A post I got off a Husker forum...


http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/FBC-GALLOWAY-COLUMN_6115489/FBC-GALLOWAY-COLUMN_6115489/

Oklahoma gasps for air after Texas' blow to gut
By Randy Galloway McClatchy Newspapers

FORT WORTH, Texas — Full credit here to the Children of the Corn, even though that was me some 16 months ago, saying Nebraska sniveled its way out of the Big 12. But it’s also me saying today that the Cornhuskers made a brilliant jump.

Next in line this morning for full credit would be the Texas Aggies. All that Reveille barking was up the right tree.

The message in both cases was simple and direct:

We don’t want our future in football, or anything else, tied to The Man in Austin.

Nebraska got out, and the Aggies are getting out. Both moves involved landing in much more stable football precincts.

Better and much more stable because there is no Daddy DeLoss guarding his Fort Knox-like vault.

Speaking of brilliance, Mr. Dodds is the best in college football in his watchdog role of protecting all things UT, no matter the big-picture consequences for others in his conference family.

It’s greed, it’s arrogance, it’s.…the American way. And certainly the University of Texas way.

Daddy DeLoss is a “(p-r-o-f-e-s-s-i-o-n-a-l”. He will hurt you.

Hello, Oklahoma.

The good folks in Norman were picking themselves up off the floor Wednesday morning, still gasping for breath after that blow to the gut that was delivered the night before.

The Sooners power-played DeLoss and Texas. They thought they could, and I thought if anyone could, they could.

Nope. They couldn’t. I was wrong.

The Aggies’ blueprint is the right way, the only way.

No power play involved at all with A&M. No negotiating, no far-end-of-the-bar deals over beers with DeLoss, and no threats.

The Aggies knew they didn’t want to be tied to Texas any longer, knew they were wanted elsewhere, and without a flexed biceps, or even harsh words, they said bye-bye to Texas University, so long to the orange and white.

Lesson learned this week by Oklahoma:

Have an option before you have threats. And don’t jack around for two weeks with your decision, giving idle chatter of it might be, it could be a move elsewhere, or maybe not. Not if UT changes its Longhorn Network monopoly, and also if DeLoss’ puppet is fired.

Was that supposed to be breaking news that Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe is DeLoss’ houseboy? If that was Oklahoma’s worry, why didn’t it come up a year ago, two years ago, or about five minutes after Beebe was hired? It appears Beebe will be fired, but that solves exactly nothing.

The Sooners talked a good game, and I personally loved the show of verbal muscle, but when it came to Jump City, the knees had no spring, and Oklahoma didn’t have the firm invite to move elsewhere.

“Elsewhere” in this case being the very much desired location of the Pac-Whatever out west.

Larry Scott, the commissioner of that conference, took a direct shot at Texas when he announced Tuesday night that the Pac-12 would stay with 12 teams because of the “culture of equality that we are committed to preserve.”

The University of Texas doesn’t do equality. It does greed.

Bottom line:

For the second time, Scott attempted to hijack Big 12 schools (four of them this time) for his conference, and with Dodds not budging off the Longhorn Network hangup, he failed again.

Word from out west Wednesday is Scott was “appalled” at the arrogance of DeLoss. Larry, Larry, Larry. Who the heck did you think you were dealing with?

Yes, the Pac-12 would have taken Oklahoma State and Texas Tech in the package, even if there was no desire to do so. But those two would be attached to Texas and Oklahoma, two of the biggest monsters in the business.

The other three were ready to go, and so was Texas, provided Texas got the final say on all the side deals.

A year ago, Texas was also ready to go, but Texas A&M was then in the package. It was the Aggies who killed that deal by refusing to move west.

The embarrassing news for Oklahoma late Tuesday night was the Pac-12 didn’t want the Sooners-Oklahoma State two-team package. Texas had to be involved. That’s why it’s very difficult at the moment to take a deep breath in Norman.

Exactly what the Aggies and Nebraska wanted to escape — being tied to DeLoss’ shoestrings — that’s where Oklahoma still finds itself.

Meanwhile, the word was already out that the Sooners had no desire for an SEC move because the school is attempting to raise its academic and football honesty image. One SEC official did say Wednesday that the conference had “issues” with considering the Sooners as a 14th team.

I wouldn’t, however, necessarily rule out the mutual interest.

It’s also a bit premature to say the Big 12 has been saved again, but if that’s indeed the case, the next question is, saved for how long? Last season, it was a conference operating on a foundation of quicksand, and at the moment the quicksand is even deeper.

When Oklahoma stepped out there the last two weeks with some strong words, it opened deeper wounds. Plus, the Sooners learned a valuable lesson:

Don’t talk tough unless you have guaranteed options. (See the Aggies.)

Otherwise, Daddy DeLoss will hurt you

So the end result of the OU bluff to flex its leverage muscle is OU comes out with less revenue, and gives up any real right to bluff further for a few years?

Pretty much. Texas gets to keep the TLN for now and at the end of the day nothing has really changed it seems. OU's insistence on being married to OSU and the ties to Texas appear to forever keep us in this abusive relationship.

It appears that it will take no less than David Boren climbing to the top of Texas Tower and finishing up the work of Charles Whitman to make some people happy. Mob mentality has taken over. That is probably OUs fault for allowing the mob to congregrate in the first place.

For a moment of comic relief check out the fake Dan Beebe twitter melddown. Courtesy of Sam Mellinger at the Kansas City Star.
http://twitter.com/#!/DanBeebe

Texas A&M was officially accepted today into the SEC. Appears they are still trying to get Missouri, but that likely won't happen. Their fall back would appear to be Virginia Tech or Florida State.

Texas A&M was officially accepted today into the SEC. Appears they are still trying to get Missouri, but that likely won't happen. Their fall back would appear to be Virginia Tech or Florida State.

Congratulations to Tex AM. I think OU will regret its blind allegiance to the Big!! and texas

okay - so we just disregard the whole OU press conference. OU/OSU/Mizzou to the SEC now.

okay - so we just disregard the whole OU press conference. OU/OSU/Mizzou to the SEC now.

Blind hope or actually hearing something now? :-P lol

Blind hope or actually hearing something now? :-P lol

blind hope. I knew better than to trust Boren but I decided to give it a try anyhow. Lesson learned. Honestly, he might have a hard time keeping his job after all is said and done.

Yeah i hear ya. At first I really wanted the Big 12 to live on and bring in some fresh blood. However seeing Texas just completely dominate everyone still with the LHN BS just makes it not worth it anymore. SEC is definitely the best option now since they wouldn't require Texas to come with. I like OU, Missouri, and maybe OSU going to the SEC. Hopefully that would also get these kids on the football team to start taking games more seriously and not playing so soft all the time.

I wanted the Big XII to stay together as well, which I probably why I got sucked into trusting Boren in the first place. The last thing I wanted was to join the PAC-12 so atleast my worst fears won't come true, thank you LHN for that one.

Yeah, the SEC really is the best option left IMO. The Big XII is on life support and the SEC remains a dominant conference and OU would probably struggle the first few years but after a couple good years of recruiting would might be able to play along with LSU and Alabama for the top dogs of the SEC. The SEC is where I would like to see OU go and maybe even OkSt and Mizzou. I'm not sure how OkSt would fit in but I'm pretty sure Mizzou would have a few bad years as well but come up and not dominate but be somewhere in the middle of the pack and have a few good years and be up there in the top 4 kinda like how they've done in the Big XII.

Blind hope but something that myself and many others would like to see.

I agree with the latest posts. Thankfully the Pac is out. If OU could pull off the SEC move, PLEASE leave OSU behind. There comes a time you stop taking your little brother on dates with you!

I can't understand why the PAC would want TX to begin with.... They have been a PITA for every conference they've been in.

This is great and of course I got it off a Missouri board

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiIkQ399hfM

For now I'm going to take Boren's word and believe we're staying in the Big 9. Not 12, I can count. I'm very dissapointed. The Big 12 should not only be renamed the Big 9 it should be named "Texas and the little 8". Now Texas gets to control which conference OU can be in? I'm going to start wearing my I HATE ORANGE shirt more often.

For now I'm going to take Boren's word and believe we're staying in the Big 9. Not 12, I can count. I'm very dissapointed. The Big 12 should not only be renamed the Big 9 it should be named "Texas and the little 8". Now Texas gets to control which conference OU can be in? I'm going to start wearing my I HATE ORANGE shirt more often.

+1

+1

No need to hate those guys any more than we already do, The OU's of the conference are allowing them to be the bully. The smart schools read the tea leaves and said no thank you. What we needed to do last year was have the B@LLs to do what 2 now 3 teams have done, but standing without Texas is obviously asking too much from our leadership

I agree with the latest posts. Thankfully the Pac is out. If OU could pull off the SEC move, PLEASE leave OSU behind. There comes a time you stop taking your little brother on dates with you!

Yeah, I agree. I get tired of big brother saying stupid a$$ crap!

The Big 12 should not only be renamed the Big 9 it should be named "Texas and the little 8".

Or one could shorthand it and call it the Bevo 9.

If Mizzou leaves you can go back to being the Big 8 :kicking:

truth in advertising would equal = BEVO and his sometimes udderly uppity herd

I can't understand why the PAC would want TX to begin with.... They have been a PITA for every conference they've been in.

That's why the PAC finally shut the door. **censored** demanded exclusive rights and control of LHN, and heaven knows what else. I don't expect the PAC will ever make overtures to **censored** again (at least as long as both parties' present leadership is in place).

Time is almost running out. Looks like just one more step until we are tied to the Big 12 for six years regardless of what happens.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/15680303/big-12-presidents-sign-off-on-revenue-sharing


Big 12 presidents sign off on revenue sharing

The Big 12 Conference says school leaders have agreed to equally share first- and second-tier television money if its members agree to give the league their TV rights for at least six years.

The revenue-sharing model had been proposed by Texas several weeks ago, but was waiting for a vote by league presidents. School leaders, who make up the Big 12 Board of Directors, voted Sunday and said each school must still approve the granting of TV rights.

The move is believed to be a way to keep the nine remaining members of the Big 12 intact after a summer of turmoil. Texas A&M is leaving for the Southeastern Conference.

Time is almost running out. Looks like just one more step until we are tied to the Big 12 for six years regardless of what happens.



PLease, please nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*sigh*

Missouri's chancellor was given the go ahead today to explore the possibility to seek new conference membership. Now to see if they act on it or use it as leverage.

At this point, the Big 12 needs to act fast or just call it good.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/15691084/source-big-ten-is-missouris-top-choice-not-sec

Missouri wants the Big Ten, but looks like they are going to "settle" for an SEC invite.

Big East is voting on exit fees today... http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/32714158

They could go up to $15 to 17 million for a school to leave. Reports are also stating that Louisville will not participate in the meeting.

Big East is reported to be inviting (next week) Boise State, Air Force, Navy, and Central Florida. Most of these are conditional on the higher exit fees being implemented.

This would take them to 10 teams and they are stating they want 12. Houston, SMU, and/or Temple are being considered. CBS is reporting a source is saying Houston and SMU will get the final two spots due to objections by Villanova on adding Temple.

As far as the Big 12 is concerned, they are now looking at becoming the smallest AQ conference in the BCS unless they go to 12. So they may need to out ahead of this and get the schools they want out of the Big East before they are locked away.

Side note on BYU. Tulsa World, Salt Lake Tribune, and now CBS reported that the demands of BYU on ESPN/ABC and Fox made it unworkable. They wanted to have it written in that no games would be played on Sunday (in any sport), guaranteed minimum games televised, and the ability to broadcast their own games (not picked up) on BYUtv. Can you say Texas Jr.?

Potentially huge news coming tonight...

Conference USA and Mountain West have announced a joint conference call tonight to announce some form of merger/combination of football programs.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7101780/source-big-east-sends-invites-five-schools-hike-exit-fee

Report for the Big East conference call today...the Big East has issued invitations to 5 schools.

Houston, Southern Methodist (SMU), and Central Florida will join in all spots.
Air Force and Boise State will join in football only.

The invitations were done little different. UCF was sent an invite separate of the other 4.

The other 4 are conditional upon the remaining schools agreeing to an exit fee increase to around $10 million. However, the exit fees won't be agreed upon unless ALL 4 conditional schools agree to join. Confused yet?

Big East is also still working with Navy to get them to join, but that isn't going so well.

To add more drama to this. MWC & CUSA went ahead to form their merged conference for football only taking it to...22...yes...TWENTY TWO...schools that will compete and participate in a conference championship. Boise State, Air Force, and UCF all participated in the CUSA/MWC vote today but did acknowledge being contacted by the Big East.

So ran a new scenario based on this new alliance thing that the MWC/CUSA have. I could see another form with the MAC and Sun Belt. Also in my scenario, the dissolution of the Big East and WAC. Also no more independents. Don't ask me how this would work in a BCS scenario. I would say it could be like...Big 12, ACC, Big Ten, PAC, and SEC are all AQs. Then the MAC/Sun Belt and CUSA/MWC either each have an AQ slot or they compete for one. If there is another Top 6 team from the other alliance combo, they can get an at-large spot. However, as much as I love my MAC...I don't see it happening.

The new conferences in my fantasy world...

Big 12
North - Kansas St., Iowa St., Colorado St., Louisville, West Virginia, Cincinnati, Air Force, Boise St.
South - Texas Tech, Texas, Oklahoma St., Oklahoma, Baylor, TCU, Kansas, Memphis

Side thought...I need to rethink my Big 12 South because holy crap that is a basketball division if I ever saw one. LOL

ACC
North - Syracuse, Rutgers, N. Carolina St., Boston College, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Pittsburgh, Connecticut
South - Miami (Fla.), Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Clemson, Duke, Wake Forest, South Florida, Florida St.

MAC/Sun Belt Alliance
Northeast - Ohio, Buffalo, Akron, Temple, Umass, E. Michigan, Kent St.
Northwest - C. Michigan, Miami (Ohio), Toledo, Bowling Green, Northern Illinois, W. Michigan, Ball St.
Southwest - La.-Monroe, North Texas, La.-Lafayette, New Mexico St., Univ TX San Ant, Texas State
Southeast - Arkansas St., S. Alabama, W. Kentucky, Fla. Atlantic, Troy, M. Tenn. St.

Conference USA/MWC Alliance
South - Tulane, Rice, Tulsa, Louisiana Tech, Navy, Army
East - Marshall, East Carolina, UAB, Southern Miss, UCF, FIU
Southwest - New Mexico, Wyoming, SMU, Idaho, UTEP, Houston
West - UNLV, Hawaii, Fresno St., Utah St., San Jose St., Nevada

Big Ten
East - Michigan St., Ohio St., Michigan, Indiana, Penn St., Purdue, Maryland
West - Illinois, Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Notre Dame

PAC 14
North - Oregon, BYU, Oregon St., Utah, Washington, Colorado, Washington St.
South - UCLA, San Diego St., USC, Arizona, Arizona St., California, Stanford

SEC
East - South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Auburn
West - LSU, Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi St., Mississippi, Missouri, Texas A&M

Looks like Boise and Air Force could be stuck and not able to accept a Big East invite. They currently can't find a conference to take their others sports, besides football, since their current conferences won't let them stay. The non-FBS conferences aren't wanting to expand either right now, so they are looking at becoming homeless if they move football to Big East.

Some news for us today. OSU and OU are in favor of taking the conference to 12 teams. Texas is favoring 10 teams but could be persuaded. Looks like they just need to tell Texas to deal with it and go back to 12 or even 14.

SEC is still talking with Missouri. Alabama wants them in the SEC East in order to give their blessing.

SEC is still talking with Missouri. Alabama wants them in the SEC East in order to give their blessing.

That is because geographically Alabama would have to move the SEC-East if Missouri was added. Alabama doesn't want to play every team in the SEC-East every year.

NYT and CBS reporting that Missouri will likely move forward and withdraw from the Big 12 after a meeting on Thursday. Sad to see this happens, but this should give the kick in the pants to get us back to 12.

Also Big East members all voted in favor of raising exit fees to $10 million (from $5M) if Air Force and Navy agree to join. I have to wonder...is $10 million really going to be enough to keep WVU, UL, and Cincy in place if the Big 12 comes calling?

I hate the idea of Missouri leaving, but not as bad as I hate the idea of this conference staying at 10 teams. If Mizzou leaves then I hope this leads us to invite West Virginia, Louisville, and Cincinnati to get back to at least 12. The conference could the go to divisions that look like this:

Big 12 North: West Virginia, Louisville, Cincinnati, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State
Big 12 South: OU, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU

The South would be stronger than the north (like it has been in the past), but at least West Virginia is a strong football program.

That's certainly a drop off from the old Big 12, but it would still be strong enough to fall anywhere from the 2nd to 5th strongest football conference in the country in any given year.

Well, not surprised to see that considering Mizzou's actions over the past 2 years.

Well, not surprised to see that considering Mizzou's actions over the past 2 years.

You're right about that. They've been like the smallest kid on the playground when teams were being chosen. They've had their hand up in the air jumping up and down saying "ME, ME, ME".

Might be nice if they could somehow take Bevoheads along for their ride. One can dream.

CBS reporting that Houston and SMU were contacted by the Big East to join, no official invite just yet it appears.

That's going to be a whole lot of traveling for some of these teams, not just football but there are a lot of other sports that participate more than just once a week.

Yeah, especially when Houston, SMU and UCF are going to be all sports members.

If Mizzou goes to the SEC East they better buy a couple 737's or have Scotty beam them to the other schools.

If Mizzou goes to the SEC East they better buy a couple 737's or have Scotty beam them to the other schools.

Most of their games would be against the SEC-East. Their travel would probably go down considerably. They border 3 SEC states and we be closer to Atlanta than half the Big XII teams in Texas.

Are you thinking of the SEC West? The East would be farther away

Are you thinking of the SEC West? The East would be farther away

Yes - thanks. SEC West. Alabama would have to move to the SEC-East to make way for Missouri and they don't want to do it. Auburn already moved to the SEC-East to make way for A&M.

and what Bama wants Bama usually gets.... if Mizzou want's in they will have to go to the East until the conference goes to 16.

I just now thought of this but if Missouri goes to the SEC, then the SEC will have 3 teams who are called the Tigers.

Mmhmm. Talk about confusing. Should know more about Missouri tomorrow morning.

I don't think Missouri will make that fatal mistake leaving the Big 12. If they do..they can kiss their program good-bye in the SEC. lmfao

I truly hope Mizzou does not leave. If they do OU strongly needs to consider a move of their own. Be Pro-Active not reactive.

I truly hope Mizzou does not leave. If they do OU strongly needs to consider a move of their own. Be Pro-Active not reactive.

Not going to happen. Even if Missouri leaves, who cares? They are middle of the pack typically for the conference, but do contend for championships every few years. With Missouri leaving it will get the Big 12 back to 12 (hopefully) with Cincy, UL, and WVU. Those schools are pretty close to Missouri caliber, if not a bit higher, in how they compete in football and also media market contributions (except WVU).

Not going to happen. Even if Missouri leaves, who cares? They are middle of the pack typically for the conference, but do contend for championships every few years. With Missouri leaving it will get the Big 12 back to 12 (hopefully) with Cincy, UL, and WVU. Those schools are pretty close to Missouri caliber, if not a bit higher, in how they compete in football and also media market contributions (except WVU).

If it were not for how unevenly the conference football teams were split then it would have been much rarer for them to play in the conference championships, they were 7th in the conference in all time wins since it went to 12.

also media market contributions (except WVU).

Parts of West Virginia are 45 miles from the White House.

Not sure how much I buy this...I don't see Big 12 holding at 9 to 10 teams.

http://articles.boston.com/2011-10-20/sports/30302763_1_west-virginia-big-east-target


West Virginia looms as next Big 12 target
October 20, 2011|Mark Blaudschun, Globe Staff

The Big 12 as expected will lose Missouri to the Southeastern Conference within the next few days, but according to sources in the Big 12, the target team to replace the Tigers is West Virginia.
According to sources in the Big 12 and Big East, the Big 12 expansion will hold at 10 teams for the time being. And while Missouri will leave for the SEC next season, West Virginia will not be available to the Big 12 until the 2014 season since the Big East will enforce the 27 month departure rule for all of its teams (Syracuse, Pittsburgh to the ACC) who are moving,
With Missouri's decision, and only the departure of West Virginia, the Big East is expected to offer inviations to Boise State, Southern Methodist, Houston, Central Florida, Air Force and Navy over the next several days.

Several schools (namely Texas) want to hold at 10 teams because they don't want to share money. They don't understand that stability is serioulsy threatened if the conference stays at 10. They have been idiots throughout this process. Blinded by greed without recognizing the instability it causes. The conference must expand to a minimum of 12 to survive long term.

If we do go back to 12 teams cause of Missouri leaving then it doesn't really matter, but if Texas gets their way then we're screwed. But I HIGHLY doubt Texas will get their way in this scenario.

What I don't understand is why David Boren doesn't see what a house of cards the Big Twelve currently is. If schools like Nebraska, Texas A&M, Colorado and Missouri are bolting, there are serious, serious flaws in the system, flaws that will ultimately threaten OU and OSU. I don't know if he's one of the people who are foolish enough to think OU's tradition will carry them through any conference. We invited TCU because they've been good for the past few years. No one cares about what happened 20 years ago, as we'll find when OU goes through its next rough patch. TV money is going to fall, and we don't have the population to support the team through the bad times.