And then there is this (not so?) cryptic note on the FB page today -


To all our friends - come eat with us today-while you can!

And then there is this (not so?) cryptic note on the FB page today -

hmmm . . . that could be taken as either a plea for patronage or a veiled threat . . .
(sorry: too much tony soprano during my formative years. =)

(btw: "cryptic", use of = perfect. like it.)

y'know . . . it just occurred to me that someone could take this thread and turn it into an on-line soap opera, a crime novel, or a video game.
nah. lot's of characters . . . and a plot . . . but no female love interest. is Sarah Palin busy these days? How about Lydia Bastiani (or whatever)?
Maybe Meryl Streep could play Martha Stewart?

I did not intend to directly challenge Steve’s journalistic integrity and attempted to clarify that in my most recent post. I apologies for any misunderstanding on that.

However, and in the interest of fairness, for those who won’t cover this story with the same attention as they did at the restaurants opening when the restaurant did receive lots of free publicity, those journalist and news sources should have their integrity questioned. What comes around should go around. If nothing else was available the TV folks could have given an update with a live report while standing in front of the restaurant.

As far as I know and to Steve and his newspapers credit they are the only news source that has offered any continuing coverage of this story that appears to be full of dysfunctional personalities.

One person was in the witness protection program, there were allegations of death threats and stealing and more. One of the key personalities made several post on this board. One person made many questionable commits in very public forms for all to see. These are not IMHO the actions of most normal business owner/ operators and that in its self is worth covering.

Yet for all the free publicity and legal actions we have seen there has been very little coverage from our local journal across the board on what has happened since the opening and that’s why IMHO there is at least the appearance of favoritism.

We've covered anything that was newsworthy on this and that we could nail down. I can't reach Angelo or his father, so all we know is that the restaurant HAS NOT BEEN OPEN since March. But can I report that the business is actually "closed" - especially when you have an individual who has quite liberally thrown around words like libel and slander? As for Bud Elder's Custinos - it's still open. So I'm not sure there is anything to report there either. See the quandary? I gave no one in this matter free publicity, and yet other than the original very early reporting by Dave Cathy when Custino and Elder were still partners, I'm not sure there's been that much other coverage than what I've done. So you can understand, maybe, why I took offense... if not directed at me, then who?

We've covered anything that was newsworthy on this and that we could nail down. I can't reach Angelo or his father, so all we know is that the restaurant HAS NOT BEEN OPEN since March. But can I report that the business is actually "closed" - especially when you have an individual who has quite liberally thrown around words like libel and slander? As for Bud Elder's Custinos - it's still open. So I'm not sure there is anything to report there either. See the quandary? I gave no one in this matter free publicity, and yet other than the original very early reporting by Dave Cathy when Custino and Elder were still partners, I'm not sure there's been that much other coverage than what I've done. So you can understand, maybe, why I took offense... if not directed at me, then who?

I don’t specifically remember the names of those who covered this story, but there has been what seemed like promotional coverage that appeared on or in KFOR, KOCH, The Gazette, and The Distinctly Oklahoma magazine that Elder once wrote for. So it’s been more than just the DOK that coverd this at the start.

I may have missed it but I don’t remember seeing anything at all from these other sources about any of the troubles regarding this restaurant. I fully understand that as a privately owned media organizations they and you both have a right to cover this or any event pretty much as seen fit. But we/ I also have a right to question the lack of coverage when things soured. Investigative journalism IMHO is a tough job that is not practiced enough today. It’s understandably that there are tough decisions to be made about what is news worthy and not. IMHO to paint a clearer picture you probably could have covered more about some of the facebook rants, but you would know more about your newspaper space than me. Perhaps you could include more of this in any future articles.

If it hadn't been covered, folks on here would be challenging Steve's integrity as to why he was ignoring them. Truth is, most on here wouldn't recognize journalistic integrity anyway. To them it just means the story wasnt written or wasn't in the way they wanted.

Interesting thread but none of this is newsworthy...At all

Interesting thread but none of this is newsworthy...At all

Like.

If it hadn't been covered, folks on here would be challenging Steve's integrity as to why he was ignoring them. Truth is, most on here wouldn't recognize journalistic integrity anyway. To them it just means the story wasnt written or wasn't in the way they wanted.

If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed.
If you read the newspaper, you're mis-informed.
Mark Twain:o

This next week or so... waiting to see if Custino's on Britton closes....

I can say with some confidence that they have closed. I happened to drive by today and noticed on their front doors (one facing north, one facing east) large, orange adhesive notices from the Oklahoma Tax Commission stating that they have been closed and the stickers are not to be removed.

I can say with some confidence that they have closed. I happened to drive by today and noticed on their front doors (one facing north, one facing east) large, orange adhesive notices from the Oklahoma Tax Commission stating that they have been closed and the stickers are not to be removed.That sounds like more legal problems, but this time with the state.
If true, the state will be a lot tougher legal fight for the owner than his past partners were.

From their FB page earlier today -



Well guys, we’re done. Sort of.

Although we planned on staying in this location, at least throughout the summer, it is just not meant to be. Today our negotiations with both the Tax Commission and the landlord in New York finally ended and, of course, our former partners’ fingerprints are all over both entities, especially with the Tax Commission, where it appears that the Custinos perpetrated their loftiest scheme against us.

I will say this – both the Tax Commission and our landlord have been very receptive to our negotiations and have been great to work with. It’s just not meant to be.

Of course, the story is much more complicated than this.

Actually, we will be able to do CATERING for a while out of the restaurant, so if you have any needs at all we will be available at the best price in Oklahoma City. In fact, we had offered to donate a meal to a non profit tonight and, by gum, I’m sticking to it. That’s the way we do business around here.

If you need us to cater this week, please call ...

In the meantime, we will re-land somewhere sooner than later, definitely as “The Taste Bud’s Diner. Ed and Louie and I love working together and we know our product is terrific. We’ll keep everyone posted on our Facebook page.

You’ll never know what your support has meant to us.

https://www.facebook.com/Custinos

Can we finally kill this thread?

They will be missed (never ate there)

Admin lets close this thread

Can we finally kill this thread?
You mean we don’t get to find out how much money the owners owe the state tax commission?

That ought to be of public record, at least at some point, and it sure seems news worthy given the amount of nice publicity this restaurant received from several sources when things were going well.

Since I started this thread with the following question ("please tell me where Custino's restaurants were located in the area"), and I received an answer on page 1, I would think it's time to close it.
C. T.

Since I started this thread with the following question ("please tell me where Custino's restaurants were located in the area"), and I received an answer on page 1, I would think it's time to close it.
C. T.

Sorry but no, keep it open until Custino's goes out of business

Custino's is dead.

You mean we don’t get to find out how much money the owners owe the state tax commission?

That ought to be of public record, at least at some point, and it sure seems news worthy given the amount of nice publicity this restaurant received from several sources when things were going well.

Why on earth would anyone care?

ou48a apparently isn't thrilled at the success Bud Elder enjoyed promoting the restaurant when it first opened (for the record, I was not involved in that early coverage and the first story I did was loathed by both sides of the dispute).

And I'm sure that's the only time you've ever been hammered by both sides of an issue, Steve. LOL

I don't think this thread should be closed for discussion. It's not hurting anybody; if you don't want to read more, stop reading. Duh!

It's not hurting anyone but any interesting discussion has basically run it's course.

Why on earth would anyone care?

How interesting it is or not is a matter of opinion.
As far as it being a dining establishment, yes it’s dead.
However the full consequences and drama are not likely over.

At times reading about this has almost been like reading the script of a bad comical play. It has also been a good lesson about how the ownership should have done better backgrounds checks on employees and on the industry in general from the very start. Doing so may have prevented some of the serious mistakes because this has certainly been a very good lesson in how not to operate a business. Clearly the legal consequences of this poorly operated business are not over with.

There are a wide variety of topics and opinions on this board that we often agree or disagree with and sometimes very strongly, so there really shouldn’t be a problem in keeping this thread open until the final chapters are written about the business and its fall out.
Who knows, maybe others can learn something from the mistakes of others.

It's not hurting anyone but any interesting discussion has basically run it's course.

Disagree. What will go into that vacated space now, and what new venture will Mr. Elder pursue? That seems worthy of discussion.

Disagree. What will go into that vacated space now, and what new venture will Mr. Elder pursue? That seems worthy of discussion.

Then that should be fodder for another thread.

How interesting it is or not is a matter of opinion.
As far as it being a dining establishment, yes it’s dead.
However the full consequences and drama are not likely over.

At times reading about this has almost been like reading the script of a bad comical play. It has also been a good lesson about how the ownership should have done better backgrounds checks on employees and on the industry in general from the very start. Doing so may have prevented some of the serious mistakes because this has certainly been a very good lesson in how not to operate a business. Clearly the legal consequences of this poorly operated business are not over with.

There are a wide variety of topics and opinions on this board that we often agree or disagree with and sometimes very strongly, so there really shouldn’t be a problem in keeping this thread open until the final chapters are written about the business and its fall out.
Who knows, maybe others can learn something from the mistakes of others.

LOL, so you're reading this thread to learn about how to avoid mistakes? It's seems much more like voyeurism. This isn't a matter of agreeing or disagreeing about topics or opinions. The amount of money owed to the state has absolutely nothing to do with learning about anything.

Then that should be fodder for another thread.
hello mudder . . .
hello fodder . . .
as far as posts go,
won't be anodder . . .
'cause Custino's
is now hist'ry
and the reason for their de-mise
ain't no myst'ry

It is what it is.

What makes the story interesting is the history of Phillip Custino. Some of his history has been mentioned. His real name is Anthony Phillip Caliendo (uncle of comedian Frank Caliendo). In the 80s, he ran a prostitution ring out of brothels in Chicago and was convicted and sentenced to 6 years in prison on racketeering charges (google his name for the Chicago Tribune articles). He then apparently went into the Witness Protection Program and changed his name to Custino. In 2001, his oldest son, Anthony Jr., ran a securities scam and bilked investors out of 1.9 million dollars.

As is the routine, Phillip skipped town owing lots of people money. Phillip moved to Wisconsin shortly after the second restaurant was opened, and Angelo is apparently back in California.

After reading the previous post, I am glad I never went to the new restaurant and quit going to the one on Britton Road. Too much drama on both sides between Phil and Bud.

I can't wait to hear more about this.

Music by which to review The 16 Pages/wait for Page 17.
hkTQdEZbjQA
è quello che è

I can't wait to hear more about this.

HAHA! Fantastic.

There's quite a bit online about the history of Anthony Philip Caliendo (aka Phillip Custino), his "Uncle Vito" Caliendo (some federal filings call him his brother) and their wacky exploits in the 70s and 80s. Here is a sampling of quotes:

"Evidence during the trial indicated that from 1978 to 1985, Vito Caliendo, 55, and his nephew, Anthony Caliendo, 40, organized an elaborate scheme that enabled customers at several suburban nightclubs to use their credit cards to pay prostitutes."
-----

"Vito Caliendo, 55, is ``an unrepentant, dedicated career criminal`` who operated a ``shabby, exploitive and filthy business,`` argued Kenneth Lowrie of the U.S. Justice Department`s Organized Crime Strike Force.

Caliendo; his nephew Anthony Philip Caliendo, 40; and six others were sentenced on racketeering charges that stemmed from the Operation Safebet investigation of prostitution and gambling in Chicago`s suburbs.

Lowrie said the prostitution ring was controlled by organized crime and he told U.S. District Court Judge Charles Kocoras that its leaders were linked to reputed Chicago mob boss Joseph Ferriola.

But after the sentencing hearing, Vito Caliendo said, ``tell them I`m Al Capone or whatever you want`` but that ``I have no involvement`` with the crime syndicate. When asked about Ferriola, he responded, ``I never met him in my life.``"
-----

"Convicted along with Caliendo was his nephew, Anthony Philip Caliendo, who warned Gervais that their dealings were a ``dangerous business`` and that he wasn`t dealing with Sears. Gervais needed Vito Caliendo, the nephew advised, because Gervais` business was doing so well that ``everybody wants a piece`` of him, according to the government.

That business involved replacing bills for prostitution with forged bills for legitimate services before forwarding them to credit-card companies for collection. Most credit-card companies do not allow prostitution or other illegal activities to be charged on their cards.

But when the Caliendos threatened to put Gervais in the ``trunk of a car`` if he didn`t pay about $40,000 in debts they said he owed them, he went to the FBI, which then took over National Credit Service, according to the government."
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"Bachman testified that Aprati then told him that Anthony Philip Caliendo, the owner of Plato`s, was willing to pay $10,000 if the sheriff`s police would stop raiding his brothel. Caliendo was sentenced earlier this year to 6 years in prison on racketeering charges arising from his prostitution operation."
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"Philip Caliendo, together with his brother Vito, owned and operated various houses of prostitution. Two of their establishments, the Western Health Spa and the Petite Lounge, served as the focal points for the federal investigation which culminated in the appellants' convictions. Although the Western Health Spa and the Petite Lounge differed in the manner in which they catered their services, the overall scheme was the same. The customer would enter the establishment, select a prostitute, negotiate a price and then pay for the service which was soon to be rendered. If the customer chose to pay with a credit card, the establishment would have to obtain authorization for the transaction by use of the interstate telephone wires."

"The National Credit Card Service ("NCS") was formed by Thomas Gervais exclusively for the purpose of laundering illicit credit card receipts for Chicagoland strip joints and brothels. In late 1978, Gervais offered his services to the Mansion House, a Caliendo establishment which functioned as a house of prostitution. For approximately a year, Gervais provided his service to the Mansion House without a hitch. Soon thereafter, however, the relationship soured from Gervais' perspective. The Caliendos began to "pressure" Gervais into taking them on as partners in his business. When he balked, a "tax" was instituted on Gervais' business by the Caliendos because of his monetary success. Moreover, the bank which Gervais was using to process the charges from the Mansion Club discovered the Mansion Club's illegal operation and closed its account and froze the funds. Gervais was stuck with approximately $12,000 in the frozen funds which represented charges made by the Mansion Club. These were funds which Gervais would end up covering at the risk of bodily injury. He was also "invited" by the Caliendos to get out of the credit card processing business. Soon thereafter, Gervais contacted the FBI and agreed to introduce an undercover FBI agent as a partner in NCS."

"The House of Kobe, a Japanese restaurant in Schererville, Indiana, was one of the legitimate businesses targeted by the conspiracy to process its illicit credit card receipts. In early 1982, Philip Caliendo approached Samuel Schultz, the owner of the House of Kobe. Caliendo informed Schultz that he had recently lost his merchant number for his American Express account and asked Schultz if he could process the receipts for his "catering, limousine and entertainment" business through Schultz's American Express account. Schultz ultimately agreed after repeated requests. Charles Swanson, an investigator for American Express, soon discovered, however, that Schultz was processing credit charges for Caliendo's houses of prostitution and closed the House of Kobe account. Unfortunately for Schultz, Swanson also froze the funds which American Express owed on the outstanding receipts, including those funds which represented the charges made at the Caliendo's houses of prostitution. After being threatened by Philip Caliendo with the prospect of having to deal with "the organization or Uncle Vito", Schultz agreed to pay out of his own pocket the amount of the Caliendo's charges which American Express refused to honor."

"Susan Barker, formerly a prostitute at Plato's Castle, ultimately became Philip Caliendo's live-in girlfriend. She admits that she was present on various occasions during which Caliendo and others discussed various aspects of the operation of the enterprise's prostitution establishments. Moreover, the testimony revealed that Barker was present during various transactions in which credit slips directly related to the enterprise's prostitution activities were laundered through legitimate businesses. She claims, however, that her presence on these occasions was only that of a "passive bystander." This claim is suspect in light of Barker's involvement in other facets of the conspiracy's operation, however. For example, the record revealed that Barker served as manager of RVS Books, an adult bookstore adjoining the Western Health Spa whose operation was closely affiliated with that of the Spa. In this capacity, Barker was involved in discussions with Caliendo and other spa employees about a plan to have female spa employees serve as "movie critics" for those customers who watched movies in the bookstore's video booths. As Barker points out, however, this plan never materialized. Finally, the testimony revealed that Barker was often the recipient of business records and receipts, including credit card slips, which were taken from the Western Health Spa and RVS Books to Philip Caliendo's house on a daily basis."
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"Counts Twenty-Seven and Twenty-Eight charged Michael Mundee and Anthony Philip Caliendo respectively with perjury before the Federal Grand Jury in violation of 18 U.S.C. Sec. 1623. Both Mundee, who was granted a Judgment of Acquittal on the perjury count, and Caliendo, who was found guilty of perjury, have voluntarily dismissed their appeals from the underlying convictions. Defendant John Coppini, although he filed a Notice of Appeal, did not file a brief in support of that appeal."

"As one of many racketeering acts alleged in the indictment, the government charged that Philip and Vito Caliendo conspired to obtain property from Gervais' credit operation by means of extortion."

Someone's ^ not a fan

It's always interesting to see how many posts some have under their belt when you read something derogatory.

I recommend that this thread either be locked or moved to "Nostalgia & Memories."

Have we peeled back the many layers of this onion yet?

i thought we are going to end this thread and this is the 400 post for this thread WOW

When a thread hits your eye,
like a big pizza pie,
that's a stin-go's

Bienvenido a Llama Diecisiete! =)

Can this thread be subpoenaed?

Probably, but it would almost certainly plead The Fifth.
(dang i wish i knew the english translation of Volare about now . . .
so's i could get beyond . . .
Cus-tin-os oh oh oh oh . . .
De-mean-os oh oh oh oh . . .)

(okay YOU come up with a rhyme for Custinos. =)

not Dee-no's? (oh oh oh oh)

Hey . . . c'mere a minute . . .
A woid t' d' wise . . .
Youse can knock off dose insultin' stereotypes any time.
D' sooner d' better. Excuse me, d' bettuh.
http://media.monstersandcritics.com/articles/1287912/article_images/headline_1175845097.jpg
Capice?
And maybe d' next time d' so-called winner in dis restaurant war skirmish
opens a place he might consider includin' a Whine Bar?

After receiving multiple death threats I decided it was in my best interest to leave the state. I have no comment on the media coverage. Before I left my father became aggressive to the point I had to call the police and adult protective services to guarantee my safety. I wish everyone well and hope one day I can return to my home state without questioning my safety.

After receiving multiple death threats I decided it was in my best interest to leave the state. I have no comment on the media coverage. Before I left my father became aggressive to the point I had to call the police and adult protective services to guarantee my safety. I wish everyone well and hope one day I can return to my home state without questioning my safety.

You had to file against your father? So sorry to hear that.

I'm really sorry to hear about all the drama on both sides. Some things aren't meant to work out, and I'm guessing that restaurant was the end of a friendship, and bitterness between a father and son. I hope all parties recover and live a much happier life.

This is from Custino's Italian Kitchen FB Page
https://www.facebook.com/Custinos?hc_location=stream
Ok..update time. Even though we have offered to stay in the building, and have even tried to get a wonderful new tenant in there, one we would have gladly partnered with, our New York Trust landlord wants us gone. So we're moving out today and leaving behind a building that needs a LOT of work.

We have been given an opportunity to do a wonderful summer project that will keep us occupied for several months. In the meantime we will carefully decide where we will open next. And Ed and I are committed to having another place that won't be cursed with criminal partners.

To all of our friends who have kept up with us, we cannot thank you enough.
To be honest, I'm a tad sad about this, but not about the building, it's just that I miss all the loyal and life time friends we have made.

I'll keep this site active until time when we'll move it to a "Taste Buds" page, so please stay in touch.

Let's get a couple of things straight here, I was the person who handled 95% of everything for both Custino's restaurants. There is a lot of missing facts that no one know's about that was not mentioned in paper or media. right now I no longer associate myself with the custino's, As during the time that everything was going on I was in a relationship with the youngest Custino. If there is anyone needing consultation for anything when it comes to restaurants, bars, websites, etc it would be best to come to me about questions, information and consultation because I know about a lot and I can answer lots of questions and get straight to the bottom of things. I am open to helping business people of oklahoma because small business needs to start booming again and take off and get to the point where a lot of corporate businesses are.

As I was the person who did the marketing, promotions, ad's, artwork, idea creations, IT management, Website Management and more for both restaurants. I am the person who was not only the main brains to both operations because without me both operations would of failed in very early stages. Both restaurants are lucky they stayed open as long as they did and I was involved with both from opening to closing of both. so if anyone has questions feel free to ask!

I have had to remain quiet through these last few months and have had to keep my identity pretty hidden as I have been involved with both restaurants and now that I am no longer involved with the custino's or either restaurant I am open for discussion :)

Let's get a couple of things straight here, I was the person who handled 95% of everything for both Custino's restaurants. There is a lot of missing facts that no one know's about that was not mentioned in paper or media. right now I no longer associate myself with the custino's, As during the time that everything was going on I was in a relationship with the youngest Custino. If there is anyone needing consultation for anything when it comes to restaurants, bars, websites, etc it would be best to come to me about questions, information and consultation because I know about a lot and I can answer lots of questions and get straight to the bottom of things. I am open to helping business people of oklahoma because small business needs to start booming again and take off and get to the point where a lot of corporate businesses are.

As I was the person who did the marketing, promotions, ad's, artwork, idea creations, IT management, Website Management and more for both restaurants. I am the person who was not only the main brains to both operations because without me both operations would of failed in very early stages. Both restaurants are lucky they stayed open as long as they did and I was involved with both from opening to closing of both. so if anyone has questions feel free to ask!

I have had to remain quiet through these last few months and have had to keep my identity pretty hidden as I have been involved with both restaurants and now that I am no longer involved with the custino's or either restaurant I am open for discussion :)

Ok, so I'll go with the obvious question: What happened? (from your perspective).

Goon,

Custino's Italian Kitchen: (April 2012 - July 2013)

April 2012 - June 2012:
ORIGINAL BUSINESS PARTNERS: Angelo Custino (50% Owner), BARBRA ELDER (25% Owner), Charles Elder AKA Bud Elder (25% Owner)

Problems:
1) too much media publicity and restaurant was not fully prepared and restaurant was still in "soft" opening
2) Both 25% owners stealing money three weeks into the business being open
3) False media publicity facts
4) Not enough money to pay distributors due to both 25% owners stealing money
5) Both 25% partners had been partnered with the custino's in earlier years with the first custino's back in the day
6) everyone in the restaurant never got along and constant fights happened
7) poorly trained staffed due to 25% partners choosing people who have never worked in restaurant in their life
8) 25% partners had never owned or been involved in restaurants before and had no clue how much it took to run a restaurant
9) Illegal change of locks on building when Angelo Custino seeked legal council for the stealing of money
10) Food being given out free to 25% partners friends, family and more
11) 25% partners trying to control the restaurant from day one because of how well they were connected with the media after both being involved in the governor's life
12) Lies, Lies, Lies in the media

Custino's Restaurant & Bar:
October 2012 - June 2012
Owner: Angelo Custino

Problems:
1) Custino's Italian Kitchen existing owners using the name
2) Custino's Italian Kitchen existing owners slandering Custino's R&B
3) Filing complaints with the health department and city against Custino's Restaurant & Bar
4) rediculous media war with false facts
5) Ghost writing from Custino's Italian Kitchen
6) Slander and Liable writing from Custino's Italian Kitchen
7) Money going out to door to defend ourselves against Custino's Italian Kitchen
8) no reason to stay open with a media war with everything stacked against us, etc.
9) Phil being the kitchen and getting mentally sick
10) falling out between angelo custino and phil custino
11) threats from multiple people and groups against angelo custino and myself
12) being accused of "wacking" aka killing bud elder - FALSE REPORT TO OKC PD
13) being accused of "wacking" aka killing people and drowning people in lake heftner - FALSE REPORT TO OKC PD
14) restaurant being attacked and windows being busted from things that were inside of Custino's Italian Kitchen but couldn't file charges
15) not enough money to stay open because custino's italian kitchen caused so much damage plus the media
16) Gas company doing maitnance and busting gas lines for 2 weeks and caused a minor shut down but was extremely hard to recover
17) water company doing maitnance and busting water lines causing another shut down that was extremely hard to recover from

I was involved in both full time from open to close, without me neither restaurant would of survived more then 3-6 weeks from opening, there is so many more facts that can go on for days

Damn... that sounds like a lot and a big mess. But could any of these issues be criminally prosecuted?
And has the Governor been dragged into this mess?

It sure seems like I was right that the local media connections were used for free publicity and it sure seems like they have largely taken a walk on the story. I have to ask, are they no longer covering the story because of the friendly media connections with the owners?

The story has been redistributed to national newspapers, every article that came out in OKC also was redistributed Bloomsburg, New York Times, LA Times, Dallas News, Tulsa World and more. The media coverage has stopped because there is nothing to report on because all the stuff has turned into false accusations from certain individuals to myself and angelo custino. The only coverage that still continues is here on OKC Talk so everyone knows whats going on. I have been in full communications with Angelo Custino in tulsa even though we are seperated as a couple and I know that he plans on returning to Oklahoma City to due business with a certain business person who is well established in Oklahoma City as far as I know.

Myself I am in Tulsa on the same side as town as Angelo Custino and I will also be moving back to the city at some point or another to do business after a few of my own business deals get off the ground here in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Both of us are not doing any business together but we will always be in communication after all of this and everything that has gone on because I have also been named as a accessory in the counter claim to Angelo Custino from the Elders. If anyone has any more questions feel free to contact me or if any business owners or new businesses would like me to be part of their businesses to do marketing, promotionals, ads, public relations, human resources, etc please feel free to contact me.

there is a lot of stuff with the suit on angelo's side toward the elders that can be criminally prosecuted. The Elders attorney's have not responded to anything from Angelo's attorney so no actions have continued yet on the lawsuit. As far as the governor being dragged into this I am going to stay quiet on for now because there is a lot of facts that could make or break this case or be linked to this case that I don't want out in the public yet. I will say I have heard a lot of talk about certain individuals writing a letter for the zoo ampitheater and using the governors signature without approval. true or not I am still waiting on facts and figures from people that have the letter and information.

Does it strike anyone else how appropriate it is, that "The Thread That Wouldn't Die" has risen from the grave for Halloween?

I had a similar thought. To mention the only place the matter is still discussed is okctalk, when the thread had been dormant for almost five months, was dang near comical.
As for myself, how's the song go ... oh yeah, i got 99 problems but a closed eatery ain't one (nor even two)

"Hi. I'm from Custino's. Here's yer pizza. Sorry it took so long . . .
But I've been dead."
http://www.shootingillustrated.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/W7488SI-30901.jpg

Sounds like a pretty self serving and one sided account from a friend of Custino. Not exactly believable.

Perhaps the waters are simply being tested in order to determine the potential feasibility of yet another Grand Reopening of Yet Another Custino's in the proposed Retail Paradise planned for Memorial and Western'n'east'o'Penn?

I believe it could be legit . . . (whatever legit actually means).

Again: Suggested Reading: The Mark Inside by Amy Reading

Let's get a couple of things straight here, I was the person who handled 95% of everything for both Custino's restaurants. There is a lot of missing facts that no one know's about that was not mentioned in paper or media. right now I no longer associate myself with the custino's, As during the time that everything was going on I was in a relationship with the youngest Custino. If there is anyone needing consultation for anything when it comes to restaurants, bars, websites, etc it would be best to come to me about questions, information and consultation because I know about a lot and I can answer lots of questions and get straight to the bottom of things. I am open to helping business people of oklahoma because small business needs to start booming again and take off and get to the point where a lot of corporate businesses are.

As I was the person who did the marketing, promotions, ad's, artwork, idea creations, IT management, Website Management and more for both restaurants. I am the person who was not only the main brains to both operations because without me both operations would of failed in very early stages. Both restaurants are lucky they stayed open as long as they did and I was involved with both from opening to closing of both. so if anyone has questions feel free to ask!

I have had to remain quiet through these last few months and have had to keep my identity pretty hidden as I have been involved with both restaurants and now that I am no longer involved with the custino's or either restaurant I am open for discussion :)

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