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Larry OKC
04-04-2011, 01:15 AM
Frontier. This is Frontier Country right?

You made me look it up and you are correct. OKC is firmly in "Frontier Country". The other "Countries" are

Red Carpet (Panhandle and NW area)
Green (Tulsa/NE quadrant)
Great Plains (Lawton/SW)
Kiamichi (McAlester/SE)
Lake & Trails (I-35 S of OKC metro, between Great Plains and Kiamichi)

So the suggestion works for me (would work even better if Frontier City was located on it)

Kerry
04-04-2011, 11:01 AM
You know, the more I think about Frontier Ave the more I like it.

Spartan
04-04-2011, 11:31 AM
You made me look it up and you are correct. OKC is firmly in "Frontier Country". The other "Countries" are

Red Carpet (Panhandle and NW area)
Green (Tulsa/NE quadrant)
Great Plains (Lawton/SW)
Kiamichi (McAlester/SE)
Lake & Trails (I-35 S of OKC metro, between Great Plains and Kiamichi)

So the suggestion works for me (would work even better if Frontier City was located on it)

The only ones that have any popular meaning are Green Country and the Great Plains.

Urban Pioneer
04-12-2011, 03:46 PM
Maybe I missed it in the thread, but this going to be called "Oklahoma City Boulevard?" There was discussion about it at the Council Meeting this morning.

Spartan
04-12-2011, 08:05 PM
I think it passed, too.

poe
04-12-2011, 08:36 PM
Surely something more original will come up.

Kerry
04-12-2011, 08:49 PM
Let's just hope this name is only being chosen for funding and construction purposes.

Spartan
04-13-2011, 04:13 AM
Construction of signs and branding, you mean? The documents in the council agenda cite expenditures for permanent signage.

I really like Steve's coverage of this issue on his blog. Apparently the mayor said this was a lone decision he made because he claims to have a strong background in marketing and branding. Wow.

By the way, for those who can read between the lines, the mayor does not have a strong background in marketing and branding. In case anyone was fooled, Steve put up his okc.gov "resume" :

http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2011/04/12/oklahoma-city-boulevard-2/

Larry OKC
04-13-2011, 04:16 AM
Ahhhh, but he did say he could talk about branding for an hour! Reminds me of the "qualifications" of one of our former legislators over at the insurance dept (he is an insurance consumer)

Spartan
04-13-2011, 06:04 AM
Ludicrous.

BoulderSooner
04-13-2011, 08:13 AM
just a note this was on the planning commission agenda several weeks back and passed as well before going to the council.

Larry OKC
04-13-2011, 10:29 PM
Surely something more original will come up.

There is still time for that to happen (it is NOT a done deal). The Council only unanimously approved setting "May 17 as the final hearing on an ordinance assigning the name Oklahoma City Boulevard..." (Oklahoman blub in Wed's paper)

No guarantee that the Council will pass it anyway but if you are unhappy with it, let your Council person know about it. If possible, even attend the Council meeting and sign up to speak on it.

KayneMo
05-30-2011, 11:39 PM
Scissortail Blvd! Or maybe something in a tribal language perhaps?

MikeOKC
05-30-2011, 11:52 PM
Excellent post concerning the boulevard at OKC Central tonight:
http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2011/05/30/an-alternative-take-on-oklahoma-city-boulevard-from-a-local-branding-expert

bornhere
05-31-2011, 12:49 AM
I'd like to know exactly what the $&@# a "branding expert" does. I think now it's usually what used to be called "advertising." I've never heard of anyone trying to "brand" a street.

ljbab728
05-31-2011, 12:53 AM
I'd like to know exactly what the $&@# a "branding expert" does. I think now it's usually what used to be called "advertising." I've never heard of anyone trying to "brand" a street.

I guess you've heard of that now, then. But to be honest, branding and advertising are not exactly the same.

bornhere
05-31-2011, 12:57 AM
Well, to be honest, I thought 'branding' was akin to what used to be called 'positioning.' But now it apparently means 'thinking up names for stuff.'

ljbab728
05-31-2011, 01:04 AM
Well, to be honest, I thought 'branding' was akin to what used to be called 'positioning.' But now it apparently means 'thinking up names for stuff.'

OK. Now you understand then.

Spartan
05-31-2011, 01:24 AM
I'd like to know exactly what the $&@# a "branding expert" does. I think now it's usually what used to be called "advertising." I've never heard of anyone trying to "brand" a street.

I think this is what it means in Oklahoma:

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR8256Le1_BnvQfsksoZ6jy04VOtA_qA VlwlqKhByaeLKP863nj6g

ljbab728
05-31-2011, 02:01 AM
I think this is what it means in Oklahoma:

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR8256Le1_BnvQfsksoZ6jy04VOtA_qA VlwlqKhByaeLKP863nj6g

Very somewhat amusing, Spartan.

Spartan
05-31-2011, 09:35 AM
For the Energy Blvd people.

mcca7596
05-31-2011, 07:42 PM
Well, it's done; the council bows down to the mayor's "marketing expertise" (http://www.newsok.com/85-million-road-to-be-named-oklahoma-city-boulevard/article/3572987?custom_click=headlines_widget[URL)

kevinpate
05-31-2011, 08:03 PM
:doh:

Spartan
05-31-2011, 08:32 PM
Guys we are so backwards right now it's not even funny. Holy crap...

Dustin
05-31-2011, 08:51 PM
I don't see how naming a street after our city makes us backwards but bad name nonetheless..

Pete
05-31-2011, 09:07 PM
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma in Oklahoma County on the Oklahoma River and now featuring Oklahoma City Boulevard.

Quite possibly the most redundant and uninspired set of names on the planet.


The only good thing is that it should be easy to rename down the line.

betts
05-31-2011, 09:14 PM
We'll just call it The Boulevard now. The words Oklahoma City" will only be used on the map, I predict.

kevinpate
05-31-2011, 11:04 PM
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma in Oklahoma County on the Oklahoma River and now featuring Oklahoma City Boulevard.

Quite possibly the most redundant and uninspired set of names on the planet.


The only good thing is that it should be easy to rename down the line.

Don't forget to stop by the Oklahoma City Arena whie you're there.

ljbab728
05-31-2011, 11:04 PM
We'll just call it The Boulevard now. The words Oklahoma City" will only be used on the map, I predict.

You're probably right, Betts. Just like most locals refer to OKC as "The City" instead of Oklahoma City.

MikeOKC
05-31-2011, 11:41 PM
I can't see how it passed 8-1(!) Thank you, Pat Ryan for voting no. My guess is there's a backstory we'll learn about someday. Too rushed, needed it done immediately - something's not right. Maybe somebody had to have something in to the feds by June 1st for funding and it had to include an official street name, I don't know...just thinking as I type...but this makes sense to nobody except those eight council members.

Larry OKC
06-01-2011, 02:00 AM
To add to the redundancy, it is officially "The City of Oklahoma City" (apparently we were so unsure of it our selves, we wanted to make sure everyone else knew we really were a "City")

Don't forget, the Oklahoma City Arena is just temporary. Many here swore it was a done deal and the name would be unveiled at the beginning of the playoffs. Still waiting...

Spartan
06-01-2011, 06:25 AM
I don't see how naming a street after our city makes us backwards but bad name nonetheless..

Because we too dumb to name a street for crying out loud

CaptDave
06-01-2011, 09:16 AM
:doh:
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma in Oklahoma County on the Oklahoma River and now featuring Oklahoma City Boulevard.

Quite possibly the most redundant and uninspired set of names on the planet.


The only good thing is that it should be easy to rename down the line.

But who knows what "they" will come up with if it is to be renamed......

earlywinegareth
06-01-2011, 09:25 AM
WTH? Did someone put something in the water that destroys creativity? If I were in charge of that meeting, rule #1 would be: it will NOT be called OKC boulevard. Anything else is better.

rcjunkie
06-01-2011, 02:30 PM
How about the "All I do is complain about everything the City Mayor and Council Members Do Blvd."

rondvu
06-01-2011, 04:05 PM
In one word LAME.

Snowman
06-01-2011, 07:11 PM
Department of Redundancy Department
111 Oklahoma City Boulevard
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

MikeOKC
06-01-2011, 07:21 PM
Department of Redundancy Department
111 Oklahoma City Boulevard
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

Close, Snowman. I think it's actually the Oklahoma City Department of Redundancy Department.

venture
06-01-2011, 08:19 PM
Well the name is disappointing. Even something lame like Land Run Blvd would have been better. Heck take a play on words... Shocore Blvd...well it could conflict with that Canadian band.

poe
06-01-2011, 09:13 PM
Bring back some of the familiar names to downtown in the form of a new boulevard - Criterion, Brown, Baum, Hales, Huckins, Jones, Iten, etc...or just call it Crosstown. As much as I love Oklahoma City, I have to question who in their right mind would settle for something so obvious.

Steve
06-01-2011, 09:18 PM
I actually heard a really great name today shared by an expert in this field... too bad it doesn't matter now.

venture
06-01-2011, 11:43 PM
Well luckily...streets can get renamed over time. Maybe once Mick is finally gone, a new resolution can be pushed through to give it a better name - or maybe he'll just be gone before it opens.

Larry OKC
06-02-2011, 12:41 AM
I still like one of Steve's early suggestions...naming it the after OKC's original name "Oklahoma Station". I learned something new when I read that, would love to know any history and when it got changed to OKC.

Did catch a comment during the meeting about being protective of whatever name is chosen and not let others shorten it. They mentioned that some of the analysts during the playoffs called us "Oak City". The only times I have heard that is folks from Tulsa or by airline pilots (presume that is where the analysts picked it up). Not to long ago, Al Roker on his relatively new program on the Weather Channel (Wake up with Al), the on air person said Oak City and Al corrected her on it.

HOT ROD
06-02-2011, 01:29 AM
ridiculous. ....

try this out for our NBA team:

Oklahoma City Thunder, Oklahoma City Arena, _ _ _ Oklahoma City Boulevard, downtown Oklahoma City near the Oklahoma River, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma County, Oklahoma!

I think "Oklahoma! Boulevard" would hvae been better than 'Oklahoma City Boulevard'. 'OKC Boulevard' would have been even better than that, yet keeping the inferiority complex theme. 'City Boulevard' might be the best, yet keeping with the 'city' theme. 'Boulevard' is perhaps the best, just 'Boulevard'.


this got me to another point of thinking, look for the mayor's choice of the cc (E Central Park) to be approved. This, IMO, is a great idea and hopefully the mayor can 'rightfully - IMO' champion this. However, he should get OG&E to donate a portion of the substation relocation and use Central park money for the rest, IMO. ....

SkyWestOKC
06-02-2011, 01:36 AM
They already approved the cc to be the ex-Ford site.

HOT ROD
06-02-2011, 01:46 AM
that was the subcommittee right? doesn't the MAPS board and the council still have final approval.

SkyWestOKC
06-02-2011, 01:52 AM
Council confirmed IIRC?

Larry OKC
06-02-2011, 03:04 AM
I don't think anything has been finalized by the Council at this point. The Oversight committee passed a time line recommendation resolution to the Council which moved the C.C. up some. But again, I don't think Oversight has settled on a site yet. Nor the Council approving the recommended timeline yet.

Spartan
06-02-2011, 07:24 AM
The council may change direction on a few things regarding MAPS but I'm not sure that they would spend that political capital on the CC site. It seems like they might spend that capital more on the timeline issue, which will be interesting to see, but I expect it to go through the council as well. The council is operating on the understanding (or is it an insistence) that nothing is final and they can change anything they want later.

rag451
06-04-2011, 07:27 PM
I'm a pretty boring guy, I guess, 'cause I don't mind Oklahoma City Boulevard. It's simple. It's obvious - something I know many people knock but which frankly is a play-it-safe strategy few outsiders will question. In each capital city, is there not a thoroughfare named for the state or that capital?

Just my 1.5 cents!

Larry OKC
06-04-2011, 10:57 PM
I don't think it is the worst name in the world but not the best either. I would give it a "C". Average. Mediocre. Uninspired. I have liked several of the suggestions offered by others.

I point brought up during Council was the length of the name and protecting it so it doesn't get shortened down, are OKC street signs long enough for the full, non-abbreviated name? Does anyone know?

kevinpate
06-04-2011, 11:27 PM
I've decided it could of been worse

The City of Oklahoma City Blvd.
The Honorable Mick Cornett's Oklahoma City Blvd.
I-40 Business

Larry OKC
06-05-2011, 12:04 AM
Don't know if it is true or not but someone said that because of federal regulations, it will be signed as I-40 Business no matter what we decide to call it.

Then others have suggested that your 2nd one is what the long term plan is anyway LOL

betts
06-05-2011, 02:14 AM
Like a lot of things around here, we've spent hours and hours worrying and fussing about a road that will almost assuredly end up being called "The Boulevard" by residents no matter what we name it.

Larry OKC
06-05-2011, 02:31 AM
Agree Betts. Certain names stick and others don't. How many locals called it the Southwestern Bell/ATT&T/SWB Bricktown Ballpark (or whatever the current "official" name may be, hard to keep up with it). Most people call it The Brick or the Ballpark.

Spartan
06-05-2011, 08:44 AM
I'm a pretty boring guy, I guess, 'cause I don't mind Oklahoma City Boulevard. It's simple. It's obvious - something I know many people knock but which frankly is a play-it-safe strategy few outsiders will question. In each capital city, is there not a thoroughfare named for the state or that capital?

Just my 1.5 cents!

Even worse we already have that, also.

OKCDrummer77
06-05-2011, 01:33 PM
I don't think it is the worst name in the world but not the best either. I would give it a "C". Average. Mediocre. Uninspired. I have liked several of the suggestions offered by others.

I point brought up during Council was the length of the name and protecting it so it doesn't get shortened down, are OKC street signs long enough for the full, non-abbreviated name? Does anyone know?

I'm betting that the signs will all read "Okla. City Blvd."

Snowman
06-05-2011, 07:30 PM
I'm betting that the signs will all read "Okla. City Blvd."

The council was saying they want to discourage abbreviations so official signs are almost assured to be fully spelled out, though their is not much they can do with what private businesses along the way putting on their labels. 'OKC blvd' seems more likely if you are going to abbreviate.

Larry OKC
06-06-2011, 01:30 AM
Exactly Snowman. And even though it is the Oklahoma City Thunder, the logo has it abbreviated OKC

Spartan
06-07-2011, 07:14 AM
I don't think it is the worst name in the world but not the best either. I would give it a "C". Average. Mediocre. Uninspired. I have liked several of the suggestions offered by others.

I point brought up during Council was the length of the name and protecting it so it doesn't get shortened down, are OKC street signs long enough for the full, non-abbreviated name? Does anyone know?

Your grade is generous.