Is a new park being built at the SW corner of Broadway and Kerr? That would be a great spot for a new tower!

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Yeah that's always a must with the JR

Anything else you guys want for free? lol

Anything else you guys want for free? lol

Courtside seats for the Thunder. :cool:

Why is this thread still up and running? Off topic discussions, i have heard nothing about this so called "mystery tower" in...... Well never.

Why is this thread still up and running? Off topic discussions, i have heard nothing about this so called "mystery tower" in...... Well never.

I bet we hear something soon. Patience, my friend.

I've said it once before and I'll say it again....they're waiting until after December 21st...there are more people than you think that are seriously weary of this date, lol.

I've said it once before and I'll say it again....they're waiting until after December 21st...there are more people than you think that are seriously weary of this date, lol.

I think it will be in March, near the end of the first quarter.

I've said it once before and I'll say it again....they're waiting until after December 21st...there are more people than you think that are seriously weary of this date, lol.

I don't want anyone that is leery of that date making important decisions.

I don't want anyone that is leery of that date making important decisions.

Like? No, love.

In this article (Oklahoma City businesses plan to keep hiring, chamber official says | NewsOK.com (http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-businesses-plan-to-keep-hiring-chamber-official-says/article/3730501)) posted this morning on NewsOK.com, reporter Michael Kimball wrote this:

"Uncertainty in the national economy and the ever-closer edge of the fiscal cliff, threatened by federal government inaction, has given pause to some of the largest employers.

Earlier this year, optimistic statements and hints from civic leaders predicted a big job boost from major development and relocation news from big corporations, but Williams implied Tuesday that concerns about the economy have delayed that, at least for now.

'We're still a hesitancy and a reluctance to grow, to make large capital investments and (add) new employees and new equipment, particularly among the larger companies,' Williams said."

Perhaps throwing a little cold water on all these rumors...?

More like calling for a mulligan

The major employers in town are adding people at record levels so I don't know what Williams is talking about.

And Devon, Chesapeake, Continental and SandRidge are all in the middle of massive capital improvements.


As for the possible relocations, that's always been vague so it's hard to know exactly what he means there.

If nobody else is building, and you can, now would be the time.
Labor and materials in low demand and still in relatively moderate/high supply.
...maybe.

To be realistic, time is running out on this year. There will be no announcements this year. Look for it to be in 2013. March time frame sounds good to me too...

WSJ article about skinny towers. Might we see one or more in OKC?

Slim Pickings: The Rise of Skinny Skyscrapers - WSJ.com (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324439804578109130156391110.html?m od=WSJ_RealEstate_Mansion_3up)

We may finally get some skinny low-rise developments lol... At least according to the latest OCURA rfp.

Anyone ever see the variety of the Doha, Qatar skyline?

http://www.systech-int.com/assets/frontend/images/news/Doha_Skyline.jpg?1383430398

Why is one of them wrapped in a condom? ;D

Beautiful skyline! I love the one furthest to the left. The way they layed the glass is beautiful.

I like the vase in the middle...imagine those flowers!

We may finally get some skinny low-rise developments lol... At least according to the latest OCURA rfp.

I hope so. Something around 6 to 8 stories would fit there nicely.

That skyline is unique, but also think it is kinda ugly. How many of those buildings would look good in OKC besides the one on the left?

That skyline is unique, but also think it is kinda ugly. How many of those buildings would look good in OKC besides the one on the left?

Look good from how far away? It is a shame that place with the resources don't have more regional planners and less traffic engineers and architects.

Look good from how far away? It is a shame that place with the resources don't have more regional planners and less traffic engineers and architects.I suppose any building's would make a skyline look good from far away, but I' talking anywhere from 1-10 miles. Also, that is like one of the most spread out cores I have ever seen (assuming it is the core of the city).

I suppose any building's would make a skyline look good from far away, but I' talking anywhere from 1-10 miles. Also, that is like one of the most spread out cores I have ever seen (assuming it is the core of the city).

Go check it out on Google Earth. To get from a building to the one next door you have to drive. I guess the good news is they made more than their share of giant round-a-bouts. In a place with no other city to even drive to I wonder why the fixated on the automobile as the only method of transportation.

Go check it out on Google Earth. To get from a building to the one next door you have to drive. I guess the good news is they made more than their share of giant round-a-bouts. In a place with no other city to even drive to I wonder why the fixated on the automobile as the only method of transportation.

Looked like that to me from the pics provided, kinda like Miami. No thanks.

For much of the year the heat and humidity is oppressive...not to mention the sandstorms. People don't just get out and wander the cute streets there. You have to have context before you judge everything.

For much of the year the heat and humidity is oppressive...not to mention the sandstorms. People don't just get out and wander the cute streets there. You have to have context before you judge everything.

4 months out of the year average high is pretty darn hot. The other 8 months, not to bad (average highs in the 70's and 80's). Funny thing about being on sand and near water, even on the hottest day it tends to cool down quickly after about 4 PM. Context indeed.

Average Weather for Doha, * - Temperature and Precipitation (http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/QAXX0003)

4 months out of the year average high is pretty darn hot. The other 8 months, not to bad (average highs in the 70's and 80's). Funny thing about being on sand and near water, even on the hottest day it tends to cool down quickly after about 4 PM. Context indeed.

Average Weather for Doha, * - Temperature and Precipitation (http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/QAXX0003)
I love it when people never experience anything but have read it all to be an expert. Go there sometime and experience the great eight months. Lol. Living life through google.

Anyone ever see the variety of the Doha, Qatar skyline?

http://www.systech-int.com/assets/frontend/images/news/Doha_Skyline.jpg?1383430398

The vast majority of those buildings have been built in the last 5 years. Several were under construction at the same time when I was last there in 2008.

I suppose any building's would make a skyline look good from far away, but I' talking anywhere from 1-10 miles. Also, that is like one of the most spread out cores I have ever seen (assuming it is the core of the city).

That is the "new city" - the older section is across the bay to the south. I like the old market in Doha a lot. If you look at Doha on Google Earth, you should be able to see a clam/pearl sculpture on the corniche, then go south and that is the old market area.

Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Doha are all really interesting contrasts of ultra modern and ancient. Not sure I like all the new architecture as many are sort of garish. But it is impressive in scale and the fact that architects are given such free rein to create.

Go check it out on Google Earth. To get from a building to the one next door you have to drive. I guess the good news is they made more than their share of giant round-a-bouts. In a place with no other city to even drive to I wonder why the fixated on the automobile as the only method of transportation.Haha that is crazy and regarding the weather in Phoenix people walk around all the time in 100+ degree heat, same thing with Vegas. So I'm sure people in Doha are used to it and would walk (if they could).


That is the "new city" - the older section is across the bay to the south. I like the old market in Doha a lot. If you look at Doha on Google Earth, you should be able to see a clam/pearl sculpture on the corniche, then go south and that is the old market area.I couldn't find the sculpture, but I'm not near desktop that has the actual application. I will go check it again though soon. :)

The Pearl Monument, Corniche - Doha - Reviews - TravBuddy (http://www.travbuddy.com/The-Pearl-Monument-Corniche-v498035)

http://www.asergeev.com/pictures/archives/2011/928/jpeg/10.jpg

Off topic alert! Warning!

To get the conversation back on track....did anyone catch Flash Point on KFOR last Sunday morning? A family member who follows dowtown develop and general happenings across the city told me that Kirk Humphreys went out of his way to mention that although he couldn't reveal any names, a new oil company will be relocating to downtown Oklahoma City soon. I am not sure of the exact phrasing as I didn't catch the segment, but I know Mr. Humphreys wouldn't have deliberately brought this up (it was off topic based on their discussion topic) if he didn't have a high level of confidence in a forthcoming announcement.

Heh for all we know, Kirk Humphreys gets his inside information from the Mystery Tower thread on here.

You can hear the comments by Kirk Humphreys at the 7:35 mark here:

Flash Point: 1st Segment, Nov. 25th, 2012 | KFOR.com (http://kfor.com/2012/11/27/flash-point-1st-segment-nov-25th-2012/)


Here's the quote (the group was talking about energy companies and their positive impact on OKC):

"We've been blessed -- we have a number of corporate headquarters. Word's out we're supposed to get another one downtown. I don't know what's gonna happen. Don't know who it is. If I knew I'd talk."

You know I looked for that segment earlier and just saw old clips.

Yep, Will is right. "Word's out" could just mean that he read it on here. Oh well...

This could be old news - I work with a guy who has a nephew in management at Devon. Over the weekend he told him that 70 folks have rejected the transfer offer from their Houston office closure, and that they expect at a minimum of 300 to transfer up to the OKC HQ office. Said a new large tower was definately in the works.

The uncertain economy definitely helps with that.

This could be old news - I work with a guy who has a nephew in management at Devon. Over the weekend he told him that 70 folks have rejected the transfer offer from their Houston office closure, and that they expect at a minimum of 300 to transfer up to the OKC HQ office. Said a new large tower was definately in the works.

Not that I doubt you Bellaboo, but when we start getting into 4 degrees of separation I have to hold my enthusiasm.

Devon is going to build another tower and I don't think they will wait much longer before announcing, as they will soon be out of space.

I still think Continental is going to build on the Stage Center site.

Good chance we get a building from OG&E and there is still plenty of talk about a company outside of OKC moving downtown and building.


There is a little uncertainly with the economy but remember Devon paid cash for their new complex and still has tons of liquidity.

Does anybody else wish they would've just build a super tower?

I would much rather have the current buildings plus another 30- to 40- story tower rather than one 90-story structure.

We need more new buildings and more balance to our skyline.

Would love to see 3 or 4 30- to 50-story towers... Would then be very comparable to Charlotte which has one of the nicest skylines around.

I would rather have 10 fifteen story towers assuming they have adequate street-level interaction.

I would much rather have the current buildings plus another 30- to 40- story tower rather than one 90-story structure.

We need more new buildings and more balance to our skyline.

Would love to see 3 or 4 30- to 50-story towers... Would then be very comparable to Charlotte which has one of the nicest skylines around.Yeah, I guess. I just like super-tall buildings. I could see how multiple towers would appeal better though than one giant.

I would rather have 10 fifteen story towers assuming they have adequate street-level interaction.You mean retail and stuff like that?

Devon Tower is already completely out of proportion with our existing CBD.

We need more buildings to bridge that gap -- plus we need more new buildings in general.


Remember, the more new buildings, the more new stuff at street level.

You mean retail and stuff like that?

Retail, sidewalk dining, hotel lobbies, professional services, etc... Anything that invites people to interact with the building and makes it easy to do so.

I heard they actually let a lot of people go in Houston. Not sure what to believe at this point.

Not that I doubt you Bellaboo, but when we start getting into 4 degrees of separation I have to hold my enthusiasm.

Oh I know, what I have is about 3 or 4 hand info.

I did ask my contact more specifics earlier today and he said his nephew told him that the building would be 'right next door', to the current tower.

Any chance devon would build in the big grassy space between the current tower and the auditorium where the big giant christmas ball is? Seems pretty silly of them to just keep a big patch of grass for no reason.

Any chance devon would build in the big grassy space between the current tower and the auditorium where the big giant christmas ball is? Seems pretty silly of them to just keep a big patch of grass for no reason.

That would be too good to be true, but we can always hope. It is sad that they left enough vacant space along the stree that a whole other tower could be built in the first place.

Any chance devon would build in the big grassy space between the current tower and the auditorium where the big giant christmas ball is? Seems pretty silly of them to just keep a big patch of grass for no reason.

I wouldn't think so, it's their visual connection to the MBG.

I wouldn't think so, it's their visual connection to the MBG.

If Nichols can't pull that off with his tower, how is he going to pull it off with the convention center?

If Nichols can't pull that off with his tower, how is he going to pull it off with the convention center?

That grassy area is not as large when a person gets down there and walks it...not compared to the scale of the rest of the complex. It's a nice little area that fits well with their outside ammenities.

Don't think it's very big either. Where would they put their giant Christmas ornament?

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/UnFrSaKn/Downtown%20OKC/devonenergycenter8-2012.jpg

Just the grass area is is 80' X 150'. That is a bigger plot of ground than the FNC tower is on. And that assumes they only use the grass.

This tower would easily fit. At only 50' x 70' they could get two of them on their front lawn.

http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/MN-AA668_SKINNY_DV_20121115182613.jpg

Something tells me they wouldn't put a skinny tower on their lawn................when they have 3/4 of a block next door.