You're right, UN. People can always cherry pick things in other cities and say "why can't we do that?" The totality of projects in OKC does outshine what's happening in many of our peer cities, however.

It's not jealousy because a bank built a headquarters in Boise, it's wondering why OKC's development doesn't seem to be as infectious as it appears to be in many other smaller cities, ala Boise, Omaha, Des Moines.

It's human nature to look at places less familiar and to assume there is more going on there because all the information is completely new to you.

I remember someone here recently posting about how Wichita's Old Town had a lot more restaurants and bars than Bricktown... I did a quick count and discovered Bricktown has twice as many. And in a larger sense, locals for some reason love to put down and discount Bricktown when outside visitors do nothing but rave and wish for something similar in their own communities.

One thing that works against impression in OKC is that we have SO many separate districts and therefore much of the development is spread across a lot of different areas. But good grief, just try and keep up with what is going on with one of them... I started to map out everything just on a mile of 23rd because there are about a dozen little projects underway or just completed. Deep Deuce has that many as well, and most on a pretty large scale. There is so much construction downtown you can barely navigate through it all.


I'm not picking on the poster I quote, just pointing out how when you live somewhere, the grass always seems to be greener. I can assure you as at least a partial outsider that by any measure there is a tremendous amount happening in OKC. I would even argue that no city near our size or smaller has more going on in totality.

OKC is considerably ahead of these cities in terms of current urban development. Even leaving out Devon, OKC has residential projects like Level, Edge, The Hill. The NBA is huge. Larger convention space than any of those cities, much more high rise momentum with many very likely vertical additions. As well as much closer to the street car.

Cities always look more impressive from the outside. I would be beside myself if Omaha was on OKC's development level right now. You guys have lots of complaints to make sure it gets done right, and rightfully so do it right the first time so there doesn't need to be another "urban renewal" in 25 years. But there is no denying the sheer scale of projects in OKC right now.

Great perspective and thanks for the reminders.

Really appreciate your participation on the forum in general.

One other thing because I think this is an important discussion...

There is the strong tendency here (and probably just plain human nature) to completely discount something as soon as it's done or nearly done.

Devon Tower isn't even finished and already people are talking like it's old news, completely in the past. Same with the Myriad Gardens. Virtually any city in the U.S. would KILL for either of those projects, which are both massive and world-class.

Remember how excited everyone was about Level?? Well, now it's mostly opened and nobody seems to care much any more.


Those most interested in development are insatiable, always looking for the next big project. I know, I feel it too... We (development obsessives) are also a chronically disappointed lot. Even when we finally get a big announcement, it's never big enough, cool enough, and certainly seems to take forever to happen. And even when something does pretty much measure up, we are very quick to sweep it aside in the constant search for what's next.

It appears I incited a small cyber riot with my unintentionally inflammatory comment. I in no way meant to discount or discredit some of the truly wonderful things going on in this city. It was a classic case of not seeing the forest for the trees. Pete makes an excellent point about those of us most interested in development being insatiable. Disappointment truly seems to reign supreme at times if you don't continue to think about the little things that are still ongoing. I probably should have just said that I really wish we had two or three more mid rises under construction.

One other thing because I think this is an important discussion...

There is the strong tendency here (and probably just plain human nature) to completely discount something as soon as it's done or nearly done.

Devon Tower isn't even finished and already people are talking like it's old news, completely in the past. Same with the Myriad Gardens. Virtually any city in the U.S. would KILL for either of those projects, which are both massive and world-class.

Remember how excited everyone was about Level?? Well, now it's mostly opened and nobody seems to care much any more.

Those most interested in development are insatiable, always looking for the next big project. I know, I feel it too... We (development obsessives) are also a chronically disappointed lot. Even when we finally get a big announcement, it's never big enough, cool enough, and certainly seems to take forever to happen. And even when something does pretty much measure up, we are very quick to sweep it aside in the constant search for what's next.

I think its more of we have not seen this type of development in OKC in a while and people are just excited and prideful of OKC. Before the year 2000, we could not even dream of developments like this, and now that they are coming, we want more, we want it to continue. We don't want to go back to the early 90's when there was no Bricktown, no Deep Deuce, no NBA.

Nonetheless, Oklahoma City is taking the right strides in becoming a great city, as long as we continue the momentum.

Updated photos of City Creek Center in Salt Lake:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7056/6866907752_3b05d9d4d7.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasoncameron/6866907752/)
City Creek Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasoncameron/6866907752/) by JasonCameron (http://www.flickr.com/people/jasoncameron/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7041/7013019659_abe19cd80f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasoncameron/7013019659/)
Fountain at City Creek (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasoncameron/7013019659/) by JasonCameron (http://www.flickr.com/people/jasoncameron/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7076/7390800878_727b43b08f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/7390800878/)
City Creek, Salt Lake City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/7390800878/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

Those look great G. Salt Lake is one of my favorite cities in all of the U.S.

Those look great G. Salt Lake is one of my favorite cities in all of the U.S.

I was actually was born and raised in the Salt Lake area. And one thing I remember as a kid, was how much time and effort was put into beautification of the city, they have great road infrastructure, parks, and architecture. Its a very clean, well kept city. I am actually going to take the family out there next Summer and I can't wait...

I was actually was born and raised in the Salt Lake area. And one thing I remember as a kid, was how much time and effort was put into beautification of the city, they have great road infrastructure, parks, and architecture. Its a very clean, well kept city. I am actually going to take the family out there next Summer and I can't wait...

I believe that. It's a beautiful city.

Well, our light rail system seems to be working out pretty well for them... ;)

Well, our light rail system seems to be working out pretty well for them... ;)

Thanks to Istook and his Mormon cohorts in Salt Lake..

I have been tracking this development for a while now and glad its coming to fruition, great 44 story addition to the Milwaukee skyline:

http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/blog/real_estate/2012/07/county-committee-supports-abeles.html

http://www.biztimes.com/storyimage/MB/20120725/ENEWSLETTERS06/120729915/TS/1/TS-120729915.jpg&q=100&maxw=350&maxh=255

I have been tracking this development for a while now and glad its coming to fruition, great 44 story addition to the Milwaukee skyline:

http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/blog/real_estate/2012/07/county-committee-supports-abeles.html

http://www.biztimes.com/storyimage/MB/20120725/ENEWSLETTERS06/120729915/TS/1/TS-120729915.jpg&q=100&maxw=350&maxh=255

That would be pretty nice on the Stage Center site.....

Yes, that Milwaukee project would be a big hotel with condos above.

I really think that would be the highest and best use of the Stage Center site.

I have been tracking this development for a while now and glad its coming to fruition, great 44 story addition to the Milwaukee skyline:

http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/blog/real_estate/2012/07/county-committee-supports-abeles.html

http://www.biztimes.com/storyimage/MB/20120725/ENEWSLETTERS06/120729915/TS/1/TS-120729915.jpg&q=100&maxw=350&maxh=255

Is that their Gold Coast?

I like following development in cities that are up and coming, that haven't made it there just yet. Following development in cities like New York, LA, Chicago, Miami, Dallas, etc just isn't fair, lol. I like following development in cities like OKC, Salt Lake City, Omaha, Nashville, etc....

Nashville just keeps coming out with the projects, they are on a roll:

http://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/blog/2012/08/nashville-developer-wants-to-build.html

New/Proposed Nashville Downtown Developments:

The Pinnacle (2010)

http://assets.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2010/11/02/PinnacleTower2.jpg?v=1

The Encore (2008)

http://www.nashvilledowntown.com/_files/images/encore-small.jpg

The Sobro (2014)

https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRDAU1TZplXRf9ybsx-L0dW9jwlbj8rsxr6UPGABQBEtoGXl545Pw

Giarratana Skyscraper (2015)

https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRGyb2dRhlGS4ixVvu2n2WAvlST2iP_Q GJ4Fntba84rhfuSC1w7GQ

Omni Convention Center Hotel (2013)

http://wkrn.images.worldnow.com/images/14318479_BG2.jpg

New Convention Center (2013)

http://gointocmafest.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Music-City-Center.jpg

The Sobro (Update)

Site work done for proposed SoBro skyscraper | nashvillepost.com (http://nashvillepost.com/blogs/postbusiness/2013/2/8/site_work_done_for_proposed_sobro_skyscraper)

New residential tower planned for downtown Nashville:

Dunn lands $60M contract to build Gulch tower | nashvillepost.com (http://nashvillepost.com/blogs/postbusiness/2012/12/31/dunn_lands_60m_contract_to_build_gulch_tower)

http://nashvillepost.com/sites/default/files/attachments/72613/Hensler_rendering_092112.jpg

Nashville's downtown is awesome. That is a downtown, development wise, that I wish OKC could emulate more.

Yes, Nashville is booming right now...they are right behind Austin & Charlotte when it comes to urban development.

New residential tower planned for downtown Nashville:

Dunn lands $60M contract to build Gulch tower | nashvillepost.com (http://nashvillepost.com/blogs/postbusiness/2012/12/31/dunn_lands_60m_contract_to_build_gulch_tower)

http://nashvillepost.com/sites/default/files/attachments/72613/Hensler_rendering_092112.jpg

It would make me shiver with excitement if something similar was built in OKC. I don't know if OKC could support something like this at the moment, but within the next couple of years I think we could.

It would make me shiver with excitement if something similar was built in OKC. I don't know if OKC could support something like this at the moment, but within the next couple of years I think we could.

Actually, other than being mostly glass, that looks very much like the Regency Tower.

Actually, other than being mostly glass, that looks very much like the Regency Tower.

You know, that was actually the first thing that came to my mind when I saw it for the first time. It's probably just the way the renderings make it pop, but it would just be a welcoming addition architecturally if there was an all/mostly glass residential tower here of similar size to the Regency Tower.

Tishman, China Vanke to Build 655-Unit San Francisco Condo Tower

Tishman, China Vanke to Build 655-Unit San Francisco Condo Tower | Commercial Property Executive (http://www.cpexecutive.com/regions/west/tishman-china-vanke-to-build-655-unit-san-francisco-condo-tower)

http://www.cpexecutive.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/201-Folsom.jpg

Not quite downtown but close to it. The Rincon Hill area of San Francisco being a former industrial area that's now turning into residential.

Not good for Tulsa...I am beginning to hate Houston...

Fuel Fix » BHP Billiton to expand in Houston, lease new tower (http://fuelfix.com/blog/2013/02/25/bhp-billiton-to-expand-in-houston-lease-new-office-tower/)

BHP Billiton Petroleum said Monday it will hire hundreds of new employees and lease a 30-story office tower to be built at 1500 Post Oak Blvd. to accommodate its expanding shale business and future growth.

Construction is expected to start later this year on the new building, which will be connected to the company’s current headquarters at 1360 Post Oak Blvd, creating a two-tower campus. A glass skybridge will connect the structures.

The buildings will house several thousand BHP employees, many still to be hired. Some 1,800 existing BHP employees will office there, including workers in other locations. Employees in downtown’s Wells Fargo Tower and a building in Tulsa, Okla. will relocate to the Post Oak headquarters.

Better article:

BHP expands in Uptown with new office tower - Houston Chronicle (http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/BHP-expands-in-Uptown-with-new-officer-tower-4307773.php)

http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/20/15/45/4249977/5/premium_article_portrait.jpg

How can Houston continue to build new towers and their oil companies expand relentlessly and ours just lease around town (excluding Devon)? Are our companies that much smaller than Houston's?

How can Houston continue to build new towers and their oil companies expand relentlessly and ours just lease around town (excluding Devon)? Are our companies that much smaller than Houston's?

No offense, but where have you been? Devon, Chesapeake, SandRidge, Chapparal, Mustang, Continental, Gulfport, etc. all own their space, and with the exception of CRT have expanded.

Do you not think that no energy company in Houston leases? I'm sure the vast majority do. The are some big majors down there, but in both Houston and OKC the average E&P or service firm is small and probably can just lease its space.

If you really put it into perspective, Oklahoma City only has two major Fortune 500 companies and that is Devon and Chesapeake, which both have expanded tremendously in recent years. In comparison, Houston is a energy sector hot bed home to the largest oil and gas companies in the U.S. Houston has the second highest number of Fortune 500 companies, only behind New York City, and a majority of those companies have some direct or indirect relation to the oil & gas industry.

adaniel, perhaps I should have asked my question differently as it did come off kind of whiny, but when I visit Houston, their energy companies seem to have much more "presence" in Houston than say Chaparral, Gulfport and Mustang have here. Do you disagree? Are OG companies in Houston that much bigger than Chaparral, Gulfport, Mustang? To be honest, I've never heard of Mustang and only occasionally see the first two mentioned in business blurbs in the Oklahoman. Are they small?

I am not adaniel, but i can answer your question...yes companies like Mustang, Chaparral, etc... are a lot smaller, maybe couple hundred employees. Big oil companies in Houston like ExxonMobil, ConocoPhillips, BP, BHP, have thousands of employees. ExxonMobil is so big in Houston, you could put Devon in ExxonMobil, and no one would even notice, lol, try 10,000 employees on one campus, wow.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2012/12/04/a-birds-eye-view-of-exxons-giant-new-houston-complex/

I mean, Exxon is only the 2nd largest and most profitable [company] in the entire world...

[Thanks Praedura...that was a pretty bad gaffe]

I mean, Exxon is only the 2nd largest and most profitable country in the entire world...

I would call it a company myself... but I catch your drift.
:wink:

Devon may become one of the big boys too -- eventually, if they keep growing and continue to conduct their business in a sound, prudent manner as they have in the past.

adaniel, perhaps I should have asked my question differently as it did come off kind of whiny, but when I visit Houston, their energy companies seem to have much more "presence" in Houston than say Chaparral, Gulfport and Mustang have here. Do you disagree? Are OG companies in Houston that much bigger than Chaparral, Gulfport, Mustang? To be honest, I've never heard of Mustang and only occasionally see the first two mentioned in business blurbs in the Oklahoman. Are they small?

Yes, I would say most companies in Houston are as a whole much bigger than what you would see in OKC. If Houston acts as a hub of the energy business similar to what San Jose/Silicon Valley is to IT, then we are at best an Austin; an important but smaller secondary hub of industry. That's okay though, 200 jobs here has the same effect as 1,000 jobs down there. Because the shale boom is largely centered in the US, it is increasingly unnecessary for a lot of companies that work exclusively in these areas to have operations in Houston, which is why OKC, Pittsburgh, Denver, etc. are seeing their OG jobs go up. In this light I do not see why Tulsa cannot hold on to its OG companies.

I'm not sure I understand your point about oil companies having more of a presence there than here. Tit for tat I don't see much of a difference. Everywhere I turn I feel like Devon, CHK, SandRidge, etc. has its name plastered on something. The smaller companies simply don't have the resources to do the same though. They still provide lots of high paying jobs and their activities are certainly felt in this area's economy. Also, understand you are comparing a metro area of 1.3 million to one of 6.1 million. Apples and oranges.

I mean, Exxon is only the 2nd largest and most profitable [company] in the entire world...



Actually Exxon- Mobil is now the world's largest publically traded company as determined by market cap.


XOM’s market cap dwarfs the market cap of all Oklahoma based oil and gas companies combined.

If XOM spun off its chemical company division it would be the largest chemical company in the free world.

They have a huge Houston work force but the company is headquartered are in the Dallas metro area in Irving.
I have a relative that played an important part in recruiting XOM from New York City to the Dallas area. It was very interesting.
I have been following the company closely since about 1980 when the Exxon CEO came and spoke to a class I was attending at OU.

Actually Exxon- Mobil is now the world's largest publically traded company as determined by market cap.

As of a few minutes ago, Apple had XOM beaten by about $23B. Subject to change, though

As of a few minutes ago, Apple had XOM beaten by about $23B. Subject to change, though


You are right.
XOM price has dropped enough in recent days to make its CAP fall below AAPL

I don't understand how Austin can just keep putting out tower after tower after tower. The city is growing so fast, its remarkable. They are rated high on pretty much every list that comes out, always at the top in population growth, its just crazy how this city is developing, they are the only city I know that is seeing astonishing development and growth and they don't even have a pro-franchise....#AmazingAustin:

Amid building boom, first of several new apartment towers... | www.statesman.com (http://www.statesman.com/news/business/amid-building-boom-first-of-several-new-apartment-/nXB97/)

I don't understand how Austin can just keep putting out tower after tower after tower. The city is growing so fast, its remarkable. They are rated high on pretty much every list that comes out, always at the top in population growth, its just crazy how this city is developing, they are the only city I know that is seeing astonishing development and growth and they don't even have a pro-franchise....#AmazingAustin:

Amid building boom, first of several new apartment towers... | www.statesman.com (http://www.statesman.com/news/business/amid-building-boom-first-of-several-new-apartment-/nXB97/)

Those players are paid and you know it!!!!! :wink:

But seriously...Austin is going to struggle to get a pro franchise because of how close they are to Dallas and San Antonio. They'll get one if they really push for it, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're not clamoring for one.

They are unique in this area of the country and will probably end up being the most sustainable city around here in the long run, as they have found just an amazing balance in their economy, developed practical development standards, and wield a lot of power.

I don't understand how Austin can just keep putting out tower after tower after tower. The city is growing so fast, its remarkable. They are rated high on pretty much every list that comes out, always at the top in population growth, its just crazy how this city is developing, they are the only city I know that is seeing astonishing development and growth and they don't even have a pro-franchise....#AmazingAustin:

Amid building boom, first of several new apartment towers... | www.statesman.com (http://www.statesman.com/news/business/amid-building-boom-first-of-several-new-apartment-/nXB97/)

Could it be people are actually moving to Austin the city rather than a suburb? It seems most people move to OKC because of a job and usually not the city itself. These people often end up living in Edmond, Mustang, Moore. or Norman and very few live in downtown OKC. We are making progress in this, but Austin itself is the primary draw and employment often secondary. So the demand for more housing exists in Austin proper, and the surrounding suburbs, is inverse to OKC present development pattern. We haven't reached the tipping point of making downtown OKC more attractive than our suburbs to large numbers of incoming residents yet. I think we are seeing the beginning of the trend but we have a ways to go before OKC proper matches the desirabilility of Austin and in turn the demand for housing.

What amazes me most about that story are the rental rates. Average of $2300 per month? The one mentioned that was in the $3000s and the occupants don't have lawyer/doctor level professions. The target seems to be young-ish people. And we're not talking about NYC. For all it's dynamism, it's still a southwestern/Plains city. Speaks well for OKC possibilities if we can get the mix right.

Could it be people are actually moving to Austin the city rather than a suburb? It seems most people move to OKC because of a job and usually not the city itself. These people often end up living in Edmond, Mustang, Moore. or Norman and very few live in downtown OKC. We are making progress in this, but Austin itself is the primary draw and employment often secondary. So the demand for more housing exists in Austin proper, and the surrounding suburbs, is inverse to OKC present development pattern. We haven't reached the tipping point of making downtown OKC more attractive than our suburbs to large numbers of incoming residents yet. I think we are seeing the beginning of the trend but we have a ways to go before OKC proper matches the desirabilility of Austin and in turn the demand for housing.

You must not be familiar with the huge high tech job growth there. And their suburbs are also growing quickly. With UT being downtown, the state offices being there, and the explosion of high tech, As well as having a vibrant lifestyle, it is no wonder downtown is growing. Would love to see what OKC downtown would be like if you dropped 2 or 3 OUs a few blocks away...that's what UT is.

I am not terribly familiar with Austin. I drove through once over nearly twenty years ago and about all I recall is seeing UT and being surprised it was so close to downtown. I know Round Rock has several tech companies but I wasn't sure about the proximity to Austin downtown. Does Dell have as large a presence now? I think OKC is moving in the right direction and one day our downtown could be the same draw Austin is now.

UT is pretty much Heritage Hills/Mesta Park...except I think slightly bigger, with at least 30,000 more people living in the area.

According to Google, Round Rock is about the same distance as Norman.

Think about it this way: If Austin manages to keep 30% of the UT students that start school in Austin, that's 15k people/year. (Now they probably don't keep *that* many...but they probably don't do too bad either).

Make no mistake. UT makes a profound difference in that city.

Austin had a slow down on residential towers during the downturn, financing was difficult to get so many projects went on hold. It started picking up around the time I moved to Denver in the fall of 2011. Most of the newer, taller towers have been built since I had moved down there in 2003. The Dell campus in Round Rock is on the east side of I-35 around Parmer Lane, they have sold off quite a few buildings as they have downsized the local operations there over the years.

The UT campus had a chance to move in 1909 from the original "40 Acres" to the Brackenridge Tract along the river (now Lady Bird/Town Lake in West Austin) when the Brackenridge family donated 500 acres to the university along with plans for the Pease family to donate an adjacent 500 acres to create a 1,000 acre campus. This campus would have been just to the west of Mopac & 24th Street. The Pease family declined but Colonel Brackenridge went ahead with his portion. Through politics it was decided not to move the campus, many Austin leaders felt that it was "too far out of town" and the campus was never moved.

UT Brackenridge Tract - Erwin History (http://www.utbracktract.com/files/erwinhistory.pdf)

#EmbraceCharlotte

http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/perfect-charlotte-skyline-clear-sky-images.jpg

^^Charlotte is my favorite boom city even though the unemployment there is quite bad.

Seaholm redevelopment ready to break ground at last | www.statesman.com (http://www.statesman.com/news/business/seaholm-redevelopment-ready-to-break-ground-at-las/nXMzM/)

Glad to see this site finally redeveloped, its a long time in the making, good for downtown Austin, and a downtown Trader Joe's is part of this project, nice.

Seaholm redevelopment ready to break ground at last | www.statesman.com (http://www.statesman.com/news/business/seaholm-redevelopment-ready-to-break-ground-at-las/nXMzM/)

Glad to see this site finally redeveloped, its a long time in the making, good for downtown Austin, and a downtown Trader Joe's is part of this project, nice.
Some former co-workers were trying to get me to follow them over to STG to work on the Seaholm project, sent a resume over and talked to some people there. One of them is heavily involved in the project having been dedicated to it since it started for them. Then we decided we were tired of the 8 months of summer heat in Austin and I got a job here in Denver. If I hadn't of found a job up here (not the first time that I had interviewed in Denver) then I would have probably gone to STG and be on that project now. It is a pretty impressive project.

Jacksonville is on a similar roll around downtown. A new 310 unit complex was annouced this morning and it will include a national grocery chain featuring 'natural' foods. It is next door to another residential complex that broke ground a few months ago. Combined they will have over 500 units.

New mixed development next to 220 Riverside in final approval stage | jacksonville.com (http://jacksonville.com/business/2013-04-19/story/new-mixed-development-next-220-riverside-final-approval-stage)

I really don't understand how Austin can keep pushing out tower after tower, this is borderline ridiculous, wow.

Proposed project: 3 downtown towers, one up to 65 stories | www.mystatesman.com (http://www.mystatesman.com/news/business/proposed-project-3-downtown-towers-one-up-to-65-st/nXdk3/)

There was a lull in tower construction there after August 2008 until just recently with these new ones starting back up. We had several (smaller) downtown projects just stop at the end of 2008 because of the economy with no hope of starting back up even when I left there in 2011-12. Part of it is driven by the in-migration of 11,000 people monthly on average.

There was a lull in tower construction there after August 2008 until just recently with these new ones starting back up. We had several (smaller) downtown projects just stop at the end of 2008 because of the economy with no hope of starting back up even when I left there in 2011-12. Part of it is driven by the in-migration of 11,000 people monthly on average.

Wow...

I thought some of you might find this article interesting.

Arbus Magazine May/June 2013 (http://www.mydigitalpublication.com/publication/?i=153472&p=22)

New office tower for Salt Lake City:

http://111southmain.com/renderings.html

Recent skyline shot of Dallas (taken about a month ago):

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2824/9039968144_53064edb90_h.jpg

Photo by Mike Mezeul II

Source: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikemezphoto/9039968144/

Their skyline is not all that different from ours. Just a lot more towers. :(

New office tower for Salt Lake City:

Renderings (http://111southmain.com/renderings.html)

Cool looking tower. Man, Salt Lake City just keeps on jammin.