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progressiveboy 02-15-2011, 09:46 PM 425 N. Oklahoma Ave. (http://goo.gl/maps/TqzEC)
owner=Ron Bradshaw
cost=$16 million
architect= Jack C. Irwin (Dallas)
contractor= NE Construction (http://www.neconstruction.net/)
height=4-story
139 apartments + parking garage
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/maywood1wiki1.jpg
Information & Latest News
7/26/12 Building permit for construction staging area at 8 NE 4th
5/17/12 Final approval by Downtown Design Review Committee
2/16/11: Apartments planned for Deep Deuce (http://newsok.com/new-apartment-complex-proposed-for-oklahoma-citys-deep-deuce/article/3541208?custom_click=lead_story_title)
Links
County Assessor Record (http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/Searches/AN-R.asp?ACCOUNTNO=R208591000)
Official Website (http://www.themaywoodapts.com/index.html)
Gallery
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metro 02-15-2011, 09:52 PM Great news, but don't tell Steve I read the article, after all I dont read the Oklahoman.
SkyWestOKC 02-15-2011, 10:03 PM Cool! Great infill project! Deep Deuce is definitely starting to build some density and momentum as well. Interested and anxious to see some renderings.
TStheThird 02-15-2011, 10:21 PM I was happy to see this quote.
"We might have gotten the cart before the horse, and should have done some rental before doing for-sale.”
It seems the developers are finally realizing that they need to build a critical mass of rental units to bring in the amenities to make downtown attractive to those wanting high end condos... at least I hope.
leprechaun 02-15-2011, 10:27 PM Wow! I didn't expect to see another announcement for housing in Deep Deuce so soon. Judging from the information provided so far this looks like another quality project. The pool is nice and everything, but the best news is the two levels of underground parking. These developers seem to actually have a decent grasp of what is actually urban, as opposed to some of the faux urban projects like The Hill. If these are built as planned this area will have exceeded my expectations. I never expected the developers of this area to follow through with creating a walkable, mixed use district. Sounds like a grocery store in the area is almost inevitable now.
betts 02-15-2011, 11:33 PM With Maywood and Deep Deuce with very little open land left, this will be a real urban neighborhood. I'm pleased about the increased density. The grocery store will be nice, but was never as important to me as others. I'm still hoping for Crescent Market downtown or in Midtown.
dankrutka 02-15-2011, 11:40 PM Awesome! This is perfect for this area. Deep Deuce is starting to develop some real synergy!
blangtang 02-16-2011, 12:02 AM Is there a link to the OCURA agenda for this item? I would like to read more about it, but in my plugging around I couldnt find the where or when of the meeting referenced in the newspaper story.
Spartan 02-16-2011, 02:01 AM It will be in City Place, probably around noon. Just a guess.
Great project. Interesting that Bradshaw is moving forward sooner than expected, before he sold all his units on 2nd Street. So this is going to back up to the Brownstones, so I guess it won't be a full block like LEVEL.
At 139-units, $16M this seems like a more upscale project than LEVEL. The avg cost per unit is $115,000 which is pretty high for apartments. I bet rents will be up there with the Legacy at Arts Quarter.
Kerry 02-16-2011, 06:55 AM The pool is nice and everything, but the best news is the two levels of underground parking.
I don't think it will be underground parking. I think it will be two levels of above-ground parking with the apartments being on top of that making the structure 4 to 6 stories total. I wonder if they will include any kind of retail space to mask the parking garage at the sidewalk.
metro 02-16-2011, 08:52 AM Kerry, I'm wondering the same thing too, if the underground parking is cost prohibitive and they go above ground instead. It'd be nice for the additional structure height, and they could make a nice design with street retail.
Kerry 02-16-2011, 09:04 AM I see no reason to make underground parking.
lasomeday 02-16-2011, 09:06 AM Have you guys searched for projects by the Architect Jack C. Irwin? I only found this one and I can't seem to get the image to come up. It is a just a house....
http://texashomeandliving.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=180:the-house-that-jack-built&catid=14:homes&Itemid=36
okclee 02-16-2011, 09:22 AM Kerry, ....If anyone can find "projects by Architect, Jack C. Irwin", I am sure it will be you?
betts 02-16-2011, 10:11 AM At least as originally planned, this building would not back all the way up to the Brownstones. I talked to Ron about this project several months ago and he said they still plan one more row of Brownstones, which I assume would back up to my alley.
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/deepdeuce2.jpg
Spartan 02-16-2011, 10:22 AM If that's the case, betts, then this is going to be a pretty vertical project to get 140 units on half a city block.
Kerry 02-16-2011, 10:43 AM Kerry, ....If anyone can find "projects by Architect, Jack C. Irwin", I am sure it will be you?
I did find this earlier this morning. Very interesting in retrospect. This is an interview by Steve L. with one of the guys involved with new apartments. It was done on May 14, 2010.
http://newsok.com/multimedia/video/85749762001
Here is some other items from some planning changes related to this project. Go to the bottom of the list and look for Colony Development (CE-789).
http://www.okc.gov/agendapub/meeting.aspx?cabinet=published_meetings&docid=26151
G.Walker 02-16-2011, 10:45 AM I like this quote from the article:
“He understands high-density living. This will have a pool, patio area, two levels of parking underneath, a dog run area, and it will be very urban.”
G.Walker 02-16-2011, 10:50 AM If that's the case, betts, then this is going to be a pretty vertical project to get 140 units on half a city block.
Yep, we are looking at a nice urban mid-rise...probably 8 to 10 stories high...
wsucougz 02-16-2011, 10:50 AM Prediction: when the Aloft, Level and this new complex start going up, the remaining for sale brownstones will not last long. I really hope to see more of them built.
lasomeday 02-16-2011, 10:55 AM Yeah, more brownstones would be awesome. It would be cool if they changed the style just a little bit to add a little more variety to the streetscape. I love the ones they have but a little change would add to the urban feel.
Kerry 02-16-2011, 10:55 AM I think you are correct wsucougz. I don't think people fully appreciate at how fast downtown is going to fill in once the pieces are in place. Not to open old wounds, but this is why I was saying Bricktown might very well 'design standard' themselves right out business once all these new areas come on line. You have to strike while the iron is hot and Bricktown had the only iron in town for a long time.
My guess is this new building will by 5 stories (2 parking, 3 apartments).
okclee 02-16-2011, 10:55 AM The Old Baptist Church building and surrounding vacant land at 3rd and walnut is looking prime!
Any ideas or suggestions?
G.Walker 02-16-2011, 10:57 AM The Old Baptist Church building and surrounding vacant land at 3rd and walnut is looking prime!
Any ideas or suggestions?
A friend of mine that I work with attends that church on the corner of 3rd and Walnut, called New Covenant Life, and she has mentioned all the development in Deep Deuce, but also stated they are not going anywhere for nobody but Jesus! lol...as they own that property it sits on and north adjacent gravel parking lot...
When I visited last fall, I said I thought the Deep Deuce / Triangle area was getting very close to critical mass and becoming perhaps OKC's first true urban neighborhood.
With these three new projects that will definitely be the case.
betts 02-16-2011, 10:59 AM If that's the case, betts, then this is going to be a pretty vertical project to get 140 units on half a city block.
I agree. We will see when the design is presented. If I weren't out of town I would go to the meeting, as clearly this is of significant interest to me.
okclee 02-16-2011, 11:01 AM A friend of mine that I work with attends that church on the corner of 3 and Walnut, called New Covenant Life, and she has mentioned all the development in Deep Deuce, but also stated they are not going anywhere for nobody but Jesus! lol...as they own that property it sits on and north adjacent gravel parking lot...
I am not suggesting they go anywhere, I was only stating how hot this real estate is. They may get an offer that they can't refuse.
betts 02-16-2011, 11:03 AM A friend of mine that I work with attends that church on the corner of 3rd and Walnut, called New Covenant Life, and she has mentioned all the development in Deep Deuce, but also stated they are not going anywhere for nobody but Jesus! lol...as they own that property it sits on and north adjacent gravel parking lot...
That's interesting, because I'd heard the possibility that it or the adjacent parking lot was going to become a music venue. It is a very active church, however, and I would hate to see it repurposed. I like walking by and seeing people coming and going and congregating on the grounds outside the church.
Richard at Remax 02-16-2011, 11:06 AM If you look at the renderings in the paper it looks like they are 4-5 stories
Kerry 02-16-2011, 11:08 AM The Old Baptist Church building and surrounding vacant land at 3rd and walnut is looking prime!
Any ideas or suggestions?
Urban renewal owns about 1/3 of that land. Calvary Baptist church owns another sizeable portion. Another portion is owned OIC Inc which is located just across 3rd street from the property.
http://www.oicofoklahomacounty.org/
With three different property owners (2 non-profits and OCURA) - that block will be vacant for a long time. The OCURA land will go to bid at least 3 times with multiple extensions.
BoulderSooner 02-16-2011, 11:14 AM If that's the case, betts, then this is going to be a pretty vertical project to get 140 units on half a city block.
LEVEL has a full block and they only have a 222 units with the parking taking up seperate land from the units..
i would expect this to be no more than 6 stories including the parking
betts 02-16-2011, 11:14 AM If you look at the renderings in the paper it looks like they are 4-5 stories
Where do you see renderings? I can only look at the article online, since I'm out of town, and there's nothing but a city skyline pictured in the article.
BoulderSooner 02-16-2011, 11:16 AM That's interesting, because I'd heard the possibility that it or the adjacent parking lot was going to become a music venue. It is a very active church, however, and I would hate to see it repurposed. I like walking by and seeing people coming and going and congregating on the grounds outside the church.
i had heard the same thing .. i wonder if there is an agreement to buy the church building already
okclee 02-16-2011, 11:16 AM That is funny; worthy cook.
None of us online has actually seen the hard copy of the paper?
Looks like 4 levels of apartments above two levels of parking:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/deepdeuceapt1.jpg
okclee 02-16-2011, 11:21 AM I give it my online stamp of approval!
What else do you have Mr. Bradshaw?
Looks a lot like the Maywood Lofts.
BoulderSooner 02-16-2011, 11:26 AM Looks like 4 levels of apartments above two levels of parking:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/deepdeuceapt1.jpg
looks like it has 4 levels of housing with the west end being a full 5 stories off the ground and the east end being 4 stories off the ground .. with 1 level of parking fully underground and another half underground as you move up the property.
G.Walker 02-16-2011, 11:28 AM looks like it has 4 levels of housing with the west end being a full 5 stories off the ground and the east end being 4 stories off the ground .. with 1 level of parking fully underground and another half underground as you move up the property.
this pic is probably not even for our project, lol...how do we know its for OKC? just looks like a pic, could be from anywhere or anything...not too legit to me...I am not stamping this rendering...
betts 02-16-2011, 11:29 AM I wonder if that's two different colors of brick we're seeing, or if the top is stucco.....hopefully not EIFS. I certainly don't want to have to look at cheesy apartments out my back windows. Also, hoping the dog run is for all of us, as well as the pool. Those are two things I've been telling them would be nice for our complex.
G. Walker, that picture is from the article in the Oklahoman and that is Ron Bradshaw standing next to the rendering.
G.Walker 02-16-2011, 11:41 AM Oh ok, well then I am not too impressed...doesn't look urban or high density...
wsucougz 02-16-2011, 11:43 AM Looks like 4 levels of apartments above two levels of parking:
http://www.tnttri.com/OKCTalk/deepdeuceapt1.jpg
The Lofts at Maywood II, Electric Boogaloo.
betts 02-16-2011, 11:59 AM Why bother with a new architect? Although I will say..."What is urban?" At least they don't look like the Legacy or Tannebaum's apartments on Lincoln.
Kerry 02-16-2011, 12:10 PM Oh ok, well then I am not too impressed...doesn't look urban or high density...
It looks urban and high density to me. No massive surface parking lot and vertical development thoughout the entire floor plan.
Steve 02-16-2011, 02:06 PM A friend of mine that I work with attends that church on the corner of 3rd and Walnut, called New Covenant Life, and she has mentioned all the development in Deep Deuce, but also stated they are not going anywhere for nobody but Jesus! lol...as they own that property it sits on and north adjacent gravel parking lot...
Actually, they've made it quite clear in the real estate community they're willing to move, and I'm told they have stated their price at $1.6 million
Kerry 02-16-2011, 02:23 PM actually, they've made it quite clear in the real estate community they're willing to move, and i'm told they have stated their price at $1.6 million
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Patrick 02-16-2011, 02:44 PM Ummm, isn't that building a historic landmark?
Patrick 02-16-2011, 02:45 PM I think you are correct wsucougz. I don't think people fully appreciate at how fast downtown is going to fill in once the pieces are in place. Not to open old wounds, but this is why I was saying Bricktown might very well 'design standard' themselves right out business once all these new areas come on line. You have to strike while the iron is hot and Bricktown had the only iron in town for a long time.
My guess is this new building will by 5 stories (2 parking, 3 apartments).
You can't even begin to compare Deep Deuce to Bricktown. The former is mostly a residential area, the latter is an entertainment district.
Architect2010 02-16-2011, 02:54 PM And to further the point. DeepDeuce/Maywood Park are directly adjacent to Bricktown; in fact, one of the entry vestibules into Bricktown when coming south from 235 is from DD/MP. If this area gentrifies, densifies, and grows in population like it has been, then it ONLY helps Bricktown. Finally, we have plenty of the "rooftops" we've been wanting for so long in a central location. As Deep Deuce really finishes out, demand increases and hopefully we'll see some developments "spill" into Bricktown and further north along Oklahoma and Broadway.
Now if DeepDeuce was an entertainment district, then I'd be worried about Bricktown Kerry. But as it is, they go hand-in-hand. I think there is real synergy between the two districts.
Spartan 02-16-2011, 03:50 PM You can't even begin to compare Deep Deuce to Bricktown. The former is mostly a residential area, the latter is an entertainment district.
What? So what should Deep Deuce be compared to...Lakeridge Run?
jbrown84 02-16-2011, 03:56 PM Awesome! Deep Deuce is on a roll.
circuitboard 02-16-2011, 04:25 PM This is really exciting! If both complexes turn out to be high quality with great amenities, then we just might sell our home out North and rent downtown for a while until we can afford a condo. We bought a house further north, because we wanted a certain sq footage with garage. The condos at the time were way high, and the apartments did not have good parking, nice garages or high quality amenities for that matter.
Patrick 02-16-2011, 04:34 PM What? So what should Deep Deuce be compared to...Lakeridge Run?
Deep Deuce is an urban residential area. Lakeridge Run is not. Deep Deuce doesn't have too many entertainment options, and Bricktown has little residential.
Kerry 02-16-2011, 04:57 PM You can't even begin to compare Deep Deuce to Bricktown.
You can say that again.
Snowman 02-16-2011, 05:09 PM We need to prioritize pedestrian accessibility issues between Bricktown and Deep Deuce. Here is a map of north/south areas that don't have sidewalks.
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/JP3xPstB31Fi5YQhbtzQ3A?feat=directlink
Though they could be better but it is well above most of the city, they are present in all the new developments in both districts and flank both sides of Mickey Mantle/Walnut.
shane453 02-20-2011, 01:33 PM Are we sure the picture of Bradshaw with the architectural sketches is this project? I'm almost positive that it is Maywood Lofts. The slope goes down left to right because it is the back elevation of the 2nd Street project.
Yes, those renderings are for this project. It's due north of Maywood Lofts and no doubt the properties share the same type of slope.
Caption reads: "Ron Bradshaw shows elevations of an apartment complex set to be built this summer."
Spartan 02-20-2011, 04:29 PM So it's on the west side of Oklahoma Ave.?
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