If I ran into Bates in the street with a camera, I would be tempted to tell him to go mind his own business and his own sex life, because some people are ugly and so lack adequate sex appeal to get sex for free and should have the right to pay for it as a means of getting some. I'll admit, though, there ought to be a better way to conduct business for it, then out in the open in the street.

If I was paid $3,500 a day for my services . . .
I would be gettin' all The Ho's offin the street by leading them to the nearest Food Truck.
And buying them lunch.

Much like a "drum major"--(or even a pied piper in order to avoid political compromise).

Hell . . . I'd take 'em all to the Grand Opening of The ReVamped Bellini's.
For dinner.

Sorry for the hyperbole . . .
To Bellini's for appetizers.

Or even to Katz's Deli, it there was actually such a place.
F-bsf2x-aeE

Or Bagdhad Cafe . . . =)

If I ran into Bates in the street with a camera, I would be tempted to tell him to go mind his own business and his own sex life, because some people are ugly and so lack adequate sex appeal to get sex for free and should have the right to pay for it as a means of getting some. I'll admit, though, there ought to be a better way to conduct business for it, then out in the open in the street.

And if you did, he'd bore you to death with a pedantic soliloquy about how it's all about the victims, etc, until you jumped into traffic so you wouldn't have to hear any more of it.

Also, before the admonishment starts, I realize it's generally bad form to personalize an issue, but in Master Bates' case, he himself does not separate himself from what he does, and spends a disproportionately large amount of time focusing on "brand recognition" of the Video Vigilante to further line his pockets, thus he, both personally and corporately, is fair game for all the scorn he reaps.

Any other personal observations or private wishes I have for the man probably have karmic implications if expressed openly, and thus shall remain unwritten for now.

Any right thinkin' person has to respect the opinion of anyone who can use the words soliloquy, pedantic and admonishment in a meaningful way in a single post.

I salute you, Sir.

(And not simply to avoid karmic implications if I don't . . .
just 'cuz . . . =)

And if you did, he'd bore you to death with a pedantic soliloquy about how it's all about the victims, etc, until you jumped into traffic so you wouldn't have to hear any more of it.

Please hand me a paper towel so I can clean the coffee off my screen.

New Article in the Oklahoman....


No Boundaries, Salvation Army have outreach program for Oklahoma City prostitutes

http://newsok.com/article/3642654


Theresa Briscoe drives S Robinson Avenue, a street known for prostitutes, gangs and drugs.

She sees a woman walking along the street and pulls up to her, rolling down her window.

“Hi. We just want you to know that Jesus loves you,” Briscoe says.

It’s a line she uses to start up a conversation.

She’s trying to break the ice and perhaps get the woman thinking about leaving the streets.

Briscoe knows what she is talking about.

She was once a homeless prostitute.

Now she is street outreach coordinator for No Boundaries, a group dedicated to helping victims of human trafficking.

The group is partnering with the Salvation Army in a program to be launched next month to offer these women counseling, shelter, job training and even hot chocolate from a canteen truck.

Lori Basey, No Boundaries president, has worked on the problem of human trafficking in the Congo and now wants to focus on south Oklahoma City.

“The stories we’re hearing locally are as bad as some of the stories globally,” Basey said.

Basey said Oklahoma City’s location in the center of the United States at the intersection of Interstate 40 and Interstate 35 also puts the city at a crossroads for human trafficking.

‘Stilettos to Sneakers’
Maj. Leisa Hall, Salvation Army divisional secretary for women’s ministries, said there are women who do not know there are other ways to survive.

The Salvation Army’s work to reach victims of human trafficking and children who are prostituted on the streets dates to the 1880s on the streets of London.

Hall is on an FBI committee that studies human trafficking.

At a meeting in November, she met No Boundaries justice coordinator Debi Mangrum, and plans to tackle the problem in Oklahoma City.

They hope to hit the streets with the Salvation Army in February with blankets, gloves, coats and words of love and a better way of life.

Plans are under way to develop a “Stilettos to Sneakers,” outreach program to provide counseling, guidance and job training.

About 70 people showed up at a recent volunteer meeting.

The next one is scheduled for Feb. 10 at the Salvation Army, 2808 SE 44.

The work could be dangerous, putting a volunteer or prostitute in an uncomfortable situation.

“Anyone who goes out on the streets should have some training. We know that we could do harm when we’re trying to do good,” Hall said.

‘They are victims’
Hall said up to 85 percent of prostitutes started the work before age 18, sometimes as young as 12 when they were forced to work by someone else.

“They are victims, not criminals,” Hall said. “We have a plan in place to help someone get off the streets.”

At the No Boundaries training center in south Oklahoma City, Briscoe and Debi Mangrum are working on the next step, to offer living quarters, support and vocational training to those who agree to leave the streets.

On Christmas Eve, Mangrum gave backpacks filled with hair brushes, hand-warmers, skin lotion, lipstick and lip balm to working prostitutes on S Robinson Avenue.

One woman told her it was the only Christmas gift she received.

Briscoe plans to teach volunteers how to approach people on the streets and open a conversation that could lead to someone’s transformation. She said she began working as a prostitute at age 12 and was homeless during her teenage years. She continued prostitution until age 29.

Now, 49, she wants to bring hope to the women.

“We let them know that we’re here to share the love of Jesus with them,” Briscoe said.

No Boundaries is an excellent organization whose previous efforts were in war torn 3rd world countries. This local project actually goes much further than a cup of hot chocolate and the offer of a prayer. I work closely with them (they are on the streets tonight as a matter of fact) and they are the first real effort to rehabilitate I've seen in the 15 years I've been focusing on this issue. I'm excited to see where this goes in the coming weeks, months and years.

Huffington Post picked up the article..... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/23/volunteers-offer-hot-choc_n_1224969.html

News9 did a pretty good piece on No Boundaries last night... http://www.news9.com/story/16635293/human-trafficking-operation-busted-in-okc

News9 did a pretty good piece on No Boundaries last night... http://www.news9.com/story/16635293/human-trafficking-operation-busted-in-okc

Good piece by News9, hope this group has success.

Good piece by News9, hope this group has success.

Sad reality - 'Hope" didn't want her face shown because she was sporting fresh black eyes. She claims it was at the hands of a 'John' but the reality is she has a pimp too that she often denies, so it could have been from him. Regardless, even if some of these women do this 'by choice' - we as a society have failed to give our young women 'more choices.'

Sad reality - 'Hope" didn't want her face shown because she was sporting fresh black eyes. She claims it was at the hands of a 'John' but the reality is she has a pimp too that she often denies, so it could have been from him. Regardless, even if some of these women do this 'by choice' - we as a society have failed to give our young women 'more choices.'

True, but it's never to late to start.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/prostitution-vigilante-hooked-pimping

is anybody aware that mr bates him self was arrested for staging a good show and if somebody opened my door they are getting a fist in their face

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/prostitution-vigilante-hooked-pimping

is anybody aware that mr bates him self was arrested for staging a good show and if somebody opened my door they are getting a fist in their face

A little late to the party. Are you aware how ignorant you are? My arrest has been discussed MANY times here. And while my critics may still get a chuckle out of it, I guess you missed the part where the charges were dropped, all records/police reports expunged and I never stopped my video activism even for a week. The only person who suffered from my arrest was the DA who filed the charges (Wes Lane) - as he was voted out of office and his own focus group stated that criminally charging me was one of the leading factors why they did not vote for him.

I guess you probably also missed the part where the accuser's own mother came forward to testify on my behalf because her daughter admitted to her she was lying and was hoping to cash in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHU-gUZaFd0

Anything else you'd like to enlighten us with there Einstein?

biting tongue...

biting tongue...


.oO( Doesn't that cost extra? )Oo.

.oO( Doesn't that cost extra? )Oo.

Yeah, but not like $3400 a day extra for the "media rate". Still unclear who's getting screwed here...well, OK, it's not.

A little late to the party. Are you aware how ignorant you are? My arrest has been discussed MANY times here. And while my critics may still get a chuckle out of it, I guess you missed the part where the charges were dropped, all records/police reports expunged and I never stopped my video activism even for a week. The only person who suffered from my arrest was the DA who filed the charges (Wes Lane) - as he was voted out of office and his own focus group stated that criminally charging me was one of the leading factors why they did not vote for him.

I guess you probably also missed the part where the accuser's own mother came forward to testify on my behalf because her daughter admitted to her she was lying and was hoping to cash in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHU-gUZaFd0

Anything else you'd like to enlighten us with there Einstein?

Methinks he explaineth too much (repeatedly). As in having that block of text in cut n paste form 24/7.

Methinks he explaineth too much (repeatedly). As in having that block of text in cut n paste form 24/7.

Heaven forbid someone in a forum replies, with actual facts no less, instead of just opinion and pot stirring. I don't bring it up unless someone else throws it out there. Please enlighten me as to how what I posted doesn't cut to the point I was making.

.oO( Doesn't that cost extra? )Oo.

good point *lol* I was just thinking about the irony of Brian asking "Are you aware how ignorant you are?'

good point *lol* I was just thinking about the irony of Brian asking "Are you aware how ignorant you are?'

Yet you offer nothing more enlightening than "tongue biting" and some vague reference to my supposed ignorance.... On what topic exactly? This thread is about prostitution, exactly where is my ignorance on that topic?

...exactly where is my ignorance on that topic?

Your assumption that it's that important, and your assertion that you're doing it as a community service. Those are a couple from which one might start.

Please enlighten me...

No one has that much time. However, my point was that it has the appearance of a rehearsed speech...a canned response. That you feel you have to trot it out to every faceless person on every anonymous board on the internet every time it's brought up casts some doubt on not only the veracity of your account, but of your own personal feelings about it.

Your assumption that it's that important, and your assertion that you're doing it as a community service. Those are a couple from which one might start.

Well, you're really letting your ignorance shine if you consider public prostitution and human trafficking 'not important.' I'd love to see your evidence that the topic of street prostitution and human trafficking are not important - since I'm so ignorant.

Second, please show me where I 'asserted' that my commercial video activism is a "community service." I don't recall if I've EVER made that assertion. I certainly promote awareness and exposure of the offenders, but I don't know I've ever described it as 'community service.' If some within the community see it as community service, I welcome that, if some don't, it really has no impact on me. But, I guess asking you to actually stick to facts is asking a little much.

No one has that much time. However, my point was that it has the appearance of a rehearsed speech...a canned response. That you feel you have to trot it out to every faceless person on every anonymous board on the internet every time it's brought up casts some doubt on not only the veracity of your account, but of your own personal feelings about it.

Which makes no sense whatsoever. And saying "no one has that much time" is just your way of letting me know you really don't have a point you're just exercising your bias that has no real foundation. And exactly what is 'canned' about responding with facts. Facts your can't discount.

Yet you offer nothing more enlightening than "tongue biting" and some vague reference to my supposed ignorance.... On what topic exactly? This thread is about prostitution, exactly where is my ignorance on that topic?

Thinking I should have replaced ignorance with arrogance.

Thinking I should have replaced ignorance with arrogance.

And I wouldn't argue so vehemently against that choice of words. I find people that are very confident of their opinion are or at least are seen as 'arrogant.' But the two words have nothing in common. You want to go pointing the 'arrogant' finger on this board, you're going to run out of fingers.

and my point is proven :tiphat:

and my point is proven :tiphat:

Point? That you can label me 'arrogant' and I say I don't necessarily disagree. WOW, you've accomplished a lot there with that one.

Point? That you can label me 'arrogant' and I say I don't necessarily disagree. WOW, you've accomplished a lot there with that one.

I wish I could take the credit but I can't. You've proved my point many many times in your postings. Since you like to get the last word in post away and I won't respond.

I wish I could take the credit but I can't. You've proved my point many many times in your postings. Since you like to get the last word in post away and I won't respond.

Cool

Recent (1/27/2012) video from S. Robinson Ave. showing a young pregnant girl prostituting herself and some brief clips of volunteers with No Boundaries trying to establish trust and communication with the women they come into contact with.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QWmQDWJeEw

10 seconds of No Boundaries and the rest just shameless self promotion. http://www.sturgis.com/messageboard/images/smilies/anon.gif

So Doug is known to secretly tape prostitutes and post them online? The nerve of anybody doing that :omg:

So glad to see that's what you got from the video. Not really sure who is more predictable - you or me.

Watched the video...couple questions....

How is the audience to know that lady is pregnant? looks like some ladies I know with beer bellies (lol!)...

And the older fellow...he could be her father or uncle, no?...

also how do we know she is a prostitute? watching the video, it appears to be speculation and innuendo more than anything. Its not like there's a police report with charges presented as evidence to back up any claims.

oh well i'm guessing i'm not part of the target audience for this stuff. liked the soundtrack though

Watched the video...couple questions....

How is the audience to know that lady is pregnant? looks like some ladies I know with beer bellies (lol!)...

And the older fellow...he could be her father or uncle, no?...

also how do we know she is a prostitute? watching the video, it appears to be speculation and innuendo more than anything. Its not like there's a police report with charges presented as evidence to back up any claims.

oh well i'm guessing i'm not part of the target audience for this stuff. liked the soundtrack though


In all honesty, one could pose the exact same questions to most any news story and many documentaries if one doesn't want to believe the information.

You have to apply common sense - that is, does the information being provided at least appear to be credible or at least believable. I've been doing this for 15 years - not once has a person claimed my videos were not real and as presented. I've even been sued over my videos and never lost, because the information was real, and that was the only defense required. Even when I was targeted by the DA, he never once claimed the content of my videos was fake or a lie, he simply claimed I paid to get it.

As for the woman - its actually pretty obvious she is 6-7 months pregnant. I really doubt most people would question that. But beyond that, I and the volunteers with No Boundaries have spoken to her. She doesn't hide the fact she is pregnant to anyone.

The older guy who picked her up is Carroll Douglas Fowler. I've caught him before, we have conversed both in person and via email and I did an in depth article on him on my website exposing his activities and his posting of very graphic materials involving the young girls he picks up.

I provide enough footage in the video to establish the claim she is a prostitute to most people's satisfaction. You will not find a girl walking up and down S. Robinson Ave. waving at cars and getting in and out of them that is not a prostitute. Furthermore, she has been caught twice in the act of sex with her customer. The hope is not to criminally charge her, but to get her to seek help so she doesn't have a jail baby and so the state doesn't take her baby away if she is willing to seek other options for herself. The problem right now is her pimp. We've yet to positively identify him but she has acknowledged his existence and she is usually on her phone constantly with him.

The target audience is the public at large. And more specifically those that either don't see street level prostitution as a big deal or actively participate in it. Preaching to the choir is easy, that's why I take a more controversial route - it draws more of my critics out, but art least I know they are seeing the message.

Is this the point where you jumped into traffic so you wouldn't have to hear any more of it. ? :Smiley236

Is this the point where you jumped into traffic so you wouldn't have to hear any more of it. ? :Smiley236

Yet, you return, time and time again - not to actually add anything to the topic, but to revert into some 7th grade bully mentality. Guess what Roadhawg, I get it - you're no fan of what I do. Trust me, that's no big deal to me. But the constant need of yours to followup each and every post of mine with your nonsense and juvenile behavior gets really old. I don't make it a habit to promote my activism on this site and limit it to simply responding to related threads.

At any point will you be satisfied that we (I) get it - you find satisfaction in sitting namelessly behind your computer throwing stones but providing zero content or insights to the topic at hand?

Obviously either the topic of prostitution or myself are of great interest to you. Regardless, why don't you stop with the middle school mentality and come to the next public meeting regarding the topic. Its 2/10 at the Salvation Army 2808 SE 44th Street from 6:30pm - 9pm. We had a huge turnout at the last meeting, so you can find comfort in knowing you can remain anonymous. We are pleased to welcome keynote speaker Alesia Adams,Territorial Coordinator For Human/Sex Trafficking, from Atlanta GA.

Who knows, maybe you'll learn something.

Watched your video, Mr. Bates. That's some serious royalty-free dramatic music.

That aside, as much evidence as you collected on that John, it's amazing that the police have done nothing about him. Someone with that little restraint is a danger to others.

Watched your video, Mr. Bates. That's some serious royalty-free dramatic music.

That aside, as much evidence as you collected on that John, it's amazing that the police have done nothing about him. Someone with that little restraint is a danger to others.

The sad reality is that unless he's caught in a sting there is not much law enforcement can do. I was told if I can provide some video evidence of him picking up a girl that appears underage they could most likely get a search warrant and seize his computers etc. and hopefully find incriminating evidence therein.

He moved out of his last apartment complex after his neighbors and landlord became aware of him. He also lost a lot of his friends/family connections on Facebook after they were made aware of his activities. Unfortunately, I think this has crossed over to a mental condition - as public humiliation only goes so far with him - and I don't know if he can stop without professional intervention.

i am curious as to what kind of home life you have that you have spent 15 years doing this all because some guy hit on your wife and last time i checked voyeurism is also a crime as is recording somebody with out their knowledge or consent is against the law in many places

i am curious as to what kind of home life you have that you have spent 15 years doing this all because some guy hit on your wife and last time i checked voyeurism is also a crime as is recording somebody with out their knowledge or consent is against the law in many places

I'm willing to bet my 'home life' stacks up as good or even better than most, here or otherwise. No idea what your "because some guy hit on your wife" comment was in reference to. I was already doing this before I met my wife. You'd do yourself a favor if you actually knew the elements of the crime of voyeurism and you don't need an individual's permission to videotape them in any place where there is no legal expectation of privacy.

I am curoius as to what Roadhwag, Slim Jim and Uncle Slayton find so offensive in regards to what B Bates does?

Now if he was online baiting people into sex like our OCPD Vice dept seems to like to waste their time with, I would have a problem with it. I don't care if two consenting adults want to pay for sex.

But the public street walkers, pimps, drug use and I'm sure many other crimes that come along with it need to be minimized as much as possible. I think if anything he makes the general public aware of whats going on in OKC

Just my 2 cents.

I don't think I'd be going out on much of a limb if I said their 'offense' is based on a warped reality - where - if you water down what I do to the point that nothing else is relevant then I'm some guy running around south Oklahoma City videotaping people having sex. Which is actually how I introduce myself (as an ice breaker) occasionally when I'm asked to address large groups like colleges, churches, etc.

Or, that somehow I'm no better than a pimp because I earn a living off of those videos and speaking engagements.

Its two criticisms that I've heard over the years, but doesn't really phase me and is not very realistic. The truth of the matter is, I appreciate my critics. It keeps me reflecting on what I do, why I do it and just how off base some people are when it comes to this topic. It also makes me commercially viable - something I don't try and hide (because people will use it against me either way).

Here is a video overview of South Robinson Ave that is very current. I was asked to create this for the next No Boundaries public meeting. Gives people a good idea of what is actually going on and how it effects the area.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG6L8AVWLnQ

Why S Robinson? Of all the places in OKC, what makes this THE place to be for prostitutes? I mean thankfully they got them off of Lincoln Blvd away from the Capitol but why Robinson? I lived in the area in the late 70's and it wasn't anything like that.

I don't think I'd be going out on much of a limb if I said their 'offense' is based on a warped reality - where - if you water down what I do to the point that nothing else is relevant then I'm some guy running around south Oklahoma City videotaping people having sex. Which is actually how I introduce myself (as an ice breaker) occasionally when I'm asked to address large groups like colleges, churches, etc.

Or, that somehow I'm no better than a pimp because I earn a living off of those videos and speaking engagements.

Its two criticisms that I've heard over the years, but doesn't really phase me and is not very realistic. The truth of the matter is, I appreciate my critics. It keeps me reflecting on what I do, why I do it and just how off base some people are when it comes to this topic. It also makes me commercially viable - something I don't try and hide (because people will use it against me either way).

LOL You go around video taping two people engaging in sex and you call my reality warped?

Why S Robinson? Of all the places in OKC, what makes this THE place to be for prostitutes? I mean thankfully they got them off of Lincoln Blvd away from the Capitol but why Robinson? I lived in the area in the late 70's and it wasn't anything like that.

I've interviewed several longterm residence in the area - former councilwoman Francis Lowrey, a local pastor who lives in his parent's former home near SW 44 and Robinson, a mechanic that has been there for 40+ years and others.

They all seem to agree (and this is their version) that the prostitution on S. Robinson began about 40 years ago. Robinson apparently used to be a highway (sorry, I'm not much of a historian) and was littered with small hotels. However, a much larger hotel was in the vacant field on the NW corner on SW 44 and Robinson. When the highway was no more, that is when the problems apparently began. Lots of businesses moved out and the demographic of the community began to change dramatically. The large nice hotel became a place where prostitutes frequented and the few hotels that remained also harbored many prostitutes who would stand in their doorways wearing not much at all (pretty much what was going on, on Lincoln Blvd. in the 80's).

The hotels eventually were bulldozed and the girls hit the streets as the neighborhood continued its decline and drugs became readily available in the area.

It would seem the mix of low income residence, minorities, a reluctance to call police, renters as opposed to home owners, and the prevalence of drugs has only created the perfect breeding ground (no pun intended) for prostitution to flourish.

Robinson is actually one of about a dozen locations in the metro where street prostitutes can be found daily. Robinson is just the most well known and where it happens to the largest extent.

I would actually love to make time to research the area - photos of what buildings and businesses where there, crime stats, etc. Just don't know really where to start.

There used to be a photo mural on the wall(NE corner) of an aerial view of OKC in the restaurant that was just north of the dozed motel(a rental place today I think), do you know if it is still there?

Robinson apparently used to be a highway

yep... highway 77. at sw 44th, it went east and then followed south along shields.

i can understand why some disagree with what bbates is doing, but what i don't understand is the blatant hostility. some of you people really need to cool off... cartainly you can disagree with others like mature adults.

-M

yep... highway 77. at sw 44th, it went east and then followed south along shields.

-M

I was told Robinson itself was some sort of highway or major artery into downtown. Any idea if that is true or what it was known as? I may go by the library soon and see if any photos of the area are on record.

There used to be a photo mural on the wall(NE corner) of an aerial view of OKC in the restaurant that was just north of the dozed motel(a rental place today I think), do you know if it is still there?

Interesting. Was the mural on an interior wall? If so I have no idea. If on the exterior, I've never seen it.

The lil' hovel-tel and former eatery places that are on the south side of 44th, where S Robinson hits 44th, were, if memory serves, used briefly for a film set many moons back. Drawing a blank on the name, maybe a Matt Dillion flick? Sorry for the blank space. It's been a weird couple of days.

I was told Robinson itself was some sort of highway or major artery into downtown. Any idea if that is true or what it was known as? I may go by the library soon and see if any photos of the area are on record.

like i say, highway 77 followed robinson going into downtown. that is to say, that the route of highway 77 was on robinson from sw 44th to california. shields didn't cross the river until the late 70's/early 80's, so robinson was a main route. -M

The lil' hovel-tel and former eatery places that are on the south side of 44th, where S Robinson hits 44th, were, if memory serves, used briefly for a film set many moons back. Drawing a blank on the name, maybe a Matt Dillion flick? Sorry for the blank space. It's been a weird couple of days.

can't help with the name of the flick, but a restaurant called groves was on the sw corner of 44th & rob for many years. -M

Robinson apparently used to be a highway (sorry, I'm not much of a historian) and was littered with small hotels. However, a much larger hotel was in the vacant field on the NW corner on SW 44 and Robinson. When the highway was no more, that is when the problems apparently began. Lots of businesses moved out and the demographic of the community began to change dramatically. The large nice hotel became a place where prostitutes frequented and the few hotels that remained also harbored many prostitutes who would stand in their doorways wearing not much at all (pretty much what was going on, on Lincoln Blvd. in the 80's).

The hotels eventually were bulldozed and the girls hit the streets as the neighborhood continued its decline and drugs became readily available in the area.

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I would actually love to make time to research the area - photos of what buildings and businesses where there, crime stats, etc. Just don't know really where to start.Before I35 and I40 were built, the major north-south route in this area was US 77 and the east-west one was, of course, US66. US66 came into Edmond from Arcadia, turned to the south at 2nd and Broadway, thence south to Oklahoma City via Kelly and the valley now followed by I44 from Kelly to Lincoln. It went south on Lincoln to NE 23, then west to Portland, and from there back north to NW39. The curving drive on the SW corner of NW 39 and Portland, now part of a service station, was originally a highway curve on Route 66. At one time, 66 turned north on Classen from NW 23 and ran up to NW 39, then west. The Portland route was a later version. There was also a "business route" that followed 77 on Rob down to Main Street, then back to the north on Olie and Classen.

As for US77, it merged with 66 east of Edmond and followed the 66 route to NE 23. However it turned south from 23rd onto Robinson, and went through the heart of downtown, across the river, and on to SW 44, all on Robinson. At 44th it turned east to Shields, then back south and on toward Moore and Norman.

The huge motel at SW 44 and Robinson was the Alamo Plaza. As you note it was only one of many along the two highways.

When I was the Oklahoman's police reporter for a few months during 1958 and 1959, the most active area for prostitution was downtown, mainly in the cheap hotels along California between Oklahoma and Walker. Streetwalking was almost non-existent; the bellhops in the Skirvin, Huckins, Wells-Roberts, and Biltmore took care of the upperclass, and the beer joints along Grand, California, and Reno took care of the rest.

You can find a lot of the city's history in web sites and blogs operated by two of the regulars here: Steve L. and Doug Loudenback. Check the links in their signatures...

However it turned south from 23rd onto Robinson, and went through the heart of downtown

perhaps the route changed over the years, but i thought that highway 77 went south from 23rd onto broadway, then south to california, then west to robinson and then south to 44th. -M

That's quite possible and even more likely, since Broadway was a trolley route and therefore a much wider street.

Nice work, JK. I value your posts and their great info. They bring back fond memories of OKC when I was a lad. Others times they make me think "Really. I'd wondered about that." Please keep it up.

Volunteers with No Boundaries International; Project Hope this weekend bringing compassion and prayer to the lost ladies on South Robinson Ave.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkMB846Lr8Y

The groups 2nd monthly meeting was a success. Even more people in attendance than the first meeting. The out of state speaker was really great and people in attendance received information on areas where they can volunteer and/or donate.

These initial few months will be spent training volunteers and building more alliances (already partnered and supported by the Salvation Army). Once their presence is firmly established on the streets and relationships and trust are built, they will begin the second phase of their project. I think we will see some very good things from this organization.