You know OKC development is slow when we are discussing freeway signage, wow....

You know OKC development is slow when we are discussing freeway signage, wow....

There has been a slew of disappointing news lately. Hopefully things will pick back up in the positive direction.

You know OKC development is slow when we are discussing freeway signage, wow....

How have things been slow? I frankly can't keep up with all the stuff being proposed/built.

^ but doesn't Dallas use 'Denton' on I-35 there instead of Oklahoma City as it's control city?

No. When you leave downtown Dallas, when exiting onto northbound I-35, both Oklahoma City and Denton are signed. There are two more interstate signs that direct to Oklahoma City, once when you leave Carrolton, and again between Lewisville and Denton.

No. When you leave downtown Dallas, when exiting onto northbound I-35, both Oklahoma City and Denton are signed. There are two more interstate signs that direct to Oklahoma City, once when you leave Carrolton, and again between Lewisville and Denton.

That sounds right. As I explained in my post earlier, Texas has switched to doing control cities like most other states rather than simply pointing to the next sizable town whether its important or not. My guess is the newer signage in DFW, in Clearview font, shows Denton and Oklahoma City as the control cities while the old signage shows only Denton.

In St. Louis, the signs on I-44 West reference Tulsa. I always thought this was weird - it should have been Oklahoma City or maybe Springfield.

No offense to the smaller cities; didn't Saint Louis used to have I-44 showing "Oklahoma City" as a control point once-upon-a-time.

I was recently in St. Louis. The signs on I-44 show Tulsa, on I-55 show Chicago/Memphis, on I-70 show Kansas City/Indianapolis and I-64 show Louisville. No small cities. Though in Tulsa I-44 shows Joplin instead of St Louis. That would be like having Ardmore instead of Dallas on the I-35 signs in OKC.

I-40 with Amarillo/Ft Smith, I-35 with Dallas/Wichita and I-44 with Lawton/Tulsa all make sense to me. Or be like Chicago and have the signs just show Texas, Kansas or Arkansas (their signs north and eastbound show Wisconsin and Indiana).

You know OKC development is slow when we are discussing freeway signage, wow....while that doesn't mean development in OKC is slow because we're discussing freeway signage. They were discussing freeway signs in the Dallas forum earlier this year, and development isn't slow in Dallas.

I agree with Bcrhis though, there has been some sh*tty news lately.

In St. Louis, the signs on I-44 West reference Tulsa. I always thought this was weird - it should have been Oklahoma City or maybe Springfield.

Tulsa is probably the right choice being that its a prominent urban area and the next one you'll hit if you leave St. Louis on I-44 westbound. Springfield is pretty much just an excuse to stop for gas and Mickey D's on your way to somewhere else. Branson is the real destination in that part of Missouri. I do believe the signs in St. Louis point to Tulsa but along most of that stretch Springfield is the control city followed by Joplin going westbound.

I'm not sure what sh*tty news you are referring to. The boulevard?

Seems to me like there's progress all over downtown.

I'm not sure what sh*tty news you are referring to. The boulevard?

Seems to me like there's progress all over downtown.BLVD, Producers Coop, AICC, NIMBY's idiots trying to stop awesome developments like Guyutes, and not to mention the capitol pretty much countering everything nice we try to do for ourselves in Oklahoma. The tower news on Reno and Walker seemed to fizzle. The Stage Center Tower will likely be small.

It isn't all that bad and I mainly hate the news about the COOP, that really sucks. There is a lot going on and obviously the population stats are good news. I don't know... just seems like a slew of bad news has come out lately. Doesn't mean development is slowing down, just some big hampers in development to overcome now.

Do you know how many real estate deals and other projects fall through in other cities?

With the exception of the AICC nothing you mentioned is any more than just the normal churn of proposals and developments.

There has been a slew of disappointing news lately. Hopefully things will pick back up in the positive direction.

The title of this discussion thread is: "Population Growth for OKC".
Where is it written that a simple increase in population is a good thing? (or vice-versa)

At some point doesn't the quality of life, for "the pre-survey population" suffer?

At least without a firm commitment to a real, non-partisan, viable vision for the future--one that isn't centered, simply, on how much [imaginary] money can be gleaned from uncontrolled "de-velopment" (and sprawl/etc.)? (vis-a-vis Population Growth without proper infrastructure maintenance and improvements) . . ?

^ but doesn't Dallas use 'Denton' on I-35 there instead of Oklahoma City as it's control city?

Is Denton that large/important of a city for a major Interstate to have it as a designation? Is Denton larger or more important than Oklahoma City? Isn't Denton part of the DFW metroplex - so why are they using it as a control city on a major interstate (I could understand I-135 or some spur freeway, but I-35?). With this the case, OKC should use Norman as a control then Denton as you go south.

^^ does I-40 go through Little Rock? I thought it went through North Little Rock and even then it didn't have a huge presence, with Little Rock itself served by spurs (I-440, I-640) and I-30 (I-630), iirc. Honestly, it should say Memphis (and in Memphis should say OKC) imo and I-40W should say ABQ since those are the major city pairs.

No offense to the smaller cities; didn't Saint Louis used to have I-44 showing "Oklahoma City" as a control point once-upon-a-time.

I've observed that Wichita is one city that gives OKC huge props as a control point within their freeway system. ... Honestly, I'd rename the Ft smith junction to the Wichita junction since it is I-40 converging with I-35, and Wichita is the largest city heading outside of that junction. But as others have said, junction really official to my knowledge and is only used by the media.

If there was one called the Wichita Junction, it seems like it should be where i35 & i44 meet, though with it having routes to both that and Tulsa it is not as clean cut for naming.

Do you know how many real estate deals and other projects fall through in other cities?

With the exception of the AICC nothing you mentioned is any more than just the normal churn of proposals and developments.who cares? I'm not talking about other cities! I'm talking about OKC.

The title of this discussion thread is: "Population Growth for OKC".
Where is it written that a simple increase in population is a good thing? (or vice-versa)

At some point doesn't the quality of life, for "the pre-survey population" suffer?

At least without a firm commitment to a real, non-partisan, viable vision for the future--one that isn't centered, simply, on how much [imaginary] money can be gleaned from uncontrolled "de-velopment" (and sprawl/etc.)? (vis-a-vis Population Growth without proper infrastructure maintenance and improvements) . . ?A lot of threads have a bunch of different titles.

There has been a slew of disappointing news lately. Hopefully things will pick back up in the positive direction.

Care to elaborate? You're slipping into Debby Downer mode again....

The tower news on Reno and Walker seemed to fizzle.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there was ever an announcement of a possible tower at Reno and Walker? The poster of the same name said that there would be "bigs news for Reno and Walker", but then he followed that up with "see you all in the funny papers". So FWIW, I don't think that post was meant as legitimate news.

A lot of threads have a bunch of different titles.

Agreed. Perhaps I misread the actual Subject implied by the Title. Perhaps "Population Growth" didn't refer to more People, rather, it referred to Growth within the existing Population. (e.g.--for example--a general agreement to stop watering pet lawns, walk more and/or ride bicycles or buses. =)

In other words . . . Growth Within the Existing Population is Preferable to More People With and/or For No Reason At All.
(well . . . ain't it? =)

p.s. There are few things more Debbie Downerish than a Fizzling Tower. Especially a Fizziling Mystery Tower. =)

Isn't there a main and Hudson tower in the horizon? Pretty sure Steve said talks are pretty hot right now for that development.

That is being heavily rumored.

I came here to read about population growth...

I came here to read about population growth...

+1

In case anyone is curious, OKC ranks 7th in population growth compared to the top 50 largest cities.

#OKC Boxscore for Monday, May 26, 2014 | News OK (http://newsok.com/okc-boxscore-for-monday-may-26-2014/article/4851006)


Oklahoma City makes the top 10 in a new list of the fastest-growing large American cities. According to U.S. Census estimates, Oklahoma City added 10,934 residents between July 2012 and July 2013. The growth rate was 1.8 percent, good for seventh on the list. Seattle’s growth rate tops the list of large cities:

•Seattle: 2.8 percent

•Denver: 2.4 percent

•Charlotte, N.C.: 2.4 percent

•Austin, Texas: 2.4 percent

•Washington, D.C.: 2.1 percent

•Fort Worth, Texas: 1.9 percent

•Oklahoma City: 1.8 percent

•San Antonio: 1.8 percent

•Phoenix: 1.7 percent

•San Jose, Calif.: 1.6 percent

In the Oklahoma City metro area, Norman was the fastest-growing suburb, ranking first in Oklahoma and 20th nationally among cities with 100,000 or more residents with a growth rate of 2.2 percent. Norman added an estimated 2,554 residents to reach a population of 118,197. The nation’s fastest-growing city was Frisco, Texas, north of Dallas. Frisco grew 6.5 percent in a year.

In case anyone is curious, OKC ranks 7th in population growth compared to the top 50 largest cities.

#OKC Boxscore for Monday, May 26, 2014 | News OK (http://newsok.com/okc-boxscore-for-monday-may-26-2014/article/4851006)Frisco is insane. It seems like in the 90's it was what Far North OKC is today out around Portland. I wonder if North OKC will become like Frisco... that would be pretty neat in my book.

You know OKC development is slow when we are discussing freeway signage, wow....

Win.

Win.how?

In the Oklahoma City metro area, Norman was the fastest-growing suburb, ranking first in Oklahoma and 20th nationally among cities with 100,000 or more residents with a growth rate of 2.2 percent. Norman added an estimated 2,554 residents to reach a population of 118,197.

Likely a mix of OKC commuters on the north side and OU-related growth, especially in research and related businesses. Hopefully this leads to more retail options an area where Norman is severely lacking.

I would really hope so. Norman strikes me as very schizophrenic towards development. It's quite embarrasing to see how much more development has taken place in Moore. I can't even begin to imagine how much sales tax Norman is losing.

Speaking of Moore, I wonder how much of Norman's growth was influenced by people temporarily displaced by the tornado or at the very least, by people who would have bought in Moore but decided not to.

I would really hope so. Norman strikes me as very schizophrenic towards development. It's quite embarrasing to see how much more development has taken place in Moore. I can't even begin to imagine how much sales tax Norman is losing.

Speaking of Moore, I wonder how much of Norman's growth was influenced by people temporarily displaced by the tornado or at the very least, by people who would have bought in Moore but decided not to.

I think it's all of the new development abutting Moore on the north and northwest sides. This part of Norman is a popular place for those commuting to downtown OKC with easy access to I-35. I think the development in Moore is just a product of that city growing as well and not that Norman is anti-development, though it certainly could do a better job attracting businesses, retail and encouraging higher density.

The only major loss for Norman is the Warren Theater. Many of the same retail chains will eventually fill up the University North Park center. I would like to see more concentrated higher end retail though in the Campus Corner area, and more higher density development in general in central Norman. Someday there will be a rail link between Norman and downtown OKC and the more density at both ends the more successful it will be.

Between Sooner Fashion Mall and UNP, Norman has decent shopping. It also has any number of reasonably upscale specialty stores as well as a decent campus corner. It doesn't have the theater. Norman doesn't have great shopping, but it isn't bad.

Sooner Mall was actually pretty cool and had some great life going on there. They can do great things with that mall!

The south metro needs a real mall or lifestyle center. Since Crossroads died that has sort of been a void down there.

The south metro needs a real mall or lifestyle center. Since Crossroads died that has sort of been a void down there.
Maybe indoor enclosed malls ought to try for a comeback by using solar panels and heat pumps, or whatever else, to bring the cost of heating and cooling them down.

Maybe indoor enclosed malls ought to try for a comeback by using solar panels and heat pumps, or whatever else, to bring the cost of heating and cooling them down.

A lifestyle center would work as well.

I came here to read about population growth...

Ok, we can merge the conversations to correlate with the title. With OKC's rapid population growth, you would think the city would see more new construction of residential, commercial, and hospitality developments but its seems like that's not happening. If you really put it in perspective, the last major announcement we had for a significant new residential construction was for LIFT, and that was in 10/2013, that was 8 months ago. It also seems like we should be seeing more office development, but there hasn't been any, not even in the hot spots in the Memorial corridor.

I just think given the population growth, we should have more new developments going on and its just not happening, new significant construction for downtown OKC is dormant.

Ok, we can merge the conversations to correlate with the title. With OKC's rapid population growth, you would think the city would see more new construction of residential, commercial, and hospitality developments but its seems like that's not happening. If you really put it in perspective, the last major announcement we had for a significant new residential construction was for LIFT, and that was in 10/2013, that was 8 months ago. It also seems like we should be seeing more office development, but there hasn't been any, not even in the hot spots in the Memorial corridor.

I just think given the population growth, we should have more new developments going on and its just not happening, new significant construction for downtown OKC is dormant.

I would say new significant announcements are dormant. Enough was announced in 2013 that will keep things under construction for quite some time. I do wonder if there is another big wave of announcements coming. Steve hinted as such as Christmastime but it never materialized.

Ok, we can merge the conversations to correlate with the title. With OKC's rapid population growth, you would think the city would see more new construction of residential, commercial, and hospitality developments but its seems like that's not happening. If you really put it in perspective, the last major announcement we had for a significant new residential construction was for LIFT, and that was in 10/2013, that was 8 months ago. It also seems like we should be seeing more office development, but there hasn't been any, not even in the hot spots in the Memorial corridor.

I just think given the population growth, we should have more new developments going on and its just not happening, new significant construction for downtown OKC is dormant.

I'm interested to see what kind of development level you think we should be experiencing.

Since 10/2013: 700 West Sheridan, Civic Center Flats, GE Research Center, Tapstone Energy HQ, Blue Garten, etc. Numerous restaurants and shops in Plaza and the Rise, And I guess you can stretch and say the Stage Center Tower design was announced in December although it was known for some time. That's just off the top of my head. Pete has it organized on this page if you would like to look it up.

In terms of residential development last year there were 6,363 single family housing permits in the OKC MSA last year. That compares very well with other metros our size: Source (http://www.census.gov/construction/bps/txt/t3yu201312.txt)

Lets not forget the several apartment projects announced in both urban and suburban parts of the city as well as ones that just have been built. As of February 2014 there were 1,600 apartments built with another 3,200 in the planning stages metrowide: Source (http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-apartment-boom-woos-weary-homeowner/article/3933876)

If you are expecting cranes in the air throwing up new office buildings, well that's a vaild complaint. With that in mind there is very little spec office construction happening in this country right now. Even where I am in Dallas I cannot recall any significant spec office development currently under construction, although there are definitely some build-to-suite commercial and residential projects. I definitely think OKC could have some more mid rise or for sale housing in the core.

With that in mind, I like the approach downtown is currently doing now, more reuse of historical buildings and filling up small lots here and there vs. one or two massive projects.

I'm interested to see what kind of development level you think we should be experiencing.

Since 10/2013: 700 West Sheridan, Civic Center Flats, GE Research Center, Tapstone Energy HQ, Blue Garten, etc. Numerous restaurants and shops in Plaza and the Rise, And I guess you can stretch and say the Stage Center Tower design was announced in December although it was known for some time. That's just off the top of my head. Pete has it organized on this page if you would like to look it up.

In terms of residential development last year there were 6,363 single family housing permits in the OKC MSA last year. That compares very well with other metros our size: Source (http://www.census.gov/construction/bps/txt/t3yu201312.txt)

Lets not forget the several apartment projects announced in both urban and suburban parts of the city as well as ones that just have been built. As of February 2014 there were 1,600 apartments built with another 3,200 in the planning stages metrowide: Source (http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-apartment-boom-woos-weary-homeowner/article/3933876)

If you are expecting cranes in the air throwing up new office buildings, well that's a vaild complaint. With that in mind there is very little spec office construction happening in this country right now. Even where I am in Dallas I cannot recall any significant spec office development currently under construction, although there are definitely some build-to-suite commercial and residential projects. I definitely think OKC could have some more mid rise or for sale housing in the core.

With that in mind, I like the approach downtown is currently doing now, more reuse of historical buildings and filling up small lots here and there vs. one or two massive projects.The states housing market is another story. It seems OKC is doing the best in the state.

Neighboring states outpace Oklahoma home price appreciation | News OK (http://newsok.com/neighboring-states-outpace-oklahoma-home-price-appreciation/article/4869311)

The truth of the matter is this. Land in downtown OKC is still too cheap and plentiful to support the kind of high-rise development seen in places like Austin. My guess is that as infill continues and reaches a critical mass, developments will start getting taller.

This thread is a microcosm of why I never come here anymore.

A lot of people in this thread boast about the great success that OKC is having in population growth in spite of having Conservative leaders. “Just think how well OKC would do if we dumped our conservative leadership” is the common theme. No, I don’t like Fallen at all. But I don’t want a Cuomo either.

There is a reason why Oklahoma City is doing well, it’s not an accident. I cringed when I saw the comment about the minimum wage ban hurting OKC’s growth. Is that what kind of worker we want to attract? Just remember the progressive/liberal paradise of California and NY. Where they have all the natural advantages of resources and population. One of them is going broke and both have people leaving in droves.

Oklahoma needs to be more progressive in certain areas. It however does not need a big leap, just a few small steps.

This thread is a microcosm of why I never come here anymore.

A lot of people in this thread boast about the great success that OKC is having in population growth in spite of having Conservative leaders. “Just think how well OKC would do if we dumped our conservative leadership” is the common theme. No, I don’t like Fallen at all. But I don’t want a Cuomo either.

There is a reason why Oklahoma City is doing well, it’s not an accident. I cringed when I saw the comment about the minimum wage ban hurting OKC’s growth. Is that what kind of worker we want to attract? Just remember the progressive/liberal paradise of California and NY. Where they have all the natural advantages of resources and population. One of them is going broke and both have people leaving in droves.

Oklahoma needs to be more progressive in certain areas. It however does not need a big leap, just a few small steps.

It's a bit ironic that you "never come here anymore" because of certain posts you've read but you certainly took the time to post your own political thoughts in a thread about population growth in OKC while bemoaning others who did the same.

Ahh yes, we should strive to be more like the conservative utopias of Mississippi, Arkansas, West Virginia.

This thread is a microcosm of why I never come here anymore.

A lot of people in this thread boast about the great success that OKC is having in population growth in spite of having Conservative leaders. “Just think how well OKC would do if we dumped our conservative leadership” is the common theme. No, I don’t like Fallen at all. But I don’t want a Cuomo either.

There is a reason why Oklahoma City is doing well, it’s not an accident. I cringed when I saw the comment about the minimum wage ban hurting OKC’s growth. Is that what kind of worker we want to attract? Just remember the progressive/liberal paradise of California and NY. Where they have all the natural advantages of resources and population. One of them is going broke and both have people leaving in droves.

Oklahoma needs to be more progressive in certain areas. It however does not need a big leap, just a few small steps.

California now has a budget surplus. Amazing what happens when the economy rebounds. The economy in the Bay Area is white hot right now, so I'm not sure where you're coming from.

Ahh yes, we should strive to be more like the conservative utopias of Mississippi, Arkansas, West Virginia.

Obviously California and New York doesn't have near the advantages that Mississippi, Arkansas, and West Virginia has when it comes to natural resources, climate or geography.

/Sarcasm off.

California now has a budget surplus. Amazing what happens when the economy rebounds. The economy in the Bay Area is white hot right now, so I'm not sure where you're coming from.

Not so much...


Similarly, Brown is using cash-based budgeting to underreport the cost of an employee benefit — retiree health care — by $3 billion. The governor could have chosen to report the expense at its full size, but to do that under cash-based budgeting, he would have had to actually contribute $3 billion in cash to a retiree health-care trust fund.

That’s exactly what governors are supposed to do. Retiree health-care expenses, like pensions, are supposed to be pre-funded in order to protect future generations from having to pick up an earlier generation’s costs. But Brown chose not to do so, making his budget look rosier than it is. This shortchanges future generations, which will have less money for their own services because they will have to pay off the skipped costs.

Businesses aren’t permitted to use cash-based budgeting. Instead, they must accrue expenses whether paid or not. During Brown’s current term in office, his budgets will ignore more than $12 billion in retiree health-care costs. …

Brown’s budget this year also ignores more than $3 billion in required contributions to the state teacher pension fund. It’s the largest “skipped” pension contribution in the country and continues a pattern that has led the fund to build up an $80 billion deficit accruing zero-coupon interest at 7.5 percent a year.


California budget ?surplus?? ?Nope, not so much. « Hot Air (http://hotair.com/archives/2014/04/14/california-budget-surplus-nope-not-so-much/)

Not so much...




California budget ?surplus?? ?Nope, not so much. « Hot Air (http://hotair.com/archives/2014/04/14/california-budget-surplus-nope-not-so-much/)

Not sure what hot air is, but your characterization of California as a debt-laden hellhole with declining economic prospects is off base. For the record, I'm glad to see OKC progressing, and I see pragmatism and centrism as why we are doing well -- not rigid conservative doctrine. Our unity working together is producing a splendid economy and a great place to live. All people have played a role. Our citizens have bought in.

As for the state, OKC is pulling it along, and without our city's dramatic reinvention, our state's economic prospects would be decidedly worse.

I've noticed that just where I live there are three separate Iowans.

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I would say new significant announcements are dormant. Enough was announced in 2013 that will keep things under construction for quite some time. I do wonder if there is another big wave of announcements coming. Steve hinted as such as Christmastime but it never materialized.
Steve continually hints at many things that never materialize. New towers, enterntainment venue that will make Dallas and KC jealous, etc. I think he does it to continue to be the center of attention.

Steve continually hints at many things that never materialize. New towers, enterntainment venue that will make Dallas and KC jealous, etc. I think he does it to continue to be the center of attention.

Or... not all proposed/planned developments come to fruition. Steve is a great source of information and to knock him when a development falters that we wouldn't of even known about otherwise seems shortsighted.

Steve and Pete are two of the biggest reasons I have continued to follow OKC's development since moving out of the city 3 years ago. They both make it so easy to follow new developments/projects. I haven't been able to find 1/10th of such information in either of the two cities I have lived in since. It's never wise to bite the hand that feeds you...

I would imagine probably more developments that are proposed/planned actually end up falling through than getting built. A lot of developers dream big and want to do very exciting things but when it comes to getting financing for it it doesn't quite work out. It either has to be scaled way back or it ends up not happening at all.

Or... not all proposed/planned developments come to fruition. Steve is a great source of information and to knock him when a development falters that we wouldn't of even known about otherwise seems shortsighted.

Steve and Pete are two of the biggest reasons I have continued to follow OKC's development since moving out of the city 3 years ago. They both make it so easy to follow new developments/projects. I haven't been able to find 1/10th of such information in either of the two cities I have lived in since. It's never wise to bite the hand that feeds you...
Oh, I agree 100%. I'm sure a small percentage of what is talked about or proposed, ever happen. I find Pete to be an incredible source for OKC info. Steve, not so much anymore.

I've noticed that just where I live there are three separate Iowans.

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Are they registered?

Steve, not so much anymore.

I'm not sure what to say to this. Did you read his recent blog post on the Lumber Yard site? How many reporters dig that deep and share everything they know. Steve is a great source of OKC information. I'm not sure how that could be up for debate.

Oh, I agree 100%. I'm sure a small percentage of what is talked about or proposed, ever happen. I find Pete to be an incredible source for OKC info. Steve, not so much anymore.I really appreciate what Steve does and he is a great asset to OKC which a bunch of other cities lack. I look over news in Dallas all the time and have yet to see any reporter in a city of 7 million people devoted as Steve Lackmeyer here in OKC. While I have disagreed with him in the past, I really respect him and what he does.

Pete is great as well. We are so lucky to have people like Pete and Steve caring so much about OKC. I also appreciate ton of other posters such as Spartan and JTF who don't even live here, but still care about their city and participate in this forum devoting their time to make this city better. There are so many people on this site that provide very valuable information about progress and do things like Urban Pioneer starting the FBB putting in valuable time for others. When I go around and tell people things like what's about to be built, I've had some people ask me how I know information like this and if I have insider sources and I say "nope, it all comes from OKCTalk".

Steve and Pete play two different roles but both obviously care about the city or they wouldn't be doing what they do.

The states housing market is another story. It seems OKC is doing the best in the state.

Neighboring states outpace Oklahoma home price appreciation | News OK (http://newsok.com/neighboring-states-outpace-oklahoma-home-price-appreciation/article/4869311)

Meant to respond to this earlier. I wouldn't read too much into this as OK never fell like most markets so it doesn't have much to climb. And OK in general has always been not too hot not too cold, although a real estate professional can probably explain more on that than I can.

Meant to respond to this earlier. I wouldn't read too much into this as OK never fell like most markets so it doesn't have much to climb. And OK in general has always been not too hot not too cold, although a real estate professional can probably explain more on that than I can.

My mother is a vice-president of a mortgage company that us fairly prominent on the north side of the city. She says housing prices never really dropped off during the recession. Stayed pretty level, with possibly a minor drop. Housing costs have been climbing at a steady, not alarming, rate. The fact that our housing prices are on oar with the nation, where the recession was bad, says just how strong our market is here. She is crazy busy and. Has been for several years. She'd consider this a housing boom, but she is just one company. It's healthy and booming, on most accounts.

I came from Canton, Ohio to live in OKC last September. The better economy, shorter and less severe winters, and being able to pursue my passion of storm chasing are all reasons for my move. Not to mention, I want to live in a city that has a bright and prosperous future to it. Oklahoma City is that. I'm hoping that we can get some more big projects confirmed in the coming years. But at the same time, I just like not seeing what I saw in Canton, Ohio; a dead downtown, burnt out and abandoned buildings, a list a thousands of abandoned houses that needed to be tore down, and people getting excited about the next gas station or drug store.

I came from Canton, Ohio to live in OKC last September. The better economy, shorter and less severe winters, and being able to pursue my passion of storm chasing are all reasons for my move. Not to mention, I want to live in a city that has a bright and prosperous future to it. Oklahoma City is that. I'm hoping that we can get some more big projects confirmed in the coming years. But at the same time, I just like not seeing what I saw in Canton, Ohio; a dead downtown, burnt out and abandoned buildings, a list a thousands of abandoned houses that needed to be tore down, and people getting excited about the next gas station or drug store.

Welcome Chris !

Are they registered?

Lol, I didn't interview them ;-)

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