If what they end up doing in OKC is anything like their videos it's on a much larger scale than the one last year in Deep Deuce. That event was pretty great though last year.

double post.

That's a pretty disappointing selection, IMO. Who wants to hangout near shady buildings and parking lots near the jail?

I would much prefer it being on 2nd St in DD, or even down the Mickey Mantel bridge in front of the ballpark.

Great addition planned for the NE corner of 6th & Francis:
http://www.okctalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10846&stc=1http://www.okctalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10847&stc=1http://www.okctalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10848&stc=1

Very cool

Great addition planned for the NE corner of 6th & Francis:


Planned by whom?

What is this?

Looks similar to Lisbon Lofts... is this their next project?

SoSA Townhomes - OKCTalk (http://www.okctalk.com/showwiki.php?title=SoSA%20Townhomes)

I believe Lisbon Lofts were done by Mode. This is another developer?

Yes, Mode is doing Lisbon Lofts and this is Northline Development.

Northline has already done houses in the SoSA area.

Does anyone know what the construction trailer next to Valir on the SE corner of 7th and Shartel is going to be used for?

Valir is doing some renovation.

Steve has a couple recent blog entries about stuff in/near this area: "We?re legislating taste and being arbitrary doing it." | News OK (http://newsok.com/were-legislating-taste-and-being-arbitrary-doing-it./article/5431780)

and Blighted Midtown Property Set to Become Showcase Home? | News OK (http://newsok.com/blighted-midtown-property-set-to-become-showcase-home/article/5432386)

House #25 above is featured today in the NY Times "What You Get" feature in the Business Section. It shows 3 homes listed at about $800k (One in Wash State, one in Albuq. and the one in Sosa with a pic and description of each). Pretty cool I thought.

This is a new project just submitted for design approval (UDC) at 615 NW 7th. It's another Northline (Dwellings at SoSA) development and is already sold:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/615nw7.png

Northline also just sold the house at 828 NW 8th for $548K:

http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/Searches/sketches/picfile/2732/R013203648001nA.jpg

WOW ^ I love that design. Can't wait to see that one built.

Agree - that is a great looking plan and see they paid $125k for the lot. Looks very cool.

I am so happy that the house 615 NW 7th St has been demolished - I own the property to the west. The design of the proposed house looks great and I fully support it.

I'd say that is great for your property value!

Love the design of both. Are you sure 828 NW 8th is a Northline project? Beacuse the county assessor website shows a Tai Nguyen as the seller not Northline.

Love the design of both. Are you sure 828 NW 8th is a Northline project? Beacuse the county assessor website shows a Tai Nguyen as the seller not Northline.

Yes - think he is involved in Northline. Own that small house behind as well.

Steve has a couple recent blog entries about stuff in/near this area: "We?re legislating taste and being arbitrary doing it." | News OK (http://newsok.com/were-legislating-taste-and-being-arbitrary-doing-it./article/5431780)

I wanted to correct a potential misunderstanding about a UDC Commissioner residing or working in an area and also reviewing cases from that area. For example, in the article referenced above there is the sentence:


"Brian Fitzsimmons has voted not once, but twice, on controversial cases where he clearly had a conflict as an immediate neighbor and yet did not recuse himself."

However, living or working in an area subject to UDC review is not sufficient reason alone to recuse from hearing a case in that area. Actually, the Zoning Code specifically *requires* that a number of commissioners do, in fact, have ownership ties to the areas they review. This is from the OKC Zoning Code:


§ 59-3350.3(A)(1) - Urban Design Commission Membership: "Four citizen members shall be property or business owners in locations subject to Urban Design Commission review."

This general approach to membership based on ownership also holds for some of the City's other design review committees and commissions (e.g., Stockyards, HP).

I wanted to correct a potential misunderstanding about a UDC Commissioner residing or working in an area and also reviewing cases from that area. For example, in the article referenced above there is the sentence:


"Brian Fitzsimmons has voted not once, but twice, on controversial cases where he clearly had a conflict as an immediate neighbor and yet did not recuse himself."

However, living or working in an area subject to UDC review is not sufficient reason alone to recuse from hearing a case in that area. In fact, the Zoning Code actually *requires* that a number of commissioners do, in fact, have ownership ties to the areas they review. This is from the OKC Zoning Code:


§ 59-3350.3(A)(1) - Urban Design Commission Membership: "Four citizen members shall be property or business owners in locations subject to Urban Design Commission review."

This general approach to membership based on ownership also holds for some of the City's other design review committees and commissions (e.g., Stockyards, HP).

Hmmmm…

Thanks for this information George!

I wanted to correct a potential misunderstanding about a UDC Commissioner residing or working in an area and also reviewing cases from that area. For example, in the article referenced above there is the sentence:


"Brian Fitzsimmons has voted not once, but twice, on controversial cases where he clearly had a conflict as an immediate neighbor and yet did not recuse himself."

However, living or working in an area subject to UDC review is not sufficient reason alone to recuse from hearing a case in that area. Actually, the Zoning Code specifically *requires* that a number of commissioners do, in fact, have ownership ties to the areas they review. This is from the OKC Zoning Code:


§ 59-3350.3(A)(1) - Urban Design Commission Membership: "Four citizen members shall be property or business owners in locations subject to Urban Design Commission review."

This general approach to membership based on ownership also holds for some of the City's other design review committees and commissions (e.g., Stockyards, HP).

The packet that George and other members of the Urban Design Commission received prior to the discussion and vote for the NW 6 project (across the street from Brian's home) included a protest letter from Brian Fitzsimmons' wife. Watch the video at www.okc.gov and you will see Titi protesting the project (1:23) while her husband Brian sits on the horseshoe and listens. Both George and Brian are men I greatly respect and like. But I still don't get how this isn't a conflict of interest. Never in my 25 years have I seen a person not recuse himself or herself in this sort of situation (I do have a fuzzy recollection of former Councilwoman Ann Simank recusing herself from votes involving the fire department due to a relative becoming a firefighter).

Steve! Welcome back - hopefully not temporarily, but I understand if so - and thanks for the input! I fully agree with that... There's no way that isn't a conflict of interest, honestly - except in maybe like one situation: if he disagreed with his wife. But I get the feeling that this was not the case.

I saw that someone called Group 3 LLC bought the Central Baptist Church properties for $975,000 at 8th and Francis. Anyone know what they have planned?

I saw that someone called Group 3 LLC bought the Central Baptist Church properties for $975,000 at 8th and Francis. Anyone know what they have planned?

That's Corsair Cattle Company. They are flippers about 98% of the time.

In fact, they are already marketing the property.

Plans submitted to demo this eyesore at 524 NW 8th and build a modern structure with rear guest house:



http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/524nw8old.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/524nw8a.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/524nw8b.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/524nw8c.jpg

Plans submitted to demo this eyesore at 524 NW 8th and build a modern structure with rear guest house:


Hey! That's the drug house! We can't tear that landmark down!!!!!! I kid, obviously.

Finally

Totally off topic question, but what are the rules regarding guest houses or MIL suites being rented out on your property?

Totally off topic question, but what are the rules regarding guest houses or MIL suites being rented out on your property?

I believe you have to be zoned for it... R-2 instead of R-1.

I believe you have to be zoned for it... R-2 instead of R-1.

Yeah, unless you're in the downtown zones perhaps; it might be permitted there as well.

MIL in OKC is not an easy thing - if you show a kitchen in your design plans, you have to have meet every code requirement you'd have to meet in the main house. If it's an existing MIL space, you might have more leniency. Not sure...

Evidently the plans changed since July for that property.

Blighted Midtown Property Set to Become Showcase Home? | News OK (http://newsok.com/blighted-midtown-property-set-to-become-showcase-home/article/5432386)


In just a few weeks of gutting and tearing out a front addition, the original façade of the 1920 home is emerging. Keoppel, who received quite a bit of attention for a modern home he built at 4711 N Blackwelder, has big plans for the property that include turning the home and guest house in the rear into a top notch, 5,000-foot-home with a pool in the yard.

Perhaps they ran into issues that made renovation unfeasible.

The house at 524 NW 8th is now almost completely demolished:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/8th092415.jpg

Hello all. New here. Recently purchased the lot at 907 Francis. Planning and design to start in early 2016. Just thought I would let the neighbors know. Look forward to talking with you guys in the future.

Hello all. New here. Recently purchased the lot at 907 Francis. Planning and design to start in early 2016. Just thought I would let the neighbors know. Look forward to talking with you guys in the future.

Welcome to the site and the neighborhood! I live at SoSA Heights just right around the corner.

The house at 524 NW 8th is now almost completely demolished:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/8th092415.jpg

Work appears to have completely stopped here. Any news?

I dig that the modern abodes are starting to bridge the gap between Walker and SoSA, but that would have been a cool old house to keep amidst the fray of competing mod abodes.

Work appears to have completely stopped here. Any news?

They may be waiting for their design approvals.

I dig that the modern abodes are starting to bridge the gap between Walker and SoSA, but that would have been a cool old house to keep amidst the fray of competing mod abodes.

I would like to see some braniff-esque homes that have design elements from both, or do those exist?

Work appears to have completely stopped here. Any news?


Is that what they call " Good Bones "

I assume they are tearing the whole thing down right?

And are those asphalt shingles or asbestos shingles or neither? Hard to tell. Many older homes had the asbestos shingles that were covered. Not sure what the regs are with tearing them off.

The house at 524 NW 8th is now almost completely demolished:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/8th092415.jpg

This project is once again moving forward.

Met Shyon Keoppel yesterday (the owner/ developer) and he said they just poured the back slab and the whole site should start coming to life soon.

This is a joke. Do not take seriously internet.

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I would like to see some braniff-esque homes that have design elements from both, or do those exist?

Yes. A friend of mine did this in Cleveland.

http://www.truenorthliving.com/news/2014/9/18/tnl-tremont-property-featured-on-newsnet-5-cleveland

Hey everyone!
After a year of interesting weather and lots of fun, we are finishing up our house on 916 NW 8th! We would love for anyone who loves SoSA as much as we do to come and take a look.
We will be having a small preview of the home on Thursday November 19th between 4:30pm -6:30pm. There will be some drinks and hors d'oeuvres!

https://www.facebook.com/events/131276437233638/

Just spent a week in OKC as my house in SOSA became vacant after a long lease. Will be getting it ready to lease and I took some pics of the house and all the houses being built next to and across the street. Please contact me at kdubinmo@gmail.com if you know anyone interested in leasing a house in SOSA. I had it built in 2005. It is located at 619 NW 7th Street and is 3 BR/ 2 bath /2 car garage. I was excited to see all that is going on in the area!118621186311864118651186611867118681186911870 1187111872118731187411875

Do you also have pics of the interior?

will have interior pics as soon as soon as carpeting and painting inside is done

The house at 524 NW 8th is now almost completely demolished:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/8th092415.jpg

They tried to save some of the historic facade but in the end this has turned out to be new construction:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/8th012316.jpg

How did they try preservation?

This 3,092 square house on NW 8th near Francis just listed for a cool $1 million.

That's $323 per SF.

This 3,092 square house on NW 8th near Francis just listed for a cool $1 million.

That's $323 per SF.

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/826-NW-8th-St_Oklahoma-City_OK_73106_M89112-46231

http://p.rdcpix.com/v01/lb5efa945-m1xd-w640_h480_q80.jpg

Prices in the area continue to surprise me but I'm not sure this will sell for the asking price. I could be wrong again though.

This half duplex on the same street just sold for $523K; $268 / SF:

http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/Searches/sketches/picfile/2732/R013202912001nA.jpg

Wow a DUPLEX for $500,000. Alrighty then.

So is there anything mid-century modern in SoSA that's under $200K? Half a million to a full million for houses there just seems kinda insane.

So is there anything mid-century modern in SoSA that's under $200K? Half a million to a full million for houses there just seems kinda insane.

Nothing that I've seen. Lisbon Lofts had some that were closer to that $200k number. Most these houses that are up for sale are a pretty good size, either new builds or remodels with high end finishes. Buying a house that hasn't been remodeled might be your best bet, but from what I can remember I don't think you can even get a lot now for under $200k.

The proximity to downtown and Midtown are going to make this the premier neighborhood for people who don't want historical or vintage. It's not really surprising that houses are selling for the prices they are, considering location. Think of what real estate near the CBD in other cities costs and it's still reasonable. I tried to talk my husband into buying 3+ lots a few years ago when they were selling for about $15,000 apiece. Sigh.

People who want to be reasonably close to downtown for under $250,000 should seriously think about Classen Ten Penn or even see if there are lots/houses for reno available in the Kennedy neighborhood south of the Health Sciences Center. It could take off in the next few years once people figure out how close it is. That's where I would look if I were in the market for affordable housing.