They'll never have a movie theater, a Tapwerks, a Bourbon Street, a Brix, etc. Mid, you're just assuming more people WON'T come. All of a sudden the families at Marble Slab will disappear? #3 is not a safe assumption whatsoever. I don't think you gamble. I thin you have a narrow view of how casual gamers behave.

And in the case more people AREN"T coming, it's because Bricktown is dying from strong external forces unrelated to the presence of a casino.

i remember when people where complaining about coyote ugly going in, saying it was going to bring unwanted people to the area, and crime would go up lol... so has it?

i remember when people where complaining about coyote ugly going in, saying it was going to bring unwanted people to the area, and crime would go up lol... so has it?

I'm fine with Coyote Ugly.

Definitely not fine with the Jersey Shore douchefest at America's Bar if that's still around.

I wasnt talking a specific person when i mention some people where complaining about coyote ugly.. just mainly saying i have heard the (it will bring crime, and bad people ) over and over again.. we do need more entertainment in bricktown likea dave and busters, or something like that madam tuso wax museum, and fun stuff like that to attract more tourist to stay more than a couple hours in downtown and bricktown area

Mid, you're just assuming more people WON'T come.

You're right about one thing. I don't gamble. My money is in the stock market... so maybe I'm the dummy?

Seriously though, casinos have restaurants. I can't imagine the restaurants on the canal could compete in quality or price with what you find in a casino. Now, we can chalk them up as free market casualties, but I don't think that's what we're looking for in an entertainment district.

So Matthew, are you saying you don't think a real casino wouldn't have comparable restaurants and clubs to the ones you mention? As you stated, people go there not just to gamble, so it's assumable that comparable restaurants, clubs and entertainment would be included.

As far as crime, you'd be ignorant to think it doesn't come with crime, especially white collar. OKC's selling point is that it's a family friendly place, not many big league cities can say that. Its in our cards, were not going to be a Vegas, NOLA, or a riverboat casino in STL. While your at it, how well is Detroit doing with it's MGM Grand and other casinos?

some casinos have live entertainment on the weekend, shows, to bad there is not any that is like vegas here in oklahoma where they have upscale shopping in the casinos.. if they could do it right, i think a casino with all the bells and whistles would do great in bricktown.. casino with 7 restaurants, 4 bars, live entertainment , theater, kids quest, shopping area. i think it would be great thing for the city.. to all those who dislike the idea of a casino, simply stay out of it (walk on by)

yeah thats what people said 20 years ago about a river-canal running through downtown okc area, you never know what can happen in okc. If someone did then by all means please write a book about what is going to happen in okc between 2012-2025. I would be first in line to buy a copy!

You're right about one thing. I don't gamble. My money is in the stock market... so maybe I'm the dummy?

Seriously though, casinos have restaurants. I can't imagine the restaurants on the canal could compete in quality or price with what you find in a casino. Now, we can chalk them up as free market casualties, but I don't think that's what we're looking for in an entertainment district.

You can't avoid free market casualties. And honestly Mid, the restaurants in OK casinos are NOT good. Trattoria il Centro and Iguana and Bourbon Street have nothing to fear. Sometimes we'll choke down the buffet at Remington. But that's because me and my old lady get the shakes if we're away from the machines for too long... ;)

I don't think you gamble. I thin you have a narrow view of how casual gamers behave.

The problem is not the casual gambler.

The problem is not the casual gambler.

The casual gambler is the vast vast majority of gamblers iin Oklahoma. What's the problem, Kerry. What are you scared of today?