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drumsncode 01-08-2012, 04:15 PM I think it would be fun to hear everyone's opinion on this. Pretend you are in charge of KWTV and your goal is to get the ratings win back from KFOR.
If you think it's a "talent" issue, then state who you'd hire and how you'd use them at the station. It can be anyone from the competition or someone from the outside who is not currently in the business.
If you think it's a content issue, how would you revamp the format, and remember the idea is to win the ratings in as many time periods as possible.
metro 01-08-2012, 06:46 PM Get rd of the whole crew and build a new set.
RadicalModerate 01-08-2012, 08:08 PM Too Harsh, Amigo . . .
How about . . .
All AdZ All The Time.
(Interrupted by NooZnWeatherStuf)
Oh. Wait . . . SOSddPHD . . .
So . . . How About . . .
A Smack-Down Challenge to The Weather Croo to OutDew the other Krew . . .
By jumping into The Oklahoma River as soon as The First Snowflake after the Sleet appears.
Nah . . . Probably not.
Dustin 01-08-2012, 08:21 PM Get rd of the whole crew and build a new set.
Uhh... KWTV has one of the nicest sets in the country.
RadicalModerate 01-08-2012, 08:42 PM Fer Shure.
But (apparently) we be talkin' 4D Peeps(les) here . . . =)
No OverHyping BSWeatherCoverage.
(Remember. . . The PeterNDWuffParble . . . ? =)
Actual . . . Up to the minute onscreen maps of traffic paths blocks by weather (flooding)
AXE-T-YALL: Don't drive North on Penn . . . It's Flooded at Memorial and Penn . . . Again . .
At every commecial break, there should be
A Ten-Second Historical Homage to The Pioneers of Broadcasing.
(Like on PBS)
You know . . . Like Bob and Ray . . . or Walter Cronkite . . . =)
Double Edge 01-08-2012, 09:50 PM Content, on all the locals. Every second story is animal or child abuse, or was the last time I tuned in, which is infrequent as a result.
mugofbeer 01-08-2012, 09:58 PM Or Human Interest or health news we've all heard 5 times before. How about some actual news? I guess it's the same everywhere though. IT was the same in Dallas and it's the same here in Denver. Just be lucky you all don't have to be subjected to Tim Tebow everywhere you look. Have to admit, he's done some amazing things, though, and is seeming to be an incredible role model.
RadicalModerate 01-08-2012, 10:22 PM KWTV should be the first to announce to the [potential customers] that "TEBOW" has decided to usurp the results of the Iowa Caucases and pledged to move forward to reclaim the Originial Caususes over there south of the Ukraine (near wherever, get a GPS, but out around there where Taras Bulba used to rule . . .).
(BTW: What--or Woo?--The "Fk" is K4? . . . a recently unearthed fossil?)
Sorry . . . I digressed . . .
1) Prettier People
2) Less Annoying Ads
3) "Edgier"--(tee hee hee)
SoonerDave 01-09-2012, 08:04 AM I would roll the dice on an unheard of concept that NO ONE is doing anymore.
Hard news. Investigative journalism.
Sell it unapologetically. "KWTV - Oklahoma City's Only Hard News Choice"
You could create multiple subordinate tag lines:
"No Frills. Real Journalism."
"No chit-chat. Hard News."
"Danger: Fluff-free zone. Hard news ahead."
You get the idea.
Jersey Boss 01-09-2012, 09:09 AM ^ Great concept. Hard news instead of the 2 penny ante now wasting the time. Another concept-increase the time for the sports coverage by yanking Ogle's musings on what is flying around in his head.
SoonerDave 01-09-2012, 10:17 AM I think you'd market this just as aggressively as the meringue they put out there today, but in a 180-degree opposite fashion. Stark advertisements with black backgrounds. Newsteam in foreground in a series of one-shots, with each member looking past - not at - the camera. Heavy voice over, with phrases like "KWTV, featuring Oklahoma City's ONLY hard news team. Promising to bring you what's been gone too long and what no other station in the market will dare: Hard news. Every day. Because you demand it." Don't pander to the pretty, cater to the ones who want it.
kevinpate 01-09-2012, 10:27 AM Fluff, heart tugs and flag waving stories prevail simply, and solely, because that's what best keeps masses from touching the remote until the next sales pitch opportunity washes over them. If they could train the masses to watch only ads there would be no programming except ads.
oneforone 01-09-2012, 10:34 AM Stop covering stories that make the general public look like idiots. EX: A Harvard study reports sticking your tongue in a powered light socket will kill you. If the story is common sense, don't cover it.
Focus on telling the whole story and tell the truth. Being the first to report a story that is full of inaccurate information is just as bad as being the last to report about it.
TaoMaas 01-09-2012, 10:38 AM Investigative news is very expensive to do. It takes lots of time to develop and investigate the story...usually tying up a reporter, photog, and perhaps a producer for several weeks at a time. And even when the story is completed, what do you have? How much time can you actually fill? Just for the sake of argument, let's say that a station goes heavily into investigative journalism and takes the #1 spot in the market. All that really means is that they get to charge a couple hundred bucks more per commercial. However, as I pointed out before, it's expensive to do that sort of reporting...so even though the station is earning more, they're also spending more so it's kind of a wash. Then you have the problem that sometimes the very people the station is investigating is the car dealers, restaurants, and other businesses who would be buying commercials on the station. So they're often kinda biting the hand that feeds them.
...A Harvard study reports sticking your tongue in a powered light socket will kill you...
I LOL'd.
SoonerDave 01-09-2012, 01:07 PM Investigative news is very expensive to do. It takes lots of time to develop and investigate the story...usually tying up a reporter, photog, and perhaps a producer for several weeks at a time. And even when the story is completed, what do you have? How much time can you actually fill? Just for the sake of argument, let's say that a station goes heavily into investigative journalism and takes the #1 spot in the market. All that really means is that they get to charge a couple hundred bucks more per commercial. However, as I pointed out before, it's expensive to do that sort of reporting...so even though the station is earning more, they're also spending more so it's kind of a wash. Then you have the problem that sometimes the very people the station is investigating is the car dealers, restaurants, and other businesses who would be buying commercials on the station. So they're often kinda biting the hand that feeds them.
I think a hard news station bolstered by an underlying investigative news team would be worth trying. You don't have to have, nor really should you endeavor, to have an investigative story every night, or even every week. The idea of having the investigative resources around that starts to make your newsgathering organization the "water cooler talk" of the day is the kind of advertising you can't buy.
Some here may remember, but back in the day (and I'm talking about the 80's) Ch 5 had a darned good investigative news team. Terri Watkins was the lynchpin, and they broke a ton of stories back in the day. As I recall, they broke a statewide county commissioners scandal, the DHS scandal back when Lloyd Rader was in charge, and unless I'm just recalling incorrectly, they broke a story about how the Gaylords and a group called the Oklahoma Industries Authority improperly promised property tax breaks as an incentive to lure GM to build its plant here back in the day.
The point is that a hard investigative newsteam isn't just an asset for the sake of a TV asset, it has an intangible local value in being a check and balance around city and state government. I would LOVE for Terri Watkins et al to have done a piece exploring (exposing?) any of what might be termed the "smoke filled room" decisions behind the assembly, execution, and subsequent implementation of the MAPS projects, particularly and especially the most recent iteration. I think lots of city folks would be concerned if such a reporting entity existed, and the absence of one is why so many such officials have what I think could be termed a cavalier attitude when it comes to the public trust...but that's an entirely different issue.
Point is I think there are folks who still appreciate the civic value of an investigative media element. May be naive, but if a station is losing viewers and ratings, what do they have to lose? They might shock the world.
drumsncode 01-09-2012, 02:33 PM NEWS 9 currently has its Oklahoma Impact team which is supposed to be bringing us this kind of blockbuster journalism. I haven't caught enough NEWS 9 lately to know how many stories they've been airing since they lost Amy Lester. The things are already in place for some quality content at NEWS 9. I just wonder if some of it has been pushed to the back burner.
I echo many sentiments I've read above. I get tired of house fires and car wrecks and stuff like that. It makes good drama for 1 minute or 2, but if you think about it, it only affects the tiniest fraction of the population. By the time the sun rises, most of that news has no lasting value. And don't even get me started on putting a reporter standing in front of the county jail or a government building in the dead of night to report on something that happened hours earlier, just for the sake of a live shot. That is SO stupid to me.
drumsncode 01-09-2012, 02:44 PM Here's something wonderfully ironic. All our local reports/anchors go absolutely hog-wild over the content on Rock Center (Monday, 9pm, NBC). They all rave about that being their dream job, so they really want to do that kind of work here in Oklahoma, they're just prevented from doing it. So I guess they hate doing house fires and car wrecks too.
SoonerDave 01-09-2012, 02:47 PM And don't even get me started on putting a reporter standing in front of the county jail or a government building in the dead of night to report on something that happened hours earlier, just for the sake of a live shot. That is SO stupid to me.
Ohhhhhh, man, drums, you just hit a nerve with me. Obviously some consultant out there has convinced the newsies that a "live shot" creates the perception of more relevance or timeliness, or perhaps more urgency in the vein of rubbernecking around a car wreck, but I *LOATHE* that practice. Every flipping day we have a "live update" on a "breaking news story" from two, three, or ten days earlier that amounts to nothing more than someone standing in front of a stop sign somewhere to read fifty words of stale copy. ABSOLUTELY INFURIATING.
Yes, Ch 9 does have that "impact team," and they deserve credit for it, but it hasn't approached what I'd call the really hard, investigative level. We're talking mostly about the kinds of things you see during sweeps weeks - someone finds out that a legislative member paid $500 for a chair when they could have bought it for $450, the kinds of things that are seemingly out there all the time. I'm really not sure I'm ready to escalate that to the level of hard investigation and expository newsgathering. But, like I said, its better. A little.
For me, there's still waaaay too much posturing and composition, eg framing reporter one-shots so they can make dramatic-looking faces at a non-existent interview target so an editor can put together the footage and create the illusion its all spontaneous. I realize that, at least in part, is a necessary evil in TV, but over the last few years, it seems the raison d'etre for ANY such kind of journalism that desires to pass itself off as "serious."
TaoMaas 01-09-2012, 03:06 PM I think a hard news station bolstered by an underlying investigative news team would be worth trying. For what it's worth, I agree with what you posted...and that's very close to what I told the owner of the station I used to work for when we disbanded our investigative team. What I posted is pretty much what he told me, in return. I could understand where he was coming from, but my feeling was that our news operations have an obligation to the community to shine a light on those areas where there's shady dealings going on. I told him, "How can you expect viewers to be loyal to you when you're not willing to look out for them?" Btw, I remember when Terri Watkins was doing great investigative stuff. My wife and I used to watch KOCO's newscasts even though I worked at a competing station. (Edited to add) And we watched KOCO specifically BECAUSE of Terri's stories.
Jim Kyle 01-09-2012, 03:38 PM For what it's worth, I agree with what you posted...and that's very close to what I told the owner of the station I used to work for when we disbanded our investigative team. What I posted is pretty much what he told me, in return. I could understand where he was coming from, but my feeling was that our news operations have an obligation to the community to shine a light on those areas where there's shady dealings going on. I told him, "How can you expect viewers to be loyal to you when you're not willing to look out for them?" Btw, I remember when Terri Watkins was doing great investigative stuff. My wife and I used to watch KOCO's newscasts even though I worked at a competing station. And we watched KOCO specifically BECAUSE of Terri's stories.I think the problems are at the management level: too many MBAs and not enough up-through-the-ranks reporters making the policy decisions.
If I were running things, I'd get rid of the "news director" they brought in from Wichita and go looking for another Frank McGee or Ernie Schultz to do the job. Then I'd take hard looks at all the on-air talent to determine how well they were adapting (if at all) to the new emphasis on hard news, and get rid of those who couldn't handle the demands of actual reporting. Talking heads who never hit the field have been popular for years, and they can still do the job if supported by good reporters behind the scenes, but they really need to love digging out the "story behind the story" to communicate that enthusiasm to the viewers and thus improve the ratings.
Fires and traffic accidents have been a mainstay since the days of B&W TV; when I was a stringer for Channel 4 during my off hours from The Oklahoman, they were my bread and butter and always good for several seconds of air time. The journalistic rule "if it bleeds, it leads" still holds true and won't go away until humans lose their morbid curiosity. However "breaking news" is patently ridiculous, unless you actually have a camera in place to capture an event as it happens. Ditto for the "live shot" fakery that adds nothing but wastes air time.
I don't expect things to change, though, until top management is replaced. Running a grocery empire is no qualification to lead a journalistic enterprise.
SoonerDave 01-09-2012, 04:28 PM For what it's worth, I agree with what you posted...and that's very close to what I told the owner of the station I used to work for when we disbanded our investigative team. What I posted is pretty much what he told me, in return. I could understand where he was coming from, but my feeling was that our news operations have an obligation to the community to shine a light on those areas where there's shady dealings going on. I told him, "How can you expect viewers to be loyal to you when you're not willing to look out for them?" Btw, I remember when Terri Watkins was doing great investigative stuff. My wife and I used to watch KOCO's newscasts even though I worked at a competing station. (Edited to add) And we watched KOCO specifically BECAUSE of Terri's stories.
Absolutely!
I think what's overlooked is that long-term value that no amount of ad dollars can buy - just look - we're sitting here talking about difference-making reporting quality even down to the *reporter* from two or three *decades* ago, and using that to benchmark how bad local news has become in the midst of what seems to be ever-declining ratings for local news outlets. It is astonishing to me that the MBA mentality is so thoroughly entrenched and myopic that the "value proposition" (as so many MBA's are likely peddle it) of long-term notoriety in the marketplace isn't a sufficient "product differentiator" to motivate some station to give it a try. Local stations are in a death spiral with the circular MBA logic of "we won't try it because we can't make money doing it even though what we're doing now is costing us viewers and losing us money..."
From one side of the aisle, I hear that local news is dying, but MBA attitudes are the very ones unwilling to take their own foot off its neck. Someone is going to have to get bold, take the risk, and see what happens.
OKCisOK4me 01-09-2012, 05:23 PM Man, the answer to this is pretty easy. Pay whatever it takes to get Joleen Chaney out of her contract with KFOR and make her the next Jennifer Reynolds! DONE!!
Tydude 01-09-2012, 06:10 PM and get rid of Gary England and move Jeff George to news 9
Questor 01-09-2012, 06:57 PM Instigate electroshock therapy live on the air to all news anchors whenever an Ogle says one of these catch phrases during a "hard news" segment:
Now get a load of this
Listen to this
Can you believe this?
Apply extra voltage if the catch phrase is accompanied by the goofy lean-in and partial wink smirk.
MikeOKC 01-09-2012, 07:21 PM I like the idea of going the hard news route. I know they would say it would pull the "wrong" demographics and such, but it would certainly stand out. "CBS This Morning" began today what's considered a radical experiment of bringing hard news back to morning network television. It's good to see Charlie Rose back at CBS.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500202_162-57352425/cbs-this-morning-debuts-monday-jan-9th/
bucktalk 01-09-2012, 07:37 PM Simply agree to NEVER carry another David Stanley car commercial - I'd watch KWTV exclusively if they'd drop David Stanley...yes...I'm serious.
Jim Kyle 01-09-2012, 09:28 PM Simply agree to NEVER carry another David Stanley car commercial - I'd watch KWTV exclusively if they'd drop David Stanley...yes...I'm serious.I'd prefer that they drop Chad Stevens' stuff for Fowler -- but car dealers are probably the biggest accounts that any station has so nobody is going to drop one of them...
drumsncode 01-10-2012, 07:20 AM Man, the answer to this is pretty easy. Pay whatever it takes to get Joleen Chaney out of her contract with KFOR and make her the next Jennifer Reynolds! DONE!!
You nailed it! That would be my first move. Remembering that the goal is a ratings increase, I'd steal their most popular anchor. That alone would decimate their ratings, but I'd go one better. I'd let Joleen do more hard journalism because that's what she loves, so I'd have happy viewers on KWTV and a happy employee as well. My guess is that KFOR's 10pm ratings would completely crumble in the male demographic.
If I had any budget left to spend, I'd hire Liz Dueweke away from FOX25 and all her viewers would come right along for the ride. I think Liz is unmatched for a morning anchor, and if you've watched FOX25 when she's not there versus when she is, you see and feel the difference in the energy of the show.
That's the two moves I'd make if I ran the station. I would not fire anyone, but I'd consider shuffling some people around.
I'd also outlaw those meaningless live shots taken in the dead of night. They waste time, gasoline, and resources. I'd put my reporters in the studio where they could really communicate.
RadicalModerate 01-10-2012, 07:46 AM They need to hire people who could deliver the news like this . . .
uYf3eyRjfYA
(No . . . Not the actual news . . . the delivery style. =)
If they can't find a Chet or David, maybe a Jack Webb impersonator.
SoonerDave 01-10-2012, 07:57 AM They need to hire people who could deliver the news like this . . .
uYf3eyRjfYA
(No . . . Not the actual news . . . the delivery style. =)
If they can't find a Chet or David, maybe a Jack Webb impersonator.
Do you remember back far enough to recall Channel 5's evening news when it was something like "The Albert-Hickock Report"? Very much like the Huntley-Brinkley style. Very matter-of-fact, and absolutely no chit-chat. I think that report gave way to the earliest incarnations of either Eyewitness News or the 5 Alive News Center back in the late 70's. More I think about it, more I think Eyewitness News came first, then the "Five Alive News Center" with Dave Gilbert and Jane Jayroe, and later Mary Ruth Carelton...and the first news set that really resembled the bridge of the Starship Enterprise. I think OETA used that old Five Alive set for their news program after KOCO discarded it...
Man, am I dating myself or what....
RadicalModerate 01-10-2012, 08:21 AM If you are dating yourself then at least there won't be a long discussion over which "Chick Flick" to see after the restaurant decision has been debated and resolved . . . =)
Sorry: Correct answer: Or what.
I just wish ALL the local stations would quit trying to outdo each other on all of the over-hyped B.S. that makes the local news almost unwatchable (in my humble opinion, respectfully, Radical Moderate.)
TaoMaas 01-10-2012, 08:35 AM Running a grocery empire is no qualification to lead a journalistic enterprise. With all due respect...experience in the days before the internet is also not a qualification to lead a journalistic enterprise. You're living in the "good old days" before cable tv, remote controls, and the internet. These days, we don't have to wait on Nielsen diaries to tell us who the #1 station is. We can track it on a minute by minute basis. And...for the record...the person who owns KWTV never ran the grocery empire. That's a completely different brother.
TaoMaas 01-10-2012, 08:46 AM Instigate electroshock therapy live on the air to all news anchors whenever an Ogle says one of these catch phrases during a "hard news" segment:
Now get a load of this
Listen to this
Can you believe this?
Apply extra voltage if the catch phrase is accompanied by the goofy lean-in and partial wink smirk.
I think you are on the right track. LOL I'd choose a panel of 3 random viewers whose names were chosen through a process similar to the "Wheel Watchers" game on Wheel of Fortune. They'd have to watch the morning show to see if their name had been drawn, then they'd have 30 minutes to call in. Those selected would comprise a panel which sat in judgement of the evening news. Each selected viewer would have a button in front of them, much like on "America's Got Talent". They would be asked to hit their button at any point in which they decided the newscast had gone over into "fluff". If two out of three judges thought the newscast had gotten off track, the anchor would be dropped throught the floor and another anchor would take his/her place. The newscast would have absolutely zero credibility, but folks would watch it every night just to see what happened. lol
On the serious side...this degradation of local news has been coming for decades. It has very little to do with the content of our local newscasts (or our local newspaper, for that matter) and EVERYTHING to do with the immediacy of the internet and cable tv. Nobody sits around and waits for the 10pm newscast (or the morning newspaper) to find out what's going on in their world. My personal opinion is that investigative news has a much better chance of surviving within a locally produced news magazine show. Something where they only have to produce a story once a week...or once a month. But even that may be extremely optimistic.
kevinpate 01-10-2012, 08:49 AM I want to be the buzzer vendor ... lots of replacement sales!
RadicalModerate 01-10-2012, 09:02 AM Did I say "over-hyped"?
I meant "under-amped".
(Anticipating the objection: "If you don't like local TV News, change the channel or turn off the set."
Response: "Exactly. Consider it done. Like a long time ago.)
TaoMaas 01-10-2012, 09:31 AM (Anticipating the objection: "If you don't like local TV News, change the channel or turn off the set."
Response: "Exactly. Consider it done. Like a long time ago.)
This is exactly what happened. For a long, long time, tv news was living in a bit of a protected bubble. They, and the newspapers, were the only source of information. Then...along came cable tv and the internet. Suddenly, people had a choice...and they opted to exercise that choice.
drumsncode 01-10-2012, 09:32 AM With all due respect...experience in the days before the internet is also not a qualification to lead a journalistic enterprise. You're living in the "good old days" before cable tv, remote controls, and the internet. These days, we don't have to wait on Nielsen diaries to tell us who the #1 station is. We can track it on a minute by minute basis. And...for the record...the person who owns KWTV never ran the grocery empire. That's a completely different brother.
I'm curious. In older times, the Nielsen Ratings were always criticized for a sample size so small that it was statistically insignificant. Has that changed? Is there now enough instrumentation out there that they actually have a reliable measure of the viewers?
And if you have cable, can they detect the station you are watching without any special software/hardware (and without your permission)?
TaoMaas 01-10-2012, 09:42 AM I'm curious. In older times, the Nielsen Ratings were always criticized for a sample size so small that it was statistically insignificant. Has that changed? Is there now enough instrumentation out there that they actually have a reliable measure of the viewers?
And if you have cable, can they detect the station you are watching without any special software/hardware (and without your permission)?
Nielsen still uses a pretty small sample size, but their methods of collecting data is better. These days, OKC is a "metered market". That means that Nielsen no longer depends upon people's memory as to what stations/programs they watched over the past week. They're able to monitor every channel change within a household...and also know which shows are recorded and watched later. So...yeah...their methods are better. But...no...they're still using such a small sample that several viewers within a region can shift things dramatically.
TaoMaas 01-10-2012, 09:44 AM As an addition to your question, drumsncode, when you see our local stations doing their newscasts from towns within Oklahoma, you can bet they're doing them in areas where there's a collection of Nielsen meters that they think they can influence.
RadicalModerate 01-10-2012, 10:15 AM This is exactly what happened. For a long, long time, tv news was living in a bit of a protected bubble. They, and the newspapers, were the only source of information. Then...along came cable tv and the internet. Suddenly, people had a choice...and they opted to exercise that choice.
Actually, the news (or at least what is broadcast as news) is mostly depressing and generally outside of my Circles of Concern and Influence. When you combine that with the goofy over-hyped, under-amped BS presentation . . . Well . . . The choice is obvious . . . Isn't it? =) [Netflix/OETA]<---subliminal plug/product placement, respectfully, Rad Moor . . . I mean Radical Moderate. =)
Is one of The Ogle's on KWTV?
Why don't they let him--Kelly or Alt.--have a Half-Hour Show . . . "My 30 Cents" . . . with live, in the field, checks on stuff like whether or not rain or sleet has actually appeared in the Metro without providing real-time maps of where the flooded intersections are or maybe aren't?
drumsncode 01-10-2012, 10:33 AM Actually, the news (or at least what is broadcast as news) is mostly depressing and generally outside of my Circles of Concern and Influence. When you combine that with the goofy over-hyped, under-amped BS presentation . . . Well . . . The choice is obvious . . . Isn't it? =) [Netflix/OETA]<---subliminal plug/product placement, respectfully, Rad Moor . . . I mean Radical Moderate. =)
Is one of The Ogle's on KWTV?
Why don't they let him--Kelly or Alt.--have a Half-Hour Show . . . "My 30 Cents" . . . with live, in the field, checks on stuff like whether or not rain or sleet has actually appeared in the Metro without providing real-time maps of where the flooded intersections are or maybe aren't?
I actually kinda like the idea of Kelly doing "My 30 Cents", which is a terribly clever name, by the way! :-) I'd like to just hear him do the equivalent of a half-hour "My 2 Cents", with a lot more viewer comments like KFOR does it. That stuff is very interesting to hear.
RadicalModerate 01-10-2012, 10:36 AM Really, it should probably be: "My Buck and A Half" . . . (based on TV time).
First topic: What To Do With "The County Line" BBQ Bldg?
Second topic: Live Coverage of the Demonstrations at the Demolition of Stage Center.
(maybe Triumph the Insult Comedian Dog could be booked for a guest spot)
Third topic: "SMART Parking Meters? or not so much smart?"
kevinpate 01-10-2012, 10:37 AM .... That stuff is very interesting to hear.
Sit in a diner or other non-trendy place.
Drink coffee and scan a paper.
Audibly complain about X.
Sit back and listen.
- no Ogle required
RadicalModerate 01-10-2012, 11:05 AM pj0bwLBckkI
drumsncode 01-10-2012, 11:24 AM We're all going to feel funny if KWTV goes into sweeps with all shows solo-anchored by Kelly Ogle. Be careful what you wish for! I even think Kelly's first name is Walter!
RadicalModerate 01-10-2012, 11:37 AM More power to him.
Make it: "My Tree-Fiddy" (adjusted for inflation) . . .
(and risk The Wrath of Trey and that other southpark guy* =)
*Obscure Cultural Reference Key:
Disclaimer: i apologize, in advance, for "the scots-irish connection" at the end of this pirated version of the original
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cn7xfBpZ3M
TaoMaas 01-10-2012, 11:39 AM In all honesty, nobody knows how to make a #1 newscast...although there are a lot of consultants who will tell you that they know! It's been my experience that network programming plays a pretty big role in everything. When a network is doing well, their local affilliates also seem to do well. It's also been my experience that whatever station is ranked #1 will claim that lead-in has NOTHING to do with local ratings...but should they fall to #2, they will switch positions and claim it's totally due to lead-in programming. LOL
oneforone 01-10-2012, 12:13 PM I forgot one.... Get rid of that god awful hick barfly sports reporter Jessica Coody. There is no possible way she landed that job on talent. I am willing to bet she landed that job after one of the sports reporters woke up next to her one morning after a night of binge drinking.
RadicalModerate 01-10-2012, 12:17 PM The day that I buy into that aspersion is the day that I disbelieve the rumors regarding food poisoning at the Jack-in-the-Box across the street from the Winchester Drive-In. And right after I pay tree-fiddy to keep the Coodys away. (JOOK: Has the "Home Remodeling Shyster" who was caught on camera via An Official In-Your-Corner News Exposé actually ever gone out of business? Or were his pockets deep enough to correct the misperception?)
Jersey Boss 01-10-2012, 07:15 PM I forgot one.... Get rid of that god awful hick barfly sports reporter Jessica Coody. There is no possible way she landed that job on talent. I am willing to bet she landed that job after one of the sports reporters woke up next to her one morning after a night of binge drinking.
WOW, that's harsh. With the turnover in that area of KWTV, it might be that she is one of the few willing to work with a guy who urinates while on the air.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqAIN5zX4jA
drumsncode 01-11-2012, 07:38 AM In all honesty, nobody knows how to make a #1 newscast...although there are a lot of consultants who will tell you that they know! It's been my experience that network programming plays a pretty big role in everything. When a network is doing well, their local affilliates also seem to do well. It's also been my experience that whatever station is ranked #1 will claim that lead-in has NOTHING to do with local ratings...but should they fall to #2, they will switch positions and claim it's totally due to lead-in programming. LOL
You are so right. I have read interviews with News Directors and that's exactly the game they play. I guess they didn't think anyone would notice?
Of Sound Mind 01-11-2012, 10:03 AM Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that NBC is the #3 (or #4) network right now (and has been for awhile now), making it a poor lead-in for KFOR's newscasts, which should actually demonstrate how impressive their position is.
drumsncode 01-11-2012, 12:00 PM A little off topic, but since Amanda Taylor will be out on maternity leave smack in the middle of February sweeps, who do you think they'll use to fill in? Lauren Nelson gets my vote, but I'd love to see Jennifer Pierce get some shows, as well as Lisa Monahan. Might as well show off all that great talent that often goes underutilized.
kevinpate 01-11-2012, 12:05 PM They might rotate it. Might bring back from former anchors. Might do a combo. And yeah, they might tag someone to take on the role full-time on a temp basis during the maternity leave. I'd put money on the combo approach myself.
adaniel 01-11-2012, 02:26 PM Given the fact that News9 has people dumb enough to buy Amy McRee's house from her, then sell it for a loss (http://www.thelostogle.com/2012/01/09/amy-mcree-got-a-nice-little-bonus-when-she-left-channel-9/#more-20581) tells me they don't have the best judgment over at Wilshire and Kelly.
OKCisOK4me 01-11-2012, 02:28 PM Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that NBC is the #3 (or #4) network right now (and has been for awhile now), making it a poor lead-in for KFOR's newscasts, which should actually demonstrate how impressive their position is.
Doesn't matter when you have Joleen Chaney coming on air (that sounds bad, I know).
RadicalModerate 01-11-2012, 07:56 PM I can't believe that they haven't issued a Slow Flurry Emergency Alert.
(or maybe they already have)
Thunder 01-12-2012, 02:41 AM I can't believe that they haven't issued a Slow Flurry Emergency Alert.
(or maybe they already have)
They did, somewhat. They did wall-to-wall coverage and showed a few traffic accidents also including the new I-40 eastbound. Did you miss it?
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