Quote from Boren: "This will not greatly expand the seating capacity.”

So 3-5k is not out of the question

4k expansion. Puts the stadium at 86+ official. And 90k possible. Largest home crowd was ND 86k

I'd like to drop it back down to around 81K so I can get face value or better when I sell my extras. Thanks in advance.

I'd like to drop it back down to around 81K so I can get face value or better when I sell my extras. Thanks in advance.

Lol. As long as every seat sells it is good for OU. Would love for us to have 90k for big games.

Geez Boulder, I'm talking about what's good for ME.

I'd like to drop it back down to around 81K so I can get face value or better when I sell my extras. Thanks in advance.

LOL good luck with that. Face hasn't been routine in Norman for as long as I can remember, unless you're someone who just walks down to Campus Corner and buys from the first scalper you see. I've been buying on game day for 30 years and I've paid over face exactly twice.

That's another reason they aren't designing specifically to add capacity. There's plenty of that already.

LOL good luck with that. Face hasn't been routine in Norman for as long as I can remember, unless you're someone who just walks down to Campus Corner and buys from the first scalper you see. I've been buying on game day for 30 years and I've paid over face exactly twice.

That's another reason they aren't designing specifically to add capacity. There's plenty of that already.

Hey SD, sure looks I was 99% spot-on huh? ....all the way down to the BBQ. Boomer! Sooner! This keeps the OU monster fed and the dreams of champions for the next several generations. ;)

Here is another one that shows the new video board in the north end zone.

I suppose they'll just move the current one that is now in the south end.


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Now this Facility = Our Tradition !!!

Fox25 at 9, Rebecca Schleicher, just reported that "there won't be any more seats added" (?), but "they are going to increase the number of "bathrooms" from 7 to 50." I say...AMEN!!!

One aspect that I like is that it appears that this renovation would still make it fairly uncomplicated to, at some point in the future, add more double decking and suites in the end zones. I'm sure they were giving that some consideration in the design.

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Great view of what will be the new west upper decks and south end zone (left); now they will match the east upper decks.


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One aspect that I like is that it appears that this renovation would still make it fairly uncomplicated to, at some point in the future, add more double decking and suites in the end zones. I'm sure they were giving that some consideration in the design.

If expansion is ever needed a second deck in the north endzone would be the spot

Right, not only the weight / workout facilities but the coaches offices, the Switzer Center is open for tour and there is an academic center in the north endzone. And now, the club level is used for all types of events.

When I was in school there in the early 80's, the architecture library was in the north EZ; I was a development fanboy even then, frequently going by to read the magazines and books.

And in fact, there were *racquetball courts* on the east side of the stadium and the only way to get to them was to crawl through a small hatch door. Before Huston Huffman we even played intermurals on those courts.


I remember some classrooms where the concrete seat risers were visible...of course my labs were in the basement of the Old Science Hall and architecture was really scattered all over campus in the early 80's.

I remember some classrooms where the concrete seat risers were visible...of course my labs were in the basement of the Old Science Hall and architecture was really scattered all over campus in the early 80's.

I'm not sure where the current facilities are now but I spent many hours in the upper area of the west stadium in the OU band practice room in the late 60's.

I'm not sure where the current facilities are now but I spent many hours in the upper area of the west stadium in the OU band practice room in the late 60's.
I believe the architecture school moved into the former Gould Hall.

If expansion is ever needed a second deck in the north endzone would be the spot

Agree!

North end zone has its advantages since any upper deck additions would block off that sweeping north Oklahoma wind.


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I believe the architecture school moved into the former Gould Hall.

Actually I was talking about the band facilities.

Love it!! But I was a little upset when I read that their goal was to NOT increase seating capacity! That's more money!

Love it!! But I was a little upset when I read that their goal was to NOT increase seating capacity! That's more money!

The problem with adding seats to stadiums (especially one that already can hold 85,000-ish) is you are adding new worst seats in the house. People generally like that improvements will come but after they arrive then they get a tough choice pay more for the seats they have had, move to worse seats in their price range or just stop going. Adding 15,000 more seats would not even bring in close to what can be done with more suites and more tiers of premium seating, and it also cost a lot to build all the infrastructure to support the new cheapest seats.

Love it!! But I was a little upset when I read that their goal was to NOT increase seating capacity! That's more money!

Only if you fill them at the same price you filled your previous seats. In this case, they can actually making more money with the luxuary boxes.

Fox25 at 9, Rebecca Schleicher, just reported that "there won't be any more seats added" (?), but "they are going to increase the number of "bathrooms" from 7 to 50." I say...AMEN!!!

So all urinals? That won't make the females happy.

I am curious if they will end up moving the student section to open up those 50 yard line seats for higher paying donors.

So all urinals? That won't make the females happy.

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LOL good luck with that. Face hasn't been routine in Norman for as long as I can remember, unless you're someone who just walks down to Campus Corner and buys from the first scalper you see. I've been buying on game day for 30 years and I've paid over face exactly twice.

That's another reason they aren't designing specifically to add capacity. There's plenty of that already.
Actually I routinely got face for my extras in the early 2000s (post-championship, pre-eastside expansion). I can always buy lower than I sell, by the way. It just takes patience and the right sucker.

Sooooo...in the upper right hand corner of this morning's "The Oklahoman," it says, "OU Stadium Plans Get Green Light." And, inside, the Sports section says, "Plan Approved." Oh, shoot, I almost missed it. Back on the front page, there's an article that says, "Oklahoma Universities, Rising Tuition Costs - Who Could Pay More Next Year?" Hmmmmm...

Huh?

dankrutka...I just thought it was a bit funny. OU is a great university and they have one of thee best football programs in the country (I wish my "Gamecocks" had done as well as the "Sooners). I just wouldn't have put both articles in the same edition.

dankrutka...I just thought it was a bit funny. OU is a great university and they have one of thee best football programs in the country (I wish my "Gamecocks" had done as well as the "Sooners). I just wouldn't have put both articles in the same edition.

Not sure what you are getting at but the $370 will be 100% privately funded. Ou sports does get tax money for Oklahoma but actually gives the money to the university unlike some other universities in the state. Ou is one of the few self sustaining sports programs that creates a surplus every year.

Not sure what you are getting at but the $370 will be 100% privately funded. Ou sports does get tax money for Oklahoma but actually gives the money to the university unlike some other universities in the state. Ou is one of the few self sustaining sports programs that creates a surplus every year.

I think he gets that, but most people will probably link the two together, eventhough the two are not linked together...

I think he gets that, but most people will probably link the two together, eventhough the two are not linked together...

Exactly! Thank you, warreng88.

Hey SD, sure looks I was 99% spot-on huh? ....all the way down to the BBQ. Boomer! Sooner! This keeps the OU monster fed and the dreams of champions for the next several generations. ;)

Except for that whole part where you thought it would be expanded to 100,000...

Except for that whole part where you thought it would be expanded to 100,000...

No, you are wrong. That is the next phase ( N End , 2nd Level Add ).

warrneng, I even told you it would have BBQ and it does. You hate it when I am right.

No, you are wrong. That is the next phase ( N End , 2nd Level Add ).

warrneng, I even told you it would have BBQ and it does. You hate it when I am right.

So you see the future now? You see all the way into 2020 after the three phases are complete and they launch a new expansion project?

So you see the future now? You see all the way into 2020 after the three phases are complete and they launch a new expansion project?

last fall I told you all "exactly" what was coming. ....I even included the BBQ and many of you did not want to believe me ( you didn't like the messenger so you chose to not believe it).

Some of us are more connected in Norman, than others.

Now, let's move past this statement and go win some ball games & a few more NC's. Boomer!

last fall I told you all "exactly" what was coming. ....I even included the BBQ and many of you did not want to believe me ( you didn't like the messenger so you chose to not believe it).

Some of us are more connected in Norman, than others.

Now, let's move past this statement and go win some ball games & a few more NC's. Boomer!

Yes, what others have suggested also. Still going to be awhile before the stadium is 100,000 seats.

Looking back at the thread most were disagreeing with you about the 100,000 seats. Not the fan zone, press box, suites, or even BBQ. I don't know who is going to start an argument with you over BBQ. lol

I don't know who is going to start an argument with you over BBQ. lol

Well, slap my granny...if y'all wanna talk BBQ...

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Yes, what others have suggested also. Still going to be awhile before the stadium is 100,000 seats.

Looking back at the thread most were disagreeing with you about the 100,000 seats. Not the fan zone, press box, suites, or even BBQ. I don't know who is going to start an argument with you over BBQ. lol

jn, your play-by-play is not quite accurate either, but thanks. Seating was just a part of the conversation(s).

Just admit I was right and many of you were wrong...... hmmm??

Always remember that Football funds it all. ...isn't this Fanzone much better? ...it will be a beast to play in too!

Hey SD, sure looks I was 99% spot-on huh? ....all the way down to the BBQ. Boomer! Sooner! This keeps the OU monster fed and the dreams of champions for the next several generations. ;)

I thought sure you'd post a furious rage about them eternally condemning OU to second-tier status because we didn't go to 100K seats, considering that was your primary source of hysteria in that discussion.

Maybe Braums will open up a concession stand in the new south endzone.

...it will be a beast to play in too!

I haven't been to a University of South Carolina/Clemson Tiger football game since moving to OKC back in 1999. I used to love going to Williams-Brice Stadium in Columbia, SC...


http://www.williamsbrice.com/phase.php

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Tuition increase and stadium funding aren't related; in what world? That is like a person on food stamps buying cigarettes and saying they aren't related by arguing that they bought the cigarettes with their private funds and bought the milk with the public funds. OU can raise $400 million to improve a stadium but how much do they get in donations to keep tuition costs down?

Hey SD you're back. SD, I will say it like this. ( now take this as truth or not, but you can't say you weren't told ) We were placed 33 out of 50 stadiums in college football to see, and a primary ( factor ) was limited capacity and it just didn't equal the tradition.

There was a major "shift" in the direction of expansion and a new ( larger ) approach was then discussed. ...and SD, my primary (consideration) was not falling into the slippery slope of average ( 8-4 / 9-3 ) every year. The 100k seating was just 1 0f 10 things I told you then.

But football may not be your thing, you may want to stick with burgers.

Tuition increase and stadium funding aren't related; in what world? That is like a person on food stamps buying cigarettes and saying they aren't related by arguing that they bought the cigarettes with their private funds and bought the milk with the public funds. OU can raise $400 million to improve a stadium but how much do they get in donations to keep tuition costs down?

I'm not sure what the relationship is between this fundraising effort and academic fundraising because there are numerous factors, but here are some possible reasons why your assumptions are wrong:

First, yes, many people who donate would NOT donate to academics, or at least the same extent. A lot of this money wouldn't come to the university except for football fundraising. Second, private funding allows OU to be one of the only universities that has an athletic department that is not subsidized. In fact, athletics puts money back into academics. Projects like this are part of that. Third, the university often encourages donors to donate to academics also when they make donations to athletics. Finally, if you're looking at this holistically, football helps keep numerous alumni connected to the school in ways that lead to more donations overall, including academics.

So, I'm not sure you're correct. I'd have to study these possibilities, which I don't have time to do today. Maybe someone else knows...

^ so you agree they are related right?

Did I miss in any article where they said there was going to be BBQ? And that wouldn't be too bad of a guess because Billy Sims is a Heisman trophy winner from OU and happens to own a BBQ joint of the same name... And why does it really matter anyways? OU48A and Pete are really the only ones who knew something from the beginning and it all was correct. Although, I think OU48A initially said the south EZ was not going to be bowled in and that ended up happening.

State funding of University of Oklahoma academic pursuits amounts to fifteen percent of the total OU budget. Tuition increases, private donations and endowments and fees make up the rest.

ITEP In The News (http://itep.org/itep_in_the_news/2014/02/the-tulsa-world-ou-leader-slams-funding-cuts.php)

So you see the future now? You see all the way into 2020 after the three phases are complete and they launch a new expansion project?

Agree!

Eventually you'll see an expansion after 2020. Probably to bring the stadium in the 90,000 seat range.

It's a nice feather-in-your cap; however, I'm not completely sold on all of this hype about consecutive sellouts. Is there a trophy or reward for that? I realize many of you purchase your seats through that game day process with success. I had a bad experience with that process; you only need to be duped once to learn your lessen.

Fans need to be able to purchase tickets without having to complete transactions out on the streets or outside the stadium on game day. I'm not particular about seats, the live game day experience is my forte. Some tickets purchased are never used; the true 'Sooner born and Sooner bred' like myself & neighborhood friends who braved the cold and heat throughout our youth to cheer on the Sooners can't get tickets during the championship years. The fair weather fashion fans surface and manage to come out; they identify with this experience. When the team is in its rebuilding and losing years, these fans go into hibernation.

My fan experience dates back to taking the train into Norman and sitting on those old $2.00 general admission green south end zone bleacher seats. 'Flunking for Gaylord' (paper route) & pop bottles refund money generated enough funds to have a nice time at the old Stockyards Coliseum (wrestling) on Fridays and Owen Field on Saturdays.


Go Sooners!

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The proposed stadium pics have that classic look. A true 'Cathedral' of college football venues. Gaylord Family Oklahoma Memorial Stadium will continue to be among the finest venues throughout the college football world.


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Same amount of people, different layout. Think it will be much louder than it already is? Are the opposing teams going to stay on the east side of the south EZ and south end of the east side? Maybe just one of the corners?

Agree!

Eventually you'll see an expansion after 2020. Probably to bring the stadium in the 90,000 seat range.

It's a nice feather-in-your cap; however, I'm not completely sold on all of this hype about consecutive sellouts. Is there a trophy or reward for that? I realize many of you purchase your seats through that game day process with success. I had a bad experience with that process; you only need to be duped once to learn your lessen.

Lar, I've long ago realized the "consecutive sellouts" is a bit of well-intentioned creative fiction. There have been more than a couple of home games the last year or two where there clearly chunks of non-visitor seating that was unoccupied well into the game, but the game was deemed a "sellout." I strongly suspect there are a handful of key corporate sponsors that are solicited to "buy up" any small blocks of unsold home game tickets on short notice in exchange for some various promotional consideration, thus allowing OU to say the "sellout" streak continues. It's a bit like the "season ticket waiting list.." yeah, there is such a thing, but.....

How did you have a bad experience with game day ticket purchases? Just curious...


Fans need to be able to purchase tickets without having to complete transactions out on the streets or outside the stadium on game day. I'm not particular about seats, the live game day experience is my forte. Some tickets purchased are never used; the true 'Sooner born and Sooner bred' like myself & neighborhood friends who braved the cold and heat throughout our youth to cheer on the Sooners can't get tickets during the championship years. The fair weather fashion fans surface and manage to come out; they identify with this experience. When the team is in its rebuilding and losing years, these fans go into hibernation.

Oh, I dunno about that. Surveying the game-day ticket market has been part of the experience for me for a long time. I'd hate to see that dry up in some way. I will admit, however, that as I get a tad older (49 this year), I do see increased virtue in not spending quite so much of game day trolling the ticket folks and having a pair in-hand...but that virtue is offset when I realize how much more I pay for that privilege LOL :)

The one thing that I've enjoyed about not having season tickets is the luxury of sitting in lots of different places, plus the fact that my seating preference (either upper deck) leads to even more available secondary tickets as those are harder to sell (compared to lower-level seats, that is).



My fan experience dates back to taking the train into Norman and sitting on those old $2.00 general admission green south end zone bleacher seats. 'Flunking for Gaylord' (paper route) & pop bottles refund money generated enough funds to have a nice time at the old Stockyards Coliseum (wrestling) on Fridays and Owen Field on Saturdays.

My son pointed out to me last night that I will (God willing) have lived through four major stadium renovations - the west upper deck (STEP program), those loveable old green bleachers in the south endzone being replaced by the big, weird looking structure we have now, and then the east side double-decker setup...and now, this grand upgrade that just looks so awesome!! I just wish they'd start construction after THIS season, not next :( I want it all there NOW NOW NOW!!!



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The proposed stadium pics have that classic look. A true 'Cathedral' of college football venues. Gaylord Family Oklahoma Memorial Stadium will continue to be among the finest venues throughout the college football world.


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I just wish they'd start construction after THIS season, not next :( I want it all there NOW NOW NOW!!!

The plan is start after this season if they have the funding in place. You have to think the Gaylords will likely contribute a large sum to get this started, who else could be bigtime donors?

From NewsOK:

If forced to incrementally implement the plan, Castiglione said OU would first tackle the south end zone renovation, then the press box and then make smaller changes to the north and east sides of the stadium.

Boren said he hoped the work in the south end zone would be completed by the start of the 2016 season, with construction beginning after the upcoming season is completed.

The plan is start after this season if they have the funding in place. You have to think the Gaylords will likely contribute a large sum to get this started, who else could be bigtime donors?

From NewsOK:

Right. The south EZ and west upper deck would affect the seats, the north would not so that and several other things could go on all season.

University of Oklahoma is committed to a thorough process for renovation.


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Not one of those 'Frankenstein' stadium expansion-renovations, where the old clashes with the new:

Do you recognize these colossal colosseums with enormous end zone seats ?

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Glad OU they took their time for a well thought out renovation plan. This definitely should catch the eyes of young college football recruits.


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The plan is start after this season if they have the funding in place. You have to think the Gaylords will likely contribute a large sum to get this started, who else could be bigtime donors?

From NewsOK:



If forced to incrementally implement the plan, Castiglione said OU would first tackle the south end zone renovation, then the press box and then make smaller changes to the north and east sides of the stadium.

Boren said he hoped the work in the south end zone would be completed by the start of the 2016 season, with construction beginning after the upcoming season is completed.

Now that directly contradicts what I *personally* asked via Twitter of Kenny Mossman this afternoon:


David W @SoonerDEW
@Kenny_Mossman Kenny, could you clarify something...is OMS upgrade construction starting after *this* season or next??

@Kenny_Mossman
@SoonerDEW After the '15 season.

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Sooooo...in the upper right hand corner of this morning's "The Oklahoman," it says, "OU Stadium Plans Get Green Light." And, inside, the Sports section says, "Plan Approved." Oh, shoot, I almost missed it. Back on the front page, there's an article that says, "Oklahoma Universities, Rising Tuition Costs - Who Could Pay More Next Year?" Hmmmmm...

You do understand they are totally unrelated, right?

Same amount of people, different layout. Think it will be much louder than it already is? Are the opposing teams going to stay on the east side of the south EZ and south end of the east side? Maybe just one of the corners?

The best place for them is the upper east side. They have a great view of their slaughter and we won't have to hear them.

Sooooo...in the upper right hand corner of this morning's "The Oklahoman," it says, "OU Stadium Plans Get Green Light." And, inside, the Sports section says, "Plan Approved." Oh, shoot, I almost missed it. Back on the front page, there's an article that says, "Oklahoma Universities, Rising Tuition Costs - Who Could Pay More Next Year?" Hmmmmm...
This is the same inconsistency that local media is trying to gloss over. Just a few months after former football players came forward and admitted they weren't real college students (Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel). Yes more money to the football program, where an OU professor did research that showed up to 18% of athletes read at an elementary school level (http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/07/us/ncaa-athletes-reading-scores/). Football players are academic laughing stocks and cheapens the prestige of the university. Anyone who disagrees is kidding themselves. Now raise tuition so the heart of the university, the students, have to cover the costs of misallocation of investment. Shameful on Boren and all who enter Memorial Stadium.

This is the same inconsistency that local media is trying to gloss over. Just a few months after former football players came forward and admitted they weren't real college students (Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel). Yes more money to the football program, where an OU professor did research that showed up to 18% of athletes read at an elementary school level (http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/07/us/ncaa-athletes-reading-scores/). Football players are academic laughing stocks and cheapens the prestige of the university. Anyone who disagrees is kidding themselves. Now raise tuition so the heart of the university, the students, have to cover the costs of misallocation of investment. Shameful on Boren and all who enter Memorial Stadium.

LOL, I will continue to enter Memorial Stadium with pride. Talk about a laughing stock. Certainly there are many questionable athletes in every program but to lump a whole very successful athletic department into a pot with those which aren't is just a crock. I would challenge you to look Gabe Ikard in the eye and tell him he is a laughing stock. This is about the most unreasonable strident post I've seen here in ages.

Misallocation of investment? Where is the athletic department misallocating the donated and earned money which they are giving back to the University for academics? Nothing that happens in the OU athletic department has anything to do with any possible increases in student tuition.

You're repeating convenient lies. The stadium is owned and operated by OU, not the athletic department. Boren solicited donations personally from donors for this project, money that could go toward lowering tuition. The athletic department raises a negligible amount compared to the university itself.

You're repeating convenient lies. The stadium is owned and operated by OU, not the athletic department. Boren solicited donations personally from donors for this project, money that could go toward lowering tuition. The athletic department raises a negligible amount compared to the university itself.

You seem to miss the fact that donations don't lower tuition. It can be used to give out scholarships and grants to students to help them cover the cost of it, but it doesn't lower it. That's an important distinction.

You seem to miss the fact that donations don't lower tuition. It can be used to give out scholarships and grants to students to help them cover the cost of it, but it doesn't lower it. That's an important distinction.

Guys, a bit of friendly advice - don't even bother engaging LRO. That's what the ignore button is for. :)

Our university systems are turning into our high school systems. Priorities have gotten way out of whack. Now true, even if all of the stadium money was allocated to grants and scholarships the cost of tuition wouldn't go down. In fact, it would probably go up so as to totally consume the availability of the additional funds. The only way to reduce tuition costs is to eliminate student loans. Charging what people can afford to pay is the only way to keep prices in check. However, that isn't going to happen voluntarily, but it will happen when the education bubble pops.