I don't know anymore, in todays world women are more confusing than ever. But if they want to be treated badly then they can live with it, I for one won't put up with nor endorse that behavior myself. I treat my women with respect like it should be done and yet I can't seem to have any women that will want to be around me. HHHMMM what has the world come to. May be I need lots of money or drive a exspensive car or who knows what it is that works.

I dont know what works either. Like I said, the girl I know now says she goes to this other guy because he has no feelings for her so she feels safe with him, whatever that means. 'Course he does drive SAAB convertible, ohhhhhhhhhh, how impressive, then another guy who she talks to drives a Hummer and a BMW, hmmmmm. Guess I cant compete with Hummer Boy and SAAB boy. I'll walk all over either one of those preppy punks in my F-150.

I would like to clarify before I piss off any good women here, MOST women are good hearted individuals who would love to be with a good man, I guess it works both ways.

Thats not true at all..

Thats not true at all..


Which part?

"Plain and simple, and I dont like it. But thesedays women dont want to hear all the I love you stuff, I think it makes them feel tied down too much".




The statement above...about women not liking to be loved, being treated right... you already clarified on the statement...its good... and it is Some women not ALL women. not pissed, just wanted to clarify and hopefully get the mentality out of your head about it... there are more women who want to be treated well, outside of the women who want to be treated like dogs.... eliminate this step by asking them "How is your relationship with your Father"... that will help a lot.

The statement above...about women not liking to be loved, being treated right... you already clarified on the statement...its good... and it is Some women not ALL women. not pissed, just wanted to clarify and hopefully get the mentality out of your head about it... there are more women who want to be treated well, outside of the women who want to be treated like dogs.... eliminate this step by asking them "How is your relationship with your Father"... that will help a lot.



;)

there are more women who want to be treated well, outside of the women who want to be treated like dogs



If they are out there I like to know where they are. They are not around me thats for sure.

They are the not so obvious ones.... stay away from the ones who are making a point to "stand out" in the crowd.

Sorry to get "Dr.Phil" on you all... I do that sometimes.. but basic psychology is required these days...

They are the not so obvious ones.... stay away from the ones who are making a point to "stand out" in the crowd.


I agree with you...the ones that stand out in a crowd, usually thrive on attention and will do whatever it takes to get more of it.

Unfortunatly it is true... I am one of those girls who are rolling her eyes at the girls dancing on the bar.

Im thinking that maybe if I tell enough guys that they will stop thinking with thier "pee pee's" and look beyond whats jiggling in thier face :)

Unfortunatly it is true... I am one of those girls who are rolling her eyes at the girls dancing on the bar.

Im thinking that maybe if I tell enough guys that they will stop thinking with thier "pee pee's" and look beyond whats jiggling in thier face :)



We only have enough blood to supply one head ;)

I dont need sex as much as I need love and emotion. But I do need it sometimes, ok, alot of times. LOL

Yeah, Most women are aware of things such as "a mans needs".... thing is... your super nice to women, they will take care of those needs :)

Yeah, Most women are aware of things such as "a mans needs".... thing is... your super nice to women, they will take care of those needs :)


I am always super nice to my women.......
Me likey when they take care of my needs....:)

Okay! Some of these comments are hitting a little below the belt. I know these are gross generalizations, but c'mon, we need to lay off those a bit.

First of all, I have a not so great relationship with my father. I think I have risen above those issues and know how to have a meaningful relationship with a man. In fact, it's the men that I've dated who seem to have the deep-seeded family issues in their pasts. So no generalizations there!

Second, I LOVE to stand out in a crowd. Why? Because I am a fabulous individual who should be recognized as unique. Now, I'm not dancing on the bar, but I'm definately chatting it up with anyone around. In addition, I'm willing to take risks and that does get a person noticed. I'm not an attention hog, mind you. I know girls like that...I simply try to conduct myself in a manner that is tasteful, special, and noticable.

And finally, just because a gal likes attention does not mean she will "do whatever it takes to get more". People generally like to receive attention. I certainly do. I'd much rather feel welcome in a group than feel shunned. Am I going to flash everyone around me for that? Hell no. Am I going to sleep with everyone surrounding me to acheive that? Hell no. But I will be myself and make those folks I'm conversing with feel special. And they will in turn give me more attention. It's a lovely way to meet each others needs without getting dirty.

I guess I put my foot in my mouth again. I'll shut up now :(

Its pretty simple actually makes me wonder why %99 of the single male population doesnt understand this.

Whatever, dear mariner. You will not shut up, as I like to hear what you have to say.

I'm simply saying, confidence in one's "goddess" status is not a bad thing, nor does it mean that we are wary of love. It's the ones who are not confident that you have to watch out for...

No, I am serious......I consider myself to be proven wrong again, I can admit that.

Gotta love a man who can admit he's wrong! Thank you so much for that!

Personally, I enjoy hearing others thoughts on situations such as these. Seeing a different point of view can be greatly beneficial, ya know?

I am wrong way more then you know my freind. I am a good guy, just misunderstood.

Several keywords/statements in your post automatically excludes you from the "stereotype"
Here are a few...(That I noticed)
See above in your quote.... this is what I feel makes you different Sweetdaisy!






Okay! Some of these comments are hitting a little below the belt. I know these are gross generalizations, but c'mon, we need to lay off those a bit.

First of all, I have a not so great relationship with my father. I think I have risen above those issues and know how to have a meaningful relationship with a man.


---->Most women arent aware of "issues" and the thought of "therapy" or any other rational or basic psychological needs or issues that need to be addressed are ignored by the majority of women in this stereotype... they are offended... you acknowledged... not offended
In fact, it's the men that I've dated who seem to have the deep-seeded family issues in their pasts. So no generalizations there! :)

Second, I LOVE to stand out in a crowd. Why? Because I am a fabulous individual who should be recognized as unique.

--->>> YES! and this is a good thing... Your not showing your boobies to everyone are you? You do not fit the stereotype. You said yourself... you are an individual... not "Bar Hopp'n Joe's Next Party Lay"You are smart enough to know that sleeping with a man is not going to make him "love you"... like the ones in the stereotype..

Now, I'm not dancing on the bar, but I'm definately chatting it up with anyone around. In addition, I'm willing to take risks and that does get a person noticed. I'm not an attention hog, mind you. I know girls like that...I simply try to conduct myself in a manner that is tasteful, special, and noticable.


---->>>>>>YOU SAID TASTEFUL! You Are not in this stereotype!

And finally, just because a gal likes attention does not mean she will "do whatever it takes to get more". TRUE!

People generally like to receive attention. I certainly do. I'd much rather feel welcome in a group than feel shunned. Am I going to flash everyone around me for that? Hell no. <-- NOT IN THE STEREOTYPE!

Am I going to sleep with everyone surrounding me to acheive that? Hell no.


<-- NOT IN THE STEREOTYPE YOU Obviously HAVE SENSE!!!


But I will be myself and make those folks I'm conversing with feel special. And they will in turn give me more attention. It's a lovely way to meet each others needs without getting dirty. <<<--- You are not in that catagory at all. :)


I too grew up in a semi-disfunctional family... and ya know what, theraphy works and it saved my damn life!

Damn girl! You rock!

You are definately an intelligent goddess!!!

:yourock:

hahahah ummm, thanks... Im just one of those people who pay attention when life takes a huge slimy dump on them :)

Well I have read all the post since this morn to catch up on what has been said and I know which woman to stay away from that all they are after is attention. I myself am needing that attention but have been more or less hiding cause I do not want to be that type of person. Yes it would be nice to have that need but I am in a big need of haveing that attention. I want the companionship more than anything just someone I can talk to and hang out with you know friends, haveing some female friends would be great. But I am a guy that will not go after or chase down a woman to talk to or hang out with as I am not sure if she wants any friendship. The way I figure it is if she wants friendship then she would let em know. One thing I have yet to understand is I have had many woman say that I am cute and thats as far as it goes. For instance went in a okc chat room on aol got gusty and for the heck of it im'ed one to see if she wanted to chat, she wanted to see pic told her I had one on profile, she said brb, well guess what she never brb'ed so what does that tell me! I am a nice guy very easy to get along with but for some reason I can't ever get any woman to talk to me or hang out with me. And I don't like going to the bars since there is no telling what type or shape a girl is in when they are at a bar or club. I know there are nice cool sweet woman out there but were. All I want is a simple woman for friendship, and I am haveing hard luck.

We all want companionship... your not alone... Im 31 years old and I finally have a "group of friends" outside of the internet & highschool.

Friends are VERY important and they help ya make it through those rough moments in your life.. if they dont, then they suck as friends.

I have learned that there is a lot of things that I need to "have" in my life (not material things) and Friends is one of the main things... I am in hopes to live out some dreams and maybe I will be considered totally "happy" as a person.. I feel im fine and Im happy but there are things I need to take care of first before I see myself falling madley in love with somone... on the other hand it may happen tomorrow, and then throw my life in a loop.
So, just try to stay busy and stop "looking"... be yourself and I hate to say this... lower your physical standards slightly (unless you dont have any lol), the main thing I notice with my single "guy" friends is that they are all chasing "Hillary Duff" look alikes... Not that they are ugly or anything.. thats not the case... girls who are perfect to the mass majority are not interested in regular guys... they are looking for "Ken"...

If your in a bar... im not entirely anti-bar (I dont like them at all though) but people do meet sometimes and things are fine... what the bad part is when it comes to bars/clubs is people getting wasted and acting like jackasses...

Well I am 28 and never had a good group of friends. I had a so called friend that ended up back stabbing me and screwing my wife, and thats the spot or rut I am in. Thats why I say I am wanting some friends in hope that maybe they have been where I have and can help me deeal with this. I have always been myself, never have been a faker or something I am not nor will I be something I am not. Maybe in the future I will make some friends and replace the bad one I did have.

Yikes! Where do you hang out ? To meet possibly new friends?

Don't have a place to hang out, don't like bars or clubs too noisey plus the risk of fights breaking out. Not really a place that I have discovered to hang out, guess I could go to a book store and sit there and read. Would that work prob not. I really don't know where else to go to hang out, I will be out this weekend, will be at the may fair in norman listeing to my band I know play, then prob just wonder around and look at the booths setup. Other than that, pretty much covers it.

That seems to be the biggest problem thesedays, no place to really go and hang out to meet people. You just cant go up to someone and say, hey, your cute, wanna go out, doesnt work that way. You almost need to know someone that knows someone. Dirtrider, you seem like a decent guy, sorry your ex friend had to screw you over like he did.

do you have hobbies?

Who, me? if so, no. I am too busy working and working on my house, but I do like to get out in the summer and ride the mountain bike, or go up north.

I have a hobby but it can be a exspensive one. I havev a gas powered r/c truck to mess with. At the moment I have it apart cleanign it and painting it in a attemp to make it look like grave digger.

Ummm.... yeah, I can see how that would be expnsive.. :)

Do you have other hobbies? that are typically affordable or almost free?

Reading, writing, poetry, live music, dancing, want to learn how to dance? things like that..

I have a hobby but it can be a exspensive one. I havev a gas powered r/c truck to mess with. At the moment I have it apart cleanign it and painting it in a attemp to make it look like grave digger.



My buddy was into that and spent a ton of money, but had a blast. When you get the thing done you'll have to post a pic.

Most definitly will post a pic. Its not to exspensive as long as you don't break something or a part gives out. The most exspensive part is the fuel cost 30 buxs a gallon! Don't really have any other hobbies, dont like dancing, do like music trying now to save up to get a banjo and learn the banjo since I have always like the banjo. It just has a good ring to it. I would like to get that xm satillite radio since I like to listen to music alot. Other than that, pretty much covers it. I useally try to spend my time outside piddleing around if the weather is nice enough. I like to tinker with stuff to if I have anything to tinker with.

Back on subject, do you guys think a significant other's hobby is a turn off?

Back on subject, do you guys think a significant other's hobby is a turn off?


Sorry to get off track, I dont think a significant other's hobby is a turn off at all. If I had a woman and she wanted to go do her scrapbooking, or whatever it is women do for hobbies I dont care.

I dont think people should share "hobbies"... its not a requirement, I think people should share interests. I do not like sports at all, he cant make me either, but I dont mind, I will do my hobby. I have a motto about relationships, its pretty much, you should never marry a person who is just like you, people should share lives not live the same one..

Basically people are individuals, thats what brought you together, becoming "one" is not as good as it appears...

My opinion of Biggest Turn-off ---------- Selfishness, Dishonesty, and poor communication skills.

Huge turnoff......a woman who farts out loud. LOL
I've heard stories of what a ladies restroom sounds like.... I never wanna be there.

Honestly the first turnoff that popped to mind was tatoos. I hope that doesn't offend too many but it's a very deep-rooted, not shallow, perspective. Even nastier but less common are any peircings on the face. I don't think I'd like anything other than pierced ears.

If someone thinks that's shallow of me, consider this: Either one of the above screams out to me that we're different enough that it wont work out.

If I was to participate in one of those speed dating events, those would be the first one or two questions I'd ask...Any tatoos or piercings? If the reply was "yes", I'm not sure I'd even ask any more questions.