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jn1780
10-19-2011, 07:38 PM
Incorrect!

There is nothing wrong with dyeing his hair with safe coloring.

He is more than a companion. He is my son. Don't ever insult him like that.

You mean don't insult me, right? Taz doesn't know the difference.

Thunder
10-19-2011, 07:38 PM
I'd like to meet with FritterGirl on a day she bring out her doggy there and I'll bring Taz. I'd trust her doggy not to attack Taz the Poodle.

Thunder
10-19-2011, 07:39 PM
You mean don't insult me, right? Taz doesn't know the difference.

No, not you. I'm talking about Taz. He's very smart and special. Never judge a Poodle by their appearance.

jn1780
10-19-2011, 07:41 PM
No, not you. I'm talking about Taz. He's very smart and special. Never judge a Poodle by their appearance.

"me" as in you. You find that insulting not Taz.

Roadhawg
10-19-2011, 08:45 PM
Not sure if I should

1. Never look at this thread again
2. poke my eyeballs out
3. turn off the computer for a year or two
4. shoot myself
5. meet Taz down at the dog park with my Pit
6. all of the above

kevinpate
10-19-2011, 09:10 PM
on the other paw, some folk pay cover charges or cable channel fees for comedy of this caliber. just another day at bebe's improv.

Roadhawg
10-20-2011, 08:23 AM
on the other paw, some folk pay cover charges or cable channel fees for comedy of this caliber. just another day at bebe's improv.

a fool and his money are soon parted

FritterGirl
10-20-2011, 10:45 AM
Thunder,

You may want to look into the groomer Aunt Pink's at 1326 W. Britton Road. My mom takes her two Havanese there. Their "hair" is similar to a poodle's hair is that it is very fine and easily matted. They understand this kind of dog (Havanese are a cross between Maltese and Bichon Frise, so they have poodle in them). There are also other professional groomers in the Moore / South OKC area you may look into. I don't know of any in Midwest City.

As for the Gardens, I'll reply to your two questions:

Can you take Taz into the Crystal Bridge in a stroller? The short answer is no. Again, like any other tourist facility, as Taz is not a certified aid animal, he is NOT allowed inside the Crystal Bridge, even in a "stroller." It is a reasonable request and should be adhered to.

Taz will not know that he is missing that experience, and would likely fall asleep or more enjoy a romp with a ball outside.

It does seem that way for the dog area. Just seem to plain other than the two hills. I think there should be some sort of attractions there. Whoever is in charge probably expect the dogs to be "dumb" and not notice the lack of attractions compared to the children's play areas including the thundering water thrill.

Thunder, the idea behind the dog release area is that it be just that, a small urban space where owners can allow their dogs to play off leash for awhile. It was not intended to be a full dog park, or doggy "amusement" area.

Dogs do not have the ability to think cognitively like humans do. While they can reason out problems, as is evidenced in their play and/or prey behaviors (traits that are drawn upon in S&R-trained animals), they do not have the ability to see a Thunderstorm fountain and think "hey, why can't I get one of those in the dog play area." Their brains simply do not work in this capacity. This doesn't mean they are "dumb," it simply means their intelligence is not as advanced as that of humans.

They see it as water, nothing more. My dogs walked by it the other day and were completely unimpressed. Our beagle hates water so she wanted nothing to do with it. Dogs are not allowed on the fountain pad anyway, so people shouldn't be taking them there.

You are falling very easily into the trap of anthropomorphizing your animal. It's a big word to say "you are treating him like a human." I recognize that you feel in your heart that Taz is your "son." My dogs are just as easily my "kids" as they are a valued part of the family and we'd do anything for them - within REASON.

We also recognize that they are still non-human animals, and as such there is an appropriate place and time for them to be present in our lives. We may spoil them rotten, but we do not project our feelings or need for human companionship onto them.

Please learn the difference. When you understand how the world works this way, and learn that dogs, as the non-humans they are, should NOT be expected to be allowed everywhere simply because you will it so, you will enjoy Taz all the more.

Placing unrealistic expectations on what Taz is and how society should treat him only sets you up for continued disappointment.

Thunder
10-20-2011, 10:29 PM
Please go there and click Like!!! http://www.facebook.com/HudiburgAutoGroup

Then on the left side, click on Win $250 and scroll down to vote for Taz the Poodle!

He only got 6 votes. None from OKCTalk yet.... :-(

You can vote every day!!!

easternobserver
10-21-2011, 05:16 PM
In Oklahoma City, coloring a dog's hair is illegal.

§ 8-117. - Artificial coloring prohibited; transporting artificially colored animals prohibited.

(a)
It shall be unlawful for any person to dye or artificially color or cause to be dyed or artificially colored any mammal, bird, reptile, or amphibian, including wild and domesticated species or to bring or transport any dyed or artificially colored mammal, bird, reptile, or amphibian, including wild and domesticated species into the City.

(b)
It shall be unlawful for any person to tattoo any fish or to cause any fish to be tattooed or to bring or transport any tattooed fish into the City.

(c)
It shall be unlawful for any person to artificially color any fish or cause any fish to be artificially colored or to bring or transport any artificially colored fish into the City when the artificial coloring is a result of the injection of dyes into the fish through the use of needles or other invasive techniques.

(Ord. No. 23145, § 2, 10-3-06; Ord. No. 23464, § 1, 10-9-07)

§ 8-118. - Possession, sale, barter or gift of artificially colored animals prohibited.

It shall be unlawful for any person to possess, offer for sale, sell, barter or give away any dyed or artificially colored animal.

(Ord. No. 23145, § 2, 10-3-06)

§ 8-119. - Penalty for cruelty to animals.

Any person violating any provisions of Sections 8-106 through 8-118 of this article shall upon conviction thereof be guilty of a Class "b" offense.

(Ord. No. 23145, § 2, 10-3-06)

easternobserver
10-21-2011, 05:18 PM
Take the little guy to the small dog part of the dog park off of I-40 and Sunnylane -- he can play on the toys and the fence is in great shape.

Roadhawg
10-21-2011, 05:47 PM
Does anybody ever tattoo a fish?

Bunty
10-21-2011, 11:58 PM
In Oklahoma City, coloring a dog's hair is illegal.

§ 8-117. - Artificial coloring prohibited; transporting artificially colored animals prohibited.

(a)
It shall be unlawful for any person to dye or artificially color or cause to be dyed or artificially colored any mammal, bird, reptile, or amphibian, including wild and domesticated species or to bring or transport any dyed or artificially colored mammal, bird, reptile, or amphibian, including wild and domesticated species into the City.

(b)
It shall be unlawful for any person to tattoo any fish or to cause any fish to be tattooed or to bring or transport any tattooed fish into the City.

(c)
It shall be unlawful for any person to artificially color any fish or cause any fish to be artificially colored or to bring or transport any artificially colored fish into the City when the artificial coloring is a result of the injection of dyes into the fish through the use of needles or other invasive techniques.

(Ord. No. 23145, § 2, 10-3-06; Ord. No. 23464, § 1, 10-9-07)

§ 8-118. - Possession, sale, barter or gift of artificially colored animals prohibited.

It shall be unlawful for any person to possess, offer for sale, sell, barter or give away any dyed or artificially colored animal.

(Ord. No. 23145, § 2, 10-3-06)

§ 8-119. - Penalty for cruelty to animals.

Any person violating any provisions of Sections 8-106 through 8-118 of this article shall upon conviction thereof be guilty of a Class "b" offense.

(Ord. No. 23145, § 2, 10-3-06)

I guess dying could be cruelty to animals, especially if they have an allergic reaction to the dye. So where did Thunder get his strange idea to dye his Taz in blue and black?

ljbab728
10-22-2011, 12:23 AM
I guess dying could be cruelty to animals, especially if they have an allergic reaction to the dye. So where did Thunder get his strange idea to dye his Taz in blue and black?

Bunty, it's best not to ask where Thunder gets his ideas.

Thunder
10-22-2011, 12:57 AM
Does anybody ever tattoo a fish?

Yes, and you should know this. One popular fish sold in stores long ago was the Painted Glass Fish. They were actually injected with ink. That has since been stopped...hopefully. Google is your dear friend. Most fish that were dyed or injected with ink don't even survive. The few that do survive...will shortly die. And the fewer that do live longer...will only have such colors to be faded away.

As for the stupid regulation that OKC has, it was never enforced. Color dyeing is perfectly safe for canines. Fortunately, I do not live in OKC, and if I do have Taz the Poodle dyed, I will make sure he stays out of OKC, because police there has bad rep.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc92/thunderokc/Taz/2011-10-21160527.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc92/thunderokc/Taz/2011-10-21160548.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc92/thunderokc/Taz/2011-10-21160559.jpg

Larry OKC
10-23-2011, 01:15 AM
If not mistaken, the OKC ordinance mirrors State law on the subject...

Thunder
10-27-2011, 04:28 AM
Well, no one can tell me how to raise my son. This interfere with my religion. Its harmless anyway and only once in a while.

Update on his food and #2.

Puppy Chow = Huge Monster Sh!t

Wellness = Little Mini PooPoo

Prunepicker
10-27-2011, 08:57 AM
I need the top best groomer specifically for Poodles. Can anyone list
some recommendations?
Are there any poodle clubs in town? The owners would know where
to take your dog.

Prunepicker
10-27-2011, 08:59 AM
Update on his food and #2.

Puppy Chow = Huge Monster poop

Wellness = Little Mini PooPoo
Our mini Australian Shepherd is on a raw meat diet. It's hard to find any
poop in the yard.

Roadhawg
10-27-2011, 09:24 AM
Our mini Australian Shepherd is on a raw meat diet. It's hard to find any
poop in the yard.

I would go broke doing that for my 3 dogs.

Roadhawg
10-27-2011, 09:25 AM
Well, no one can tell me how to raise my son. This interfere with my religion. Its harmless anyway and only once in a while.

What religion covers how to raise a dog?

Thunder
10-27-2011, 09:47 AM
What religion covers how to raise a dog?

Independent. My very own. OKC can just shove it. Might as well ban the morons from coloring their hair since they don't want doggies to have fun.

JayhawkTransplant
10-29-2011, 08:36 PM
Thunder, you searched high and low for a poodle that looks exactly like the one you got. So why would you want to dye his hair?

Also, why would you want to change the appearance of "your son?" Don't you think that will "hurt his feelings?"

I color my hair. Let me tell you, getting it done is not a fun process. Even if you are not allergic to it, it can itch like all heck. If you are even mildly allergic to it, it can burn like crazy. I still do it, because I am a human being and it is my choice. However, your dog is not able to make that choice. So please do not dye his hair. He is absolutely adorable the way he is!

Midtowner
10-30-2011, 05:42 PM
Independent. My very own. OKC can just shove it. Might as well ban the morons from coloring their hair since they don't want doggies to have fun.

Fun?

How does a dog derive pleasure from having its hair dyed? Dogs are colorblind.

MDot
10-30-2011, 05:50 PM
Fun?

How does a dog derive pleasure from having its hair dyed? Dogs are colorblind.

Remember who you're dealing with. Lol

MDot
10-30-2011, 05:51 PM
What religion covers how to raise a dog?

Take a wild guess. Lol

Thunder
10-30-2011, 05:57 PM
What religion covers how to raise a dog?

HE IS NOT A DOG!!!!!!!!! He is a puppy. A puppy being a Poodle breed.

MDot
10-30-2011, 07:09 PM
HE IS NOT A DOG!!!!!!!!! He is a puppy. A puppy being a Poodle breed.

Still a dog. A baby is still a human last time I checked. :-)

rcjunkie
10-30-2011, 07:11 PM
HE IS NOT A DOG!!!!!!!!! He is a puppy. A puppy being a Poodle breed.

What religion covers how to raise a poodle puppy?

MDot
10-30-2011, 08:00 PM
What religion covers how to raise a poodle puppy?

I remember reading in the bible that " if you spare the rod, your spoiling the dog", in other words don't spoil your dog/poodle puppy, woop them when they deserve it. Lol

Thunder
10-30-2011, 11:20 PM
Thunder, you searched high and low for a poodle that looks exactly like the one you got. So why would you want to dye his hair?

Also, why would you want to change the appearance of "your son?" Don't you think that will "hurt his feelings?"

I color my hair. Let me tell you, getting it done is not a fun process. Even if you are not allergic to it, it can itch like all heck. If you are even mildly allergic to it, it can burn like crazy. I still do it, because I am a human being and it is my choice. However, your dog is not able to make that choice. So please do not dye his hair. He is absolutely adorable the way he is!

I do love his colors and everything about him. I really don't see anything wrong with occasional dyeing his hair. Yes, the Poodle breed have hair...not fur. Its more like once or twice yearly. I have looked it up and determined that coloring is completely safe, especially for Poodles. Its not changing his appearance. The way I look at it, I put clothes on him (not all the time) and once in a while hair coloring is the same. I was thinking of maybe in Spring or Summer, dye him blue/black, football season OU colors, and maybe red/green for Christmas. I'm sure the vet can monitor if he has any allergic reaction. I will know immediately if he starts going extreme psycho, scratching, and howling thy kingdom come.

The dye for Poodles are not the same kind that we use. Food coloring is one method. We all know that is harmless. I'll check the options when I find an available groomer capable of doing it backed with years of experience.

ljbab728
10-31-2011, 12:57 AM
I do love his colors and everything about him. I really don't see anything wrong with occasional dyeing his hair. Yes, the Poodle breed have hair...not fur. Its more like once or twice yearly. I have looked it up and determined that coloring is completely safe, especially for Poodles. Its not changing his appearance. The way I look at it, I put clothes on him (not all the time) and once in a while hair coloring is the same. I was thinking of maybe in Spring or Summer, dye him blue/black, football season OU colors, and maybe red/green for Christmas. I'm sure the vet can monitor if he has any allergic reaction. I will know immediately if he starts going extreme psycho, scratching, and howling thy kingdom come.

The dye for Poodles are not the same kind that we use. Food coloring is one method. We all know that is harmless. I'll check the options when I find an available groomer capable of doing it backed with years of experience.

Just keep in mind, Thunder, that in doing that you're doing it totally for your pleasure. Your dog won't know or care that its been dyed. It's not like having a dog's fur trimmed to keep it more comfortable.

venture
10-31-2011, 01:01 AM
I was thinking of maybe in Spring or Summer, dye him blue/black, football season OU colors, and maybe red/green for Christmas.

So you want a toy, not a member of the family is what you are saying. I'm sorry...there is nothing humane about this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1208913/The-poodles-transformed-pandas-horses-snails-creative-grooming-dog-shows.html

Sure it may just be simple dye, but you are doing it for your enjoyment - not the animals. Pets look up to us to look out for them, not utilize them in anyway we see fit. Now if you want a dog that is going to work for you - hunting dog, cattle dog, etc...that is different. You bought this one as a pet to be, essentially, your child. Buying clothes for a dog is one thing - which I don't really agree with either, but some dogs do need additional covering in cold weather if they aren't growing a winter coat. However, dying the hair just to suit your desires it just selfish and does nothing for the dog. But...to each his own. You should expect to get strong opinions to comments you post here by making your world and completely open book.

Roadhawg
11-01-2011, 10:58 AM
St. Roch is rolling over in his grave

Bunty
11-01-2011, 12:23 PM
Maybe Thunder should have gotten a less cute dog, like a boxer.

Bill Robertson
11-01-2011, 02:20 PM
Thunder, I generally love my pets more than most people. Maybe all people. So I truly understand thinking of my pets as my children. Based on this I ask you very seriously to reconsider dying Taz. Even if it is perfectly safe. You are doing it for you, not him. Please think of only him in everything you do to or with him.

MDot
11-01-2011, 02:26 PM
Well I consider my children my dogs.... Psych, I don't have any kids. ;-)

Roadhawg
11-01-2011, 02:29 PM
If I was a dog and my owner dressed me up funny or dyed my fur I would poop in his shoes.

FritterGirl
11-01-2011, 02:42 PM
Well, I did dress my three "kids" in their Halloween costumes last night, but it's largely to amuse the children who come to the door for Trick or Treat. They put their "costumes" on for about two hours once a year. I figure that's okay, and the kiddoes love it.

I draw the line at clothes for everyday occasions, except for the Beagle, who does not fare well in colder temperatures. The two terriers would sit out for hours in a monsoon or blizzard were I to let them.

I would certainly draw the line at dyeing any of my pets' hair. They are not circus animals to be put upon a stage. They are not in my life solely for my entertainment. They are my "family," to be sure, but also my responsibility. Dyeing their hair solely for my own amusement is not a responsible act.

As Venture and others have noted, pet hair dyeing (much like taking the pet to local tourist attractions) is to the benefit of the pet "owner," not the animal itself. There is no intrinsic benefit to Taz by dyeing his hair. He won't know what has been done. Only you (and/or others) will.

Roadhawg
11-01-2011, 03:22 PM
I do admit that when I lived in Nebraska I had a 'sweater' for my dog when he went outside to do his business in the winter time.

Thunder
11-02-2011, 01:26 AM
People here talking like I abuse my baby and questioning my love for him. *sighs* What a world.

Taz the Poodle just had his first haircut (and a bath, etc). I went to A Class Grooming / Silver Poodle on 15th just off of Sunnylane (by the laundromat) in Del City. Mom used to take our doggy there for haircut many time oh so many years ago. So, I went in there, the business is still there, but the upkeep is horrible. Luckily, the lady said that her schedule was full for the day. So, I went to Dogs Beautiful on Bryant (previously on Bryant near 44th, but relocated to her home location) and 14th. Its very nice! She expanded her home on property to include such a glorious nice shop. She accepted him and he stayed there for a few hours (she was busy). Price for bath, haircut, and all the goodies came to $23.

Please do not attack me for what you are about to see in the pictures. The lady polished his nails.

When I left him there, the lady initially said to do a little work since its his first time (has to learn getting used to it), but he was well behaved, so she went ahead with the full work. I said to do anything for him. I was not prepared on what haircut style (traumatized with attacks from people on here). So, I let the lady to decide what haircut style. He's real cute. It really surprised me, because he was growing so big..then suddenly he is so tiny and skinny. LOL!

Next time, I will tell her to leave his hair a bit longer. I think its a bit too short and it makes him look older. The haircut took out all his brown tips, so only brown we see is his ears. :-O

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc92/thunderokc/Taz/2011-11-01170536.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc92/thunderokc/Taz/2011-11-01170545.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc92/thunderokc/Taz/2011-11-01170558.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc92/thunderokc/Taz/2011-11-01170604.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc92/thunderokc/Taz/2011-11-01170611.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc92/thunderokc/Taz/2011-11-01170619.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc92/thunderokc/Taz/2011-11-01170635.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc92/thunderokc/Taz/2011-11-01170641.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc92/thunderokc/Taz/2011-11-01211952.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc92/thunderokc/Taz/2011-11-01212040.jpg

MDot
11-02-2011, 01:29 AM
Dude, Taz is my dads nickname. Rename your dog. Lol JK

Thunder
11-02-2011, 01:33 AM
Dude, Taz is my dads nickname. Rename your dog. Lol JK

He is not a dog. He is a puppy. A puppy of a Poodle breed.

Would you rather I name him Bugs....Bugs Bunny? :-/

MDot
11-02-2011, 01:44 AM
He is not a dog. He is a puppy. A puppy of a Poodle breed.

Would you rather I name him Bugs....Bugs Bunny? :-/

I don't care what he is or what you name him, just not Patrick or Myles. Lol

Thunder
11-02-2011, 01:55 AM
I don't care what he is or what you name him, just not Patrick or Myles. Lol

OMG!!! :-O

His middle name is Patrick-Myles.

MDot
11-02-2011, 02:01 AM
OMG!!! :-O

His middle name is Patrick-Myles.

Seriously?

Thunder
11-02-2011, 02:22 AM
Seriously?

Hell yeah, thanks to you!

MDot
11-02-2011, 02:29 AM
Hell yeah, thanks to you!

Haha you punk. It's cool though, atleast your puppy is middle-named after me and my dad. Lol

FritterGirl
11-02-2011, 10:16 AM
HE IS NOT A DOG!!!!!!!!! He is a puppy. A puppy being a Poodle breed.

Thunder, regardless of what breed he is, Taz is a dog. He is a "puppy" now, but ultimately he is a dog.

People don't doubt your ability to give him proper care, but the concern is in "over" caring, and putting expectations on him befitting a HUMAN child, which he is not.

The pics are cute. Here's a website (http://arpeggiopoodles.tripod.com/poodlehaircutssz.html)that details out poodle cuts. Most are fit for large, or "standard"-sized poodles, and many are the types of cuts they use in the professional show ring, so they're not practical for day-to-day grooming. You might look at the "Teddy Bear" cut, which is the best for young pups. It's less structured than the regular poodle cut, and lets him keep that cute curly hair, while still being trim.

Roadhawg
11-02-2011, 11:07 AM
I can't believe this has gone 10 pages :doh:

MDot
11-02-2011, 11:27 AM
Thunder, regardless of what breed he is, Taz is a dog. He is a "puppy" now, but ultimately he is a dog.

People don't doubt your ability to give him proper care, but the concern is in "over" caring, and putting expectations on him befitting a HUMAN child, which he is not.

The pics are cute. Here's a website (http://arpeggiopoodles.tripod.com/poodlehaircutssz.html)that details out poodle cuts. Most are fit for large, or "standard"-sized poodles, and many are the types of cuts they use in the professional show ring, so they're not practical for day-to-day grooming. You might look at the "Teddy Bear" cut, which is the best for young pups. It's less structured than the regular poodle cut, and lets him keep that cute curly hair, while still being trim.

I've tried to explain it to him before. It's like trying to teach a whale to walk; it's not gonna happen. Lol

Bunty
11-02-2011, 01:20 PM
After his nice visit at the barber shop why think of dying Taz's hair now? I like how his ears have natural color that stands out.

venture
11-02-2011, 01:30 PM
After his nice visit at the barber shop why think of dying Taz's hair now? I like how his ears have natural color that stands out.

Agreed. Even though I don't care for Poodles (golden retriever - not yellow lab - person)...I do like how the natural coloring made for a unique look.

MDot
11-02-2011, 01:31 PM
Agreed. Even though I don't care for Poodles (golden retriever - not yellow lab - person)...I do like how the natural coloring made for a unique look.

I as well, but we all know Thunder won't pay any mind to us. Lol

Larry OKC
11-05-2011, 04:03 PM
I can't believe this has gone 10 pages :doh:

And just think, your contribution helped...LOL