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metro
02-10-2011, 12:54 PM
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|owner= Salvation Army
|cost= $10 million
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Information & Latest News
6/16/13: Ground Breaking (http://newsok.com/salvation-army-breaks-ground-at-new-center-of-hope-location-in-oklahoma-city/article/3842613)
6/10/11: Chesapeake donates $5 million (http://salvationarmyokc.wordpress.com/2011/05/10/central-ok-salvation-army-unveils-center-of-hope-plans-chesapeake-energy-gives-5m-to-project/)
5/3/10: Property bought for $2.125 million
Links
Construction Cam (http://oxblue.com/open/smithandpickel/salvationarmy)
County Assessor Record (http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/Searches/AN-R.asp?ACCOUNTNO=R133521820)
Gallery

Spartan
02-10-2011, 12:59 PM
I was looking through commercial sales transactions and noticed the former flea market on 10th and Penn was sold to the Salvation Army of OK for $2.125million.

This is interesting considering Chesapeake recently bought their HQ on the SW corner of NW Expressway and Penn for about $2 million. I wonder what their plans are and if this will be their new HQ site?


That is a great location/facility for them. Probably a good move. I'm sure they'll fix it up a lot, too. It will be good for the Miller/Crestwood area.

metro
02-10-2011, 01:03 PM
Well, they have a retail store across the street. Hopefully they bulldoze the place and build new. That area could use it. I doubt it though, bet they remodel for offices and use most of it for warehousing/distribution.

jdcf
02-10-2011, 01:31 PM
Metro, thanks for the lease/sales postings.

I too think this could be a boost to the surrounding areas. I used to hate it when my mother would drag us to AMC all of the way from Edmond.

Spartan
02-10-2011, 01:35 PM
Anything there could be a huge improvement, all in all.

Chicken In The Rough
02-10-2011, 03:45 PM
The 10-Penn area is poised for a major revitalization.

rcjunkie
02-10-2011, 04:42 PM
From what I've heard, the plan is to bulldoze most of the buildings, leaving some of the back secton (warehouse), then build new main office.

Pete
02-10-2011, 04:43 PM
I believe the city is trying to buy the Salvation Army location in the Central Park area, just north of the old postal facility.

They may be looking to consolidate this into the 10th & Penn site.

rcjunkie
02-10-2011, 04:46 PM
I believe the city is trying to buy the Salvation Army location in the Central Park area, just north of the old postal facility.

They may be looking to consolidate this into the 10th & Penn site.

Would be a good move, both for the Salvation Army and the NW 10th & Penn area.

Reno and Walker
02-10-2011, 08:02 PM
This would have been a great location for a Wal-mart..

Spartan
02-11-2011, 02:18 AM
Where in Central Park is the Salvation Army? I know they just built a facility for a different non-profit at Memorial Park, but I can't place the Salvation Army around there. If anything, also sounds like an improvement for that area, as well.

Larry OKC
02-11-2011, 02:42 AM
Don't know the exact street but think it is at the base of the off ramp when going to the Ford (eastbound)?

on edit, google shows it at 5th & Harvey (the headquarters-501 South Harvey Avenue and the family shelter- 311 SW 5th)

rcjunkie
02-11-2011, 03:12 AM
Where in Central Park is the Salvation Army? I know they just built a facility for a different non-profit at Memorial Park, but I can't place the Salvation Army around there. If anything, also sounds like an improvement for that area, as well.

Right across (North), from the Post Office, it's been there for at least 40 years that I know of.

UnFrSaKn
02-11-2011, 04:06 AM
StreetView (http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=35.459593,-97.517341&spn=0.003102,0.005279&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=35.460049,-97.518029&panoid=B632gOyiImq2OJ7JgNeLVw&cbp=12,344.87,,0,9.85)

It's where I usually start my construction video route.

Spartan
02-11-2011, 05:56 AM
Oooooooh. I thought you all meant Central Park as in the neighborhood around 30th and Shartel (the big area between Paseo and Crown Heights). LOL. You all mean Core2Shore/Unnamed Park. My misunderstanding..

okclee
02-11-2011, 09:24 AM
Oooooooh. I thought you all meant Central Park as in the neighborhood around 30th and Shartel (the big area between Paseo and Crown Heights). LOL. You all mean Core2Shore/Unnamed Park. My misunderstanding..

aka....Festivus Park!

OKCisOK4me
02-11-2011, 12:01 PM
Would be a good move, both for the Salvation Army and the NW 10th & Penn area.

Anything to get the bums further away from downtown!

metro
02-11-2011, 12:03 PM
Anything to get the bums further away from downtown!


Well Westtown will be near here so this location also makes sense.

okclee
02-11-2011, 12:04 PM
I would rather see this moved over to Lincoln Blvd.

metro
02-11-2011, 12:08 PM
If it's nice.... We need Lincoln Blvd to be nice, and it should be, it could be a world class street/ district with some investment. Only OKC would let it get as bad as it got.

LordGerald
02-11-2011, 03:55 PM
Anything to get the bums further away from downtown!

You put it rather bluntly, but yes, I agree that that is one of the motivations. I suspect that City Rescue Mission could be next...

okclee
02-11-2011, 04:52 PM
Anything to get the bums further away from downtown!


I would rather see this moved over to Lincoln Blvd.


If it's nice.... We need Lincoln Blvd to be nice, and it should be, it could be a world class street/ district with some investment. Only OKC would let it get as bad as it got.

I apologize, I thought we were talking politics.

metro
02-11-2011, 09:37 PM
You put it rather bluntly, but yes, I agree that that is one of the motivations. I suspect that City Rescue Mission could be next...

Most likely, considering the homeless agencies are moving to West Town.

Meaculpa
02-11-2011, 09:39 PM
Anything to get the bums further away from downtown!

Ouch! I like the term brethren, better.

These are people and they have dignity.

Larry OKC
02-11-2011, 10:57 PM
There are bums, low-lifes and people that behave little better than animals in every socio-economic group, just as there are those that retain thier class & dignity (again, no matter what their economic or abode status).

Reminds me of an old Roseanne episode (think they had just won the lottery) and the line was "we are their worst nightmare, white-trash with money" (a line she repeated in real life when she was married to Tom Arnold).

Spartan
02-12-2011, 02:31 AM
Ouch! I like the term brethren, better.

These are people and they have dignity.

Meaculpa...I still think it can only lead to problems for them and for regular people downtown if a wealthy district develops around the bums. Moving them out to the Fairgrounds (along Virginia and along General Pershing, that general area) helps everyone involved I think.

Reno and Walker
02-12-2011, 09:47 PM
heck thats where Detox is moving to in on linwood and Virginia.. I just talked to the guys at the antique store about it.. I say move the mission out by the airport...

EBAH
02-13-2011, 01:12 PM
heck thats where Detox is moving to in on linwood and Virginia.. I just talked to the guys at the antique store about it.. I say move the mission out by the airport...

Yeah, I understand the move of both. But, in some ways it is kind of a bummer. I think the Linwood / 10 Penn area could be a really great inner city neighborhood again. But the neighborhood has been on a downward slide for years and I think that the locaion of West town and the Detox center will just firmly cement it as a "forgotten" corner of town. I really don't know why they didn't move all the homeless services over to the Eastern/Reno area, there's lots of land and almost NO residential of any kind.

Spartan
02-13-2011, 01:54 PM
You do kind of want homeless services in an area with people who are homeless.

Reno and Walker
02-18-2011, 09:38 PM
I am rehabbing a house on 10th about half a block east of penn I feel like I am screwd on this investment since homeless housing is going in on 7th and virginia, Detox on linwood and virginia, salvation army on 10th and penn. Man whats next. I guess this area is doomed. Please make me feel better anyone.

metro
02-18-2011, 10:42 PM
Good thing your trying to be a flipper in C2S but you'll probably get screwed on those too. I have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale while your speculating.

blangtang
02-18-2011, 10:49 PM
I heard 10th and Penn area will be near a streetcar stop

Reno and Walker
02-18-2011, 10:49 PM
Thanks for the input, you really have your pulse on the city. Try giving some usful info next time and cut the stupid talk.

Reno and Walker
02-18-2011, 10:50 PM
Blangtang thats what I need to hear. thank you sooo much.

rcjunkie
02-18-2011, 10:52 PM
I am rehabbing a house on 10th about half a block east of penn I feel like I am screwd on this investment since homeless housing is going in on 7th and virginia, Detox on linwood and virginia, salvation army on 10th and penn. Man whats next. I guess this area is doomed. Please make me feel better anyone.

Did you just recently purchase this property? the detox center moving to Linwood & Virginia was announced over a year ago and there's already a Salvation Amy @ NW 6th and Penn.

Reno and Walker
02-18-2011, 11:03 PM
No I have had it for 2 years and just now got around to the rehab. It sits on south part of the street cannot miss it, best looking house on 10th which is not saying much.. I will keep it and rent it and pray something good happens over there in next 5 years or I could always turn it into a mission.

krisb
02-19-2011, 12:15 AM
That is a great location/facility for them. Probably a good move. I'm sure they'll fix it up a lot, too. It will be good for the Miller/Crestwood area.

And perhaps the other neighborhoods around there that aren't as prestigious as Miller/Crestwood.

Reno and Walker
02-21-2011, 09:22 PM
Drove by Linwood and virginia and they are getting the new Detox ready by June..I am sure the Antique store is feeling horrible since they tried to move away from them in Bricktown..

Pete
11-16-2011, 10:33 AM
Demolition permit issued today for this old AMC site now owned by the Salvation Army.

MDot
11-16-2011, 10:39 AM
I remember when I was little my mom use to work here and she would let me go into her station and let me and my sister get whatever candy we liked and she would pay for it; I always got candy corn.

My dad still lives around the corner so I still go by here pretty often, about once a week normally, sometimes more. I can honestly say I won't miss it once it's gone; I still have the memories of it and that's a whole lot better than the dump it's turned into.

metro
11-16-2011, 11:40 AM
Thank goodness. I drove by it a few days ago and man it is in SERIOUS disrepair, of course it has been for some time though. That whole area is a HUGE eyesore but has lots of potential.

MikeOKC
11-16-2011, 01:43 PM
Goodbye to AMC and many childhood memories. It was the first place that I remember that required a membership card which you showed at a counter entering the store. Great toy section, a maze of a store that made exploring fun as a kid. Oh, how I would love to go back to 1965 - just for a few hours. Such a different time. But seriously, great memories to hear Mom ask, "Want to go to AMC with me?"

And while we know it must go, it's actually hard for many of us that grew up with AMC to say goodbye and see it turn to rubble.

Thunder
11-16-2011, 07:47 PM
I used to go there many times. I know a vendor there that is now at Old Paris. Does anyone know why and whose fault for the demise of this once popular glorious flea market? I am a bit sad that its Salvation Army moving in, but I hope they will at least set up a huge shopping store rather than wasting it on donations center and distribution truck stop.

How long will the demo take and the construction?

Btw, if any past vendors are reading this, check out the Golden Goose Flea Market! Always growing and plenty of building spaces to expand.

MikeOKC
11-16-2011, 08:17 PM
I used to go there many times. I know a vendor there that is now at Old Paris. Does anyone know why and whose fault for the demise of this once popular glorious flea market? I am a bit sad that its Salvation Army moving in, but I hope they will at least set up a huge shopping store rather than wasting it on donations center and distribution truck stop.

How long will the demo take and the construction?

Btw, if any past vendors are reading this, check out the Golden Goose Flea Market! Always growing and plenty of building spaces to expand.

Just to clarify, the nostalgia for AMC that I was referring to was AMC the department store - not the flea market. Though I did go in there a time or two when it was a flea market. I found a precious first edition of 'The Call of the Wild' there for $5 at a bookseller booth that was real close to the entrance. I knew it had to be worth more than five bucks. I've since had it appraised for $1,800.00. I guess the guy just didn't know what he had.

rondvu
11-18-2011, 01:01 PM
I drove my the old AMC building today and it looks like the demolition has begun. The main entrance as well as the lawn and garden North entrance has the windows out and piles of debris in the parking lot.

MikeOKC
11-18-2011, 02:03 PM
I drove my the old AMC building today and it looks like the demolition has begun. The main entrance as well as the lawn and garden North entrance has the windows out and piles of debris in the parking lot.

Do you remember when the lawn and garden fenced in area had bicycles around the fencing for a short time every spring? Ribbons hanging off, balloons tied to them. A kid magnet driving by in 1965.

Midtowner
11-18-2011, 02:11 PM
"Glorious" and "flea market" in the same sentence.

That'd be a first.

Tritone
11-18-2011, 09:18 PM
How do you fill the shopping store without a donation center?


I used to go there many times. I know a vendor there that is now at Old Paris. Does anyone know why and whose fault for the demise of this once popular glorious flea market? I am a bit sad that its Salvation Army moving in, but I hope they will at least set up a huge shopping store rather than wasting it on donations center and distribution truck stop.

How long will the demo take and the construction?

Btw, if any past vendors are reading this, check out the Golden Goose Flea Market! Always growing and plenty of building spaces to expand.

JayhawkTransplant
11-19-2011, 10:09 AM
How do you fill the shopping store without a donation center?

I'm not sure if Salvation Army works this way, too, but many Goodwill stores do not allow you to drop stuff off. They keep their drop-off locations and stores separate so they can distribute items according to inventory in stores.

Thunder
11-19-2011, 10:24 AM
I'm not sure if Salvation Army works this way, too, but many Goodwill stores do not allow you to drop stuff off. They keep their drop-off locations and stores separate so they can distribute items according to inventory in stores.

Nope. The one south of I-40 has both in one massive building where all the trucks are and a big store, too. The one in MWC accept donations at their store.

Pete
11-19-2011, 10:31 AM
Just found this photo of the sign from AMC... I remember it being huge and distinctive:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/amcsign.jpg

kevinpate
11-19-2011, 10:56 AM
Nope. The one south of I-40 has both in one massive building where all the trucks are and a big store, too. The one in MWC accept donations at their store.

Norman now operates a larger than before GW store, has for a spell actually. Donations are accepted at separate donation sites around the community.

Thunder
11-19-2011, 11:21 AM
Pete, ur very resourceful.

BBatesokc
11-23-2011, 10:18 AM
Drove by this morning. About have the building is now down and loaded into trucks.

metro
11-23-2011, 11:36 AM
Pics?

Bryanosaurus
12-04-2011, 03:12 PM
Went by today and the entire building looks to be torn down. Just the foundation and some piles of rubble left.

Also I noticed the old rusty water tower located just south of this location appears to have been wrapped in a blue cover with the seal of Oklahoma City on it. Hopefully they are also going to paint it.

metro
12-13-2011, 10:18 AM
Took these on Friday:

http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae288/snewlon/e0020cad.jpg

http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae288/snewlon/eb265308.jpg

Cocaine
12-13-2011, 03:35 PM
bye bye amc

rcjunkie
12-13-2011, 04:12 PM
Took these on Friday:

http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae288/snewlon/e0020cad.jpg

http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae288/snewlon/eb265308.jpg

The building was way past it's prime, however, still sad to see it go. My late Grandmother worked at AMC, in the Jewelry Department for 26 years.

MikeOKC
12-13-2011, 04:43 PM
The building was way past it's prime, however, still sad to see it go. My late Grandmother worked at AMC, in the Jewelry Department for 26 years.

I agree. I have a ridiculous sadness about this. Just soooo many memories from the sixties.