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soonerguru 07-19-2013, 12:06 PM Good grief, the exposed styrofoam with peeling paint on the ends of the brownstones is just awful. Hopefully the dereliction of those properties won't make it too difficult to attract quality renters to the neighborhood.
I completely agree. It is stunningly ugly. Obviously their expansion plans are of the table for a while so they should do something to address this now. It's weird how much some of us have scrutinized Level, the 2nd Street Lofts, Deep Deuce, etc. when the brownstones themselves look the most blighted. Hail, wind, sun, The Great Recession, whatever the reason, they need to address this. It can't be helping them sell units.
Urbanized 07-19-2013, 12:11 PM I've talked to the developer until I'm blue in the face. Now the neighborhood association will have to see if it has teeth. Of course if he gets to build the flats he wants to build there will be no more peeling ends. If not, as I've been telling him for years, they need to be bricked. But, we've got 3 townhouses being custom finished right now and there's only one left unfinished. The quality of the product is unquestioned. If the developers had stuck to their plan like Bill Canfield did and not panicked and sold a bunch of land, finished the ends and finished out a few of the townhouses, we would likely be doing what the Hill is doing. Our developers had vision. Their plan for western Deep Deuce was ambitious and exciting back when they started, and definitely more urban than the Hill. But, they either didn't have the chutzpah or money to see it through the lean years. We all love our houses though and for me, the ability to customize from the framing up was the appeal.
The second sentence in my post was just a wry joke, which I will admit was largely directed at you. I don't really fear the condition of the ends will keep people from moving to the district. I know the brownstones are high quality, and really nice places, having walked through them a few times and seeing first-hand. That said, the peeling paint and exposed styrofoam really is an embarrassment. I would be shocked if it cost much more than a grand to slap another coat of paint on them until they are (hopefully) covered by neighboring buildings.
Urbanized 07-19-2013, 12:18 PM I completely agree. It is stunningly ugly. Obviously their expansion plans are of the table for a while so they should do something to address this now. It's weird how much some of us have scrutinized Level, the 2nd Street Lofts, Deep Deuce, etc. when the brownstones themselves look the most blighted. Hail, wind, sun, The Great Recession, whatever the reason, they need to address this. It can't be helping them sell units.
Yep. I stand by my first sentence. The second one was just a pot-stirrer. But you do bring up an interesting point regarding whether the blight on those ends might not be keeping potential buyers from considering the brownstones themselves.
betts 07-19-2013, 03:16 PM Yep. I stand by my first sentence. The second one was just a pot-stirrer. But you do bring up an interesting point regarding whether the blight on those ends might not be keeping potential buyers from considering the brownstones themselves.
I definitely think it does. Our landscaping was not maintained for years either. I took care of my own until recently, when our new homeowner's association took over. That's been my point for years, when trying to get the developers to brick the ends and water the plants. For a year or two the Hill had hanging tarpaper and partially applied siding. Their townhouses weren't selling either and sales did not pick up until they completely finished the existing homes. To be sure, the Hill has homes with price points 2/3 of the smallest brownstone, which probably helped as well. They have more of a standard house feel than a traditional brownstone feel, as the living and dining areas are on the first floor rather than the second. I like the brownstone arrangement but not everyone does. There were rumors that elevators werent available in the brownstones, which was definitely incorrect prior to finishing out the units. I have an elevator. But the price per square foot is the same, so it shouldn't be a deterrent if you're looking for more square footage. The location of the Hill is certainly no better, and I consider it worse. You have less train noise but almost constant highway noise. I think that in the overall analysis, the poor maintenance of those ends, as well as landscape neglect, had a significantly negative impact on Brownstone sales initially.
G.Walker 07-30-2013, 01:24 PM Noticed on my lunch some ugly, brownish orange brick going up, ugh!
dankrutka 07-30-2013, 01:29 PM This is from @dtOKCbuilds on Twitter.
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UnFrSaKn 09-17-2013, 12:47 PM Maywood Apartments (September 16 2013) - a set on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/williamhider/sets/72157635589928951/)
UnFrSaKn 10-03-2013, 04:01 PM October 3 2013
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3690/10074049295_1978a85220_b.jpg
GoThunder 10-03-2013, 05:43 PM These are coming along very quickly. I'm surprised they aren't pre-leasing yet and their website isn't done.
BoulderSooner 10-03-2013, 07:01 PM These are coming along very quickly. I'm surprised they aren't pre-leasing yet and their website isn't done.
They already started preleaseing
Anonymous. 10-04-2013, 09:27 AM They already started preleaseing
How? There isn't even contact information listed and the website is empty. Heck there isn't even prices on the units.
GoThunder 10-04-2013, 09:43 AM How? There isn't even contact information listed and the website is empty. Heck there isn't even prices on the units.
That's what I was thinking. I would love to get my name on some sort of list but haven't been able to find out how.
BoulderSooner 10-04-2013, 01:41 PM How? There isn't even contact information listed and the website is empty. Heck there isn't even prices on the units.
i will ask .. but i know a coupe of people that already put down deposits ..
OKCisOK4me 10-31-2013, 12:01 AM Railings going up on the balconies:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3773/10586254266_ab80a88843_c.jpg
Anonymous. 11-02-2013, 12:56 AM Prices and floorplans now online.
Looks like cheapest is about 600 sq ft for $1180.
All 2 bedroom units only have Juliette style balconies. One bedroom units mostly have full balconies.
Teo9969 11-02-2013, 01:14 AM The Maywood Apartments (http://www.themaywoodapts.com)
Maywood 11-12-2013, 11:47 PM Hello Everyone! Maywood is now PRE-LEASING! You may now reserve your brand new luxury apartment home. For pre-leasing information and to get on my contact list, contact Bernice Plange at maywood@sunridgeapts.net . To speak with me directly, call 405.789.3800 OR call or text 405.637.5054
Spartan 11-14-2013, 11:35 PM better than expected. good job here.
They are making great progress here:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/maywood12313.jpg
soonerguru 12-03-2013, 07:49 PM Gotta say, not a fan of orange brick with chocolate and vanilla EIFS accents. Some of the designs being deployed are big head-scratchers. I cannot imagine sinking such a fortune into a project like that and coming out with that color palette.
Those 'chocolate' patches will be covered will be covered with stone.
soonerguru 12-03-2013, 08:14 PM Those 'chocolate' patches will be covered will be covered with stone.
Well that's nice.
Urbanized 12-04-2013, 10:32 AM I drove by last night and saw a couple of units on the top floor with lights on. They weren't construction lights but instead finished light fixtures, which usually aren't installed until near the end of work on a living space. Cabinets were up, the walls appeared to be painted, and essentially the units looked finished from what I could see. So they are definitely making some progress.
Urbanized 12-04-2013, 10:35 AM Those 'chocolate' patches will be covered will be covered with stone.
Pete, I think that is the finished product. Of course it might be chocolate-colored stone. Check out the picture in this post (http://www.okctalk.com/showwiki.php?title=Maywood%20Apartments&page=12#post702161).
Actually, I was wrong about the corners being stone... They will be some sort of metal as per the design application:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/maywoodcorner.JPG
Urbanized 12-04-2013, 10:45 AM Is it possible they have since changed to flat panels? Because if you look at the photo I reference, the brown material appears to be the finished product.
Anonymous. 12-04-2013, 10:47 AM It is definitely the finished product. In person it looks okay...
betts 12-04-2013, 10:48 AM I'm quite sure the brown we're seeing is what we get. They are metal strips. Hopefully the balconies will tie this all together better.
It's kinda weird looking but I don't hate it. Probably not what I would have picked, but I'm not much of one for modern design.
HangryHippo 12-04-2013, 11:20 AM It's kinda weird looking but I don't hate it. Probably not what I would have picked, but I'm not much of one for modern design.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
From Downtown Development's Twitter feed https://twitter.com/dtOKCbuilds :
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbDqcw4CAAEPG6F.jpg:large
Snowman 12-09-2013, 05:46 PM Gotta say, not a fan of orange brick with chocolate and vanilla EIFS accents. Some of the designs being deployed are big head-scratchers. I cannot imagine sinking such a fortune into a project like that and coming out with that color palette.
It seems like a color palette picked to hide red dirt accumulation
soonerliberal 12-09-2013, 07:51 PM It seems like this would look a heck of a lot better if there was a 2-3 foot chocolate stripe going around the building at the very top.
gracefor24 12-09-2013, 09:34 PM It's like they are in competition with the Maywood Lofts for worst walkable street in Deep deuce.
Urbanized 12-09-2013, 09:40 PM Nope. They won hands down.
LockeDown42 12-10-2013, 07:09 AM It's like they are in competition with the Maywood Lofts for worst walkable street in Deep deuce.
What are you referring to when you mention the Lofts at Maywood Park?
Nope. They won hands down.
I agree. Similar to walking beside the Santa Fe parking garage.
Anonymous. 12-10-2013, 08:33 AM What are you referring to when you mention the Lofts at Maywood Park?
I'm not sure if the last few posters are referring to the physical sidewalk or the interaction with the building. @ the Maywood Lofts, there is a fence barrier in the middle of the sidewalk, perhaps this is the reference?
LockeDown42 12-10-2013, 08:41 AM That is true - I can certainly understand if it was in reference to that water main enclosure.
HangryHippo 12-10-2013, 09:38 AM It's like they are in competition with the Maywood Lofts for worst walkable street in Deep deuce.
No kidding. These two complexes are just horrid when it comes to street-level interaction.
gracefor24 12-10-2013, 10:13 AM I'm not sure if the last few posters are referring to the physical sidewalk or the interaction with the building. @ the Maywood Lofts, there is a fence barrier in the middle of the sidewalk, perhaps this is the reference?
It is the barrier but also the fact that the building doesn't address the street at all. You are walking next to a concrete wall with a weird second story retail/office strip. It's awful.
mcca7596 12-10-2013, 02:27 PM At least the 2nd phase appears like it is going to have good street interaction.
Spartan 12-11-2013, 09:45 PM It's like they are in competition with the Maywood Lofts for worst walkable street in Deep deuce.
Yeah I think the facade above eye level turned out better than expected, the facade below turned out worse.
Maywood 12-26-2013, 03:39 PM If you would like application information, please e-mail Bernice Plange at maywood@sunridgeapts.net . We are NOW LEASING! Doors will be opening soon and units are already going fast! :)
no1cub17 12-27-2013, 03:07 PM Is it just me or does it look like most of the south and west-facing units (with the nice views of downtown) are all juliette-style balconies - and the units facing nothing to the north are the full balconies? That seems really silly. Seems you could charge one heck of a premium for a multi-bedroom unit with a downtown view and full balcony? Or am I missing something?
No, some of the south-facing units will have bigger balconies as well.
You can see better on this photo:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7306/9243613301_328f23f588_b.jpg
no1cub17 12-27-2013, 04:08 PM No, some of the south-facing units will have bigger balconies as well.
You can see better on this photo:
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Cool - thanks! I can't see some of those balconies from my unit in the Maywood Lofts, so that's good to see. However, none of the west-facing units that I can tell have full balconies? That is really hard to believe. I do notice now the terrible interaction with the street this building will have. Gross.
I don't think there are full balconies on either the east or west sides.
no1cub17 12-27-2013, 05:54 PM I don't think there are full balconies on either the east or west sides.
Interesting. Really a head-scratcher why you wouldn't build full balconies on the skyline-facing sides!? Very strange. Did the developer not think this through?
OKCisOK4me 12-27-2013, 06:15 PM Interesting. Really a head-scratcher why you wouldn't build full balconies on the skyline-facing sides!? Very strange. Did the developer not think this through?
Maybe they considered the possibility of more Brownstones being built between on the strip of land to the south, thus blocking most of the views.
Getting close (courtesy catch22):
http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/5726d1388708159-maywood-apartments-maywood1214a.jpg
http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/5727d1388708160-maywood-apartments-maywood1214b.jpg
http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/5728d1388708161-maywood-apartments-maywood1214c.jpg
wsucougz 01-02-2014, 08:12 PM I guess there's always Midtown.
Yeah, this looks pretty disappointing.
The plans for the second phase look much better.
catch22 01-02-2014, 08:37 PM It isn't THAT bad in person. It is pretty blank but I don't think it acts as a barrier in any way. I think it will be okay from a walkability standpoint, but leaves some to be desired.
It's not horrible, just nothing special: a big rectangle of mostly stucco with no retail or anything else.
Not the end of the world, just a missed opportunity for something better. Phase II looks to be a huge improvement.
Chadanth 01-02-2014, 09:33 PM It's not horrible, just nothing special: a big rectangle of mostly stucco with no retail or anything else.
Not the end of the world, just a missed opportunity for something better. Phase II looks to be a huge improvement.
It's ok, it lacks street-level interaction but it also doesn't border major pedestrian routes. Hopefully phase 2 is better, as it occupies a busier corner and needs better visuals. Phase 1 is clearly still a net plus as it will add residents and potential customers for local businesses (NR among others).
catch22 01-02-2014, 09:44 PM As I was walking around DD, it actually hit me today how amazing this neighborhood will be when these projects and the ones yet to come are finished. It will be a quiet neighborhood (in a good way). Will be very pleasant to walk through. Wish I lived there!
shawnw 01-03-2014, 09:35 AM it lacks street-level interaction but it also doesn't border major pedestrian routes
Once the former Leo's opens, once OKCSEA is in place, and with this place full of people that would likely walk to AA, it could certainly become at least more of a pedestrian corridor (though 4th right there is literally one of the worst street crossings)... definitely a missed opportunity...
Lazio85 01-04-2014, 11:02 AM http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5515/11734983463_ba3d82886a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/77483833@N04/11734983463/)
Maywood Apartments (http://www.flickr.com/photos/77483833@N04/11734983463/) by lazio85 (http://www.flickr.com/people/77483833@N04/), on Flickr
Thanks Lazio!
You can see the awnings starting to go up on the east end of the property.
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