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bandnerd
12-14-2011, 11:30 AM
There's also this kind of weather forecast:


http://youtu.be/j7UBlZcZSE0

HewenttoJared
12-14-2011, 12:37 PM
At least AccuWeather got rid of Joe Bastardi. That's a plus.

SoonerDave
12-14-2011, 12:47 PM
Hey, Venture, are you up on this Weather Ready Nation project? Jed Castles tweeted about it the other day, sounds like there were some interesting (and some odd) presentations about how the public reacts to weather warnings, how warnings should be issued, all manner of things.

venture
12-14-2011, 02:48 PM
Yes the Norman sirens work. Glad we got that cleared up. ;-)

ou48A
12-14-2011, 02:49 PM
Is there anyone that knows why the city of Norman activated its tornado sirens a few minutes ago?
Thanks.

ou48A
12-14-2011, 02:53 PM
Is there anyone that knows why the city of Norman activated its tornado sirens a few minutes ago?
Thanks.

KREF 1400 AM Just said that it was a system wide malfunction....

venture
12-14-2011, 02:54 PM
Probably doing a test on the system and it malfunctioned and didn't mute the audio portion of the siren. As far as I know, the new system can be tested with out any audible warning being heard. So just an oops.

ou48A
12-14-2011, 03:07 PM
Probably doing a test on the system and it malfunctioned and didn't mute the audio portion of the siren. As far as I know, the new system can be tested with out any audible warning being heard. So just an oops.

According to what was said in the paper they can supposedly test the system in a silent mode.

The WX people had been talking about the threat of sever WX for today, a few days ago.
May be they should keep their hands off the sirens (except for real events) when there are days when CB has been in the forecast.

venture
12-15-2011, 02:32 AM
Okay, no maps yet...I'll work on those as we get a bit closer. However, I will say that it does appear the risk for accumulating snow is going up as models are staying pretty consistent now. It does look like GFS and ECMWF are decently similar with storm track placement and speed. However getting into the fine details of what happens at the surface is a bit tougher since ECMWF data is pretty heavily restricted. So this is the GFS take with a dose of common sense to keep thing in perspective. Remember, I know I say this every time, none of this is locked in and will change a bit before we get there.

Forecast period is Monday the 19th through Thursday the 22nd

Monday - 6AM
Light precip will start generally from 30 miles north of I-44 back to the southeast into almost all of SE OK except for the McCurtain County. Generally like precip of 0.10 to 0.25" of rain, with amounts up to 0.50" near Tulsa and areas of NE OK. Surface temps mid 40s to mid 50s, so no issue with frozen precip. Light winds.

Monday - 12PM
Cold air starts to dig south through the TX & OK panhandles. Temps there will be falling into the 30s at the surface and below freezing in the upper levels. Main body of OK will be 50s from I-40 south. North of I-40 there will be mid to upper 40s east of I-35, and mid 30s to low 40s west of I-35. Precip looks like it will be moderate to heavy in NE OK with some areas getting up to an inch during this period. Around a half inch Central. Half inch to 0.75" in SW OK. Accumulating snow will start in the TX PH with about 1 to 2 inches of snow. Winds increase 10-20 mph in Northern OK.

Monday - 6PM
Storm system starts to wrap up. Winds will be up 25 to 35 mph across Central & Western OK with higher gusts. Liquid precip rates will also increase a lot over the start. Roughly the entire main body of OK will be around a half inch to an inch. Now the trick is how much will freeze. Surface temps will be near freezing in most of NW and West Central OK...mid 30s in Northern OK. Generally 40s to 50s from I-44 and back to the SE. Upper air temps are cooling at about the same rate as surface, so we are looking at mostly all snow for the far Northern tier of counties west of I-35 until about Woodward. Then it will dive south to about Elk City in West Central OK. Right now does not look like any freezing rain threat and a small transition area of a rain/snow mix to the SE of the snow area.

Snowfall amounts will depend on all the various factors, but we'll go worst case as usual. Look for a general swath of 3 to 6 inches for most of the area expecting snow. If snow to liquid ratios are higher, those amounts go up. If more sleet and rain works in and the amount goes down. While GFS can get crazy with precip amounts, I want to make sure everyone is aware of what COULD happen. Some areas in this zone could see 6 to 8 inches.

Tuesday - 12AM
Gusty winds will be common over much of the state...25 to 40 mph with higher gusts. Precip rates remain high with generally half inch to a full inch in most areas. Some spotty areas in North Central and South Central OK could see over an inch. Surface temps will show a tight gradient across the state. Near 60 around Ardmore to low 30s just Northwest of I-44. The I-44 corridor looks like it will be in the upper 30s at this time. Upper air temps aren't as uniform. All of western OK is below freezing, most of Northern OK is as well. Areas along the I-44 corridor will be anywhere from just above freezing (around Tulsa to OKC) to several degrees above near Lawton and Wichita Falls. Snowfall forecast is a bit trickier here. Western 1/3rd of OK looks like a general 3 to 6 inches of snow during this period. About the same in Northern OK but there is that pocket of heavier precip which would dump 6 to 10 inches. Around the OKC area I wouldn't be shocked to see some snow mix in, but very little in any accumulation.

Tuesday - 6AM
Winds will start up for the next 24 hours in the 20-30 mph range, so won't keep repeating that. Surface temps will be near or below freezing North of I-44, low to mid 30s along and just south of I-44. Well above freezing Southeast. Upper air temps will be below freezing roughly just west of I-35. Some warm up could be pulled up into NE OK which will push them all rain during this period. Storm system is forecast to be right over South Central OK, so if the track goes just a bit south...the snow line moves south. Precip rates are definitely decreasing here. Moderate rain of around a half inch of rain in the eastern half of the state. West of I-35 a heavier band in NW to NC OK. Light amounts back to the SW. South Central looks like it gets dry slotted. Snowfall amounts looks like 1 to 3 inches SW and 3 to 5 inches in the heavier band.

Tuesday - 12PM
System is moving out Surface temps will be just around freezing in OKC at this time and below freezing for much of Western OK. Upper air temps support all snow for much of Western and Northern OK. South Central into NE will be just around or above freezing. Wrap around moisture will continue. Look for less than an inch of snow for far Western, SW and SC OK. OKC metro area look for around an inch of snow. From Woodward to north of Ponca City look for another 2 to 4 inches of snow, with isolated amounts up to 6 inches.

Tuesday - 6PM
Most of the precip is done. Some light rain/snow mix in the eastern parts of OK. No additional accumulations.

So adding them all up, you can see someone could get a dumping of snow. However, we are still several days out and things can change. If the system tracks more north it'll all be rain. If it goes further south a bit more snow for areas that would be mostly rain during this. We'll see what happens.

Longer Term Highlights...
- Cold arctic air will dump into the country after Christmas. Could have below freezing temps for much of the country except for the West Coast, Deep South, and the far East Coast.
- Next potential for accumulating snow for Oklahoma is Dec 26th

venture
12-15-2011, 11:01 AM
So obviously some changes to the GFS this morning, but to give perspective...the last dozen or so model runs for the surface low position at Midnight Tuesday morning looks like this...


06Z 12/13 - No surface system from any earlier run through this run.
12Z 12/13 - Low over Central OK
18Z 12/13 - Low over NE OK
00Z 12/14 - Low over W TN or E AR
06Z 12/14 - Low over NE TX
12Z 12/14 - Low over NE TX
18Z 12/14 - Low over NE TX
00Z 12/15 - Low over North Central TX
06Z 12/15 - Low over NE OK
12Z 12/15 - Low over NE OK

So we had roughly 4 pretty consistent runs of the surface low in the same spot, then things snapped back to the results from the 18Z run on 12/13. So take that curve ball with the fact this system didn't even exist in the model forecast more than 2 days ago can show that things are still not set in stone.

Bunty
12-15-2011, 12:59 PM
The GFS model shows the heaviest precipitation next week to run down I-44 from Tulsa to Lawton with 2 or 3 in. rain:

http://stillwaterweather.com/photos/96hrprecip.jpg

venture
12-15-2011, 01:34 PM
The GFS model shows the heaviest precipitation next week to run down I-44 from Tulsa to Lawton with 2 or 3 in. rain:


That is the 18Z run from yesterday, so it is almost a day old now. The new 18Z run should get under way here soon.

sacolton
12-15-2011, 03:56 PM
I want a blizzard! (I'll be off work for 2 weeks.) :-)

OKCisOK4me
12-15-2011, 04:38 PM
I want a blizzard! (I'll be off work for 2 weeks.) :-)

But the rest of us won't so go fly somewhere where there's suppose to be a blizzard! ;-)

Bunty
12-15-2011, 05:14 PM
I want a blizzard! (I'll be off work for 2 weeks.) :-)

If you were around here during the Christmas Eve Blizzard of 2009, then you've already been treated to a blizzard.

bluedogok
12-15-2011, 09:13 PM
I want a blizzard! (I'll be off work for 2 weeks.) :-)
Please no, my wife and I will be flying into OKC on Friday (me), Saturday (her) and out on Monday. We might have a little in Denver but DIA can handle that pretty well, my wife is flying out of Midland but I don't think they have any chance of that kind of weather.

ou48A
12-15-2011, 10:17 PM
If you were around here during the Christmas Eve Blizzard of 2009, then you've already been treated to a blizzard.

That may have been bad for around here but as blizzards go that was a pretty light weight blizzard and we were poorly prepared to clear the streets.

ZYX2
12-16-2011, 12:00 AM
Please no, my wife and I will be flying into OKC on Friday (me), Saturday (her) and out on Monday. We might have a little in Denver but DIA can handle that pretty well, my wife is flying out of Midland but I don't think they have any chance of that kind of weather.

Last February was twice as bad up here in Tulsa.

venture
12-16-2011, 11:44 AM
Updated 12Z Snowfall forecast...GFS bounced way north yesterday and is trending south again now. Probably going to need to wait until tomorrow evening to get a good idea of how this will play out.

http://www.twisterdata.com/data/models/gfs/3/maps/2011/12/16/12/GFS_3_2011121612_F108_SNOWIN_SURFACE.png

Bunty
12-17-2011, 03:47 AM
Here's a special weather statement:

Message summary: ...a strong winter storm to bring accumulating snow to parts of oklahoma monday night and tuesday...
A strong storm system over the baja of california saturday morning will begin to move east across arizona and new mexico on sunday. The storm is then expected to move out into the southern plains late monday and monday night. As this storm approaches...south winds will increase and transport gulf moisture northward over the area. While to the north... Much colder air across the northern rockies will begin to surge south into oklahoma and north texas. Widespread rain and a few thunderstorms are forecast to develop across oklahoma and north texas during the day on monday. As the cold air spills south...the rain will change over to snow monday night across portions of western and northern oklahoma. The snow will then spread east across northern and parts of central oklahoma tuesday morning before ending.

Although the storm system is still a few days away and the exact forecast timing and track can change...it does appear that there is a reasonable potential for accumulating snow across the northwest third of oklahoma monday night and tuesday. Locations north and west of a line from cheyenne to cherokee could see snowfall amounts exceeding 4 inches with lighter amounts farther south and east. Some accumulations are possible as far south as perry...watonga and hollis. Strong north winds will accompany the snow...create blowing and drifting along with low wind chills. Stay up to date with the latest forecast regarding this upcoming winter storm. Continue to monitor the nws norman website...noaa weather radio...or other tv...radio...or cable channels for the latest statements...watches...or warnings that may be issued in the coming days.

FROM: http://stillwaterweather.com/advisories.php?zone=OKZ020#WL1

Easy180
12-17-2011, 06:59 AM
I know I know...Accuweather has us with clear streets all the way thru New Years Eve

Loving it

Uncle Slayton
12-17-2011, 07:51 AM
I know I know...Accuweather has us with clear streets all the way thru New Years Eve

Loving it

If it were negotiable, I'd trade you that if in exchange, we didn't see either the sun or a daytime temperature above 35 degrees until after April 1, with snow two or three days a week.

venture
12-17-2011, 08:48 AM
Winter Storm Watch for far NW OK.

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORMAN OK
434 AM CST SAT DEC 17 2011

OKZ004-005-009-010-014-171845-
/O.NEW.KOUN.WS.A.0003.111220T0000Z-111220T1800Z/
HARPER-WOODS-ELLIS-WOODWARD-ROGER MILLS-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...BUFFALO...ALVA...ARNETT...WOODWARD...
CHEYENNE
434 AM CST SAT DEC 17 2011

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY EVENING THROUGH
TUESDAY MORNING...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NORMAN HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM
WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY EVENING THROUGH TUESDAY
MORNING.

* TIMING: ACCUMULATING SNOWS ARE EXPECTED TO COMMENCE MONDAY
EVENING...WITH THE HEAVIEST SNOW FALLING FROM MIDNIGHT THROUGH
DAYBREAK TUESDAY.

* MAIN IMPACT: SNOWFALL AMOUNTS OF 3 TO 6 INCHES WILL BE POSSIBLE.
NORTHERLY WINDS OF 25 TO 35 MPH WILL ALSO BE EXPERIENCED. THIS
WILL RESULT IN SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED VISIBILITIES IN BLOWING
SNOW AND PRONOUNCED DRIFTING OF SNOW ACROSS AREA ROADWAYS.

* OTHER IMPACTS: THE STRONG NORTHERLY WIND WILL ALSO HELP PRODUCE
WIND CHILL VALUES IN THE SINGLE DIGITS TUESDAY MORNING.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

KEEP UP WITH THE LATEST WEATHER INFORMATION...ESPECIALLY IF YOU
PLAN TO TRAVEL ACROSS WESTERN AND NORTHERN PARTS OF OKLAHOMA.

BG918
12-17-2011, 11:00 AM
Looks like a major winter storm brewing just to the north and west of the OKC and Tulsa metros with a cold rain everywhere else unless the storms shifts south.

Still looks like an Arctic blast will invade the country the week after Christmas. That could give the area a better chance of snow.

venture
12-17-2011, 11:09 AM
GFS and NAM agree on snow totals, so this looks pretty reasonable to go with...

http://www.twisterdata.com/data/models/gfs/3/maps/2011/12/17/12/GFS_3_2011121712_F78_SNOWIN_SURFACE.png

ou48A
12-17-2011, 11:22 AM
Good news in that the area that is targeted usually likes snow

venture
12-17-2011, 12:14 PM
Good news in that the area that is targeted usually likes snow

I'm not in that area and like snow. :-P Some people are just too grumpy this time of year for their own good. That is why they invented Arizona and Florida for people. LOL

ou48A
12-17-2011, 01:57 PM
I'm not in that area and like snow. :-P Some people are just too grumpy this time of year for their own good. That is why they invented Arizona and Florida for people. LOL

As you probably know that area has been in a significant drought.
From living in that area I know that most welcome snow (even in a wet year for them) for the moisture content and also for ground cover that it gives to the winter wheat crop.
But the big drawback comes if there is much wind. On the flat wheat ground it doesn’t take very much snow to create very serious white out conditions, they can be deadly for those caught off guard......

HewenttoJared
12-17-2011, 09:50 PM
Venture, what do you think of Jeff Masters? I do a lot of reading from climate papers but week to week weather prediction has just never been an interest of mine. I started reading some WU stuff today and realized that I really lack the weather knowledge background to evaluate the claims being made. Do you have an opinion of WU or of Jeff Masters in particular?

What about this article? http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=2003

ou48A
12-18-2011, 03:51 PM
Blizzard Warning
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AMARILLO TX
319 PM CST SUN DEC 18 2011

...MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOW AND STRONG NORTH WINDS TO IMPACT THE
TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA PANHANDLES MONDAY INTO TUESDAY MORNING...
http://forecast.weather.gov/showsigwx.php?warnzone=OKZ003&warncounty=OKC007&firewxzone=OKZ003&local_place1=7+Miles+SE+Beaver+OK&product1=Blizzard+Warning

venture
12-18-2011, 04:45 PM
Winter Storm seems on schedule. Heaviest snowfall seem restricted to the panhandles with the latest model runs. 18Z NAM runs accumulations of 6 inches or more from Guymon and back to the west. 3 the to 6 inches for the panhandle east of there. Getting into the main body of Oklahoma looks like 1 to 3 inches mainly Harper and Ellis counties. An additional dusting to one inch is possible in Alfalfa, Major, Dewey, and Roger Mills counties and back to the north and west. Highest snow total over a foot will be confined to near Black Mesa.

The 18Z GFS is a bit more widespread with the heavier snow, but I think might be underplaying things a bit. 6 to 10 inches for all of panhandle and Harper County. Then a tight gradient of 3 to 6 inches for about 30 mile wide swath to the SW of that area and then another 30 mile swath of 1 to 3 inches SW of that to include the Woodward area. Other areas of North Central Oklahoma back to the west may see an inch or less.

Based on this snowfall amounts, could see Harper County go to a Winter Storm Warning and then the remaining counties in the watch area go under a Snow Advisory or Winter Weather Advisory.

ou48A
12-18-2011, 04:46 PM
Blizzard Warning
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DODGE CITY KS358 PM CST SUN DEC 18 2011

...BLIZZARD TO NEAR BLIZZARD CONDITIONS EXPECTED MONDAY THROUGH
NOON TUESDAY...

.A STRONG STORM SYSTEM WILL TRACK FROM EXTREME SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
ACROSS SOUTHERN ARIZONA TONIGHT...REACHING THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS
REGION BY MONDAY. THIS STORM IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE SIGNIFICANT
SNOW AND STRONG NORTH WINDS WITH NEAR NEAR WHITEOUT CONDITIONS ACROSS
MUCH OF WEST CENTRAL...SOUTHWEST...AND PORTIONS OF SOUTH CENTRAL
KANSAS.

bluedogok
12-18-2011, 05:10 PM
It is supposed to start snowing here (Denver) around 7:00 AM tomorrow morning on its way to y'all down there. It was 61 today and I was driving around with the top down, kind of strange with snow still laying around in the shadows.

BG918
12-18-2011, 05:52 PM
It is supposed to start snowing here (Denver) around 7:00 AM tomorrow morning on its way to y'all down there. It was 61 today and I was driving around with the top down, kind of strange with snow still laying around in the shadows.

That's Denver for you. Weather there changes even more dramatically than here which is saying something.

While the Panhandle gets a blizzard the rest of the state should pick up a lot of rainfall, anywhere from 1-3 inches widespread with the heaviest amounts in central and eastern OK. Really good news for the drought. More Arctic air on the way next week....

ou48A
12-18-2011, 07:24 PM
The local storm chasers and TV folks should head out to the true high plains of Boise City or Guymon.... or some place out there that’s flat for this storm.

This is sounding much worse than anything we have ever had in central Oklahoma

kevinpate
12-18-2011, 07:55 PM
This doesn't sound monsterous by panhandle standards. Haven't they seen 6+ inches 2-3 times fairly recently?

ou48A
12-18-2011, 08:16 PM
This doesn't sound monsterous by panhandle standards. Haven't they seen 6+ inches 2-3 times fairly recently?

This NOAA site is currently predicting 12’’ to 16’’ for a good part of the panhandle.
But it will be the wind that will cause huge drifts that will be the biggest problem

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ama/


Having lived on the high plains for a number of years I know that this is the type of storm forecast that if it holds true would cause great problems…..
Trains will get stuck. There will likely be drifts to the eaves of most homes and up the bottom of power lines in a few places out in the country.There will likely be human death. Livestock usually die by drowning by the thousands along with decimating much of the local wildlife. Galloping power lines can knock out power for weeks. I have seen all of this^, personally.

A bad blizzard like this forecast would actually be a very destructive and costly event

venture
12-18-2011, 09:12 PM
New NAM output is shove much of the snow further north into Kansas and SE CO. According to it, snowfall accumulation outside of the panhandle will be less than an inch. 3 to 6 inches east of Guymon with 6 to 12 inches west. TX Panhandle looks pretty tame snowfall wise. North of I-40 is where most of it will stay. NE Panhandle will see 2 to 4 inches with NW panhandle looking at 4 to 8 inches. Surface forecast winds are 20 to 30 mph with gusts up to 40...so really borderline Blizzard Warning criteria.

Dustin
12-18-2011, 10:01 PM
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/398582_10150727592848243_234102368242_10670230_183 3755744_n.jpg

That is crazy!

venture
12-18-2011, 10:21 PM
GFS is following the lower amounts. So we'll just have to see. I never really trust any of the watered down computer models TV stations have. They are crap normally 90% of the time.

venture
12-18-2011, 11:58 PM
GFS is showing a pretty decent snow storm developing over Central TX and moving NE through the Southeastern US and up the coast. Seeing how the model trended pretty far south with the system coming through tomorrow/Tuesday, I wouldn't be shocked to see this get adjusted further north. If that happens, a White Christmas could actually happen. Don't bet on it yet though.

OKCisOK4me
12-19-2011, 12:07 AM
Whats the over/under?

venture
12-19-2011, 02:34 AM
Whats the over/under?

Wait until Thursday and ask again. :-P

venture
12-19-2011, 09:00 AM
Mentioned the possibility before...and OUN did go with just Winter Weather Advisories for the NW counties expected to see accumulating snow. Totals pulled way back in the 1 to 3 inch range like the models were showing last night. The morning NAM run is showing even less now with 6" or more kept mainly to the far west panhandle.

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORMAN OK
341 AM CST MON DEC 19 2011

OKZ004-005-009-010-014-191745-
/O.UPG.KOUN.WS.A.0003.111220T0000Z-111220T1800Z/
/O.NEW.KOUN.WW.Y.0008.111220T0000Z-111220T1800Z/
HARPER-WOODS-ELLIS-WOODWARD-ROGER MILLS-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...BUFFALO...ALVA...ARNETT...WOODWARD...
CHEYENNE
341 AM CST MON DEC 19 2011

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 6 PM THIS EVENING TO
NOON CST TUESDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NORMAN HAS ISSUED A WINTER
WEATHER ADVISORY FOR PARTS OF NORTHERN AND WEST CENTRAL
OKLAHOMA...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 6 PM THIS EVENING TO NOON CST
TUESDAY.

* TIMING: ACCUMULATING SNOWS ARE EXPECTED TO COMMENCE THIS EVENING
AND GRADUALLY END TUESDAY MORNING.

* MAIN IMPACT: SNOWFALL AMOUNTS OF 1 TO 3 INCHES WILL BE LIKELY
WITH SOME LOCATIONS POSSIBLY RECEIVING AROUND 4 INCHES.
NORTHERLY WINDS OF 25 TO 35 MPH WILL ALSO BE EXPERIENCED. THIS
COULD RESULT IN SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED VISIBILITIES IN BLOWING
SNOW AND PRONOUNCED DRIFTING OF SNOW ACROSS AREA ROADWAYS IN
PARTS OF NORTHWEST OKLAHOMA.

* OTHER IMPACTS: THE STRONG NORTHERLY WIND WILL ALSO HELP PRODUCE
WIND CHILL VALUES IN THE SINGLE DIGITS AND TEENS TUESDAY
MORNING.

Bunty
12-19-2011, 02:08 PM
Elsewhere in the state, so far, it's looking like the 1 to 3 inches of "drought busting" December's worth of rains that the TV weathermen were excitedly talking about last night aren't going to pan out.

http://www.stillwaterweather.com/wxgraphic.php?type=banner_big (http://www.stillwaterweather.com/)

venture
12-19-2011, 02:14 PM
Storm system is tracking further north, so yeah...won't see major amounts of rain over widespread areas.

OKCisOK4me
12-19-2011, 02:17 PM
Yeah, it's not doing much, lol

venture
12-19-2011, 02:46 PM
This is HRRR's latest rainfall total forecast...

http://rapidrefresh.noaa.gov/hrrrconus/from_jet/hrrr/t5/2011121917/totp_t5sfc_f13.png

ou48A
12-19-2011, 05:21 PM
Tucumcari Municipal
Lat: 35.19 Lon: -103.6 Elev: 4051
Last Update on Dec 19, 3:53 pm MST


Heavy Snow Freezing Fog and Windy

30 °F
(-1 °C) Humidity: 92 %
Wind Speed: N 31 G 40 MPH

Barometer: 29.81" (1009.5 mb)
Dewpoint: 28 °F (-2 °C)
Wind Chill: 15 °F (-9 °C)
Visibility: 0.25 mi.

ou48A
12-19-2011, 08:36 PM
Garden City Regional Airport
Lat: 37.94 Lon: -100.72 Elev: 2882
Last Update on Dec 19, 7:54 pm CST


Heavy Snow Fog/Mist and Windy

28 °F
(-2 °C) Humidity: 92 %
Wind Speed: NE 33 G 41 MPH
Barometer: 29.96" (1015.9 mb)
Dewpoint: 26 °F (-3 °C)
Wind Chill: 11 °F (-12 °C)
Visibility: 0.75 mi.

venture
12-19-2011, 10:37 PM
Second system coming through last half of the week. 18Z models hinted at this, 00Z GFS is coming in now and is showing some pretty widespread snow accumulations. More once the rest of the data comes in.

venture
12-19-2011, 11:00 PM
Through Christmas Eve...looks like scattered light snow, but no real accumulation chances in Central areas. The western half of OK could see up to an inch dusting. Then NE OK about the same. We'll see how this develops since this is a recent development.

ou48A
12-20-2011, 10:36 PM
I have never seen strange clouds like this on the link

http://www.alabamawx.com/?p=55225

MDot
12-20-2011, 11:32 PM
I have never seen strange clouds like this on the link

http://www.alabamawx.com/?p=55225

They look like something you would see in some sort of viking story. LOL

kevinpate
12-21-2011, 12:44 AM
I have never seen strange clouds like this on the link

http://www.alabamawx.com/?p=55225


Whole new meaning to when they yell out Roll Tide!

bluedogok
12-21-2011, 09:00 PM
We have some heavy snow going on right now, this was taken in Aurora. It was snowing downtown when I left the office at 5:00, big heavy flakes and very little wind. Is this the storm that is supposed to hit OKC? It should end here tomorrow afternoon.

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/406090_2250137823987_1564475883_31640148_270382795 _n.jpg

Maynard
12-21-2011, 09:31 PM
Winter solstice occurs at 1130pm (CST).


GJvJqY-yKY0

(Middle high German, modern German, and English translation below)



Middle High German:

Diu werlt was gelf, rôt unde blâ,
Grüene, in dem walde und anderswâ,
Die kleinen vogel sungen dâ,
Nû schrîet aber diu nebelkrâ.
Hat si iht ander varwe? Jâ,
Sist worden bleich und übergrâ.
Des rimpfet sich vil manic brâ.
Ich saz uf eime grüenen lê,
Da entsprungen bluomen unde klê,
Zwischen mir und jenem sê.
Der ougenweide was dâ mê.
Dâ wir schapel brâchen ê,
Dâ lît nû rîfe und ouch der snê.
Daz tuot den vogellînen wê.
Die tôren sprechent, sniâ, snî!
Und arme liute, owî, owî!
Des bin ich swaere alsam ein blî.
Des winters sorge hân ich drî:
Swaz der und ouch der ander si,
Der wurde ich aller schiere frî,
Waer úns der sumer nahe bî.
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Modern German:

Die Welt war gelb, rot und blau
Grüne in dem Walde und anderswo,
Die kleinen Vögel sangen dort,
Nun schreit aber die Nebelkräh.
Hat sie nicht eine andere Farbe? Ja,
Sie ist geworden bleich und übergrau.
Naht vielfach sich manch Sorgenfalt.
Ich saß auf einem grünen Hügel,
Dem entsprangen Blumen und Klee,
Zwischen mir und einem See.
Eine Augenweide war das.
Wo wir suchten Blumen,
Da liegt nun Reife und auch der Schnee.
Das tut den Vögelein weh.
Die Tore sagen: Seht den Schnee!
Und arme Leute: Oweh, oweh!
Deswegen fühl ich Schwere bleiern,
Des Winters Sorge hab ich drei:
was das unter anderem sei,
Ich würde aller Sorgen frei,
Wär uns der Sommer nahe bei.
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English:

The world was yellow, red and blue
Green in the forest and elsewhere
The small birds sang there
But now the fog crow screams.
Has it another color? Yes
It became pale and overgray.
The seam multiplies itself many times.
I sat on a green hill
Flowers and clover sprang there
Between me and a lake.
That was an eyemeadow.
Where we sought flowers
There maturity and also the snow lies now.
That hurts the little birds.
Say the gates: Sees the snow!
And poor people: Oweh, oweh!
Therefore I feel heavy and leaden
I have the winter worry three:
What that would be among other things
I would become all worries free
Were the summer nearly by

OKCisOK4me
12-21-2011, 10:33 PM
^^okaaaay

venture
12-21-2011, 11:47 PM
Nothing to get excited about tomorrow. Maybe a list dusting through parts of Oklahoma. Models still differ on amounts and location. Maybe some freezing drizzle around as well in places that get below freezing.

BG918
12-22-2011, 11:55 AM
Nothing to get excited about tomorrow. Maybe a list dusting through parts of Oklahoma. Models still differ on amounts and location. Maybe some freezing drizzle around as well in places that get below freezing.

Another dud of a system. At least the media didn't get people worked up over this one.

Possible outbreak of colder air end of next week. I'm headed to Colorado for a few days of skiing so I'm hoping the mountains get more snow.