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07-17-2011, 01:32 AM
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View Full Version : General Downtown Office Space ljbab728 07-17-2011, 01:32 AM http://newsok.com/office-market-thriving-in-downtown-oklahoma-city-observers-say/article/3586245?custom_click=headlines_widget workman45 07-17-2011, 07:21 AM Thanks for the information. G.Walker 07-17-2011, 07:54 AM Both articles Steve published are great news about the downtown office market. Moreover, Beffort stated we may see a large office building built. And O'Connor stated that we we will see more companies move here. With both of them stating that, I am confident we will see new addition to the skyline soon, because if anybody knows, its them... G.Walker 07-17-2011, 08:28 AM Oh and not to mention that the Oklahoma Tower is for sale now, bases on unsolicited inquiries. Based on these facts it seems like a major company is trying to move downtown... Spartan 07-17-2011, 09:05 AM Holy batman...we are down to 12% vacancy downtown?! kevinpate 07-17-2011, 09:12 AM Holy batman...we are down to 12% vacancy downtown?! Helps the numbers a bit when you combine some growth with knocking down a few and change some others over to housing. Spartan 07-17-2011, 09:15 AM We haven't converted much into housing lately, although that wave brought it down to 25% from the peak of 33% (or higher, I think), and the SR demolitions accounted for a huge amount of space, but not that much in comparison to the wholesale bulk of downtown office space. Pete 07-17-2011, 11:33 AM For a city it's size, OKC has a pretty small amount of downtown office space that shows up in these vacancy reports. Private buildings (like Devon, Continental, SandRidge, OG&E, AT&T, etc.) aren't a part of the survey and neither are Dowell Center (192,000 square feet that has yet to hit the market), the Braniff building and a bunch of others. Tulsa has about 9 million square feet in their inventory while OKC has just over 5 million. Steve 07-17-2011, 12:30 PM Important takeaways, in my opinion, from today's stories: - More Class C and lower space will soon be converted to other use; - We're looking at more owner-occupant office space being built (some of this we already know about, ie: SandRidge) - We're still years away from speculative office space like Leadership Square, etc., being built again; - It wouldn't be a surprise to see more mixed use (office/retail/residential) built; - I wouldn't translate O'Connor's comments as meaning a deal with Boeing to locate some office space downtown is imminent, but clearly they have reason to be hopeful - Keep in mind the percentages cited are for Class A/B space. But that is the space to keep an eye on downtown. OSUMom 07-17-2011, 01:07 PM What makes office space class A, B or C? Spartan 07-17-2011, 02:17 PM Important takeaways, in my opinion, from today's stories: - More Class C and lower space will soon be converted to other use; - We're looking at more owner-occupant office space being built (some of this we already know about, ie: SandRidge) - We're still years away from speculative office space like Leadership Square, etc., being built again; - It wouldn't be a surprise to see more mixed use (office/retail/residential) built; - I wouldn't translate O'Connor's comments as meaning a deal with Boeing to locate some office space downtown is imminent, but clearly they have reason to be hopeful - Keep in mind the percentages cited are for Class A/B space. But that is the space to keep an eye on downtown. What conversions do you see in the future? FNC? bluedogok 07-17-2011, 06:38 PM What makes office space class A, B or C? Here's a pretty good synopsis. Square Feet Commercial Real Estate Blog - A Guide to Office Building Classifications; Class A, Class B, Class C (http://www.squarefeetblog.com/commercial-real-estate-blog/2008/07/06/a-guide-to-office-building-classifications-class-a-class-b-class-c/) OSUMom 07-17-2011, 10:20 PM Thanks Bluedogok! Just the facts 07-18-2011, 12:17 AM None of the space Sandridge tore down was on the vacant list. It was all owner-occupied and was never counted as vacant even though it sat empty for several years. Steve 07-18-2011, 09:03 AM That's correct. But something that didn't make it into the story was Beffort talking about how it added to the perception of downtown having a glut of empty office space. Just the facts 07-18-2011, 09:17 AM That's correct. But something that didn't make it into the story was Beffort talking about how it added to the perception of downtown having a glut of empty office space. Sadly - perception is reality for a lot of people. Spartan 07-18-2011, 10:58 AM That's correct. But something that didn't make it into the story was Beffort talking about how it added to the perception of downtown having a glut of empty office space. That's an irrelevant point anyway, I'm glad someone at the Dark Tower can make smart cuts. :-P |