BCS components are starting to come out...some things to keep in mind about BCS title hopes.

OSU - just needs to win out at this point. Any loss going into November will end chances for the most part.

OU - Needs to win out obviously. Stanford & Oregon play in two weeks. Stanford needs to lose that. I think we can jump/stay ahead of Oregon based on the remaining schedule. LSU/Bama play this coming weekend. Loser should drop to 6 through 8, behind OU. We need OSU to win until Bedlam. Win over #2 is better than #9 or whatever a 1 loss OSU would be. Boise State has to lose...and TCU is about the best shot for it to happen in 2 weeks.

The path of OSU to get to the title game is definitely easier and they are playing great football right now. Their defense is still a little soft which might become an issue. OU is definitely at a disadvantage. If they play like they did at KSU the rest of the season, they have a shot at making it to the title game. If they play like they did against Missouri and Tech they could lose another game or two.

Side note...Boise State could really have a shot at getting into the title game. Crazy I know.

Coaches Poll
1. LSU
2. Alabama
3. Stanford
4. Oklahoma State
5. Boise State
6. Oregon
7. Oklahoma
8. Arkansas
9. Nebraska
10. South Carolina
11. Virginia Tech
12. Clemson
13. Michigan
14. Houston
15. Penn State
16. Michigan State
17. Wisconsin
18. Arizona State
19. Kansas State
20. Georgia
21. West Virginia
22. Cincinnati
23. Georgia Tech
24. Southern Mississippi
25. Texas

Others Receiving Votes: TCU(6-2) 55; Auburn(6-3) 41; Washington(6-2) 38; Texas A&M(5-3) 30; Ohio State(5-3) 21; Florida State(5-3) 11; Notre Dame(5-3) 9; North Carolina(6-3) 2; Missouri(4-4) 1

BCS components are starting to come out...some things to keep in mind about BCS title hopes.

OSU - just needs to win out at this point. Any loss going into November will end chances for the most part.

OU - Needs to win out obviously. Stanford & Oregon play in two weeks. Stanford needs to lose that. I think we can jump/stay ahead of Oregon based on the remaining schedule. LSU/Bama play this coming weekend. Loser should drop to 6 through 8, behind OU. We need OSU to win until Bedlam. Win over #2 is better than #9 or whatever a 1 loss OSU would be. Boise State has to lose...and TCU is about the best shot for it to happen in 2 weeks.

The path of OSU to get to the title game is definitely easier and they are playing great football right now. Their defense is still a little soft which might become an issue. OU is definitely at a disadvantage. If they play like they did at KSU the rest of the season, they have a shot at making it to the title game. If they play like they did against Missouri and Tech they could lose another game or two.

Side note...Boise State could really have a shot at getting into the title game. Crazy I know.

Coaches Poll
1. LSU
2. Alabama
3. Stanford
4. Oklahoma State
5. Boise State
6. Oregon
7. Oklahoma
8. Arkansas
9. Nebraska
10. South Carolina
11. Virginia Tech
12. Clemson
13. Michigan
14. Houston
15. Penn State
16. Michigan State
17. Wisconsin
18. Arizona State
19. Kansas State
20. Georgia
21. West Virginia
22. Cincinnati
23. Georgia Tech
24. Southern Mississippi
25. Texas

Others Receiving Votes: TCU(6-2) 55; Auburn(6-3) 41; Washington(6-2) 38; Texas A&M(5-3) 30; Ohio State(5-3) 21; Florida State(5-3) 11; Notre Dame(5-3) 9; North Carolina(6-3) 2; Missouri(4-4) 1

I hope OU and OSU win the rest of their games before meeting. Epic bedlam! Even if its not as epic as two undefeated teams meeting.

I hope Boise State goes to the NC game and plays either LSU or Alabama.....

I hope Boise State goes to the NC game and plays either LSU or Alabama.....


Get outta here!!!

Harris Poll is out.

No. School Record Points Prev
1 LSU (93) 8-0 2853 1
2 Alabama (21) 8-0 2775 2
3 Oklahoma State 8-0 2594 3
4 Stanford (1) 8-0 2552 4
5 Boise State 7-0 2438 5
6 Oregon 7-1 2266 7
7 Oklahoma 7-1 2158 8
8 Arkansas 7-1 2015 9
9 Nebraska 7-1 1918 13
10 Clemson 8-1 1697 6
11 South Carolina 7-1 1696 14
12 Virginia Tech 8-1 1594 15
13 Michigan 7-1 1426 16
14 Houston 8-0 1320 18
15 Kansas State 7-1 1126 10
16 Penn State 8-1 1117 19
17 Michigan State 6-2 1049 11
18 Wisconsin 6-2 960 12
19 Arizona State 6-2 825 20
20 Georgia 6-2 724 22
21 Georgia Tech 7-2 466 26
22 West Virginia 6-2 456 23
23 Cincinnati 6-1 335 24
24 Texas 5-2 323 25
25 Auburn 6-3 199 30

Others Receiving Votes: Southern Mississippi(7-1) 186; TCU(6-2) 101; Texas A&M(5-3) 94; Washington(6-2) 48; Ohio State(5-3) 39; Virginia(5-3) 9; Florida State(5-3) 4; Brigham Young(6-3) 3; North Carolina(6-3) 2; Illinois(6-3) 2; Notre Dame(5-3) 2; Syracuse(5-3) 1; Temple(5-3) 1; Texas Tech(5-3) 1

Get outta here!!!

Lol I have a logical reason to wish that. ;-)

Lol I have a logical reason to wish that. ;-)

So they can make the '04 BCS Title game not look as bad. ;-)

So they can make the '04 BCS Title game not look as bad. ;-)

Glad you see my point. Lol

I actually think if OU wins out they will pass Boise State because of their weak schedule. OU's tough remaining schedule plus having the opportunity for a high quality win the last weekend of the season, could mean OU is in decent shape. Every game Boise plays hurts them in the computers really bad. Every season they start out high and fall further and further as the season progresses and their schedule strength drops.

So, OU could theoretically get into the title game if they win out impressively enough to stay in front of a 1-loss Oregon and Alabama-LSU loser, but they need Stanford to lose to either Oregon, Notre Dame, or in PAC-12 championship. It is crazy to think that OU could (not for sure though) be one upset of Stanford away from getting back in the title game.

RK TEAM AVG PVS RK PTS % RK PTS % AVG A&H RB CM KM JS PW %
1 LSU .9734 1 1 2853 .9923 1 1457 .9878 2 3 1 2 2 3 3 .940
2 Alabama .9591 2 2 2775 .9652 2 1434 .9722 2 2 3 3 3 2 2 .940
3 Oklahoma State .9310 3 3 2594 .9023 4 1314 .8908 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 1.000
4 Stanford .8615 6 4 2552 .8877 3 1323 .8969 6 5 4 6 8 8 5 .800
5 Boise State .8522 4 5 2438 .8480 5 1237 .8386 4 4 5 4 4 6 4 .870
6 Oklahoma .7760 9 7 2158 .7506 7 1117 .7573 5 6 6 5 5 5 6 .820
7 Arkansas .7033 10 8 2015 .7009 8 1046 .7092 7 10 10 16 7 4 7 .700
8 Oregon .6916 7 6 2266 .7882 6 1175 .7966 13 16 7 15 14 13 13 .490
9 South Carolina .6177 13 11 1696 .5899 10 919 .6231 10 7 14 11 10 10 9 .640
10 Nebraska .6156 14 9 1918 .6671 9 973 .6597 12 13 8 9 16 18 14 .520
11 Clemson .5961 5 10 1697 .5903 12 779 .5281 9 17 11 7 9 9 8 .670
12 Virginia Tech .5683 12 12 1594 .5544 11 871 .5905 11 12 13 10 11 17 12 .560
13 Houston .4698 17 14 1320 .4591 14 679 .4603 13 8 0 8 13 23 11 .490
14 Kansas State .4600 8 15 1126 .3917 19 440 .2983 8 9 9 12 6 7 10 .690
15 Michigan .4512 18 13 1426 .4960 13 734 .4976 17 11 17 13 20 0 18 .360
16 Penn State .4022 19 16 1117 .3885 15 646 .4380 16 15 21 14 17 19 15 .380
17 Michigan State .3076 11 17 1049 .3649 16 528 .3580 20 22 12 21 21 24 20 .200
18 Georgia .2899 22 20 724 .2518 20 410 .2780 19 18 0 18 15 15 19 .340
19 Arizona State .2362 21 19 825 .2870 18 445 .3017 21 24 18 24 25 21 23 .120
20 Wisconsin .2159 15 18 960 .3339 17 463 .3139 24 0 20 0 0 0 0 .000
21 Texas .2117 24 24 323 .1123 25 122 .0827 15 14 0 17 12 12 17 .440
22 Auburn .1490 23 25 199 .0692 NR 41 .0278 18 19 16 22 18 11 16 .350
23 Georgia Tech .1276 NR 21 466 .1621 23 193 .1308 23 23 22 23 23 0 0 .090
24 West Virginia .1139 25 22 456 .1586 21 270 .1831 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
25 Southern Miss .0944 NR NR 186 .0647 24 160 .1085 22 20 0 19 0 0 21 .110

It's obvious that OSU is currently in great shape. The computers love them. OU is in very good shape and getting good computer rankings considering what happened against Texas Tech. They really just need Stanford to lose and hope they can jump the loser of the LSU - Alabama game.

It's obvious that OSU is currently in great shape. The computers love them. OU is in very good shape and getting good computer rankings considering what happened against Texas Tech. They really just need Stanford to lose and hope they can jump the loser of the LSU - Alabama game.

Just in that scenario they could be ranked #4 in a few weeks.

Yeah OU could be #4 in a week or two. Boise is losing ground in the computers as their strength of schedule weakens. Sucks for them being in a mid major conference, but that is how it works. The thing I am most concerned about is how far the loser of Bama/LSU drops. The media love fest of the SEC could very well keep a 1-loss LSU or Bama ahead of the others. Is it right? Probably not. The biggest thing is could people really believe Boise can beat either of them. If not, can they really rank Boise ahead of them then.

Yeah OU could be #4 in a week or two. Boise is losing ground in the computers as their strength of schedule weakens. Sucks for them being in a mid major conference, but that is how it works. The thing I am most concerned about is how far the loser of Bama/LSU drops. The media love fest of the SEC could very well keep a 1-loss LSU or Bama ahead of the others. Is it right? Probably not. The biggest thing is could people really believe Boise can beat either of them. If not, can they really rank Boise ahead of them then.

You're right to be concerned about the media's SEC love. The computers don't have that love, thank goodness. The winner of the OU - OSU game will still get a great computer boost if they win out despite what happens in the SEC. I also think that most of the media wouldn't actually prefer a rematch in the national title game.

The computers love Oklahoma State, they're ranked #1 in all but one computer.

Well what many thought would happen, appears will. Alabama is projected to only fall to 4th in the BCS after being ranked 4th in the Coaches poll. Alabama is projected to be 3rd in the computers.

LSU is overall in the human polls, but #2 in the computers. OSU is #1 in the computers.

So what this could mean? Even beating OSU, OU may not get into the BCS title game. Stanford obviously still needs to lose. They do have a good chance of jumping Boise State though. Alabama should take a hit in the computers when they play Georgia Southern in a couple weeks.

Estimated BCS...

BCS Rank Team BCS Avg Harris Votes Harris Pct Coaches Votes Coaches Pct Sagarin Colley Anderson-Hester Billingley Massey Wolfe CPU Avg
1 LSU 0.9899 2874 0.9997 1475 1 1 2 2 1 2 2 1.75
2 Oklahoma State 0.9512 2709 0.9423 1359 0.9214 2 1 1 2 1 1 1.25
3 Stanford 0.894 2667 0.9277 1378 0.9342 8 6 4 3 7 5 5.5
4 Alabama 0.8758 2460 0.8557 1286 0.8719 3 4 6 4 3 3 3.5
5 Boise State 0.8454 2398 0.8341 1242 0.842 5 5 3 5 4 4 4.5
6 Oklahoma 0.7892 2225 0.7739 1141 0.7736 6 3 5 6 5 6 5.5
7 Oregon 0.7648 2313 0.8045 1180 0.8 7 8 10 7 13 10 8.75
8 Arkansas 0.7299 2015 0.7009 1075 0.7288 4 10 7 8 6 7 7
9 Clemson 0.6439 1812 0.6303 946 0.6414 13 9 12 9 8 8 9.5
10 Virginia Tech 0.6228 1814 0.631 955 0.6475 21 12 9 12 10 11 11.25
11 Houston 0.5635 1665 0.5791 828 0.5614 20 7 8 23 12 9 12.25
12 Penn State 0.5134 1577 0.5485 799 0.5417 18 13 11 19 16 12 14.75
13 South Carolina 0.4396 1121 0.3899 618 0.419 12 14 13 13 14 13 13.25
14 Michigan State 0.4222 1509 0.5249 696 0.4719 31 22 19 11 18 18 19.25
15 Georgia 0.4132 1299 0.4518 572 0.3878 15 18 14 25 15 16 16
16 Kansas State 0.3647 896 0.3117 328 0.2224 9 15 15 10 9 14 12
17 Wisconsin 0.3224 1420 0.4939 654 0.4434 37 24 35 18 34 25 29.5
18 Texas 0.3116 618 0.215 339 0.2298 11 11 16 20 11 17 13.75
19 Nebraska 0.2988 883 0.3071 530 0.3593 34 19 21 15 21 20 20.25
20 Georgia Tech 0.2021 651 0.2264 354 0.24 27 23 23 22 20 22 22.5
21 Auburn 0.1943 371 0.129 109 0.0739 10 21 20 14 17 15 16.5
22 Cincinnati 0.1887 645 0.2243 386 0.2617 28 20 22 37 24 24 24.5
23 Southern Mississippi 0.1792 384 0.1336 301 0.2041 25 16 17 32 23 19 21
24 Michigan 0.1741 506 0.176 334 0.2264 36 17 18 27 25 23 23.25
25 TCU 0.0493 201 0.0699 115 0.078 35 29 38 35 49 37 36.25
26 Baylor 0.0325 16 0.0056 3 0.002 16 26 29 24 19 31 24.5

Coaches Poll
1. LSU
2. Stanford
3. Oklahoma State
4. Alabama
5. Boise State
6. Oregon
7. Oklahoma
8. Arkansas
9. Virginia Tech
10. Clemson
11. Houston
12. Penn State
13. Michigan State
14. Wisconsin
15. South Carolina
16. Georgia
17. Nebraska
18. Cincinnati
19. Georgia Tech
20. Texas
21. Michigan
22. Kansas State
23. Southern Mississippi
24. TCU
25. Auburn

Others Receiving Votes: Arizona State (6-3) 49; Florida State (6-3) 44; Ohio State (6-3) 22; Notre Dame (6-3) 22; Washington (6-3) 10; Iowa (6-3) 8; West Virginia (6-3) 6; Texas A&M (5-4) 6; Baylor (5-3) 3; Rutgers (6-3) 2; Virginia (6-3) 1; Miami (Fla.) (5-4) 1; Arkansas State (7-2) 1

The Coaches just aren't buying into OSU for some reason.

What time does the new BCS poll come out?!

From what it appears, if OU beats OSU and Stanford loses to Oregon, won't that allow Alabama to rise to number 2?

From what it appears, if OU beats OSU and Stanford loses to Oregon, won't that allow Alabama to rise to number 2?

That's definately what it looks like, but maybe LSU will lose so that will move Bama to #1 and OU to #2.

There are situations that'd allow Alabama to go back to number 2. They might even jump other undefeated teams with how hard the SEC is. We won't really know how all the algorithms will play out until the end of the season, but Alabama is definitely still in the title hunt.

The voters know what most Oklahomans refuse to admit, that both OU and OSU are not talented enough or strong enough defensively to compete with LSU or Ala. Anyone who truly believes OU or OSU would beat or even compete evenly with those two or even Stanford is drinking the cool-aid. We have seen all too often a good OU team in the Big 12 get killed when scheduled against USC,LSU, BoiseState, even WVU.When OU has a legitimate NC contender they may lose a game but not to TT.

Yeah, there is definitely going to be a major push for an all SEC title game now. Bama only fell to...3.

BCS STANDINGS - NOV. 6, 2011
Team BCS Average
1 LSU .9931
2 Oklahoma State .9447
3 Alabama .8836
4 Stanford .8749
5 Boise State .8473
6 Oklahoma .7978
7 Oregon .7708
8 Arkansas .7452
9 Clemson .6435
10 Virginia Tech .5913
11 Houston .5510
12 Penn State .4838
13 South Carolina .4528
14 Kansas State .3808
15 Georgia .3696
16 Texas .3664
17 Michigan State .3372
18 Wisconsin .3046
19 Nebraska .2792
20 Auburn .2097
21 Georgia Tech .2094
22 Southern Miss .2039
23 Cincinnati .1869
24 Michigan .1768
25 Baylor .0708

The Coaches just aren't buying into OSU for some reason.

They've obviously seen the offensive numbers put up on a suspect OSU defense in the last two weeks.

They've obviously seen the offensive numbers put up on a suspect OSU defense in the last two weeks.

They've had them ranked #3 or lower longer than just 2 weeks.

The voters know what most Oklahomans refuse to admit, that both OU and OSU are not talented enough or strong enough defensively to compete with LSU or Ala. Anyone who truly believes OU or OSU would beat or even compete evenly with those two or even Stanford is drinking the cool-aid. We have seen all too often a good OU team in the Big 12 get killed when scheduled against USC,LSU, BoiseState, even WVU.When OU has a legitimate NC contender they may lose a game but not to TT.

Disagree. First, both could beat Stanford. Stanford has beat zero good teams this season. Stanford is good and would play OU and OSU pretty evenly, but both could beat them. Stanford struggled with maybe the worst BCS conference team this week in Oregon State. Secondly, OU could definitely compete with LSU and Bama. I wouldn't pick them to win, but they could compete and if they played an A+ game, beat them. Neither of those teams have great offenses (albeit great Ds).

As much as I want OU to win out and win Bedlam,it would not bother me one bit to see OSU go on to the NC game and I'd even root for em'.I still want OU to win Bedlam.

As much as I want OU to win out and win Bedlam,it would not bother me one bit to see OSU go on to the NC game and I'd even root for em'.I still want OU to win Bedlam.

Same here...Not doing backflips over yet another Fiesta...Be fine with OSU trying to upset LSU in the NC

^^I root for the Pokes some times but never texas,well I take that back I wanted the horns to beat USC to end thier 30 something game winning streak because it was getting to close to 47!

When OU has a legitimate NC contender they may lose a game but not to TT.

You could be right but it's happened before. In 1975 OU lost to an unranked Kansas team 23 - 3 with only two more games left in the regular season and then still came back to win the national championship.

http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/29532522/33174921

Talk about getting kicked by the Big East. They are now talking to BYU and SDSU. Both of whom have had some level of talks with the Big 12 in the past. Not that they were the top pick of the crop of potential schools, but at least the Big East isn't going to sit by.

Big 12 really needs to start pushing forward with additional schools. They've been considerably quiet recently, so many there is something going on in the background. I hope.

http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/29532522/33174921

Talk about getting kicked by the Big East. They are now talking to BYU and SDSU. Both of whom have had some level of talks with the Big 12 in the past. Not that they were the top pick of the crop of potential schools, but at least the Big East isn't going to sit by.

Big 12 really needs to start pushing forward with additional schools. They've been considerably quiet recently, so many there is something going on in the background. I hope.

It's a sad day when the Big East can "rebound" better and faster than the Big XII can.

Coaches Poll
1. LSU
2. Oklahoma State
3. Alabama
4. Oregon
5. Oklahoma
6. Arkansas
7. Virginia Tech
8. Clemson
9. Stanford
10. Houston
11. Boise State
12. Michigan State
13. Wisconsin
14. South Carolina
15. Georgia
16. Nebraska
17. Kansas State
18. Michigan
19. TCU
20. Southern Mississippi
21. Penn State
22. Florida State
23. Georgia Tech
23. West Virginia
25. Notre Dame

Others Receiving Votes: Cincinnati (7-2) 84; Baylor (6-3) 56; Texas (6-3) 27; Virginia (7-3) 24; Rutgers (7-3) 15; Tulsa (7-3) 10; Missouri (5-5) 5; Arkansas State (8-2) 5; Texas A&M (5-5) 5; Brigham Young (7-3) 4; Northern Illinois (7-3) 2; Arizona State (6-4) 2; Utah (6-4) 2

BCS projections for today, which might be a little off, aren't that far from the expected line up.

1) LSU
2) Oklahoma St
3) Alabama
4) Oregon
5) Oklahoma
6) Arkansas
7) Clemson
8) Virginia Tech
9) Stanford
10) Boise State
11) Houston

The interesting thing here is LSU has already played Alabama and Oregon, so the chances of a rematch in the title game are increasing. Oklahoma State controls its destiny. Oklahoma is probably going to need some help, even with a win over OSU. Of course if Arkansas beats LSU, they may jump an OU that beats OSU. Alabama is almost certain to win out now. Not sure how the tie breaker works in the SEC to decide who from the division goes to the conference title game, but Bama would obviously be ranked higher in the BCS. Oregon still has two tough games to go. USC has a chance to give them a second loss and Oregon State is normally a close game.

For Oklahoma that loss to Texas Tech is going to sting like a no tomorrow. They lost focus for the night and gave it away. At the very least though they should get a good bowl game. Right now it looks like Fiesta is a lock. If OSU wins the game, they go to the BCS title game and OU goes to the Fiesta as the Big 12 rep. If OSU loses the game, OU wins the Big 12 title and goes to the Fiesta as the Big 12 rep...unless they can manage to jump to 2nd. Not a bad position to be in to be almost guaranteed a BCS bowl.

As far as any Non-AQ team getting into the BCS this year, obviously Boise was likely until TCU kicked them in the teeth. If TCU wins out, they win their conference and Boise gets forced to mid-major bowl their conference has an agreement with. If TCU loses once and Boise wins out, Boise wins their conference and will likely get a BCS slot. If Boise doesn't get an BCS slot, Houston looks like they have a great chance of getting one.

Still a lot of moving parts, but if I was an OU fan at this point I would think booking tickets to Arizona almost seems to be a lock now.

OMG Oregon is ahead of Oklahoma!! The NCAA set this up! They're against OU, I just know it!!!!!

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Still a lot of moving parts, but if I was an OU fan at this point I would think booking tickets to Arizona almost seems to be a lock now.

Hopefully there won't be another ouch of a sting along the way.

What's the chances that we play Boise State in the Fiesta Bowl again?

What's the chances that we play Boise State in the Fiesta Bowl again?

Depends in TCU wins out. If they do...zero. Non-AQ schools MUST win their conference championship to be considered.

http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/29532522/33174921

Talk about getting kicked by the Big East. They are now talking to BYU and SDSU. Both of whom have had some level of talks with the Big 12 in the past. Not that they were the top pick of the crop of potential schools, but at least the Big East isn't going to sit by.

Big 12 really needs to start pushing forward with additional schools. They've been considerably quiet recently, so many there is something going on in the background. I hope.

That's a whole lot of distance between BYU, SDSU and the Big East.

It is looking like the Fiesta yet again so this Sooner fan is ok with OSU taking bedlam this year

It is looking like the Fiesta yet again so this Sooner fan is ok with OSU taking bedlam this year

I would not be hurt to see them win Bedlam just to get them into the BCS title game for the Big 12. It does nothing to OU's post season play at this point.

This Sooner fan would not mind seeing OSU playing for a NC either!

Add me to the list. Boomers Sooner/Go Pokes!

BCS Standings
BCS Rank Team BCS Avg Harris Votes Harris Pct Coaches Votes Coaches Pct Sagarin Colley Anderson-Hester Billingley Massey Wolfe CPU Avg
1 LSU 0.9933 2875 1 1475 1 1 2 2 1 2 1 1.5
2 Oklahoma State 0.9642 2750 0.9565 1410 0.9559 2 1 1 2 1 2 1.5
3 Alabama 0.9099 2620 0.9113 1340 0.9085 3 4 3 4 3 3 3.25
4 Oregon 0.8755 2545 0.8852 1300 0.8814 4 5 5 3 7 4 4.5
5 Oklahoma 0.84 2379 0.8275 1228 0.8325 6 3 4 5 4 5 4.5
6 Arkansas 0.7974 2297 0.799 1170 0.7932 5 7 6 7 5 6 6
7 Clemson 0.6935 2024 0.704 1042 0.7064 11 9 12 9 8 8 9.25
8 Virginia Tech 0.6755 1949 0.6779 1045 0.7085 18 10 9 11 10 9 10
9 Stanford 0.6747 2041 0.7099 1024 0.6942 10 12 10 6 14 10 10.5
10 Boise State 0.5959 1766 0.6143 831 0.5634 14 8 11 8 13 11 10.75
11 Houston 0.5673 1792 0.6233 927 0.6285 19 13 13 17 16 12 14.75
12 South Carolina 0.5278 1324 0.4605 727 0.4929 8 11 8 13 9 13 10.25
13 Kansas State 0.4965 1092 0.3798 501 0.3397 7 6 7 10 6 7 6.75
14 Georgia 0.4528 1366 0.4751 698 0.4732 16 16 14 18 12 17 15.75
15 Michigan State 0.4393 1471 0.5117 791 0.5363 21 19 21 12 21 16 19.25
16 Nebraska 0.3817 1260 0.4383 615 0.4169 22 18 17 14 22 18 18.75
17 Wisconsin 0.3329 1390 0.4835 745 0.5051 30 25 26 16 34 26 26.75
18 Michigan 0.295 896 0.3117 477 0.3234 26 14 15 19 23 22 19.75
19 TCU 0.2522 692 0.2407 392 0.2658 20 20 24 15 24 14 19.75
20 Southern Mississippi 0.2449 699 0.2431 386 0.2617 28 15 18 22 26 15 20.25
21 Penn State 0.2303 765 0.2661 361 0.2447 24 17 19 24 19 24 21.5
22 Baylor 0.1361 145 0.0504 56 0.038 9 22 20 23 11 19 18
23 Texas 0.1196 88 0.0306 27 0.0183 13 21 16 31 15 21 18.25
24 Auburn 0.0785 16 0.0056 0 0 15 27 22 21 18 20 20.25
25 Florida State 0.073 261 0.0908 189 0.1281 38 34 40 33 44 34 36.5

Alabama should be ranked lower than OU. I'm not sure how that got cheated. OU better terminate OSU on Grand Bedlam Day. USC should terminate Oregon extremely easily. OU should terminate OSU, as I've already said. That puts LSU, Alabama, and OU in a trio fight... Similar to a few years ago when OU was robbed the chance to play the final game. Something tells me that its going to happen again...

You know, just because you know the word "cheat" doesn't mean everything you label with it is true. In fact, it's pretty much lost all meaning there.

Alabama is ahead of OU because they lost to an undefeated team that was, and is, number one in the nation, by three points. OU lost to an unranked team that now has 5 losses. The only advantage OU has over Alabama right now is that Alabama is in the SEC, and voters are going to be wary of having two SEC teams in the title games if OU won out.

I wasn't thinking of Alabama being in the SEC along with LSU. lol

Does the computers still figure in past games or do they all only figure in the day's games each new ranking?

The entire season of all teams are considered.

The entire season of all teams are considered.

So, when Texas Tech keep losing games AFTER they defeated OU will keep hurting OU more and more?

That's how strength of schedule works, the entire season is what's important, not just the one game.

The inverse is true too as well. If you beat a team early, and that team rebounds and gets to be highly ranked, it helps you more.

So, when Texas Tech keep losing games AFTER they defeated OU will keep hurting OU more and more?

This is when I like you the most, Thunder, when you're making logical points.

And yes, the more Texas Tech loses the worse it makes us look and the more it hurts us.

This is when I like you the most, Thunder, when you're making logical points.

And yes, the more Texas Tech loses the worse it makes us look and the more it hurts us.

Sweetie, I don't know what is worse... Texas Tech losing or OSU losing. LOL!!! I think in that case, it was best for Texas Tech to lose, because it keeps OSU very high up there, which is a gift-wrapped present with a bow on top for OU to rip apart. ;-)

So looking at other teams of interest and their rank in the BCS - which plays into SOS for OU or just the Big 12 overall.

WVU - #27
Missouri - #31
TAMU - #33
ISU - #45
Texas Tech - #46
Ball State - #67
Kansas - #73

This is an interesting excerpt from Stewart Mandel's SI column.


The "which rematch?" debate may be moot since Alabama already sits above Oregon in both the polls and computers, though the Ducks face another ranked foe next week when No. 18 USC (8-2) visits Eugene. 'Bama has Georgia Southern next week, then the Iron Bowl against reeling Auburn (6-4). The Ducks will also get an additional game -- the Pac-12 championship -- if they keep winning. But will it be enough?

"Not likely, unless the voters decide to [elevate Oregon]," said CollegeBCS.com analyst Jerry Palm. "They'd have to change their mind. Alabama is going to be a better computer team at 11-1 than Oregon even at 12-1. I think if you seen any voter movement, it would be for Oklahoma."

Ah yes, the Sooners. No. 5 Oklahoma is perhaps the only other contender that could prevent a rematch, though it's unclear whether the Sooners would be any more popular. Beating 11-0 Oklahoma State on the road on the final night of the season would be an incredibly persuasive last impression, and Bob Stoops would undoubtedly come equipped with talking points to the postgame press conference. Detractors: You lost at home to Texas Tech. Stoops: We beat three ranked teams on the road (Florida State, Kansas State and the Cowboys) and finished first in what every computer ranking says is the toughest conference.

"If Oklahoma wins on that last day, beating the No. 2 team in the country, I don't think people will care that they lost to Texas Tech," said Palm. "I think they'll care they haven't played LSU."



Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/stewart_mandel/11/13/lsu-alabama-oregon-rematch-debate/index.html#ixzz1df5NYw7L

Well...it could have been MUCH worse.

Here are the FULL rankings. Yes it is a long list. USC and now Miami-Florida are not eligible to go to bowls. USC has the NCAA sanctions on them prohibiting post season play. Miami self instituted today a ban on post season play. Hence why they carry rank 999.

Black Bold - Big 12 teams
Red Bold - Interesting Rankings
Blue Bold - Incoming Big 12 teams

BCS Standings
BCS Rank Team BCS Avg Harris Votes Harris Pct Coaches Votes Coaches Pct Sagarin Colley Anderson-Hester Billingley Massey Wolfe CPU Avg
1 LSU 1 2875 1 1475 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
2 Alabama 0.9491 2758 0.9593 1413 0.958 2 3 3 3 3 2 2.75
3 Arkansas 0.8985 2619 0.911 1349 0.9146 4 6 4 5 4 4 4.25
4 Oklahoma State 0.8408 2267 0.7885 1156 0.7837 3 2 2 2 2 3 2.25
5 Virginia Tech 0.7842 2302 0.8007 1242 0.842 18 7 7 10 9 7 8.25
6 Stanford 0.7711 2371 0.8247 1222 0.8285 11 10 8 4 14 9 9.5
7 Boise State 0.6881 2037 0.7085 982 0.6658 10 8 9 7 12 8 8.75
8 Houston 0.6684 2060 0.7165 1075 0.7288 15 9 10 16 11 12 12
9 Oklahoma 0.6526 1719 0.5979 826 0.56 6 4 6 8 6 6 6
10 Oregon 0.6469 2036 0.7082 933 0.6325 9 12 15 6 13 10 11
11 Kansas State 0.5896 1362 0.4737 671 0.4549 5 5 5 9 5 5 5
12 South Carolina 0.564 1511 0.5256 806 0.5464 8 13 11 12 8 11 10.5
13 Georgia 0.5189 1559 0.5423 803 0.5444 13 16 13 21 10 15 14.25
14 Michigan State 0.5017 1685 0.5861 928 0.6292 22 18 18 11 23 17 18.75
15 Michigan 0.398 1164 0.4049 618 0.419 23 11 12 17 22 16 16.75
16 Wisconsin 0.3939 1506 0.5238 808 0.5478 28 21 23 15 32 23 23.75
17 Clemson 0.3634 1128 0.3923 587 0.398 21 17 19 14 20 18 18.5
18 Baylor 0.323 616 0.2143 302 0.2047 7 15 14 19 7 13 12.25
19 Penn State 0.3055 943 0.328 455 0.3085 24 14 16 20 21 19 19
20 TCU 0.3027 872 0.3033 494 0.3349 20 19 24 13 24 14 19.25
21 Nebraska 0.1485 442 0.1537 165 0.1119 26 20 20 18 25 21 21.5
22 Notre Dame 0.0945 281 0.0977 156 0.1058 30 22 21 22 29 28 25.25
23 Georgia Tech 0.0873 357 0.1242 203 0.1376 31 29 28 24 30 30 29.25
24 Auburn 0.075 94 0.0327 33 0.0224 14 28 25 23 19 20 21.75
25 Texas 0.0746 9 0.0031 1 0.0007 17 23 17 32 16 25 20.5
26 West Virginia 0.0679 278 0.0967 158 0.1071 35 33 30 29 34 32 32.25
27 Virginia 0.0605 222 0.0772 154 0.1044 36 34 41 31 44 33 36
28 Texas A&M 0.0576 0 0 4 0.0027 12 27 22 27 15 24 22
29 Missouri 0.0322 3 0.001 8 0.0054 16 32 29 26 17 26 24.5
30 Iowa State 0.0239 3 0.001 1 0.0007 19 31 37 28 18 29 26.75
31 Tulsa 0.0226 64 0.0223 23 0.0156 25 25 26 25 28 22 25.25
32 Southern Mississippi 0.0191 116 0.0403 25 0.0169 34 24 27 40 26 27 28.5
33 Rutgers 0.0182 52 0.0181 54 0.0366 42 30 38 35 42 34 37.25
34 Brigham Young 0.0061 12 0.0042 21 0.0142 49 39 48 41 54 44 45.5
35 Arkansas State 0.0033 9 0.0031 10 0.0068 44 26 34 37 36 31 34.5
36 Northern Illinois 0.0026 3 0.001 10 0.0068 58 41 61 45 64 43 51.75
37 Florida State 0.0025 20 0.007 1 0.0007 48 42 31 42 33 49 41.25
38 Cincinnati 0.0014 12 0.0042 0 0 39 35 32 38 35 36 36
39 Iowa 0.0007 6 0.0021 0 0 37 37 45 46 47 40 42
40 Utah 0.0007 0 0 3 0.002 38 36 49 39 48 38 40.75
41 Ohio 0.0002 2 0.0007 0 0 74 46 68 63 72 61 66
42 Florida 0 0 0 0 0 27 44 33 30 31 35 32.25
43 Texas Tech 0 0 0 0 0 29 56 36 34 27 46 36.25
44 North Carolina 0 0 0 0 0 40 38 35 53 38 37 38.25
45 Washington 0 0 0 0 0 41 49 39 33 37 48 41.25
46 Mississippi State 0 0 0 0 0 32 59 46 54 40 41 45.25
47 Ohio State 0 0 0 0 0 50 50 42 36 46 50 47
48 Illinois 0 0 0 0 0 52 45 40 51 45 60 48.25
49 Tennessee 0 0 0 0 0 33 55 55 61 39 52 50.25
50 Arizona State 0 0 0 0 0 47 58 43 60 43 56 51
51 La.-Lafayette 0 0 0 0 0 70 40 51 55 63 39 52.25
52 California 0 0 0 0 0 46 54 52 62 51 55 53
52 Wake Forest 0 0 0 0 0 54 53 53 44 52 58 53
54 UCLA 0 0 0 0 0 45 52 57 59 55 53 54.25
54 Nevada 0 0 0 0 0 60 60 47 43 50 63 54.25
56 Wyoming 0 0 0 0 0 55 48 58 58 61 47 54.75
57 Southern Methodist 0 0 0 0 0 57 65 60 57 53 54 57
57 Vanderbilt 0 0 0 0 0 51 73 44 64 41 69 57
59 Toledo 0 0 0 0 0 61 43 62 66 56 51 57.5
60 San Diego State 0 0 0 0 0 59 57 54 56 60 59 57.75
61 Louisiana Tech 0 0 0 0 0 53 51 69 70 69 45 60.5
62 Louisville 0 0 0 0 0 63 61 64 52 62 64 62.5
62 North Carolina State 0 0 0 0 0 56 62 72 48 70 62 62.5
64 Pittsburgh 0 0 0 0 0 65 64 65 50 58 70 63
65 South Florida 0 0 0 0 0 67 66 56 67 59 65 64.25
66 Northwestern 0 0 0 0 0 66 63 63 47 68 66 64.5
67 Marshall 0 0 0 0 0 64 69 70 69 66 57 67
68 Purdue 0 0 0 0 0 68 72 59 77 57 74 68.25
69 Syracuse 0 0 0 0 0 69 71 67 74 67 71 69.5
70 Ball State 0 0 0 0 0 75 70 66 83 71 68 71
71 Kansas 0 0 0 0 0 62 85 76 71 65 83 73.75
72 Western Michigan 0 0 0 0 0 73 74 77 73 78 67 74.25
73 Temple 0 0 0 0 0 79 67 80 68 82 72 74.75
74 Air Force 0 0 0 0 0 76 75 75 65 77 77 75.75
75 Kentucky 0 0 0 0 0 78 82 71 78 73 85 77.75
76 East Carolina 0 0 0 0 0 77 77 79 79 81 75 78
77 Rice 0 0 0 0 0 72 80 84 97 74 76 78.5
78 Florida International 0 0 0 0 0 85 68 74 90 84 73 79
79 Connecticut 0 0 0 0 0 81 87 82 72 76 84 80.75
80 Texas-El Paso 0 0 0 0 0 80 81 81 92 83 78 81.25
80 Eastern Michigan 0 0 0 0 0 88 78 73 99 79 80 81.25
82 Western Kentucky 0 0 0 0 0 87 76 83 88 80 79 82.25
83 Navy 0 0 0 0 0 86 86 78 96 75 82 83
84 Washington State 0 0 0 0 0 82 89 85 86 85 88 86
84 Utah State 0 0 0 0 0 84 83 87 93 90 81 86
86 Arizona 0 0 0 0 0 74 88 94 81 99 86 87.25
87 North Texas 0 0 0 0 0 102 84 86 105 86 89 90.75
88 Kent State 0 0 0 0 0 95 79 91 98 92 87 91.25
89 Hawaii 0 0 0 0 0 98 93 88 87 94 95 92.5
89 Oregon State 0 0 0 0 0 83 91 105 75 102 94 92.5
89 Duke 0 0 0 0 0 96 94 89 80 91 97 92.5
92 UCF 0 0 0 0 0 97 96 93 82 93 90 93
93 Bowling Green 0 0 0 0 0 99 90 97 85 95 91 93.25
93 Boston College 0 0 0 0 0 94 98 92 76 89 101 93.25
95 Mississippi 0 0 0 0 0 89 97 90 95 96 96 94.25
95 Maryland 0 0 0 0 0 91 102 96 84 88 102 94.25
97 San Jose State 0 0 0 0 0 93 92 103 94 103 93 95.75
98 Fresno State 0 0 0 0 0 90 95 100 100 101 92 96.75
99 Minnesota 0 0 0 0 0 92 101 95 107 87 103 97.75
100 Miami (Ohio) 0 0 0 0 0 103 100 99 91 97 100 99
100 New Mexico State 0 0 0 0 0 101 99 98 104 98 98 99
102 Colorado 0 0 0 0 0 100 106 102 89 100 107 102
103 Army 0 0 0 0 0 105 107 104 101 105 104 104.5
104 UAB 0 0 0 0 0 104 103 110 103 110 99 105
105 Louisiana-Monroe 0 0 0 0 0 110 104 101 109 104 105 105.5
106 Central Michigan 0 0 0 0 0 106 108 108 106 106 106 106.5
107 Troy 0 0 0 0 0 113 105 106 102 108 109 107
108 Colorado State 0 0 0 0 0 108 109 107 110 113 110 109.25
109 Buffalo 0 0 0 0 0 107 110 113 116 107 108 109.5
110 Indiana 0 0 0 0 0 112 111 109 114 109 111 110.75
111 UNLV 0 0 0 0 0 111 112 111 115 111 114 112
111 Idaho 0 0 0 0 0 109 114 114 108 112 113 112
113 Middle Tennessee 0 0 0 0 0 116 113 112 111 115 112 113
114 Tulane 0 0 0 0 0 115 115 115 113 116 115 115
115 New Mexico 0 0 0 0 0 114 116 116 119 114 117 115.75
116 Memphis 0 0 0 0 0 117 117 117 112 117 116 116.75
117 Florida Atlantic 0 0 0 0 0 119 118 118 117 118 119 118.25
118 Akron 0 0 0 0 0 118 119 119 118 119 118 118.5
999 Southern California 0.1833 0 0 0 0 19 12 15 6 8 14 12.25
999 Miami (Fla.) 0 0 0 0 0 43 47 50 49 49 42 47

Based on this. OSU still has a shot at the title. However, I think it has to go down this road...
LSU must beat Arkansas.
Auburn must beat Alabama.

I don't think a 1 loss LSU is going to drop below 3rd.

I don't see how OK can still be in the top 10 in the BCS after two losses http://www.sturgis.com/messageboard/images/smilies/shrug.gif

I don't see how OK can still be in the top 10 in the BCS after two losses http://www.sturgis.com/messageboard/images/smilies/shrug.gif

I can... What I dont understand is Texas still ranked in the Top 25

I can... What I dont understand is Texas still ranked in the Top 25

Pure computer love from what I can tell.

25 Texas 0.0746 9 0.0031 1 0.0007 17 23 17 32 16 25 20.5

Highest computer ranking is 16th, lowest is 32nd.