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Jeepnokc
07-17-2015, 08:32 AM
I had been having the Indonesian Sulawesi at Elemental for the last week. It is amazing. So I went to Coffee Dan/West End Roastery and bought some green Sumatran beans. I took them home and roasted them in my popcorn popper. I just made a french press out of them. Awesome. Earthy. Fruity. Smooth. Apparently Indonesian/Sumatran coffee is my jam :-)

Sounds like something I would like also. I have a "my Café" by Bunn which allows you to use pods, k-cups, or ground coffee. It also has a pulse feature to give stronger coffee. My favorite is Samatra Mandheling. Lately, I have been buying El Dorado Coffee pods and have been happy with them. If I use the grounds....it is almost always Community Coffee with chicory

benjico
07-17-2015, 08:49 AM
I had been having the Indonesian Sulawesi at Elemental for the last week. It is amazing. So I went to Coffee Dan/West End Roastery and bought some green Sumatran beans. I took them home and roasted them in my popcorn popper. I just made a french press out of them. Awesome. Earthy. Fruity. Smooth. Apparently Indonesian/Sumatran coffee is my jam :-)

I've been any interested in trying to roast beans at home...any good resources for learning how and getting beans?

borchard
07-18-2015, 07:14 AM
How To Roast Green Coffee At Home (http://www.breworganic.com/coffee/howtoroast.htm)

This one looks good. I use both the "Whirly Pop" stove-top popper with the articulating arm, and an air popper.
The air popper is very easy. You just can't roast very much at one time, or it will burn out the motor.
With the Whirly Pop you can roast more beans at one time. You just have to keep turning the little crank so that the beans get evenly roasted.
A word of advice? Don't do EITHER inside your house. When you roast coffee the husks come off the beans, and with the air popper they will blow all over your floor.
And with both the smoke and smell of burnt coffee will be all over your house AND YOU! lol

As far as getting beans there is only one place in Oklahoma City that I have found that will sell green beans. West Wend Roastery/Coffee Dan's on West Main has lots of different varieties, and his prices are pretty reasonable. I've heard that there are numerous places online that you can order from. I'm just glad West End is fairly close to my house.

MagzOK
07-18-2015, 07:27 AM
When I have time, I'll grind up some beans I get from Cafe Topeca and brew in my French Press. Topeca is out of Tulsa. They have some incredible roasts there. I purchase all via their website and they ship it to me, however I have stopped in their shop when I was up the turnpike. Neat little place. I think it's better than Elemental and Coffee Slingers. But we all have our tastes.

borchard
07-18-2015, 08:03 AM
When I have time, I'll grind up some beans I get from Cafe Topeca and brew in my French Press. Topeca is out of Tulsa. They have some incredible roasts there. I purchase all via their website and they ship it to me, however I have stopped in their shop when I was up the turnpike. Neat little place. I think it's better than Elemental and Coffee Slingers. But we all have our tastes.

I like Topeca, too. You can also buy their beans at Whole Foods. They are very unique in that they own the farm in El Salvador where their coffee comes from. This is from their website:


“Seed-to-Cup” takes Direct Trade one step further, we don’t just purchase coffee directly from our farms, we own our farms. Our Family has been growing coffee since 1850 on the Ayutepeque farm, and 6 generations later we are continuing the tradition while continually looking forward towards innovation.

Urban Pioneer
07-18-2015, 12:45 PM
On Wednesday I had a "Melody special" at Coffee Slingers. It was espresso with coconut milk over ice. Absolutely awesome cold drink for the summer. Apparently it is only available during Shop Hop each month. Actually at Evoke typing this. lola

Klop
07-18-2015, 06:37 PM
Has anyone else tried Hoboken, in Guthrie? I think it's pretty legit, just way up north.

Hoboken is outstanding. They have their own roaster. Just a little out of the way for you City folks though.

borchard
07-19-2015, 06:40 AM
Luckily I go to church with a lot of hipsters and we get Hoboken coffee every Sunday :-)

borchard
07-21-2015, 10:47 AM
What are your favorite machines for;
1. Espresso - I have a Braun home espresso machine, but my Nespresso OriginaLine makes the best espresso I've had
2. Brewed coffee I also have a Nespresso VirtuoLine for a full cup. BUt I also have a small percolator that I bought at a Thrift Store that makes outstanding coffee. Lately I've been using my French Press, as well
3. Pods Once again, Nespresso is the best pod machine that I've ever had.

Urbanized
07-22-2015, 03:12 PM
I have a Nespresso at home and a Kureig in the office, and it is not even close. As good as Kureig is, Nespresso makes K-cups taste like instant. If Nespresso pods weren't so pricey I would put one in the office, but too many people come in here and help themselves to coffee.

borchard
07-22-2015, 07:59 PM
I have a Nespresso at home and a Kureig in the office, and it is not even close. As good as Kureig is, Nespresso makes K-cups taste like instant. If Nespresso pods weren't so pricey I would put one in the office, but too many people come in here and help themselves to coffee.

I hit the jackpot recently. A friend said that one of his coworkers had a Nespresso, but it broke, and he completely ruined it trying to fix it himself. He said the guy would probably give me his unused pods. Sure enough, he said to come by his office and I could have them. I showed up, and he gave me over 100 Nespresso pods!!!

borchard
08-04-2015, 01:54 PM
I'm traveling in DC this week. I've been able to have Illy AND Lavazza coffee so far.

borchard
08-13-2015, 07:44 AM
I visited Gray Owl Coffee in Norman, yesterday. I liked it. Great place, but I don't see myself making a trip all the way to Norman JUST to go there. If I'm in Norman anyway, then yes.

borchard
08-18-2015, 09:05 AM
Anyone heard anything about the two coffee shops that are SUPPOSED to be opening in downtown? One is going to be in the ground floor of the garage that is just west of Devon and the other one is in the Maywood apartments?

Martin
08-18-2015, 09:14 AM
Anyone heard anything about the two coffee shops that are SUPPOSED to be opening in downtown? One is going to be in the ground floor of the garage that is just west of Devon and the other one is in the Maywood apartments?

here's more info on the one in the garage: Clarity Coffee - OKCTalk (http://www.okctalk.com/showwiki.php?title=Clarity+Coffee)

seaofchange
08-20-2015, 12:39 AM
Anyone heard anything about the two coffee shops that are SUPPOSED to be opening in downtown? One is going to be in the ground floor of the garage that is just west of Devon and the other one is in the Maywood apartments?

Leaf + Bean (http://www.leafandbeanokc.com) is opening in the bottom floor of Mosaic at 3rd & Oklahoma. Pretty excited about that since I work at 4th & Oklahoma. I really enjoy their coffee - I think they use beans from Topeca Coffee Roasters in Tulsa...or atleast they used to. Maywood 1 doesn't have any ground floor retail, and Maywood 2 will only have restaurants, so I think you are probably thinking of Mosaic!

borchard
08-20-2015, 10:02 AM
Leaf + Bean (http://www.leafandbeanokc.com) is opening in the bottom floor of Mosaic at 3rd & Oklahoma. Pretty excited about that since I work at 4th & Oklahoma. I really enjoy their coffee - I think they use beans from Topeca Coffee Roasters in Tulsa...or atleast they used to. Maywood 1 doesn't have any ground floor retail, and Maywood 2 will only have restaurants, so I think you are probably thinking of Mosaic!

You're probably right. I thought it was Maywood. Oh well, I'm just glad there will be more coffee shops to pick from. I really like Elemental and Slingers, but more choice is always good.

borchard
09-18-2015, 08:21 AM
Yesterday I saw one of the coolest things Ive seen in awhile. Junction Coffee has a double-decker British bus. The coffee kitchen is in the bottom, and you can go up to the top where they've turned it into a small cafe.
I KNOW! RIGHT?! Really, really cool idea. Very well carried out, so far.
I will keep stopping by whenever I see the big, red bus parked anywhere.

borchard
10-13-2015, 09:32 AM
I've now gone to Aravalli, in the Devon Tower, a few times. Great Lavazza coffee.

corwin1968
12-09-2015, 12:07 PM
I've been working on my French Press technique but I'm not sure I'm making progress. I'm using the coarsest grind on my cheap Cuisinart burr grinder and four minutes is extremely sour so I've experimented with different times up to and including eight minutes. I'm thinking about going with a finer grind to get the extraction time down.

So far, I've bought a Topeca dark roast from a local coffee shop only to discover it had been brewed a month earlier. I then ordered a proprietary roast from a bike/coffee shop back East (their slogan is "Slow bikes and Slow Coffee".....LOL) but it was a bit lighter than I prefer. My most recent was an Ethiopian I ordered from Topeca and it was roasted one week prior to my getting it (I was hoping for a few days old). This is the first coffee I've had where the beans actually smell like fruit, the coffee has a fruity taste and the sludge left in the French Press smells like a cherry chocolate after sitting for a few hours. I liked the coffee but it's not my thing and I'll be ordering a different variety by the weekend. I will eventually visit one of our local roasters to sample their products.

borchard
12-10-2015, 08:40 AM
You might try roasting your own beans. I get green beans at West End Roastery/ Coffee Dan's on Main Street. I roast them in an air popcorn popper. You might try it and see if you get better results.

borchard
12-10-2015, 10:36 AM
Just wanted to post in this thread as well that I just went to Clarity Coffee for the first time and was really impressed with the place. Simple, elegant, comfortable. Great cup of Burundi Mpanga, as well.

corwin1968
12-10-2015, 10:49 AM
I achieved probably the best cup of coffee yet yesterday. I went to the website of Stumptown Roasters and used their French Press technique (they have videos for many methods) which is basically 56 grams of coffee, fill the press half-way, stir at one minute, add the rest of the water and plunge at 4 minutes. I cut the coffee amount in half and filled to the 1/4 line and then 1/2. The result was a cup of coffee that had no sourness, no bitterness, felt thick in my mouth and left a sweet tasting film on the roof of my mouth. It was also the best looking cup with a sort of bright, reddish-brown pearl appearance. It was outstanding! I drank about 2/3 of the cup and let it sit for 5-10 minutes and the bottom third was pretty sour or bitter. Probably due to coffee residue being present.

I tried again this morning, with a slightly finer grind to see if it fixes the ending sour/bitter taste and the whole cup was "off". Not sour or bitter but not as flavorful, thick or sweet as the first one. I guess I'll go back to the most course seeting. That was the last of my Ethiopian beans so I may have to make a trip downtown today for more fresh beans.

I've contemplated roasting my own beans and I'll probably eventually try it but right now I'm still trying to get a consistent brewing technique down.

My "perfect" cup resembled this espresso, but just a bit darker and without the crema:

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corwin1968
12-11-2015, 08:16 AM
The quest continues.....

I made the drive down to Elemental yesterday to pick up some beans and was happy to see they had plenty of beans that were roasted two days ago. I simply read the highlights of each, picked one that sounded interesting and purchased it. When I got home, I realized it was the same variety bean (Ethiopian Ardi) that I had purchased from Topeca! A chance to compare two roasters back-to-back!!

I'm slowly dialing in my technique for brewing coffee. This morning I used a meat thermometer (of questionable accuracy) and according to it, when I kill the flame on my kettle, the water is in the low 190's after about 20 seconds. I had been waiting for 30 seconds before pouring! I brought it back to a boil, killed the flame and poured at 12-15 seconds and the result was a respectable cup of coffee. My major issue has been sourness and now I know I've probably been using water that is too cool.

My next step is more accurate weighing of my coffee beans. I'm using a kitchen scale and sometimes one bean will take it from 24g to 26g so I know it's accuracy is low. Once I get a better scale, I can focus on exact water amounts as well, instead of just 1/4 full and then 1/2 full. If I'm still really into this in the Spring, I'll invest in a good grinder (probably a Baratza) and a good electric kettle (probably a Bonavita that is accurate to within 2 degrees).

My initial impressions of Topeca vs Elementarl Ardi beans is that Topeca's roast has magnitudes more aroma and complex flavors. It smells and tastes like fruit and chocolate. Elemental's roast has much less aroma and complex flavors and tastes more like the coffee I'm used to. Both are equally smooth and sweet, which I LOVE.

borchard
12-11-2015, 09:42 AM
I picked up some Costa Rican beans green coffee beans from West End Roastery yesterday . I roasted them in my Air Popper for probably a little longer than I should have. Costa Rican beans tend to do better with a light to medium roast. But I made a french press this morning out of them, and it was really really good.
I may break out the Whirly Pop and roast a bigger batch on the stove top and see if I get as good/if not better, results

corwin1968
12-11-2015, 01:39 PM
I picked up some Costa Rican beans green coffee beans from West End Roastery yesterday . I roasted them in my Air Popper for probably a little longer than I should have. Costa Rican beans tend to do better with a light to medium roast. But I made a french press this morning out of them, and it was really really good.
I may break out the Whirly Pop and roast a bigger batch on the stove top and see if I get as good/if not better, results

I would be interested in your ongoing experiences with roasting. For now, I'll leave it to the experts, but some day.....

borchard
12-18-2015, 11:14 AM
I would be interested in your ongoing experiences with roasting. For now, I'll leave it to the experts, but some day.....

If you simply Google how to roast beans at home you'll find plenty of articles/videos on how to do it. It's really the easiest thing I've leaned in a while.

White Peacock
12-22-2015, 08:42 AM
I'm a coffee drinker; can't live without it. But fine coffees are something I'm afraid to try, because I don't want it to spoil my palate and subsequently devastate my bank account. Just like I've avoided getting into a seriously hardcore vinyl collection (I have some, but only get vinyl versions of really special albums), I've kept my coffee expectations low and pocket the remainder. I know if I have the holy grail cup of coffee devoid of bitterness and so rich in natural flavor I could have cup after cup of unsweetened black without cringing every fifth swig, it'll be all over for my routine.

borchard
12-23-2015, 08:50 AM
I'm a coffee drinker; can't live without it. But fine coffees are something I'm afraid to try, because I don't want it to spoil my palate and subsequently devastate my bank account. Just like I've avoided getting into a seriously hardcore vinyl collection (I have some, but only get vinyl versions of really special albums), I've kept my coffee expectations low and pocket the remainder. I know if I have the holy grail cup of coffee devoid of bitterness and so rich in natural flavor I could have cup after cup of unsweetened black without cringing every fifth swig, it'll be all over for my routine.

I totally get it. But I guess it's like beer for me. "Drink, better, drink less." I love quality, craft beer. But I've been on a diet recently. Consequently when confronted with options of Bud Light, Miller Lite, Coors Light I choose water.
For me it's the same with coffee. I would rather have one, GREAT cup of coffee than 5 cups of McDonalds or 7 Eleven coffee..
And there really are ways to NOT pay a premium for premium coffee. I buy green beans for $2 less per pound than roasted. I roast it myself at home in a $5 popcorn popper, and make my own espresso. I just finished one before I typed this. And it was great!
I like places like Elemental, too. But if I went there every morning I'd probably go broke. :-)

corwin1968
12-23-2015, 12:47 PM
I know if I have the holy grail cup of coffee devoid of bitterness and so rich in natural flavor I could have cup after cup of unsweetened black without cringing every fifth swig, it'll be all over for my routine.

I haven't done a true calculation but I would say that I'm getting this holy grail cup of coffee about half the time and the other half of the time it's still pretty dang good. I did calculate that I'm spending well over $1 each time I drink coffee at home but it's worth it. I also found out I've been brewing my coffee very much on the weaker side of things. Today, I did a "golden standard" ratio (17:1) and it was a little stronger but not a huge difference and still little or no bitterness.

I'm expecting a smaller press pot for Christmas so I'm holding off on buying fresh roasted beans but I've found that Crest's Dunkin Donut beans make a very good pot of coffee.

White Peacock
12-24-2015, 08:12 AM
...I've found that Crest's Dunkin Donut beans make a very good pot of coffee.

Dunkin's beans are much better than one would think, yeah. I generally buy my coffee at Aldi. Their "donut store blend" which I'm pretty sure is their approximation of Dunkin's coffee, is pretty good. I dig their seasonal flavored coffees as well.

kukblue1
12-26-2015, 05:23 AM
Isn't All about Cha opening soon in Bricktown. More of a tea place then coffee but I went to their Tulsa location and it was great.

Brett
11-08-2018, 05:08 PM
I wanted to bump this thread because there is a new coffee roaster on S Air Depot Blvd between Reno and SE 15th St in MWC called Open Flame. I'm not sure if it has opened yet. I'm curious if anyone knows anything about this new build. Thanks!