So. Today it looks like we stay in a weak Big ?. (? because I refuse to call it the Big 12, I can count to 9)

Just call us the "bend over and become Texas' b!t@h" conference, because unless they go independent, that's what we are.

As I noted on my facebook this morning:

"Pac12 called Boren's bluff, Texas and ESPN are still happily married, and Beebe is laughing maniacally from the penthouse."

I hope OU has the power to align the other school presidents and kick Beebe out. He made his bed of Texas longhorn patties, and is now making the rest of the conference lay in it.

I'm really not upset with Texas in this whole debacle. Texas was doing what any other school with their bankroll should do, make good for Texas. It was Beebe who allowed this to happen. It was Beebe who failed to step in an lead. It was Beebe who saw the writing on the wall last year and failed to do anything about it.

Beebe is a tool. He needs to go.

So what other candidates are out there that the Big 12 could go after? If the BCS conferences can poach from each other, why can't we.

BCS Targets...
TCU - Yeah another Texas school, but decently ranked football team (since that appears to be the only thing that really matters now).
Cincinnati - Hurting this year, but usually has a bowl bound team and sees moderate success. Pretty similar to the middle of the pack in the Big 12.
Notre Dame - Likely will never happen, but would be a solid addition. Of course we'd have Texas Jr. on our hands.
Arkansas - Likely won't give up the SEC, but is a really solid match for the Big 12 South.

Non-BCS Teams...
FIU - Doing good this year. Attendance is pretty weak at home. It opens up Florida though.
Houston - Another Texas school. Would give us a school back in SE Texas that is normally pretty competitive.
Memphis - Weaker football school, usually solid in basketball. More of a Baylor (well typical year Baylor) or Kansas level.
Army - They are more likely to go to CUSA, but they are a freebie out there so just thought to add them in.
BYU - Newest of the "i'm special" club. They could bring some cash to the table, but they are way out in left field.
Colorado State - Gets us back in Colorado. However, MWC is looking at becoming BCS qualified here soon, so that is going to weigh in the decision of this school and the next two. CSU is similar to Colorado when it comes to on field performance. Some years good...others bad.
Boise State - Love em or hate em...they are a good, solid team. They don't have the massive fan base at home, but they get ratings. Big issue being way out west though and a small media market.
Fresno State - Normally they are decent, but seem to be off a bit lately. Gets us into California consistently though.

Just call us the "bend over and become Texas' b!t@h" conference, because unless they go independent, that's what we are.

As I noted on my facebook this morning:

"Pac12 called Boren's bluff, Texas and ESPN are still happily married, and Beebe is laughing maniacally from the penthouse."

I hope OU has the power to align the other school presidents and kick Beebe out. He made his bed of Texas longhorn patties, and is now making the rest of the conference lay in it.

I'm really not upset with Texas in this whole debacle. Texas was doing what any other school with their bankroll should do, make good for Texas. It was Beebe who allowed this to happen. It was Beebe who failed to step in an lead. It was Beebe who saw the writing on the wall last year and failed to do anything about it.

Beebe is a tool. He needs to go.

It was also the other schools who went along with what Texas wanted and voted 11-1 in support of it. The 1 being Nebraska who saw through the BS a long time ago. You've got nobody to blame but yourselves for standing there and letting TX do this. I still think the other schools in the Big 12 -2 -1 need to vote Beebe out and work on changing the by-laws of the conference to support equal revenue sharing. The PAC does it and so does the Big 10 and they are both pretty stable conferences.

Just call us the "bend over and become Texas' b!t@h" conference, because unless they go independent, that's what we are.

As I noted on my facebook this morning:

"Pac12 called Boren's bluff, Texas and ESPN are still happily married, and Beebe is laughing maniacally from the penthouse."

I hope OU has the power to align the other school presidents and kick Beebe out. He made his bed of Texas longhorn patties, and is now making the rest of the conference lay in it.

I'm really not upset with Texas in this whole debacle. Texas was doing what any other school with their bankroll should do, make good for Texas. It was Beebe who allowed this to happen. It was Beebe who failed to step in an lead. It was Beebe who saw the writing on the wall last year and failed to do anything about it.

Beebe is a tool. He needs to go.

FG,
I could not have said it better. I feel like I have been violated. This whole fiasco has created for me a real nasty taste for all of the former SWC members. Kicking BeBe out is one action, moving the conference HQ is another.

So what other candidates are out there that the Big 12 could go after? If the BCS conferences can poach from each other, why can't we.Because, whatever else some might want this to be about it's about football and the money that football generates. None of those schools have a long term reputation in football that brings in the dollars. Not comparable to Nebraska, Colorado and A&M. If the Big ? can't lure three schools with football programs that match what was lost then the Big ? is also lost. And I don't see that happening.

There are no options out there that will improve the big? 9. They all pull the conference down to ACC level at best, mid-major at worst. It's going to hurt recruiting and ultimately OU risks losing national prominence.

All this crap talk by sooner fans about Texas is pathetic. It's like a republican vs democrat argument here. Do I expect you to think impartial about this situation and ever be on Texas' side? No. The joke is on OU and Boren since the Pac 12 doesn't want them without Texas and carrying OSU on their back doesn't help their cause. And OU has no problem having power and being big brother over OSU. If OU is so great and has as much clout as Texas why don't they get their own TV network? I know it's been suggested before. But because Texas beat them to the punch now they're having a fit and want out. Big 10 and Pac 12 doesn't want OU and OU doesn't want to go to SEC so where do they go? Just make it work.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=AgS16o.hRPWlT9DAtXGx7KY5nYcB?slug=dw-wetzel_big_12_lives_to_play_092111

There are no options out there that will improve the big? 9. They all pull the conference down to ACC level at best, mid-major at worst. It's going to hurt recruiting and ultimately OU risks losing national prominence.

What is there to pull down? Most would argue it is already there. However, if you want to push the fact that 5 schools are in the Top 25 (yes one is A&M)...you can still argue that the Big 12-ish is still a decent conference.

At this point people need to realize a few things. For the moment, OU isn't getting into the SEC, PAC, or Big 10. That door is shut, deal with it and move on. So you have to go the next part on how to repair the football program of the conference. Why not make a play to go grab Air Force before the Big East? For them, it makes more sense to play in the Big 12 - location wise. It also adds value to the conference with increased viewers with it being a service academy.

At the end of the day, people need to get out of the fantasy world of re-creating an SEC here in the plains for OU to be part of. Unfortunately OU is screwed out of moving to the SEC or another conference because of being tied to OSU. So with that, what schools would be the best options to go after to replace the departing teams.

OU, OSU, Missouri, and Texas A&M will be in the SEC-West in 4 weeks. Auburn and Mississippi St will move to the SEC-East. This season will be the last OU/Texas game.

The simplest answer still seems to be to have the other Big 12 schools redefine the conference by-laws and doing equal revenue sharing and TV network and if TX doesn't like it they are welcome to leave the conference. JMHO

The simplest answer still seems to be to have the other Big 12 schools redefine the conference by-laws and doing equal revenue sharing and TV network and if TX doesn't like it they are welcome to leave the conference. JMHO

I would be Okay with that also, but I would like to see them go back to 12 teams, sans Texas, and move the conference headquarters to OKC or Wichita.

I would be Okay with that also, but I would like to see them go back to 12 teams, sans Texas, and move the conference headquarters to OKC or Wichita.

That's just stupid wanting to boot out Texas. So it's not about equal revenue sharing and more so about just plain hating Texas and not wanting to play them?

It isn't about hating anyone. The OU/Texas game will end because OU isn't going to use their one non-conference game to play Texas on the 2nd Saturday in October. OU will be well into the SEC-West race at that point with A&M, Missouri, OSU, Arkansas, LSU, Alabama, and Mississippi. There won't be time to play with Texas.

It was Beebe who was lauded for pulling the Big Whatever back together last year. I knew then it was a mistake to stay tied to Texas and not go to the PAC-10. Wish I'd been wrong.

Just a short message from the folks in Nebraska :wink:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-GoaCMCQZWWk/TZc47QdIwLI/AAAAAAAAAIM/rrzzmkDtP7o/s1600/i-told-you-so1.jpg

They just need to figure something out. Notice how none of us OSU fans are chiming in? Put us in a revenue conference and we'll be happy. I don't care if its only with Texas, only with OU, both or neither. This whole deal is ludicrous!

At this point several things need to happen at the same time. 1) Invites to West Virginia and TCU need to be made, along with an invite to any of the following schools: BYU, South Florida, Air Force, SMU (I'd love to see Arkansas come back, ain't gonna happen tho). 2) New bylaws and revenue sharing platform in place. 3) Bebee gets his incompetent a$5 out as commish, and someone who knows how to organize in an unbiased way steps in.

I hate to admit it, but my heart sank a little when I heard the news last night. I don't hate Texas, but after all this it seems their ultimate goal is to be bigger than Notre Dame.

Upon further review

OU, OSU not headed to Pac-12, which OU regent calls an ‘academically and athletically superior’ conference.

http://www.okgazette.com/oklahoma/article-13067-upon-further-review.html

The new Big 12...

*New commissioner

*Equal revenue sharing of all television revenue and the creation of a Big12 Network.

A conference should be a conference of equals and therefore all television revenue should be equal period. No more of each school going their own way and creating their own network either you are part of a conference or you are not.
The other successful conference do it this way and they do not have members leaving. Texas will not be able to join another conference without making major concessions to the TLN - so why should the Big12 allow it. If the PAC is getting enough for their 3rd tier television to give each of their members 15 million -- how much can the Big 12 get.

Until all the schools agree to equal sharing the conference realignment issue will come back and bite them again and again. This issue and all other issues need to be settled now.

Expansion; To start off we target 3 schools to get back to 12 members, logically it makes sense to add Air Force, BYU and TCU.
Then we give 4 additional schools a five year audition. This would shows that the Big12 is serious about being one of the surviving conferences

None of them are glamorous names but lets be honest with ourselves there are no glamorous named schools to be had. Adding Big East schools just doesn’t make logical sense besides the Big East is also in aggressive expansion and survival mode.

What the four audition schools do offer is media markets, potential, and proximity. The 4 audition schools would be Colorado State, Houston, Memphis and New Mexico.
With the addition of BYU, Colorado State, Memphis and New Mexico we just added 4 top 50 media markets to the conference. Add in a conference championship game we now have lots of reason for renegotiations with the television networks.

At that point with 16 teams lets go to pod scheduling meaning 9 conference games a year ala 3-2-2-2.

The pods could look something like this;

Mountain Pod: Air Force, BYU, Colorado St, and New Mexico
Texas Pod: Baylor, Houston, Texas Tech and TCU
Central Pod: OU, OSU, Texas and either KU or KSU
Eastern Pod: KU or KSU, Iowa St, Memphis and Missouri

At the end of the 5 year audition period we revisit maybe everyone works out and maybe not. At least we wouldn’t be flying all over the USA as all of the schools for BYU and Memphis are in a fairly compact area.

Texas is a problem, yet not as big of a problem as dragging OSU along with you where ever you go. Baylor ISU problems as well should Mizzou jump ship. If we are going to resurrect the Big 12 I agree we need to get back into the Colorado market. It has always worked wonderfully with CU & CSU being in different leagues. I wish Oklahoma as a state (& Boone) would figure that out, works well in Georgia and Iowa to name a couple more. The loss of Nebraska and now A&M are major blows to the conference. For Nebraska the problem was Texas. It reminds me of Arkansas leaving the SWC, and why did they leave Texas. It is not a hate longhorn thing, as much as it is a Texas dominated /controlled league seems to be what they desire. I have a feeling something will be offered to the Sooners in the near future. I just hope Boren has the ability to pull the trigger without having to carry osu.

Put this in a post about something else - it should have been its own post.

I saw a great interview today from a former league commissioner back east and he thinks this is all just madness with the rush because of scheduling. We're ending up with conferences so far out of regions it's ridiculous. He said it's like if the Founding Fathers created a United States with the former colonies, Alaska, Uruguay, Costa Rica and something across the Atlantic for good measure. If you think about it, it's true. Too much, too fast. Not thought out. It's chaos.

I think OU got a hard dose of reality when the Pac 12 shut them down. They are not the hot commodity everyone here thinks they are. For the last ten years they have had a good season and just choked when bowl season arrived. Not to mention, the days of OU, Texas and Nebraska dominating football are over. More and More Freshmen are looking at the quality education they are going to receive and the quality of campus life. Many of the mediocre schools are selling the big picture not just playing for a winning team that has high levels of national media exposure. More players realize now more than ever the chances of them going to the NFL and actually landing an all star career are very slim therefore, they need a solid education to fall back on. You have to ready to get a real job after college. There is only x amount of sports radio jobs and spokesman jobs for Mom and Pop companies are not going to pay your bills on a regular basis.

I think our two biggest problems are our market size and the fact that we seem to come as a package: OU and OSU. As a state, we have a smaller population than many cities. OU may have a storied history, but we have to be honest and say that, at least in football, OSU does not. The problem is that over time, if we're in a mediocre conference, OU's storied history will vanish out of people's memories. In today's market, it's all about what you've done lately, and even the best of programs has bad decades. One bad decade in a mediocre conference and OU will be an average program in a small state, to most people. The time to move was last year, or now if we can find a conference that wants us. I'd be calling the SEC if I were Boren. It's actually a better fit and they've got 13 programs.

I think OU got a hard dose of reality when the Pac 12 shut them down. They are not the hot commodity everyone here thinks they are. For the last ten years they have had a good season and just choked when bowl season arrived. Not to mention, the days of OU, Texas and Nebraska dominating football are over. More and More Freshmen are looking at the quality education they are going to receive and the quality of campus life. Many of the mediocre schools are selling the big picture not just playing for a winning team that has high levels of national media exposure. More players realize now more than ever the chances of them going to the NFL and actually landing an all star career are very slim therefore, they need a solid education to fall back on. You have to ready to get a real job after college. There is only x amount of sports radio jobs and spokesman jobs for Mom and Pop companies are not going to pay your bills on a regular basis.

Oh, please. They are not. First of all, besides the quarterback position and a few others, most of these players (80% at OU) are "special admits" - in other words, they wouldn't even be able to go to the University of Oklahoma without the waiver as a special admission. They aren't thinking about academics - period. They're thinking about football - period.
That's the dose of reality.

Oh, please. They are not. First of all, besides the quarterback position and a few others, most of these players (80% at OU) are "special admits" - in other words, they wouldn't even be able to go to the University of Oklahoma without the waiver as a special admission. They aren't thinking about academics - period. They're thinking about football - period.
That's the dose of reality.

I was not talking about all of them. You right, there always be plenty of lunkheads that want nothing more than to play on a championship team. The majority of these lunkheads will never grow past their college football stardom. Their destined to being 300 pound radio radio commentators and hocking blue collar products and services.

I was just saying more players are looking at more then playing for a championship team.

Personally, I am hoping OU, OSU and Texas will each go their own way. I am tired of all the antics that go on that make this area of the country look like the world's largest trailer park. OSU will always be team that has a 3-5 loss season. OU and Texas will have years of championships and years of failure. Their success rate is based entirely on how much money the regents can strong arm from the members of their alumni associations. When the money flow is heavy they have a winning team. When money flow is light to moderate they have a rough season. Let's face it OU and Texas are known for their shady tactics. For years OU and Texas have moved players to their backyard from other states while the kid was still in last year or two of high school. Mom and Dad get a free home, free cars with all expenses paid. The only requirement is junior has to commit to sign to OU or Texas.

According to an ESPN article the main reason the PAC didn't expand is the TLN.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/6998978/answering-questions-ever-changing-college-sports-landscape

I live in PAC 10 country the news out here is The problem is the Longhorn network. USC does not like it nor UCLA. OU would be acceptable but not with OSU. Others were speaking of the Sooners or Longhorns paying off players and parents. That is not even hidden out here with SC. Even attending class is optional, I saw Alex Smith and Reggie Bush go thru that cycle. Next door neighbors kid is being recruited by the PAC schools for baseball you should see and hear some of the offers, unbelievable.

According to an ESPN article the main reason the PAC didn't expand is the TLN.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/6998978/answering-questions-ever-changing-college-sports-landscape

Thank you. TLN is THE reason there is not a PAC-16 today.

I live in PAC 10 country the news out here is The problem is the Longhorn network. USC does not like it nor UCLA. OU would be acceptable but not with OSU. Others were speaking of the Sooners or Longhorns paying off players and parents. That is not even hidden out here with SC. Even attending class is optional, I saw Alex Smith and Reggie Bush go thru that cycle. Next door neighbors kid is being recruited by the PAC schools for baseball you should see and hear some of the offers, unbelievable.

Not to mention Oregon just got a letter from the NCAA saying it is being investigated

http://dennis-dodd.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270202/32175771

Beebe should be fired today. Chuck Neinas, former Big 8 commissioner, sounds like the guy coming in to replace him.

http://dennis-dodd.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270202/32175771

Beebe should be fired today. Chuck Neinas, former Big 8 commissioner, sounds like the guy coming in to replace him.

About 3 years too late

We should have known something was wrong the day the Big 8 took on 4 Texas orphans and the conference headquarters moved to Dallas.

Thank you. TLN is THE reason there is not a PAC-16 today.

This. Per Thursday's DOK, the PAC wants nothing more to do with ut and its demands for special treatment. Plus, Dodds (ut AD) is quoted in the Statesman as saying the LHN is non-negotiable.

IMHO, OU is stuck between the proverbial rock and hard place. There will never be true "harmony" in the B12 as long as ut is a member, but if ut leaves, the conference won't survive. Much as I hate to say it, I think OU's best chance for long term success now is in the SEC

We should have known something was wrong the day the Big 8 took on 4 Texas orphans and the conference headquarters moved to Dallas.

I think you probably meant we shoulda known it was gonna end badly when the GTO's muscled up and took over the Big8 turf and money pipeline without firing a shot. Dang the complacency that allowed, and allows, dem Grimy Texas Orphans to rule da hood.

If TLH is completely off the table as Dodds likes to think, change the conference rules to adapt. If a school goes out of their way to launch their own network to carry their games, the amount earned by that network is taken out of their share of revenue that would have been generated by the conference. So money wise it is a wash. The other major issues are the recruiting implications. Complete ban on any school sponsored network from having any non-collegiate athlete or sports team from being shown.

The options we have are limited.
1) Reorganize under the Big East organization and not invite Texas.
2) Force Texas to compromise on the LHN or deal with going independent.
3) Put up with it and go begging to the PAC or SEC to try to let us in.

Yeah Texas is a major part of the Big 12, but saying that it can only survive because of Texas is the whole reason we are in this mess.

Big East is going full steam ahead...while the Big 12 slumbers still. The latest...

- Big East will be seeking an immediate removal of Syracuse and Pittsburgh from the conference.
- Football only invites are being issued to Navy and Air Force (knew this already).
- Big East has been approached by (and invites may be pending) for UCF, Houston, and ECU.

We should have known something was wrong the day the Big 8 took on 4 Texas orphans and the conference headquarters moved to Dallas.

The conference HQ should be moved out of Texas to Mo, either KC or StL

It's all becoming madness. Venture, you say HOUSTON might go to the Big EAST? This is all ridiculous - no rhyme or reason to the conferences anymore that have always been region specific. "Student athletes" - it's all just a big joke now. Make it semi-professional and let them do what they want with their network contracts, big money donors, special admit athletes to represent them and quit the farce. It's becoming comical. This is as good a time as ever with all the changes for $$$ and greed to just change everything from top to bottom. There doesn't even seem to be anybody in charge at the NCAA who could have shown some leadership and put a freeze on all this. Now, it's just chaos.

The conference HQ should be moved out of Texas to Mo, either KC or StL

I don't follow. Huskers are gone, and MO still flirts w/ leaving. Whether they are serious, or it is a bluff by MO, what are the
benefits to setting the HQ that far north in the conf., other than to take it out of Texas?

I don't follow. Huskers are gone, and MO still flirts w/ leaving. Whether they are serious, or it is a bluff by MO, what are the
benefits to setting the HQ that far north in the conf., other than to take it out of Texas?

With all these silly realignments with no regional rhyme or reason, they might as well put the Big 12 HQ in the Dominican Republic. It would make as much sense as the anarchy that's (not) running college football today.

It's not like the HQ is in Austin, TX. The current location in Irving is fine.

OU, OSU, Missouri, and Texas A&M will be in the SEC-West in 4 weeks. Auburn and Mississippi St will move to the SEC-East. This season will be the last OU/Texas game.

Never mind - the SEC asked OU last night and OU said no.

http://www.mrsec.com/2011/09/mizzou-site-reports-mu-to-sec-is-dead/


“The SEC talked to (Oklahoma president) David Boren late last night about the possibility of MU, OU, and OSU going to the SEC. That was rebuffed. OU is staying in the Big 12.”

Some interesting comments today from the L.A. Times :

"To be clear: Commissioner Larry Scott did meet with Texas and Oklahoma. A deal could have been done if not for some audacious other-end behavior.

The message, as one Bowl Championship Series executive familiar with the situation relayed it this week, was "Texas cannot be trusted."

The Pac-12 was willing to consider expansion again, but not on anyone else's terms.

The audacious part was Oklahoma and Texas acting as if it was their decisions to join the Pac-12, not the other way around."

Here is the link to the story.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-0922-dufresne-college-football-20110922-11,0,6872008.column

Never mind - the SEC asked OU last night and OU said no.

http://www.mrsec.com/2011/09/mizzou-site-reports-mu-to-sec-is-dead/

What makes me a little skeptical of this statement is the SEC policy of one member per state. Why would OU and OSU be asked?

What makes me a little skeptical of this statement is the SEC policy of one member per state. Why would OU and OSU be asked?

Mississippi/Mississippi St, Alabama/Auburn, Tennessee/Vanderbilt. Georgia Tech used to be in the SEC with Georgia but left back in 1964.

It would be a slap at ut and the tx legislators who cited the loss of jobs in the B12 office if the conference went under, but that's about all.

It's not like the HQ is in Austin, TX. The current location in Irving is fine.

Disagree, there was no reason for 8 schools from the Big 8 when joined with 4 schools from Texas should have moved the HQ to Texas. Get the hell out of Texas

I don't follow. Huskers are gone, and MO still flirts w/ leaving. Whether they are serious, or it is a bluff by MO, what are the
benefits to setting the HQ that far north in the conf., other than to take it out of Texas?

Why must the conference HQ be in Texas? even the NCAA moved from KC to Indy. Does anybody in OK think there are other places besides Texas for anything?

Why must the conference HQ be in Texas? even the NCAA moved from KC to Indy. Does anybody in OK think there are other places besides Texas for anything?

I didn't say it should stay in TX. I asked what benefits would come from moving the HQ as far north as KC or STL, in particular when it is not clear what the intentions of MO might be on remaining in the conf.

I guess nobody liked my idea of putting the HQ in the Dominican Republic.

I still say it makes a much sense as all these silly way-out-of-region "realignments."

So the run down of the press conferences tonight...

- No member may leave for 6 years unless TV rights are renegotiated.
- Dan Beebe was fired.
- Neinas was hired as expected.
- Conference Expansion Committee is reactivated and pushed to move quickly.
- Tier 1 and 2 television revenues are split equal with the conference now - OU will see a loss in revenue.
- Texas A&M was part of the process in arranging the new agreements so them leaving is up in the air now.
- Missouri is obviously staying now as they were the second major lead in this process with Boren & OU.

I didn't say it should stay in TX. I asked what benefits would come from moving the HQ as far north as KC or STL, in particular when it is not clear what the intentions of MO might be on remaining in the conf.
Back to KC would make the most sense, Kansas isn't going anywhere unless they have to and KC is more of a KU town than a Missouri town, Lawrence is much closer than Columbia. They could even put it in the Kansas side of KC. StL is more of a Missouri town.

Texas is and will always be the root of all the problems. The only way any of the other schools should be in a conference with them is under the terms that ALL REVENUE be equally shared, Tier 1, 2 and 3 revenues. That is something we all know that UT will never accept but the time has come to make them acquiesce to the majority instead of acting like the king of the conference.

I didn't say it should stay in TX. I asked what benefits would come from moving the HQ as far north as KC or STL, in particular when it is not clear what the intentions of MO might be on remaining in the conf.


Maybe, to minimize the INFLUENCE that comes with having the HQ in the same state with the school with the largest tv network, largest student population, largest endowment, and biggest state

Maybe, to minimize the INFLUENCE that comes with having the HQ in the same state with the school with the largest tv network, largest student population, largest endowment, and biggest state

That's just it. Devon and CHK wouldn't be headquartered in OKC if it wasn't for the the influence of natural gas and the state of their business. Banks and financial firms wouldn't be HQ in NYC if it wasn't for the fact NYC is the financial capital of the USA. Suggesting that the Big 12 headquarters in a state with the most conference member schools, student population and largest TV ratings move to MO is like suggesting JP Morgan Chase move to Ames, Iowa to escape the influence of the banking industry in NYC.

Also don't forget the Big 12 members voted 7-5 to relocate the HQ to Irving which were the 4 TX schools, OU, OSU and CU.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7006610/big-12-presidents-agree-grant-television-rights-revenue-conference

So the run down of the press conferences tonight...

- No member may leave for 6 years unless TV rights are renegotiated.
- Dan Beebe was fired.
- Neinas was hired as expected.
- Conference Expansion Committee is reactivated and pushed to move quickly.
- Tier 1 and 2 television revenues are split equal with the conference now - OU will see a loss in revenue.
- Texas A&M was part of the process in arranging the new agreements so them leaving is up in the air now.
- Missouri is obviously staying now as they were the second major lead in this process with Boren & OU.

So the end result of the OU bluff to flex its leverage muscle is OU comes out with less revenue, and gives up any real right to bluff further for a few years?

That's just it. Devon and CHK wouldn't be headquartered in OKC if it wasn't for the the influence of natural gas and the state of their business. Banks and financial firms wouldn't be HQ in NYC if it wasn't for the fact NYC is the financial capital of the USA. Suggesting that the Big 12 headquarters in a state with the most conference member schools, student population and largest TV ratings move to MO is like suggesting JP Morgan Chase move to Ames, Iowa to escape the influence of the banking industry in NYC.

Also don't forget the Big 12 members voted 7-5 to relocate the HQ to Irving which were the 4 TX schools, OU, OSU and CU.. notice how all of the northern schools voted NO and the longhorns step children OU and OSU going with their daddy to the south?

The votes by the 7 does not mean it was the "right" decision. OU and others also voted for Bebe and well you know. You can and should correct mistakes once they are known.

In your analogy are you suggesting that Texas is the football capital of the Big XXX? If so, maybe that is part of the problem. It is absolutely appropriate for large corporations to move to Washington, NY etc to exert influence, because they are looking out for the best interest of the stockholders. Texas' application of undue influence for "themselves" rather than the "stockholders" the other 11 universities has led to this debacle

Banks and financial firms wouldn't be HQ in NYC if it wasn't for the fact NYC is the financial capital of the USA.

How is that working out for us?

I don't follow. Huskers are gone, and MO still flirts w/ leaving. Whether they are serious, or it is a bluff by MO, what are the
benefits to setting the HQ that far north in the conf., other than to take it out of Texas?

I think OKC is a good central point for the headquarters.