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Bellaboo
01-16-2022, 11:26 PM
Did they add a bunch of dispenseries ?

Laramie
01-17-2022, 07:15 AM
You see those dispensaries throughout the area, it's better than a bunch of boarded up vacant shops and store fronts.

Oklahoma Medical Marijuana Authority is responsible for licensing, regulating, and administering the program as authorized by state law operating under the umbrella of the Oklahoma State Department of Health.

Good for our economy, Oklahoma's dispensaries collected $385 million in sales through June 2020. Dispensaries in 2019 brought in $345 million in medical cannabis revenue to the state coffers. Retailers also generated $71.6 million in state and local taxes last year, $41 million more than was collected in 2019.

According to ZipRecruiter the majority of salaries within the Dispensary jobs category currently range between $26,729 (25th percentile) to $49,312 (75th percentile) with top earners (90th percentile) making $69,590 annually in Oklahoma.

Despite its legality in Oklahoma, medical marijuana is mostly a cash-based industry where few Oklahoma banks participate. The U.S. Congress and Oklahoma Legislatures have failed to pass the SAFE banking act despite bi-partisan support.

Bellaboo
01-17-2022, 08:54 AM
I was making a joke. Do you know that the tax code at the OTC for medical marijuana is - MMJ

gopokes88
01-17-2022, 10:18 AM
Cool little article about Arcadia's pop growth

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/business/2022/01/16/tiny-aging-arcadia-near-okc-booming-new-homes-and-newcomers/8799716002/

Plutonic Panda
01-17-2022, 11:41 AM
Good article. Arcadia will grow into a suburb soon. Needs more businesses and things to do.

soonerguru
01-19-2022, 11:34 PM
So OKC proper is growing by approximately 40,000 a year right now? That means if growth keeps up OKC will have 200,000 more residents in five years? 400,000 more residents in 10 years? That's fairly insane.

If it keeps up OKC proper will be closing in on a million residents by 2026. Crazy.

Plutonic Panda
01-20-2022, 12:39 AM
Judging purely by the amount of traffic would suggest it. Traffic congestion is really starting to become prevalent in OKC.

Laramie
01-20-2022, 04:40 AM
So OKC proper is growing by approximately 40,000 a year right now? That means if growth keeps up OKC will have 200,000 more residents in five years? 400,000 more residents in 10 years? That's fairly insane.

If it keeps up OKC proper will be closing in on a million residents by 2026. Crazy.

Where did you get those figures...

Figures support that OKC proper's growth is more like 10,106 a year:


681,054 - 579,999 = 101,055/10 years = 10,106

If OKC keeps up that pace we'll add another 100,000+ residence a year (13.8%). OKC proper could reach 782,109 in 2030.

The Fastest Growing City In Each State: https://247wallst.com/special-report/2021/07/22/the-fastest-growing-city-in-each-state-5/9/

Jeepnokc
01-20-2022, 07:04 AM
So OKC proper is growing by approximately 40,000 a year right now? That means if growth keeps up OKC will have 200,000 more residents in five years? 400,000 more residents in 10 years? That's fairly insane.

If it keeps up OKC proper will be closing in on a million residents by 2026. Crazy.

Is there any data on population growth in OKC by area of city? Curious which areas are growing and also whether it is the rural areas versus other areas. I know my area SW OKC has really seen a big boom of new neighborhoods last ten years as I am sure the area up north have done the same. Downtown has seen growth also so be curious to see numbers.

LocoAko
01-20-2022, 08:41 AM
Is there any data on population growth in OKC by area of city? Curious which areas are growing and also whether it is the rural areas versus other areas. I know my area SW OKC has really seen a big boom of new neighborhoods last ten years as I am sure the area up north have done the same. Downtown has seen growth also so be curious to see numbers.

Here is the best I could do using the data from https://data.oklahoman.com/census/total-population/total-population-change/oklahoma-county-oklahoma/050-40109/. They also have Total Housing Units change, but it follows the general patterns the same way. Clearly (and unsurprisingly) the growth is on the outer ring of the city in the suburban southside, Edmond/Deer Creek, and Yukon regions.

The bigger surprise to me has been the relative decrease in population in the central part of the city, which doesn't jive with my notion of people enthusiastically moving back into the core over the past decade. But it was pointed out to me that it could also reflect demographic change (i.e., childless couples increasingly populating the core, possibly having fewer children, etc, or even still continued so-called white flight). More likely, many parts of the core are already quite built up and occupied as well, so perhaps these maps are just a natural result of there not being able to be noteworthy growth in population short of dramatic increases in housing density, etc. which we're not seeing on any large scale....

https://i.imgur.com/Ox6ywHb.png
https://i.imgur.com/CHn2Fi2.png
https://i.imgur.com/Zhqr1nJ.png

LocoAko
01-20-2022, 09:04 AM
For a more summary-level view, here is the current population of each city council ward from this week's City Council meeting. When these wards were created in 2010 the approximate balance-level population of each ward was ~72,500 people. So, it's easy to see where the growth has been on the ward level: the west side.

https://i.imgur.com/G63ohNG.png

Jeepnokc
01-20-2022, 09:38 AM
Thanks for data LocoAko. It is as I suspected but also surprised at the downtown numbers as I expected them to be higher. Not surprised with SW OKC. When we moved out here (SW 104/ MacArthur area) 12 years ago....it was fairly sparse on housing and now there are neighborhoods everywhere and also more sense. When we moved, they were developing 5 acre lots and now everything is 1/2 to one acre lots

OKProf
01-20-2022, 09:50 AM
The bigger surprise to me has been the relative decrease in population in the central part of the city, which doesn't jive with my notion of people enthusiastically moving back into the core over the past decade. But it was pointed out to me that it could also reflect demographic change (i.e., childless couples increasingly populating the core, possibly having fewer children, etc, or even still continued so-called white flight). More likely, many parts of the core are already quite built up and occupied as well, so perhaps these maps are just a natural result of there not being able to be noteworthy growth in population short of dramatic increases in housing density, etc. which we're not seeing on any large scale....


The conclusion that there is a relative decrease in the central part of the city is misleading. Yes there are many areas with negative growth, but if you click on the link and zoom in on the some of the tracts, you'll actually see huge growth in a few areas, such as midtown, deep deuce, bricktown, and parts of downtown. Midtown, for example, increased by 259%!! Whereas the areas with low growth only decreased by a few percent. So it seems that the urban core growth is good, just concentrated.

These statistics match the eye test. Where do observe all the new housing, particularly apartment complexes? It's in midtown, deep deuce, etc.

oklip955
01-20-2022, 11:12 AM
Thanks for posting all the data. I have been wondering about northwest side growth. I am talking about north of Memorial and west of Edmond city limit. Just driving up Portland/May ave, and those areas to the west to County Line rd seem to be sprouting up lots and lots of housing developments in the last few years.Anyone have any idea of the population in this area. I understand that some of this is in Okc proper and some in the Deer Creek area. It would be interesting to just see the actual population totals. I have not spent much time in the southwest areas to appreciate the growth. Again thanks for the data posted.

oklip955
01-20-2022, 11:13 AM
Also give about 2 or 3 more years and the area east of I35 in Edmond will have racked up some big growth number too. I moved out here 38 yrs ago to be in the country, no the city has moved to me. Ugh

Ross MacLochness
01-20-2022, 01:38 PM
Time to support walkability, density and public transit!

KayneMo
01-20-2022, 03:19 PM
Thanks for posting all the data. I have been wondering about northwest side growth. I am talking about north of Memorial and west of Edmond city limit. Just driving up Portland/May ave, and those areas to the west to County Line rd seem to be sprouting up lots and lots of housing developments in the last few years.Anyone have any idea of the population in this area. I understand that some of this is in Okc proper and some in the Deer Creek area. It would be interesting to just see the actual population totals. I have not spent much time in the southwest areas to appreciate the growth. Again thanks for the data posted.

The area bounded by Waterloo, Penn, Memorial, and Sara had 49,066 people at the 2020 Census.

oklip955
01-20-2022, 03:58 PM
The area bounded by Waterloo, Penn, Memorial, and Sara had 49,066 people at the 2020 Census.
In an other year or two it will be interesting to see how much that area has increase. I bet big numbers based on all the new housing developments and some appartments.

KayneMo
01-20-2022, 04:18 PM
The area bounded by Waterloo, Penn, Memorial, and Sara had 49,066 people at the 2020 Census.


In an other year or two it will be interesting to see how much that area has increase. I bet big numbers based on all the new housing developments and some appartments.

In 2010, the same area had a population of 21,956. That's a 123.5% increase in 10 years.

KHutch66
01-20-2022, 08:34 PM
I am really interested to see how west Norman and Newcastle growth continues. I have been wondering why there has not really ever been any sort of traction for a bridge over the Canadian river making a more direct connection for the two. There is a large flood plain between these two areas but I wouldn't think that's solely enough for this not be viable.

Plutonic Panda
01-20-2022, 11:45 PM
^^^ it would be nice if ODOT would get off their ass and build a new freeway along the river connecting I-35 to I-44.

Jeepnokc
01-20-2022, 11:47 PM
^^^ it would be nice if ODOT would get off their ass and build a new freeway along the river connecting I-35 to I-44.

Highway 9 works pretty well. We have never had an issue with that stretch.

Plutonic Panda
01-20-2022, 11:52 PM
Highway 9 works pretty well. We have never had an issue with that stretch.
I was thinking north of the river. But that ship might have sailed with all the recent developments. I believe Highway 9 will be upgraded to a tolled freeway and connected at Kilpatrick. At least that’s what the latest news seems to suggest.

KHutch66
01-21-2022, 12:14 AM
Highway 9 works pretty well. We have never had an issue with that stretch.
I live on Highway 9 West...Right now it seems to be fine and not too busy. I just wonder how long it will be before the growth of Newcastle and Blanchard both require this extra extension into Norman.

HOT ROD
01-23-2022, 09:57 PM
I would also contend that these charts are relative growth. As in, downtown already has a high density of people so it will take a HUGE number of apartment complexes to make a relative increase big enough to become green on these charts. Whereas, the rural parts of the county can add 10 homes and be quite green.

I'm exaggerating but you get the idea that this is all relative and in OKC it's difficult to get trends given that the city isn't divided/segregated like some others - you have dense urban right next to fields and ghetto so while the dense urban downtown areas are growing rapidly as we all know, if you take the whole area there's not much statistically to get excited about. This is why we need the focus downtown to be on high rise residential to really start to see the needle change AND for more of the core outside of downtown to densify - which is happening but at a much slower pace compared to the 1-mile radius from the cbd.

LocoAko
01-24-2022, 07:17 AM
I would also contend that these charts are relative growth. As in, downtown already has a high density of people so it will take a HUGE number of apartment complexes to make a relative increase big enough to become green on these charts. Whereas, the rural parts of the county can add 10 homes and be quite green.

I'm exaggerating but you get the idea that this is all relative and in OKC it's difficult to get trends given that the city isn't divided/segregated like some others - you have dense urban right next to fields and ghetto so while the dense urban downtown areas are growing rapidly as we all know, if you take the whole area there's not much statistically to get excited about. This is why we need the focus downtown to be on high rise residential to really start to see the needle change AND for more of the core outside of downtown to densify - which is happening but at a much slower pace compared to the 1-mile radius from the cbd.

Of course, and I tried to reflect that in my description of the plots. When your denominator is close to zero it's not hard to get some explosive growth rates :wink:

HOT ROD
01-27-2022, 08:32 PM
:)

Laramie
01-27-2022, 08:51 PM
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41 Oklahoma City, OK MSA 1,425,695 1,252,987 (172,708) +13.78%
22 Oklahoma City, OK City 681,054 579,999 (101,055) +17.42%
. . . 101.055 of 172,708

Nice when the bulk of your MSA population growth numbers are inside the city limits.

LocoAko
01-28-2022, 09:18 AM
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41 Oklahoma City, OK MSA 1,425,695 1,252,987 (172,708) +13.78%
22 Oklahoma City, OK City 681,054 579,999 (101,055) +17.42%
. . . 101.055 of 172,708

Nice when the bulk of your MSA population growth numbers are inside the city limits.

I mean, sure, but I don't think it means a whole lot when it is due almost solely to the absurd annexation spree OKC went on decades ago. In almost any other city most of the growth we observed would not be in the anchor city but in suburban towns surrounding it, and for many intents and purposes (sales tax, etc. aside), that's still the case here (i.e., much of the growth in "OKC" is culturally and socially tied to Yukon, Mustang, and Edmond/Deer Creek). As much as I enjoy seeing OKC rise up on the charts, the MSA numbers are probably a much fairer representation of growth and competitiveness, despite the promotion by many otherwise. Put another way, the growth is occurring where the empty land is, but I don't think many of those people are consciously choosing to live in OKC city limits vs. Mustang/Yukon/etc where their kids go to school, etc. It just is what it is.

HOT ROD
01-29-2022, 02:16 AM
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41 Oklahoma City, OK MSA 1,425,695 1,252,987 (172,708) +13.78%
22 Oklahoma City, OK City 681,054 579,999 (101,055) +17.42%
. . . 101.055 of 172,708

Nice when the bulk of your MSA population growth numbers are inside the city limits.

actually it means that the metro area isn't as booming as the city, signficant part of the growth of OKC came from the metro area while there was a marginal loss in growth overall. Proper growth for the region would have shown 172K for the city and at least 172K for the metro (but typically more since most city's suburbs also grow).

We need to turn this around. We don't need the city to boom while the metro area stalls, we need the suburbs to grow too or at the very least don't decline. Cities are defined and ranked by metro area (not municipal boundary) so while things look great for the city it doesn't shine as much for Oklahoma City when compared to other major cities.

unfundedrick
01-29-2022, 09:49 PM
actually it means that the metro area isn't as booming as the city, signficant part of the growth of OKC came from the metro area while there was a marginal loss in growth overall. Proper growth for the region would have shown 172K for the city and at least 172K for the metro (but typically more since most city's suburbs also grow).

We need to turn this around. We don't need the city to boom while the metro area stalls, we need the suburbs to grow too or at the very least don't decline. Cities are defined and ranked by metro area (not municipal boundary) so while things look great for the city it doesn't shine as much for Oklahoma City when compared to other major cities.

I understand what you're saying but keep in mind that a number of metro cities like Mustang, The Villlage, Bethany, Warr Acres, and Del City have very little land left to add population. Most other major cities are so surrounded by suburbs that most of the growth goes to those suburbs. That's why Oklahoma City is moving up in the ranking of city population faster than it is in metro population.

Teo9969
01-30-2022, 09:22 AM
actually it means that the metro area isn't as booming as the city, signficant part of the growth of OKC came from the metro area while there was a marginal loss in growth overall. Proper growth for the region would have shown 172K for the city and at least 172K for the metro (but typically more since most city's suburbs also grow).

We need to turn this around. We don't need the city to boom while the metro area stalls, we need the suburbs to grow too or at the very least don't decline. Cities are defined and ranked by metro area (not municipal boundary) so while things look great for the city it doesn't shine as much for Oklahoma City when compared to other major cities.

LokoAcko's post above this addresses exactly what you're saying though.

If all development West of County Line and North of 150th were part of other municipalities, then OKC proper's raw number count would have probably dropped 10,000 to 20,000 basically making growth in the city proper and growth in the burbs roughly equivalent.

I do suppose the largest congregation of undocumented and uncounted immigrants are probably in OKC proper, but that's probably true in most MSAs since the anchor city proper is rarely the most affluent part of a given MSA.

At any rate +13% is still growing quicker than most MSAs and it does look like we're set for an even better decade, especially if oil prices can see any multi-year sustained price over $80. If that combines with a few more 2,500+ name employers being headquartered (whether relocated or homegrown) over the next decade and I think we'll be able to see an OKC that has Top 5 US growth potential.

Bellaboo
01-30-2022, 12:58 PM
I would guess 95 percent of all development in Eastern Canadian County is in Oklahoma City Limits. Yukon and Mustang are both pretty much landlocked. There are more people living in the 73099 Zip Code in OKC than Yukon and Mustang combined. I'm sure Mustang has a different zip code though. That would be my guess and I've lived in Yukon since 1963. By far the majority of the new housing developments are not in Mustang or Yukon.

chssooner
01-30-2022, 01:24 PM
OKC is an outlier, since they annex so much area. Hard for suburbs to grow if OKC keeps annexing growing areas.

Laramie
01-30-2022, 01:32 PM
OKC is an outlier, since they annex so much area. Hard for suburbs to grow if OKC keeps annexing growing areas.


OKC probably looks upon this as an investment in overall future growth.

April in the Plaza
01-30-2022, 03:50 PM
I understand what you're saying but keep in mind that a number of metro cities like Mustang, The Villlage, Bethany, Warr Acres, and Del City have very little land left to add population. Most other major cities are so surrounded by suburbs that most of the growth goes to those suburbs. That's why Oklahoma City is moving up in the ranking of city population faster than it is in metro population.

very well said, UR. also, much of the land that is left in OKC Proper is often (a) expensive or (b) covered with aging properties that need to be scraped or meticulously restored. can't blame the builders for picking the low-hanging fruit in the annexed areas.

Bunty
03-25-2022, 04:40 AM
According to figures released by the census on Thursday, Oklahoma County grew 797,296 to 798,575 from July 1, 2020 to July 1, 2021.

Tulsa County grew faster from 670,157 to 672,858.

BG918
03-29-2022, 09:46 AM
Map of county growth rates from 2020-21

https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2022/comm/where-counties-are-growing/_jcr_content/root/responsivegrid/embeddableimage1119.coreimg.jpeg/1648061822530/where-counties-are-growing.jpeg

David
03-29-2022, 10:25 AM
Count me intensely curious as to why Idaho. Western Montana too, I suppose.

stlokc
03-29-2022, 10:38 AM
Boise, Idaho has become a relocation spot of choice for people leaving Southern California. Much less expensive, fewer living challenges, close to natural beauty. In this WFH era, places like Boise are going to be winners.

It's funny, when I was growing up I had a friend who moved to OKC from Boise. He took me back there once to visit. This was the 1980s. It felt very much like a small town. Now it's metro is 750,000.

FighttheGoodFight
03-29-2022, 11:02 AM
West Oklahoma took a hit.

Bill Robertson
03-29-2022, 11:16 AM
Count me intensely curious as to why Idaho. Western Montana too, I suppose.
I know of 2 families that have moved to Idaho in the past year. Both moved because they were probably working from home permanently now and they found Idaho to be a cheap and beautiful place.

jedicurt
03-29-2022, 11:18 AM
I know of 2 families that have moved to Idaho in the past year. Both moved because they were probably working from home permanently now and they found Idaho to be a cheap and beautiful place.

this right here. i also know of a family that moved because they found out how much cheaper it is to live than DFW where they were before, and both are now full time remote work.

Pete
03-29-2022, 11:19 AM
I know a bunch of people who have retired to Montana and Idaho.

It's beautiful in that area but the winters are just brutal.

Pete
03-29-2022, 11:22 AM
West Oklahoma took a hit.

Oilfield slump.

Numbers should start to rebound when rig counts go up, otherwise there is very little to draw people to those areas. Eastern OK draws much more of the retirement crowd, similar to Arkansas.

BG918
04-04-2022, 12:12 AM
Oilfield slump.

Numbers should start to rebound when rig counts go up, otherwise there is very little to draw people to those areas. Eastern OK draws much more of the retirement crowd, similar to Arkansas.

The Ozarks in general seem that like they had positive growth which could be continued movement from retirees as well as remote workers. The far NW Arkansas counties have continuously had high growth rates for years.

I was surprised to see a negative for Davidson County (Nashville) though the suburban counties all had high growth rates. I feel like when I hear someone is moving to Nashville it’s actually Franklin or somewhere else in the Nashville metro.

Bunty
04-04-2022, 12:47 PM
Boise, Idaho has become a relocation spot of choice for people leaving Southern California. Much less expensive, fewer living challenges, close to natural beauty. In this WFH era, places like Boise are going to be winners.

It's funny, when I was growing up I had a friend who moved to OKC from Boise. He took me back there once to visit. This was the 1980s. It felt very much like a small town. Now it's metro is 750,000.

For instance, cost of living index in San Francisco is 205. In Boise it's 99. In Oklahoma City 88.

ComeOnBenjals!
04-04-2022, 12:56 PM
Great to see OKC's growth, very important for the entire state.

Seem to be some indicators that Tulsa's MSA growth is starting to pick up a bit.

"Since the census was taken in April 2020 it seems growth has only picked up. 2020 had 20% more new home starts than 2019 and 2021 was 15% higher than 2020. The city of Tulsa has fewer than 300 available houses for sale out of 164,000 total housing units." - from swake on TulsaNow

https://tulsaworld.com/business/local/home-construction-in-tulsa-area-soars-in-2020-with-best-year-in-more-than-a/article_9b34924a-5f57-11eb-a3d0-87aeb53afb5e.html

-Tulsa Metro population increased by 7400 from July 1,2020 to July 1, 2021.
-.7% gain in overall population, brought total metro pop to 1,023,988
-Tulsa County increased by 2700, from 670,157 to 672,858 during that same time.
-Of that 2700, 965 came from other states.

-The demand for downtown housing has seemingly flown past supply. Several larger projects with housing about to start, but Tulsa could use a couple more 10-12 story residential buildings in the central core.

Anonymous.
04-04-2022, 03:39 PM
The Texas population explosion is honestly insane. That map shows just how crazy the area from Dallas to Ardmore is. Hopeful that will cause spillage into OKC.

David
04-04-2022, 03:52 PM
Map of county growth rates from 2020-21

https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2022/comm/where-counties-are-growing/_jcr_content/root/responsivegrid/embeddableimage1119.coreimg.jpeg/1648061822530/where-counties-are-growing.jpeg

The eastern Texas growth just in general is quite impressive. The DFW, Houston, and Austin/San Antonio triangle is very apparent.

Triggerman
04-08-2022, 11:10 AM
The eastern Texas growth just in general is quite impressive. The DFW, Houston, and Austin/San Antonio triangle is very apparent.

All these chatter about Texas population growth made me Google infos and found out that YOY increase from 2020-2021, four of the top 10 metros in the US with the most numerical growth are in Texas:

Metro; 2021 pop; increase

1.Dallas-Forth Worth-Arlington 7,759,615 +97,290
3.Houston-Woodlands-Galveston 7,206,841 +69,064
4.Austin-Round Rock-Georgetown 2,352,426 +53,301
8.San Antonio-New Braunfels 2,601,788 +35,105

SEMIweather
04-09-2022, 10:05 AM
All these chatter about Texas population growth made me Google infos and found out that YOY increase from 2020-2021, four of the top 10 metros in the US with the most numerical growth are in Texas:

Metro; 2021 pop; increase

1.Dallas-Forth Worth-Arlington 7,759,615 +97,290
3.Houston-Woodlands-Galveston 7,206,841 +69,064
4.Austin-Round Rock-Georgetown 2,352,426 +53,301
8.San Antonio-New Braunfels 2,601,788 +35,105

Have to think San Antonio is going to heat up even more in the next few years with Austin getting to be as expensive as it is. Also feels like that corridor should be a great candidate for some high-speed rail.

BG918
04-09-2022, 10:57 PM
Have to think San Antonio is going to heat up even more in the next few years with Austin getting to be as expensive as it is. Also feels like that corridor should be a great candidate for some high-speed rail.

I’ve long thought that San Antonio is a sleeper city with a ton of potential. It appears it is starting to finally really boom

oklip955
04-10-2022, 02:54 PM
West Oklahoma took a hit.

And other rural areas continue to empty out. What is the answer for these areas? Small towns continue to drop population. Rural hospitals continue to struggle. There needs to be a plan of some kind for rural areas. Maybe even some of the lower population counties need to consolidate? Some areas had lots of some farms that are and were not viable. ARe larger ones viable? I think something needs to be done to address rural issues. my 3 cents. Sorry inflation.

Bunty
04-10-2022, 03:22 PM
And other rural areas continue to empty out. What is the answer for these areas? Small towns continue to drop population. Rural hospitals continue to struggle. There needs to be a plan of some kind for rural areas. Maybe even some of the lower population counties need to consolidate? Some areas had lots of some farms that are and were not viable. ARe larger ones viable? I think something needs to be done to address rural issues. my 3 cents. Sorry inflation.

Rural western Oklahoma towns are too slow to take advantage of what few opportunities are available to them. I heard that Elk City, even though it's one of the biggest towns in western Oklahoma, still doesn't have a beer brewery. Clinton isn't expected to get its first one until this fall. There doesn't seem to be a practical solution to draw people there. Even towns along I-40 can hardly hold their own. Rural counties are too resistant in keeping up with changes urban areas want to take advantage of. Most rural counties in western Oklahoma rejected legalizing medical marijuana and didn't like being forced to go along with it.

I don't see consolidation helping other than as a means to better cope with population declines.

There could be one solution that probably can't hurt. Stillwater offers $5000 plus free coffee for a year for moving there as a remote worker who is also willing to buy a home. Maybe other rural towns need to try doing the same.

On the map it's interesting that western TX looks like western Oklahoma.

Laramie
04-10-2022, 03:28 PM
Currently our population growth in the Oklahoma City area is manageable.

From 2010-2020, five counties from the Greater Oklahoma City Region were among the top six fastest-growing counties in Oklahoma:
Canadian, Logan, McClain, Cleveland, and Oklahoma Counties.

Road upgrades & Interstate expansion-upgrades will be key to Oklahoma sustained growth.


22. Oklahoma City - 681,054 - 579,999 (2020 - 2010 - 10 year increase) 101,055
42. Oklahoma City MSA - 1,425,695 - 1,252,987 (2020 - 2010 - 10 year increase) 172,708
28. State of Oklahoma - 3,959,353 - 3,751,351 (2020 - 2010) - 10 year increase) 208,002


Oklahoma City MSA Population accounted for 83 % of Oklahoma population growth

What I've observed since the 2020 census adjustment is more out-of-state license plates throughout the city. Difficult to determine if this is attributed to tourists, relocations or people renewing their plates in Texas because it is cheaper; is there anyway the state can track this because the same motorists would need to renew their state insurance as well.

Tulsa Outlook: With a $560 million Electric Vehicle Plant in Pryor (2024), and the possibility of a Auto Panasonic Battery Plant in Tulsa expect a population increase for Tulsa in the next 2030 census. The State has invested $15 million in incentives to lure Canoo EV Plant. If Tulsa is awarded the battery plant, look for a number of satellite facilities to surround these plants.


Japanese electronics company Panasonic wants to buy land in Kansas or Oklahoma to build a multibillion-dollar factory to supply Tesla with lithium-ion batteries, according to reporting from Japan public broadcaster NHK.[

The states are being considered, according to the report, because they are close to Texas, where Tesla is preparing a new electric vehicle plant.

A true 'win' for Oklahoma.

dcsooner
04-10-2022, 08:05 PM
Oklahoma has no jobs in rural areas to sustain the populations, This is counter to small towns I have experienced in other states e.g Indiana, Kentucky, NC, SC. There are large manufacturing or other employers that make their smaller cities vibrant.
if Lawton (my home town) ever loses Ft. Sill it will literally shrink by 30--40%.

Bunty
04-10-2022, 08:14 PM
Oklahoma has no jobs in rural areas to sustain the populations, This is counter to small towns I have experienced in other states e.g Indiana, Kentucky, NC, SC. There are large manufacturing or other employers that make their smaller cities vibrant.
if Lawton (my home town) ever loses Ft. Sill it will literally shrink by 30--40%.

Yeah, if assuming those manufacturing plants are still open. Mercury Marine in Stillwater that once employed up to 1,200 closed permanently in 2011.

dcsooner
04-10-2022, 08:28 PM
https://www.chamberofcommerce.org/best-small-cities-for-business/

Jersey Boss
04-10-2022, 08:54 PM
Yeah, if assuming those manufacturing plants are still open. Mercury Marine in Stillwater that once employed up to 1,200 closed permanently in 2011.

As I recall Mercury Marine left "right to work" Oklahoma and consolidated at the unionized facility in Wisconsin.