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foodiefan
08-15-2011, 06:33 PM
Anyone else tried this place? I found it via EataroundOKC. Ate there here last week and thought it was great. . . sort of a "healthy island" in a sea of fast food. Delightful portions for lunch. Didn't try the soups. . .will wait till cooler weather.

Easy180
08-15-2011, 08:45 PM
Work right around there...What is it by?

bandnerd
08-15-2011, 09:17 PM
It's on the west side of the Target shopping center on Rockwell and NW Expressway. It's north of Ross, Famous Footwear, and Radio Shack.

Easy180
08-15-2011, 09:32 PM
Gotcha...Will have to check it out but will have to be careful cause Qdoba calls out my name whenever I get to that intersection

ljbab728
08-15-2011, 10:22 PM
Anyone else tried this place? I found it via EataroundOKC. Ate there here last week and thought it was great. . . sort of a "healthy island" in a sea of fast food. Delightful portions for lunch. Didn't try the soups. . .will wait till cooler weather.

I saw that a few weeks ago when I was going to the Target store but didn't know what it was. I only remembered that it had "Green" in the name.

eataroundokc.com
08-16-2011, 09:44 AM
Anyone else tried this place? I found it via EataroundOKC. Ate there here last week and thought it was great. .

Very glad our site was able to help you find a new place. We've had a lot of great comments about Green and Grilled from people who have tried it. In case anyone is interested, here's the link to our review:

http://www.eataroundokc.com/green-and-grilled-healthy-meets-tasty/

lasomeday
08-16-2011, 10:29 AM
Can't wait to try it. I love the signage. It looks like something that would be in Boulder or Seattle.

metro
08-25-2011, 09:37 AM
But unfortunately it's a horrible location and I doubt they last. We need more restaurants like this, but people need to do their homework. As they say, location, location, Location.

onthestrip
08-25-2011, 10:47 AM
But unfortunately it's a horrible location and I doubt they last. We need more restaurants like this, but people need to do their homework. As they say, location, location, Location.

While I wont be going there much, if ever, because of the far western location there are still lots of rooftops and offices out that way that will most likely keep it in business. Just because you and I wont be going doesnt mean it will be going out of business metro. The good reviews this place has been getting will also help.

Steve
08-25-2011, 10:50 AM
But unfortunately it's a horrible location and I doubt they last. We need more restaurants like this, but people need to do their homework. As they say, location, location, Location.

It's a horrible location for folks in the urban core, Metro. But as onthestrip says, it's not a bad location for a restaurant. It will do fine if it's as good as the reviews. Cheer on a restaurant like this, and maybe they'll open a second location closer to the inner-city.

Jim Kyle
08-25-2011, 11:24 AM
It's a horrible location for folks in the urban core, Metro. But as onthestrip says, it's not a bad location for a restaurant. It will do fine if it's as good as the reviews. Cheer on a restaurant like this, and maybe they'll open a second location closer to the inner-city.Gotta disagree with you and onthestrip about the location, Steve. Just look at the history of food places in Rockwell Plaza: Crystal's, a pretty good cafeteria, Tommy's, the cake place that previously occupied the Green and Grilled location, my own Kernal's Korn (where Louie's now holds forth), the Super Salad that preceded Louie's in that location, a great but short-lived barbeque place on the west side -- and this is just a partial list of the ones that couldn't overcome the location. Granted there are a few that manage to survive, such as Chili's, KFC, CiCi's, and Schlotzky's, but almost all of them are fast-food outlets, not upscale operations. Access to Rockwell Plaza, despite the number of homes and offices in the area, is simply not very good for places like Green and Grilled -- unfortunately!

kevinpate
08-25-2011, 11:39 AM
The eataroundokc.com review started thusly:


If you love greasy, double-meat burgers dripping with cheese or over-sized breadsticks soaked in garlic butter then read no further. Green and Grilled is not the place for you.

Having often trusted their reviews, I found no reason to continue reading. They know me so well.

MustangGT
08-25-2011, 11:57 AM
But unfortunately it's a horrible location and I doubt they last. We need more restaurants like this, but people need to do their homework. As they say, location, location, Location.

Why? Do you mean that those of us who live in the NW quadrant are not capable of appreciating and patronizing this business??? Obviously the folks who fronted the money thought it was a good idea and it is THERE money at risk.

Steve
08-25-2011, 12:15 PM
Gotta disagree with you and onthestrip about the location, Steve. Just look at the history of food places in Rockwell Plaza: Crystal's, a pretty good cafeteria, Tommy's, the cake place that previously occupied the Green and Grilled location, my own Kernal's Korn (where Louie's now holds forth), the Super Salad that preceded Louie's in that location, a great but short-lived barbeque place on the west side -- and this is just a partial list of the ones that couldn't overcome the location. Granted there are a few that manage to survive, such as Chili's, KFC, CiCi's, and Schlotzky's, but almost all of them are fast-food outlets, not upscale operations. Access to Rockwell Plaza, despite the number of homes and offices in the area, is simply not very good for places like Green and Grilled -- unfortunately!

Jim, don't force me to become a suburban defender... this is painful enough.
;)

metro
08-25-2011, 12:33 PM
It's a horrible location for folks in the urban core, Metro. But as onthestrip says, it's not a bad location for a restaurant. It will do fine if it's as good as the reviews. Cheer on a restaurant like this, and maybe they'll open a second location closer to the inner-city.

Always positive as well Steve. Funny I said nothing of the inner core, I could care less. But it has poor visibility, and is in the strip center, that section of the strip center has always done poorly. I hope I'm wrong. I'm out that way at least once a week and tried patronizing it, only to find it closed when I go by. If it was facing NWE it would be a whole other story

Jim Kyle
08-25-2011, 12:44 PM
For that matter, it would be much better off if located over in Brixton Square, where Panera Bread seems to be doing all right. Rockwell Plaza, though, has pretty much always been a black hole for start-up food places.

It's not the whole NW quadrant that I consider to be bad location, just Rockwell Plaza. Even the locations on the east side of Rockwell would be much more promising...

Larry OKC
08-25-2011, 01:26 PM
Even up until they closed, the Crystals was there for quite a while (decades?) and always seemed fairly busy. Even the Mexican place that took its place (Pasados???) was good and seemed to be doing well. Then it closed and the building bulldozed to build a Chilis (relatively new, relocated from what is now Hideaway Pizza). :-(

metro
08-25-2011, 11:36 PM
For that matter, it would be much better off if located over in Brixton Square, where Panera Bread seems to be doing all right. Rockwell Plaza, though, has pretty much always been a black hole for start-up food places.

It's not the whole NW quadrant that I consider to be bad location, just Rockwell Plaza. Even the locations on the east side of Rockwell would be much more promising...

Exactly my point, but leave it to Lackmeyer to take the cheap and lazy shot, keep in mind the only reason Chili's and Panera does well in these ovations is that they are a national chain with big ad budgets.

ljbab728
08-26-2011, 12:02 AM
Exactly my point, but leave it to Lackmeyer to take the cheap and lazy shot, keep in mind the only reason Chili's and Panera does well in these ovations is that they are a national chain with big ad budgets.

So obviously unless a restaurant is a national chain with big ad budgets they can never be successful in a non urban shopping center location. Have I got that right?
If that's the case I need to inform my neighbors at Cajun King that they should give it up even though their parking is always packed. It replaced a couple of failed restaurants in the same location so they have to be doomed as well since great food and great service don't count and it's all about location.

clz46
08-26-2011, 12:27 AM
Went tonight with my husband and granddaughter. I just live across the NW highway from it and didn't know it was there until I saw it here. We all thought the food was great. No doubt we will add it to our restaurant list. You know the "list" ..." where should we go out to eat tonight dear? Well, how about here or there." Thanks foodiefan for adding this one to our "list"

bandnerd
08-26-2011, 06:20 AM
So obviously unless a restaurant is a national chain with big ad budgets they can never be successful in a non urban shopping center location. Have I got that right?
If that's the case I need to inform my neighbors at Cajun King that they should give it up even though their parking is always packed. It replaced a couple of failed restaurants in the same location so they have to be doomed as well since great food and great service don't count and it's all about location.

This. I lived downtown, and now I live in a suburban area. My interest in good food didn't go away because I moved to a different area of the city. Just because a person either doesn't desire to live in the most urban area of the city, or simply can't afford it, doesn't mean that they are ignorant about non-chain restaurants. And now I want Cajun King.

BBatesokc
08-26-2011, 07:37 AM
Ehhh, IMO location has alot to do with getting some immediate walk-ins, but if a business is well financed an odd location with great reviews can be a magic mix. While a different kinda fare, Edmond's Cow Calf Hay is in a traditionally very bad location and my last two visits required a 10 minute wait for a table. But, again, the owners could afford to wait for customers to find them.

MustangGT
08-26-2011, 08:26 AM
keep in mind the only reason Chili's and Panera does well in these ovations is that they are a national chain with big ad budgets.

They stay in busines becasue they turn a profit. I have NEVER seen any ads for either business in those location so I guess it is neighborhood familiarity that is also a point to ponder. When one finds oneself in a hole it is best to quit digging.

Steve
08-26-2011, 09:20 AM
Exactly my point, but leave it to Lackmeyer to take the cheap and lazy shot, keep in mind the only reason Chili's and Panera does well in these ovations is that they are a national chain with big ad budgets.
Leave it to metro to get all super sensitive and read things into my comments that aren't there. Again, my sincerest apologies to you Metro for not getting my comment approved by you in advance of posting it. I don't buy into the visibility thing.... the really great restaurants thrive in some pretty obscure retail strips - note the Half Calf Cafe's location, the years of success for Allen's before the owners retired from the restaurant bs, etc. If Green and Grilled is as good as the buzz indicates, it will do fine.

Jim Kyle
08-26-2011, 09:41 AM
If Green and Grilled is as good as the buzz indicates, it will do fine.I certainly hope that it does, since it's just about the closest place (other than fast-food outlets) to my home (one other one is just across the Expressway in Brixton Square, but I don't care for Japanese steakhouses all that often). The history of Rockwell Plaza, though, isn't all that great -- for any business, in fact, not just for restaurants. It took a horrible hit back in 1985, when Rockwell was closed off for much of the year and customers had extreme difficulty getting into the place, and its management hasn't been the best ever since. The sole multi-story building in the center is up for auction and the parking lot chronically competes in "largest chughole in the state" contests. My sole point in this thread is that they face an uphill battle because of their location; hopefully it won't take them down!

metro
08-26-2011, 09:51 AM
Leave it to Newlon to get all super sensitive and read things into my comments that aren't there. Again, my sincerest apologies to you Metro for not getting my comment approved by you in advance of posting it. I don't buy into the visibility thing.... the really great restaurants thrive in some pretty obscure retail strips - note the Half Calf Cafe's location, the years of success for Allen's before the owners retired from the restaurant bs, etc. If Green and Grilled is as good as the buzz indicates, it will do fine.

Thanks Steve. Great journalism there. Throw out last names on a internet forum without permission, on a forum that allows anonymity. And heaven forbid anyone have an opposing opinion. Not sure what your issue is, but you can't seem to stand anyone that opposes you. Dark Tower Journalism 101. The newsroom must be slow again.

Barry Luxton
08-26-2011, 09:55 AM
Thanks Steve. Great journalism there. Throw out last names on a internet forum without permission, on a forum that allows anonymity. And heaven forbid anyone have an opposing opinion. Not sure what your issue is, but you can't seem to stand anyone that opposes you. Dark Tower Journalism 101. The newsroom must be slow again.

Girls! Girls! You're BOTH pretty! :Smiley105

BBatesokc
08-26-2011, 09:56 AM
Since when is posting to OKCtalk considered a journalistic endeavor?

Steve
08-26-2011, 09:56 AM
I love you too Metro.

Steve
08-26-2011, 09:57 AM
Since when is posting to OKCtalk considered a journalistic endeavor?

Touche.

BBatesokc
08-26-2011, 10:02 AM
Does this mean all of our posts need to be in AP Style now?

Martin
08-26-2011, 10:05 AM
let's quit the bickering and get back to topic. -M

foodiefan
08-26-2011, 01:15 PM
Thanks foodiefan for adding this one to our "list"

You are most welcome!! I'm just happy to have a fresh alternative to all of the fast food/grease emporiums in the area.

metro
08-26-2011, 02:10 PM
I agree. I'd love to see this grow as Cool Greens has

Jim Kyle
08-26-2011, 05:06 PM
Today I finally got around to trying their menu; it was the healthiest meal I've eaten in months! I had the grilled steak, brown rice, and bacon-spinach salad, while my wife had grilled chicken, brown rice, and sauteed vegetables as her salad. The servings were generous and the food quite tasty. We'll definitely be going back!

Our initial perusal of their menu left us a bit cool since it looked to be overly spicy for our tastes, and we actually turned to leave, but the owner caught up with us just outside the door and explained in detail what each of the choices offered -- and that changed our minds. I'm glad it did!

There were only a handful of other customers at the time, but it was well past the normal lunch hour so that's not at all surprising. I only wish they had a caffeine-free root beer as one choice at their drink station -- but water is probably better for me anyway.

And next time I plan to save room for a serving of flan as dessert!

foodiefan
08-26-2011, 07:20 PM
maybe it's "turn-around" time for this area? There are a lot of "big box" stores and chains in the area that draw a lot of people. . . . but, in the last two weeks, I've found two local places in Rockwell Plaza that I will definitely frequent as long as they are in business. . .Grilled and Green and Sean's Wine and Spirits. Both have been somewhat "panned" on OKC Talk as being not able to make it for various reasons (primarily location). . .but I'm hoping for the best. This area has a lot of going for it. . .it just needs some "locals" to make it "primo". They have "built it". . .now it's up to us to come.

foodiefan
08-26-2011, 07:24 PM
p.s. :congrats:kudos to those who have tried/liked and posted. . .that's what it takes to make something a "go"!!

Jim Kyle
08-26-2011, 08:38 PM
I also have to give some credit to the current management of Rockwell Plaza, since they are re-sealing the parking lot and have done away with most of the really horrible speed bumps installed by earlier management. Along the west side in front of Green and Grilled, the old bumps have been replaced with raised brick sidewalks that have rather gentle inclines on each side. They serve the same purpose but are not nearly so hard on vehicle suspension. Perhaps they really will turn the place around; I hope so!

Larry OKC
08-27-2011, 02:35 PM
Thanks Steve. Great journalism there. Throw out last names on a internet forum without permission, on a forum that allows anonymity. And heaven forbid anyone have an opposing opinion. Not sure what your issue is, but you can't seem to stand anyone that opposes you. Dark Tower Journalism 101. The newsroom must be slow again.
I'm sorry, corect me if i am wrong, but weren't you the first to throw out the "last name" (did you ask Steve's permission?) in your post:

Exactly my point, but leave it to Lackmeyer to take the cheap and lazy shot, keep in mind the only reason Chili's and Panera does well in these ovations is that they are a national chain with big ad budgets.
Steve apparently went back and edited his post that you quoted so as to not offend, it now says "Metro". And before you get all defensive, I realize Steve is in a slightly different position. He doesn't make it a secret he is who he is and his occupation or his employer. I can't even imagine how hard it must be working for a place that is despised by many (sometimes justified). He shows remarkable restraint. He doesn't show any interest in hiding behind a keyboard either. What about your "cheap and lazy shot" at Steve & his employer? So often pot calling kettle around here.

Lalala
09-21-2011, 11:03 PM
Louie's is not a national
Chain and they seem to be doing pretty well in Rockwell plaza. I happen to know that the Rockwell plaza chilis and bueno have the highest numbers for their stores in the whole state. The parking lot that is rough belongs to the office building, not the shopping center- different owners. Since 1985 I would say that the shopping center has come a long way and is by far the best shopping center on the corner. Target and ross would not be located in a sub par shopping center. Have you heard who is taking over the old aspen space? The ymca. That should bring a ton of visibility to green and grilled. Green and grilled will do great, it will just take time to get the name out there just like any other good restaurant with a low marketing budget.

tburn
11-05-2011, 06:41 PM
Had lunch here today -- really hope this place does well. LOVE the menu!
I had the grilled steak (marinated in citrus & spices) with carrot rice and tropical salad.
My friend also had the grilled steak with spinach rice & spinach salad. The portion was perfect and we were hungry! I appreciate the variety of flavors. Both owners were friendly and stopped by our table for feedback. There were 4 other tables with diners when we were there at 1pm on Saturday -- people kept coming in.
LOVE the aesthetic of the place - clean & modern. I wish I had saved room for dessert!
Unfortunately, the location will prohibit me from having weekday lunch or dinner there, I hope they are so successful that they open a second location closer to town or just east of Meridian or Portland! ... or downtown/midtown!
I did request they add a seafood (shrimp, salmon or fish) to the menu, but I think they don't currently have a daily source for seafood -- they did indicate they want everything very fresh.

kelly73099
12-08-2011, 08:26 AM
Loved this place. Good portions, good value, good flavor, well prepared, good service. Everything you want in a restaurant. This is how we all should eat at home, but don't. My only gripe is that the lighting was so dim that it appeared to be closed looking at it from the outside after dark last night (and there were no other patrons in there at the time). I almost passed it up thinking it was closed but am so glad I didn't. There was a little walk in business while we were there (some people holding shopping bags from the clothing store next door) - mostly new customers and the owner made an effort to welcome everyone and explain the menu and answer questions, even offering tastings of the soups to one uncertain woman. I hope they make it.

Jim Kyle
12-08-2011, 10:23 AM
The best way I know to help them make it is to go back often, and spread the word among all your friends. The first time my wife and I were there, we read the menu, decided it wasn't to our taste, and went back out. The owner caught up with us on the sidewalk and talked with us for a while, answered all our questions, and we went back -- and loved it! We've returned several times since then; hardly ever have there been more than one or two others present. Thus it's essential that all of us who wish this enterprise well do everything we can to spread the word...

Martin
12-08-2011, 12:05 PM
that's a cool story, jim... always like hearing about places that try to win their customers. -M

Jim Kyle
12-08-2011, 10:35 PM
They are VERY nice people. It's a young family venture. Most every time I've been there I've seen their toddler scampering around back in the storage area, and being carefully kept away from the actual food-prep area, which is out in the open where we can see everything that goes on. Thinking about them gets my appetite going again; I may have to drop in tomorrow afternoon for a late lunch/early dinner!

foodiefan
12-09-2011, 08:45 AM
. . .need some more lights from Target. . .I think I see G&G for lunch!

ISayGoPokes
01-11-2012, 04:43 PM
I love Green and Grilled. Even my husband, who thinks he is allergic to anything he thinks is healthy, enjoyed it. We've told our friends and family and many have gone and all love it. I hope they succeed.

We live in this part of the city, and find ourselves in this shopping center frequently. Target has helped, and Sean's is a great liquor store. I think the addition of Joann's and the new Y will keep things busy in the shopping center. I drive by everyday and the Rockwell/NW Expressway intersection is ridiculously busy most of the time.

OSUMom
01-11-2012, 10:53 PM
My husband and I have discussed trying it a few times but haven't yet. We leaned about Cajun King from this site, so now it looks like we have a new place to try that we learned about here.

For a restaurant to get past a bad location it really needs to be really, really good and have a good word-of-mouth system going. So from the sounds of it, it might make it even in the bad place, just like Cajun King did. (In fact I would say it has a better location then Cajun King. IMHO)

Easy180
07-12-2012, 06:50 PM
Went for the first time and it was pretty darn full at lunch time...Had the grilled chicken which was yummy...Whatever they marinated it in gives it great flavor...Comes with a 1/2 salad and I went with carrot rice which was excellent

Folks that live or work up that way should definitely try it out

mikeareese
08-24-2012, 05:08 AM
Jaime Cerreta picked this place as 1 of her favs. She has a video on 25.

Teeg
08-30-2012, 09:43 AM
SUPER nice owners. I stopped in for to-go food one day midafternoon and we got to visiting - they seem to be really great people - I love the menu lineup and my order was GREAT!

Jim Kyle
08-30-2012, 07:03 PM
You made me hungry for their food again so I called in a takeout order for our supper. When I picked it up, I told the owner about your post and steered him to this thread, so he may be chiming in pretty soon.

He recognizes me each time I'm there and always makes time to chat a bit; very nice people!!!

Rover
09-03-2012, 08:32 AM
Why does it seem on every thread it deteriorates to urban superiority over dumb suburbanites?

If ALL that mattered was traffic count, places all over downtown would never locate there. While this location suffers from sub-optimum visibility it can still succeed with good food and good value. I agree with Steve...let's hope a good new concept works in OKC so it will add more locations....even in the core. This isn't a NW suburban issue, or a downtown issue, nor a capital Hill issue, it is a Oklahoma City issue. We want good concepts to succeed here and better food to dominate over bad food. Good value over bad. This seems to help do that.

TechArch
09-13-2012, 02:16 PM
I ate there for lunch today. I had the grilled pork, brown rice, and fresh fruit. For the price, it is very good. The owner came over to ask if we had any questions about the menu. While he was talking to us about the menu he said that all of their food is made fresh and without preservatives. I enjoy hearing that about the food I am eating, plus I enjoy supporting local places. The only thing that disappointed me about the place was the amount of lighting - it was very dim.

SSEiYah
12-04-2012, 08:33 PM
I'm a big fan of this place, and have eaten here probably 20 times this year. My girlfriend lives in the area and its a great choice since I'm trying to watch the calories and since both my girlfriend and I work during the weekday, we are usually too exhausted to figure out a "healthy meal" at home at night so this has hit the spot many times.

I've noticed however the last two times we have eaten there we have been the only guests, twice in a row now in the last few weeks during what I would consider the "dinner rush" for most places. I just hope they will continue to stay in business and I encourage y'all on the suburban northwest side to support these guys.

Easy180
12-04-2012, 08:38 PM
Hopefully they are doing ok at lunch. Either way the product is good enough to land the owners in a more visible spot if they don't make it long term there