young professionals who don't have ties to a specific area to look elsewhere. I have coworkers who drive to Tulsa a couple times per month for the nightlife. In a city of 1.3 million, that should not be necissary. I also fully agree on there being an increased focus on the arts and other forms of entertainment besides sports. I think there is a market for it here it just hasn't been tapped into. If OKC can overcome those two hurdles, it can become a more attractive place for young professionals.

To get this back on topic (and throw a little fuel on the fire), had dinner with a friend last night who works for OG&E in their procurement and contracting department. She did not know of any pending announcements, but had something of a "now that I think about it" moment later on. It seems that OG&E has not renewed their leases for quite a bit of their office space. Their staff has been complaining for years about how scattered they are. Also, their midstream subsidiary Enogex is growing like a weed and are already running tight on office space in Leadership Square.

Just something to think about....

Not sure how old their wiki link is, bit I checked their employee count the other day and they were around 3,600. I'm sure there are a lot of field workers, but a considerable amount would be in a headquarters building if they were to consolidate. They could have a very large structure built.

Not sure how old their wiki link is, bit I checked their employee count the other day and they were around 3,600. I'm sure there are a lot of field workers, but a considerable amount would be in a headquarters building if they were to consolidate. They could have a very large structure built.

A friend of mine said he heard they were working on a tower that would be taller than Devon. Not sure how reliable of a source he has but it's interesting.

Not sure if it would spur growth locally, but MidFirst will be announcing the acquisition of a company out of Atlanta later today... As they will operate as a subsidiary, hard to tell if this means jobs moving to OKC just yet.

To get this back on topic (and throw a little fuel on the fire), had dinner with a friend last night who works for OG&E in their procurement and contracting department. She did not know of any pending announcements, but had something of a "now that I think about it" moment later on. It seems that OG&E has not renewed their leases for quite a bit of their office space. Their staff has been complaining for years about how scattered they are. Also, their midstream subsidiary Enogex is growing like a weed and are already running tight on office space in Leadership Square.

Just something to think about....

At one time, their HQ building was very modern and state of the art. :) On a serious note, when you compete for high quality employees, it's tough to compete with the Devons and Chesapeakes of the world, and their older building doesn't help.

So from everything that has been rumored the past year or so of possible mystery towers

Devons second tower
contenintal tower
midfirst tower
OG&E tower
NEW relocation of myster HQ tower
Sandridge Tower (which I read that one was planned but was only 10-15 stories high)

so that gives us as least 5 building that are maybes? It seems like this mystery thing will be going on and on and collecting more possible companies rumors into the mix. 2012 was a possible might 1st, 2nd, 3rd quarter info release of a tower and now it seems like the same rumor recylcing itself for 2013 only difference is that more companies are added to the possible tower mix. Wonder if we will be doing the same thing in 2014 if nothing is announce this year

Yes.......[sigh].........we will.

So from everything that has been rumored the past year or so of possible mystery towers

Devons second tower
contenintal tower
midfirst tower
OG&E tower
NEW relocation of myster HQ tower
Sandridge Tower (which I read that one was planned but was only 10-15 stories high)

so that gives us as least 5 building that are maybes? It seems like this mystery thing will be going on and on and collecting more possible companies rumors into the mix. 2012 was a possible might 1st, 2nd, 3rd quarter info release of a tower and now it seems like the same rumor recylcing itself for 2013 only difference is that more companies are added to the possible tower mix. Wonder if we will be doing the same thing in 2014 if nothing is announce this year


I'd count Sandridge out given their recent news in other business threads. We'll be lucky if they don't get sold.