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The units will range between 865 square feet and 1150 square feet. In addition, each unit will have at least a 200 square foot enclosed balcony/porch.

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The units will range between 865 square feet and 1150 square feet. In addition, each unit will have at least a 200 square foot enclosed balcony/porch.

That's an awesome amenity for urban housing to boast.

Here's a picture of the project now. I was searching for a friend on what exactly this was going to be and found this OKC Talk post. I thought you guys would appreciate this shot. 1200 I don't use filters on photos very often, but I did on this one - a 1960s twist. Thanks, jen

Love these!

Thanks Jen!

I wonder if they are accepting applications yet?

All,
go to the developers site: dwbllc.com to get leasing information. They are starting to pre-lease..
Larry

Here are some photos of the older, renovated building to the east:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/18classenliving.jpg

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/18classenkitchen.jpg

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/18classenbath.jpg

I think this was my apartment a few years, 2004 to be precise. Way before the remodeling, haha. My rent there at the time was $500 all bills paid, or I could have chose to pay $400 and all the bills. Being 18 and no creit or money for the deposits, I chose the $500 option. I say this so maybe you can gauge what the new units/remodeled units will go for.

Here are some photos of the older, renovated building to the east:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/18classenliving.jpg

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/18classenkitchen.jpg

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/18classenbath.jpg

In nearby neighborhoods, a 1BR in a building like this goes for about 500-600 month. I'm curious what theses go for.

They are probably in line with the only true comps nearby, the Classen, and a few smaller properties few on here probably even know about.

They are probably in line with the only true comps nearby, the Classen, and a few smaller properties few on here probably even know about.

I meant the units in the existing building.

They are working on the balconies

1229

Per flyer for the property:

3 floors with 12 units total:

6 units (2 on each floor) - 865 square feet with 280 square feet covered patio: $1100 to $1400

2 units (1st floor) - 937 square feet with 208 square feet covered patio: $1170 to $1450

4 units (2 on 2nd floor and 2 on 3rd floor) - 1144 square feet with 208 square feet covered patio: $1450 to $1700

Visit the website for contact info: http://www.dwbllc.com/

As others have mentioned they're pre-leasing and I believe they hope to open sometime in May.

Looking at the site plan it looks as if this was to go all the way to the corner but clearly it does not. Can anyone explain that difference?

I went by the other day and they look good. They have really nice-sized balconies.

Looking at the site plan it looks as if this was to go all the way to the corner but clearly it does not. Can anyone explain that difference?

I think that area is just for a future project(s) if these do well for them.

Oh. hope this does do well. The proximity to the plaza district is a plus.

These are from yesterday. They are putting the finishing touches on the landscaping and then these places should be ready to go any time.

I was really impressed with the units themselves, as they seem huge on the inside and each features a quite large balcony or patio. The kitchens are very Level-esque.



Looking southeast:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/18th61912a.jpg


Looking northeast:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/18th61912b.jpg


Looking northwest:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/18th61912c.jpg


Close up of one of the metal perforated screens:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/18th61912d.jpg


Lobby with stained concrete floors - very industrial looking.
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/18th61912e.jpg


2nd floor landing.
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/18th61912f.jpg


2nd floor NW unit looking NE front entry:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/18th61912g.jpg


This is from about where the bucket is in the photo above, looking back towards kitchen. The sliding door is to the small bathroom. Note the full bank of white storage cabinets. There are no walls in the space other than for the bathroom.
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/18th61912h.jpg


Another of the kitchen:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/18th61912i.jpg


Sliding bathroom door and large, metal entry door:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/18th61912j.jpg


Bathroom:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/18th61912k.jpg


Balcony:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/18th61912l.jpg

Very nice!

Kitchen looks better than level, at least the appliances match.

Great balconies!

Kitchen looks better than level, at least the appliances match.

Ha, was just about to say.. no cheapo white.

These units look fantastic. The frosted glass is exactly the visual improvement we speculated it would be (it's nice when these things turn out as rendered).

I agree about the kitchen being nicer and it certainly has more cabinet or storage space than the Level. That is really an amazingly large balcony for units like this.

There looks like more cabinets but remember this is all the storage in the entire unit -- no walls, no closets (bedroom or hall) and almost no storage in the bathroom.

I know people in these units probably don't cook, per se, but electric ranges are awful.

Other than that, it looks pretty nice.

I know people in these units probably don't cook, per se, but electric ranges are awful.

Other than that, it looks pretty nice.

if you live in an apt your odds of getting anything other than an electric range are pretty much 0

There looks like more cabinets but remember this is all the storage in the entire unit -- no walls, no closets (bedroom or hall) and almost no storage in the bathroom.

No closets of any kind? That's kinda dumb

That long bank of floor-to-ceiling cabinets are meant to be used as wardrobes.

if you live in an apt your odds of getting anything other than an electric range are pretty much 0

The Bertazonni Gas Ranges at 7 at Crown Heights are outstanding. Maybe one of the big differences between condos and apartments.

The Bertazonni Gas Ranges at 7 at Crown Heights are outstanding. Maybe one of the big differences between condos and apartments.

for sure .. apt owners don't want to take the extra liability that comes with gas cook tops ......

There looks like more cabinets but remember this is all the storage in the entire unit -- no walls, no closets (bedroom or hall) and almost no storage in the bathroom.

If someone was just talking about kitchen cabinet space (which is very important to me) this shows much more than Level.

Random thought: the exterior design looks like a Rubik's cube.

The units work like one too. :)

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just to let everyone know these are officially open..available now are two units on the 2nd floor: NE & NW, one unit on the third floor: NE. The 1st floor will be ready and availble in about another week or so..
contact info:
www.dwbllc.com
405-824-8310
405-410-3948

we appreciate the support from the community and in turn we support the community!
Larry P
Fitzsimmons Architects

Of all of the available units, only 3 are left?

Of all of the available units, only 3 are left?

I could be wrong, but I think he's saying is that even though it's officially open, only three units are ready and the rest will be ready soon.

FYI
Available Units right now: 3rd Floor NE, 2nd Floor NE & NW
1st Floor will be ready in a week or so (receiving final tweaks..)

Thanks
Larry P

FYI
Available Units right now: 3rd Floor NE, 2nd Floor NE & NW
1st Floor will be ready in a week or so (receiving final tweaks..)

Thanks
Larry P

This is confusing to me. My question as a big fan of this project is how many units are leased?

To be honest, I think they're asking too much for the location. It's not really in walking distance to anything established yet. Maybe when 23rd street is fully realized in a few years... That's not to say I don't think they did a great job. I think the building itself is fantastic.

I think you guys underestimate what you can safely and leisurely walk to from there. It's equidistant to 23rd and 16th. Within just three blocks is Someplace Else Deli, City Bites, Cafe Antigua, a GROCERY STORE lol, supposedly a new Braum's facility, a Walgreen's, the Gold Dome, et al.

It's not really equidistant from 23rd and 16th, but they're both under a mile away. You can walk to a lot of stuff, and a bike pretty much guarantees you access to most of your daily activities (Food, entertainment, bank, etc.)

It's also under a mile away from OCU, so between Lyric at Plaza and OCU, you have plenty of opportunities to watch shows/performances within walking distance. Plaza gives a couple nice adult beverage options.

To be honest, I think they're asking too much for the location. It's not really in walking distance to anything established yet. Maybe when 23rd street is fully realized in a few years... That's not to say I don't think they did a great job. I think the building itself is fantastic.

Out of curiosity, what are these leasing for? You said they're asking too much, and I haven't read the entire thread, so now I'm curious, is it really high or something?

I think you guys underestimate what you can safely and leisurely walk to from there. It's equidistant to 23rd and 16th. Within just three blocks is Someplace Else Deli, City Bites, Cafe Antigua, a GROCERY STORE lol, supposedly a new Braum's facility, a Walgreen's, the Gold Dome, et al.

You also forgot a great Chinese buffet restaurant, T-Mobile, Chase bank, Sees Design, and hair salon.

It's not really equidistant from 23rd and 16th, but they're both under a mile away. You can walk to a lot of stuff, and a bike pretty much guarantees you access to most of your daily activities (Food, entertainment, bank, etc.)

It's also under a mile away from OCU, so between Lyric at Plaza and OCU, you have plenty of opportunities to watch shows/performances within walking distance. Plaza gives a couple nice adult beverage options.

"Under a mile" ??

It's 2 blocks to 16th. It's 5 blocks to 23rd. Miles aren't even relevant for those distances..

Can any of you answer my question? It's post 231 - just a few posts away.

Per flyer for the property:

3 floors with 12 units total:

6 units (2 on each floor) - 865 square feet with 280 square feet covered patio: $1100 to $1400

2 units (1st floor) - 937 square feet with 208 square feet covered patio: $1170 to $1450

4 units (2 on 2nd floor and 2 on 3rd floor) - 1144 square feet with 208 square feet covered patio: $1450 to $1700

Visit the website for contact info: http://www.dwbllc.com/

As others have mentioned they're pre-leasing and I believe they hope to open sometime in May.

Essentially equivalent to park harvey prices. I mean, it's not exorbitant, but park harvey is closer to a lot more. I admit I didn't really consider Plaza when I made my prior post, but if we're honest, the area you'd walk through to get to Plaza from these apartments is beautiful in parts and jarringly unkempt in others.

Edit: Also, when I think about walking distance, I think more about leisure time (e.g., mid-tier and above dining, libraries, museums, nightlife). I'd rather live close to where I play and pick up the essentials on the way home from work than live a stone's throw away from walgreens.

Sid, you're right. My comments should be tempered with the understanding that I'm just espousing the perspective that this location is very underrated, and just trying to encourage people to see what they're glossing over.

BDK, I think you've identified why the walkability perception here is worse than reality in converse to walkability reality being worse than perception with the Park Harvey. Downtown has gravitas and you don't seem to immediately notice walking a few hundred feet more or lacking essentials, whereas around Classen and 18th all you have nearby is essentials and the area totally lacks gravitas and beautification so the perception is to short-change its potential.

I totally agree this area has loads of potential, and I think it will be met. I just think the asking price for the apartments is a bit high for where the area is at this specific moment in time.

I guess I don't blog enough and assumed number of units of the building etc were already known..

AVAILABLE UNITS: 3rd Floor NE Unit, 2nd Floor NE & NW Units (3 units)
First Floor will be available in a week or so (4 units)

So, if Jack has 12 units and there are 3 units available + 4 units almost available then how many units does Jack have rented? :-)

LP

I guess I don't blog enough and assumed number of units of the building etc were already known..

AVAILABLE UNITS: 3rd Floor NE Unit, 2nd Floor NE & NW Units (3 units)
First Floor will be available in a week or so (4 units)

So, if Jack has 12 units and there are 3 units available + 4 units almost available then how many units does Jack have rented? :-)

LP

Zero, cause 5 units are not anywhere near available ;-).

I totally agree this area has loads of potential, and I think it will be met. I just think the asking price for the apartments is a bit high for where the area is at this specific moment in time.

I think we can reasonably agree that this project is slightly ahead of its time for the neighborhood, but I still think the price is okay for the quality of the units. They are unique units, as well - you won't be able to get such a modular, open floor plan in any similar new developments.

So to summarize-

the building has 12 units
5 are already rented
3 others are immediately available
4 will be available within a week or two
12 total

Posted something, then changed my mind.

I totally agree this area has loads of potential, and I think it will be met. I just think the asking price for the apartments is a bit high for where the area is at this specific moment in time.

I agree. I live in a newly renovated, 2bd, 1000 sf flat in a historic building pretty much IN the plaza district and I pay significantly less than $1000 every month.

Rent is completely and perfectly dictated by the market.

Landlords can only charge what people are willing to pay and will always make adjustments to keep vacancy high.

If they get the rents they are asking, not only is that a good sign in general it will encourage more development.

Perhaps this is the top-first approach going first with the development that wouldn't otherwise come bottom-up, which I guess is great as long as its organic and not city-pushed.

We all know this was not city-pushed.

We were limited by the city on setbacks and height. Underground parking is cost prohibitive in a development this size (at least for us). We appreciate all the support!

About a month ago, there was a fire on two of the original brownstones behind this project on 17th street. Very sad to lose more of the few remaining brownstones in this city.