My observation is that they don't work well massed together. Nightclubs help add time-diversity to any neighborhood but problems seem to start when a neighborhood has more than 1. This is what Bricktown is experiencing now as it transition from Bricktown Entertainment District to Bricktown Neighborhood.What? There is only one residential project going on here, am I correct? Also, Bricktown still is an entertainment district seeing as the majority of its venues are to entertain and feed people :p

It will be interesting to see what will happen to the area across the street from the new Hilton Garden Inn (Club Albee, Wormy Dog, Candy) once the Steelyard apartments are built and more life is brought to eastern area of BT. I would love to see more of Tapwerks and Club One15 than dance clubs personally.

What? There is only one residential project going on here, am I correct? Also, Bricktown still is an entertainment district seeing as the majority of its venues are to entertain and feed people :p

As the neighborhood matures, it will become more mixed use. We are seeing the beginning stages of that now. It will be bad for certain types of nightlife but overall good for the district, creating increased vibrancy and traffic during more hours of the day.

What? There is only one residential project going on here, am I correct? Also, Bricktown still is an entertainment district seeing as the majority of its venues are to entertain and feed people :p

Everybody forgets the Centennial...

Night clubs are hard on buildings and other tenants. City Walk has had its share of problems the last few years.

I understood that the City Walk people are the ones that opened Candy (I'm not positive on that) and had shifted their main focus to that. City Walk was only going to be around until the end of their lease anyway

The City Walk people are being compensated with a buyout. It might be a win-win for both parties

With the hotel coming opening soon and now this, its probably time for that corner to move away from a night club. I don't think Coco Flow will have any issues staying


Thank you for the update. I didn't know all these details. Makes tons of sense.

I guess all of this might explain why there was a push to build a parking garage on the old railroad tracks a few months ago. I wonder what the status is on that project proposal?

I guess all of this might explain why there was a push to build a parking garage on the old railroad tracks a few months ago. I wonder what the status is on that project proposal?

It's still in the works.

It's an active project between Don Karchmer and the Economic Development trust, they are just trying to figure out how to work around preserving future rail right-of-way.

I think it's still going to happen. All of downtown is desperate for parking.

Coco Flow is there now and is open 10-10.

There has also been some talk about a Brazilian steakhouse.

Texas de Brazil?

Pete, has there been any discussion about the adjoining (and connected) low building on Main? It is currently a part of City Walk, and I assume a part of this development. You could place a pretty large restaurant in it; in fact I recall a restaurant was in there for a short time in the nineties but can't recall what it was.

I can't say I am thrilled with the glass façade on the east side. I would prefer they just make the east side look like the west side. I'm also going to ding them for a lack of sidewalk awnings. So with that in mind - it gets 4.25 stars (out of 5) on the JTF scale.

Texas de Brazil?

Texas De Brazil has announced it will go into Penn Square Mall. Not sure they would open a second location in BT this soon, but I could be wrong.

I'd rather have a Fogo de Chao.

^^^^^

Totally agree. I'm not pining for more (or any) chains to move in, but I do love Fogo de Chao and it would make a nice upscale-ish addition to downtown.

I can't say I am thrilled with the glass façade on the east side. I would prefer they just make the east side look like the west side. I'm also going to ding them for a lack of sidewalk awnings. So with that in mind - it gets 4.25 stars (out of 5) on the JTF scale.

I agree about the facade. The glass on the Braniff works because the CBD has a lot of glass, and it just really works well.

Bricktown doesn't have that mixture of architecture styles, and I don't think this style really works in this area.

These are hi-res renderings from Rogers Partners website.

Shows the small building to the east will be included:



http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/7368d1397228543-mideke-building-tapstone1.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/7369d1397228544-mideke-building-tapstone2.jpg

I've gotta say I like that glass wall on the east. They are removing bricks from inside of each bay and exposing and highlighting the skeleton of the structure rather than removing a full brick veneer. I know it is a subtle difference, but I would have been more troubled if it were a full brick veneer being removed. Worst-case scenario from an HP standpoint is that the bays could be bricked back in if there ever was a desire to return to the historic, and it solves a real problem for them related to (lack of) light. It is also without question a tertiary façade, with the primary and secondary remaining fully intact. Don't remember if they were still pursuing historic tax credits, so not sure if this would cause a problem or not. I'm super-excited about this project.

Right, that east facade is nothing nice or detailed and the glass is a great way to open things up, expose the structure, and bring in light.

The Braniff Building has demonstrated this combination of brick plus modern can be pretty stunning.

http://www.midekesupply.com/image/mideke-supply-building2010.jpg

The glass curtainwall on an old building is much more palatable when they retain most of the original structure and apply the modern design away from the building front.

Bricktown is also becoming as much office as restaurant/entertainment. This, the Plow, Advanced Academics, the Zio's bldg, Long Wave, Sonic, the architecture firm on Main, ACOG, Standley, and the building across Main from there.

Since all of that - how much housing has been added to the mix?

Very little. The biggest gaping hole in Bricktown's growth without a doubt. That's why The Steelyard is so important.

Regarding the Brazilian steakhouse, my understanding is that they had a letter of intent with Texas de Brazil. Don't know what happened but now that TdB has announced they are going to Penn Square Mall, it's pretty certain they won't open in the Mideke as well. They typically only open one location in a market, even in much bigger cities like Houston and San Antonio.

I believe Coco Flow will stay but the rest of the ground floor of both the main and small building to the east will be leased for retail/restaurant. Between the two, there is a lot of space on the ground level.

Yeah, if Bricktown (or really any downtown district) gets a chain, it would really be best if it is a destination place with no other locations in the metro.

This was from 3/5:


I just heard from a very good source that Tapstone is indeed going into this building.

Don't think they will be taking the ground floor, but will take most the rest of the building.

Knowing Tom Ward, they will create a very nice space for the new company.

This was from 3/7:


Steve pretty clearly stated in his chat this morning that reports of Tapstone going into this building are incorrect.

Now this is what Steve said in his chat yesterday, 4/18:


I broke the story on the Tapstone Energy/Mideke building project two weeks ago.

Steve must have a pretty narrow definition of "breaking a story":lol2:

Lol

Detailed plans for this building have been revealed.

Tapstone will be taking the top three floors plus the small 1-story building to the east. The East building will be the main entrance to their offices and have a private parking garage.

The 1st floor will be split between tenants; unsure if Coco Flow is staying but it looks likely.

2nd floor will be divided up for office tenants; certainly to be used for future expansion as Tapstone grows.

3rd & 4th floors will be for general Tapstone offices. 5th floor will be all private offices with a large office in the NE corner with a private bath (no doubt for Tom Ward). 5th floor will also include an atrium that is open to the sky above.



North Elevation:
http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/7773d1399484987-mideke-building-tapstone3.jpg


South Elevation:
http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/7774d1399484987-mideke-building-tapstone4.jpg


West Elevation:
http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/7775d1399484988-mideke-building-tapstone5.jpg


East Building (1 Floor):
http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/7772d1399484986-mideke-building-east.jpg


West Building 1st Floor:
http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/7767d1399484982-mideke-building-1st.jpg


West Building 2nd Floor:
http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/7768d1399484983-mideke-building-2nd.jpg


West Building 3rd Floor:
http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/7769d1399484984-mideke-building-3rd.jpg


West Building 4th Floor:
http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/7770d1399484985-mideke-building-4th.jpg


West Building 5th Floor:
http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/7771d1399484985-mideke-building-5th.jpg

Is the private parking going to be that parking lot to the east of their main office entrance or will they build a multi level parking structure?


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There will be a few private parking spaces inside the building.

They do not have any surface parking or other adjacent property to build a structure.

This was included in the marketing packet:

http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/7777d1399487348-mideke-building-midekepark.jpg

That lot north of this area really needs to be turned into structured parking. Hopefully Karchmer's proposal works out for all parties.

So is CityWalk for sure closing? When is it supposed to happen?

FYI the staff recommendation is to deny the renovation of the east side of this building (glass) and the glass staircase.

I'm actually kind of happy about that ^

I didn't like the look too much, I did think the glass on the Holiday Inn across the street was appropriate, however.

They have already made a preliminary presentation to the design committee and they loved it.

I'm sure the design will easily pass.

So is CityWalk for sure closing? When is it supposed to happen?

Don't tell me you're gonna miss S$&@@y Walk...


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Part of the lease deal with Tapstone was the buyout of the CityWalk lease.

Not sure when they are leaving but I'm sure it won't be until the developers have all the necessary permits and are ready to start construction.

They have already made a preliminary presentation to the design committee and they loved it.

I'm sure the design will easily pass.

I love it, too.

Citywalk sure wasn't closed Saturday night. Good golly it was crazy around it. Didn't go in, was just around and noticed.

Citywalk sure wasn't closed Saturday night. Good golly it was crazy around it. Didn't go in, was just around and noticed.

It's definitely not closing because of lack of business but rather because it will be converted to office space for Tapstone. I wonder if they will reopen somewhere else or simply go away?

It's definitely not closing because of lack of business but rather because it will be converted to office space for Tapstone. I wonder if they will reopen somewhere else or simply go away?

As much as that club is derided, it has lasted forever. Must be a nightclub record for OKC.

I used to buy supplies and tools at Mideke in the 70s, maybe the early 80s. It didn't seem like a comfortable place to work.
Half the visible materials in the Bricktown renovations came from my steel yard in Norman when Jim Brewer bought all the materials at auction.

As much as that club is derided, it has lasted forever. Must be a nightclub record for OKC.

A lot of big-name, national DJs have played there. If there is one club in Bricktown I would say I am somewhat disappointed to see go, its CityWalk.

A lot of big-name, national DJs have played there. If there is one club in Bricktown I would say I am somewhat disappointed to see go, its CityWalk.

You have NO clue what so ever to what a "big name national DJ" is if you think they play at city walk, more opinion facts by you, shocking...

Tiesto was there and so was Oakenfold and Paul van Dyk. I would consider them big name.

You have NO clue what so ever to what a "big name national DJ" is if you think they play at city walk, more opinion facts by you, shocking...

Wow. Please consider kindness.

Tiesto was there and so was Oakenfold and Paul van Dyk. I would consider them big name.

When was Tiesto, PvD, at city walk..?

Tiesto was there and so was Oakenfold and Paul van Dyk. I would consider them big name.

The last big name DJs to play in OKC was moby not at City Walk, Kaskade, not at city walk. Derude, not at city walk. Do you see a trend? 12th planet not at city walk.

Tiesto was there and so was Oakenfold and Paul van Dyk. I would consider them big name.

Rev Run did a DJ set there a couple of years ago, which I attended. Not the same wheelhouse as those guys, but all are certainly big names in music. The fact that there haven't been any lately doesn't diminish what Chris said, namely "a lot of big-name, national DJs have played there..." It is a 100% accurate statement. It's no different than saying U2, the Replacements and R.E.M. played in the basement below what is now McNellie's at Plaza Court. Just because it won't happen again doesn't change the fact that it happened.

Regarding Moby, he wouldn't have played ANY club date in OKC. He was booked strictly as a part of the ACM@UCO music festival and as a masters class subject.

It's no different than saying U2, the Replacements and R.E.M. played in the basement below what is now McNellie's at Plaza Court. Just because it won't happen again doesn't change the fact that it happened.


What I would give to have seen any of those shows. McNellie's has a basement? Why don't they use it?

Rev Run did a DJ set there a couple of years ago, which I attended. Not the same wheelhouse as those guys, but all are certainly big names in music. The fact that there haven't been any lately doesn't diminish what Chris said, namely "a lot of big-name, national DJs have played there..." It is a 100% accurate statement. It's no different than saying U2, the Replacements and R.E.M. played in the basement below what is now McNellie's at Plaza Court. Just because it won't happen again doesn't change the fact that it happened.

Regarding Moby, he wouldn't have played ANY club date in OKC. He was booked strictly as a part of the ACM@UCO music festival and as a masters class subject.

Okay whats your point? The beach boys and alan jackson, etc. played at All sports stadium too. I guess that makes it one of our best venues of all time, right? And your point about Moby actually coincides with what I was saying, OKC gets very few big name DJs, to just come play...You guys can't think of a big timer who has played City walk in the last 3 years (besides Rev Run), yet still want to argue... Besides the Tiesto, PvD, and Oakenfold, are international DJs not nationally, so kudos to City Walk for getting them, back in the day.

The whole building has a basement. In the 60s there was a go-go club down there. When they came in in the 80s to put in the original Bowery, there were still "birdcages" for the go-go dancers. There have been some great articles in the Gazette about the original Bowery days in the basement of that building, and some amazing punk acts played there before it closed. Later the Bowery II opened in the old church on Classen, which later became clubs like Pandaemonium, Infinity and King of Clubs. I saw Violent Femmes in the old church, but I was too young and/or lived elsewhere during the O.G. Bowery days. Would have loved to have seen those shows myself.

When was Tiesto, PvD, at city walk..?

Tiesto came in October of 2008. I remember because I was there. They brought him in cause ticket sales for PVD were impressive but the numbers for Tiesto were astonishing. He sold out in something like 3 days. I got my tickets through his website for $25 apiece...

How is 2008 back in the day? Lol


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Lil Jon was here what felt like recently. Jonathan Davis (lead singer of Korn) guest DJ's and did a set at Citywalk, I am told. Pauly D from the Jersey Shore is a DJ and he did a set back in 2011.

As expected, the Bricktown Design Review Committee passed the design in today's meeting.

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Are they covering up or replacing the brick? A lot of these places use brick that can't be recreated so hopefully they store it somewhere.

Are they covering up or replacing the brick? A lot of these places use brick that can't be recreated so hopefully they store it somewhere.Just curious, why can't it be recreated? Is there some special mix they used we aren't sure how to replicate or something?

You can recreate brick but the weathering and mixtures make it tricky. Its like having two brothers that everyone says looks identical. No matter how much people think they do; you can always see the differences when they are side by side

Also older buildings are often made with clay bricks which aren't usually used these days in new construction, right? And I'm under the impression there are companies that recover clay bricks from old building demos and resell them because it's more cost prohibitive to make clay bricks these days?

$4 million building permit application was filed today.

Will be interesting to see when City Walk closes down. Should be soon.

CityWalk closed 3 days ago.

http://muvemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/20140531-135842-50322820.jpg

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Thanks!

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