View Full Version : Santa Fe Station
Pages :
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
[ 10]
I see some construction happening up on the platform too... I'm curious to know what the plan is up there!
https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=28128&page=22&p=1062366#post1062366
baralheia 03-20-2019, 03:17 PM https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=28128&page=22&p=1062366#post1062366
Wow, I completely missed that the first time. Appreciate the link, Pete. I wonder if they're ever going to reconnect the southern leg of the house track on the west side of the platform... They've had that track panel removed for a couple of years now. I'm sure it's in the long-term plan along with everything else they wanna do at platform level to prepare the station for the eventual expanded services.
Urban Pioneer 11-20-2019, 08:12 AM Yesterday nearly eight years of work paid off for rail advocates. The right-of-way including air rights were preserved to NE of Santa Fe Station to provide access through the parking area where the Karchmer parking garage was proposed. The vote to accept the negotiated contract that included the protections for the connectivity was unanimous. This alignment would provide potential connectivity to Del City, Midwest City, NE Adventure District Line and Tulsa should those services ever be activated in the future. We expanded the scope for our Regional Transit Authority attorney to negotiate the refined contract with Karchmer and BancFirst. The will be adding parking and potentially structure to either side of the curverlinear alignment that will allow for a ramp to be built to get the rail up to the elevated BNSF tracks.
PaddyShack 11-20-2019, 08:15 AM Yesterday nearly eight years of work paid off for rail advocates. The right-of-way including air rights were preserved to NE of Santa Fe Station to provide access through the parking area where the Karchmer parking garage was proposed. The vote to accept the negotiated contract that included the protections for the connectivity was unanimous. This alignment would provide potential connectivity to Del City, Midwest City, NE Adventure District Line and Tulsa should those services ever be activated in the future. We expanded the scope for our Regional Transit Authority attorney to negotiate the refined contract with Karchmer and BancFirst. The will be adding parking and potentially structure to either side of the curverlinear alignment that will allow for a ramp to be built to get the rail up to the elevated BNSF tracks.
That's good news. Hopefully we start to see quicker speed on getting those services activated over the next decade!
dcsooner 11-20-2019, 08:16 AM Yesterday nearly eight years of work paid off for rail advocates. The right-of-way including air rights were preserved to NE of Santa Fe Station to provide access through the parking area where the Karchmer parking garage was proposed. The vote to accept the negotiated contract that included the protections for the connectivity was unanimous. This alignment would provide potential connectivity to Del City, Midwest City, NE Adventure District Line and Tulsa should those services ever be activated in the future. We expanded the scope for our Regional Transit Authority attorney to negotiate the refined contract with Karchmer and BancFirst. The will be adding parking and potentially structure to either side of the curverlinear alignment that will allow for a ramp to be built to get the rail up to the elevated BNSF tracks.
UP can you tell this in plain english for us who don't readily understand the impact
https://www.okctalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8119&d=1402430548
dcsooner 11-20-2019, 08:20 AM https://www.okctalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8119&d=1402430548
Thanks Pete
Anonymous. 11-20-2019, 08:27 AM Great news. I even remember from a long time ago a rendering that showed the tracks passing through part of the structure of Karchmers'. Or maybe I am making that up, but It was showing something along those lines. I thought it was cool.
PaddyShack 11-20-2019, 08:29 AM Do we really need that parking garage though? I thought the average paring capacity was not critical.
David 11-20-2019, 09:47 AM Yesterday nearly eight years of work paid off for rail advocates. The right-of-way including air rights were preserved to NE of Santa Fe Station to provide access through the parking area where the Karchmer parking garage was proposed. The vote to accept the negotiated contract that included the protections for the connectivity was unanimous. This alignment would provide potential connectivity to Del City, Midwest City, NE Adventure District Line and Tulsa should those services ever be activated in the future. We expanded the scope for our Regional Transit Authority attorney to negotiate the refined contract with Karchmer and BancFirst. The will be adding parking and potentially structure to either side of the curverlinear alignment that will allow for a ramp to be built to get the rail up to the elevated BNSF tracks.
Fantastic development.
Do we really need that parking garage though? I thought the average paring capacity was not critical.
Part of the city's deal with BancFirst and Continental -- to add parking for the people in their building in addition to selling them the Santa Fe Garage.
PaddyShack 11-20-2019, 11:03 AM Part of the city's deal with BancFirst and Continental -- to add parking for the people in their building in addition to selling them the Santa Fe Garage.
I hope they hire more people to fill out the garage!
shavethewhales 11-20-2019, 11:44 AM Awesome news. This will have a huge impact on the feasibility of passenger rail between OKC and Tulsa. Definitely not going to happen anytime soon, but I'm grateful they had the foresight to ensure that it remains a possibility.
Laramie 11-20-2019, 12:17 PM Awesome news. This will have a huge impact on the feasibility of passenger rail between OKC and Tulsa. Definitely not going to happen anytime soon, but I'm grateful they had the foresight to ensure that it remains a possibility.
Which of these do you think will happen first or take priority, the I-35 corridor passenger rail or high speed rail (Texas to Minnesota) or the I-44 rail or high speed rail to Tulsa.
I know there are questions about the tremendous differential costs of regular passenger rail and high speed passenger rail.
Anyone, please feel free to chime in.
shawnw 11-20-2019, 01:54 PM Heartland Flyer extension to Newton
Rail from downtown OKC to downtown Tulsa
High speed rail of any kind in Oklahoma
That's the order I think it will happen in.
baralheia 11-20-2019, 05:52 PM Heartland Flyer extension to Newton
Rail from downtown OKC to downtown Tulsa
High speed rail of any kind in Oklahoma
That's the order I think it will happen in.
That echoes my expectations as well. Even though OKC is in the middle of a federally-designated high speed rail corridor from Tulsa to Ft Worth, I fully expect to see expansion of conventional passenger rail service along this corridor and between OKC and Newton, KS, before high speed rail is realized in Oklahoma.
DowntownMan 11-20-2019, 08:04 PM I hope they hire more people to fill out the garage!
The Santa Fe garage is nearly full on a daily basis at least the first 6 floors that are covered. And I don't believe many BancFirst employees park there yet or have been relocated there yet.
CLR fills up a good chunk of this as I think they have over 700 employees downtown now, plus that doesn't include contractors of theirs who might also be parking there. My guess, CLR ends up utilizing solely SF garage and BancFirst will utilize the new one solely eventually.
Urban Pioneer 11-22-2019, 12:41 PM I would anticipate that the line to Newton would be the first major interstate expansion. The line to Midwest City would probably be the first use of this right-of-way assuming that they don’t due the Reno rapid streetcar alignment.
shawnw 11-22-2019, 12:56 PM You think we'll have rapid streetcar to MWC before Amtrak to KS? I would love that but...
Urban Pioneer 11-22-2019, 05:10 PM I do not. However I do think the RTA is more likely to begin pooling significant funds than the State of Oklahoma. We are already collaborate financially.
Sister cities sign to be installed:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/santefe072820a.jpg
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/santefe072820b.jpg
David 07-28-2020, 03:57 PM Neat. Will the arms be pointing some decorative direction or actually at the sister cities?
PaddyShack 07-29-2020, 07:50 AM Are these really our sister cities? And what does that mean?
http://sistercitiesokc.org/
Our Mission
To promote peace through mutual respect, understanding, and cooperation — one individual, one community at a time.
SCI is a nonprofit, citizen diplomacy network that creates and strengthens partnerships between United States and international communities to increase global cooperation at the local level. As an international membership SCI represents, and supports partnerships between US cities, counties, states and similar jurisdictions in other countries.
jonny d 07-29-2020, 08:45 AM Are these really our sister cities? And what does that mean?
Yes they are, and what Pete posted.
HOT ROD 07-29-2020, 03:02 PM I think that's neat and wonderful for downtown and OKC to emphasize it's global importance. Another great location for this (but on a more grande scale) would be at Will Rogers World Airport.
I had long advocated this type of monument be added to the I-35/I-40/I-235 junction area - which is the Interstate/roadway Crossroads of America; this version would have distances to Canada, Mexico, Pacific Ocean (or California), Atlantic Ocean (or N Carolina).
Could OKC implement all 3? Now that'd make a statement about OKC on all modes (foot/rail-downtown, air-WRWA, road-Junction).
shawnw 07-01-2021, 08:21 PM A couple updates from the Santa Fe Station tenants.
Unfortunately, Scissortail Gifts has gone online-only (https://scissortailgifts.com/). I mean, it makes sense because covid, but I hope they can come back. I'm sure this happened long ago but I just noticed.
16937
By contrast, Pinkitzel got rid of their clothing area and installed an ice cream parlor! They told me it had just opened weeks ago.
16938
Ginkasa 07-02-2021, 09:33 AM My family has enjoyed Pinkitzel a few times. We'll have to check out the ice cream section next time we're around.
Jumping Jackalope, which had been next to Sonic in Lower Bricktown, has relocated to a large space between Pinkitzel and the station lobby.
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/jackalope091521a.jpg
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/jackalope091521b.jpg
shawnw 09-16-2021, 08:56 AM That's a bummer. This is the space where Scissortail Gifts was pre-pandemic and I was hoping they would come back.
amocore 09-16-2021, 11:00 AM Do we know what will be in the now former Jumpin Jackalope location ?
Is the California Chicken still coming in the old Sonic ?
Do we know what will be in the now former Jumpin Jackalope location ?
Is the California Chicken still coming in the old Sonic ?
Dave's Hot Chicken will be taking both the old Sonic space as well as that formerly occupied by Jumping Jackalope.
Plutonic Panda 09-16-2021, 02:38 PM Dave's Hot Chicken will be taking both the old Sonic space as well as that formerly occupied by Jumping Jackalope.
I was hoping this was related to that. Good deal!
This is interesting:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/brt083024b.jpg
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/brt083024a.jpg
David 09-03-2024, 08:41 AM I have a post I think in the RTA thread wondering about the Shields center median as a southside option for something transit, it's super wide all the way down to the new cathedral. Though on that map it doesn't look like they'd be using it for anything more than just getting down to SW 29th.
|